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Has Kinect Sold You?

Let me just state that I will never buy Kinect. Playstation Move, mabey, but not Kinect. It doesn't seem right. The games they have aren't very good and you look like an idiot using it. They have the right idea. But the technology isn't developed enough for me to spend $150.00 on it.

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frankymv5014d ago

I think that the majority of gamers on N4G will not be buying kinect.

Count5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

Mostly because they're Ps3 fanboys.

mrv3215014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

Mostly because they are smart enough to realise $150 for Kinectimals and dancing games doesn't seem like a good investment but what would the launch line-up planned games, features, spec list and previews tell us about Natals game possibilities.

Also no buttons.

I am considering buying move which is more that I can say for Natal.

I said 'smart ENOUGH' doesn't mean they can be a doctor it just means they have common sense.

Omega45014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

Wow people disagreeing with the facts, sad.

The worst part is they all say they will buy Move when you know for a fact they won't.

hiredhelp5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

hmmm

hiredhelp5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

DO YOU SPEAK ON BEHALF OF EVERY 360 OWNER.or just to critasise playstation owners.

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tynam5014d ago

It's amazing how much I hate you after just 5 words

ATLGAMER5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

So you are a fanboy if u think Kinect is crappy...then a lot of xbox users are ps3 fanboys also right ...
just give it up already as of now kinect is a big failure you are only defending it because u are the fanboy

asyouburn5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

or petting fake animals. and i dont need a game to exercise, i work out two nights a week in a gym. so sony has nothing to do with me not wanting kinect.
EDIT: and just thought i'd throw this in as well, i wont be buying move either.

tinybigman5014d ago

i will not buy kinect because i don't waste my money on shovelware, and items that have no worth for me. i don't buy shovelware for the wii; so why the hell should i spend $150 for a camera when the games for it are horrible.

move i'll buy because it has been shown to work with core games, and that's what i want from my games.

agree/disagree all you want but that's how honestly i feel about both new motion control schemes.

oohWii5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

Why do PS3 Fanboys, that have no desire to buy Kinect feel compelled to come into a 360 thread (about Kinect) and give their opinions?

Is it to show support for the other PS3 FANBOYS that they know are in the thread trolling also?

Do they really think 360 Owners give a damn what they think?

Are they a bunch of bithcy girly men?

Do they really think that their opinions mean a rat ass to anyone but their mothers?

Really, what compells someone to comment on something that they claim to have no interest in, let alone write an article about it?

Please, serious inquiries only.

Thank you,
N4G fanboy research department (FRD)

@tinybigman - haha, spoken like a true "BANNED" disgruntled converted PS3 fanboy. XBL gamertag says it all.

tinybigman5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

you think i give 2 craps what you think? if i was a fanboy i wouldn't own all 3 systems numbnuts. and just because my system is banned doesn't mean shit. i won't spend my hard earned cash on something that has shown to be worthless to me.

you looking up my gamertag shows me how worthless you are as a person. what i do with the item i spent my money on is none of your concern.

oh and your the bitchy little girl for coming on here and complaining about other people.

karl5014d ago

because it sucks.... hope that enlights anyone who was considering on buying it..

secksi-killer5014d ago

i wont be buying this, just like i wont be buying "the move". i have a wii which i dont use, so i have no intention of buying sony and microsofts desperate attempts to get some of the wiis market.

kinetic and move = desperate me too copying.

now disagree away.

oohWii5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

Hit a nerve did I?

Don't be upset I understand, you got your 360 banned because you modded it. I explains why you think 150 for Kinect is too expensive, you are use to stealing what you use on your consoles. MS caught you, banned your 360 and now you're pissed as if you weren't the cause of your own 360 getting banned.

Wow, I am either pretty good at this, or you are simply that easy to read. I think it's the ladder of the two.

My looking up your gamertag, is simply investigative commenting, something you should probably do before opening your mouth so much on N4G. It's not pathetic of me, you put the gamertag out there for people to see right? Perhaps you should remove it if you don't want people to know that you rent games, and make copies of them; or that you're a HUGE GAMING CHEATER! (I would have to go with the former on this one.)

I'm just saying.

tinybigman5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

no jackass I modded my system because I'm a new single homeowner. So on top of paying for mortgage, I pay for cable, cel phone, maintenance, electric, and 3 credit cards. So I made the choice to mod it to save money I don't have to buy all the games I want to play.

I will not apologize to anyone for what I do with my personal items so u can go blow it out your ass. And even if I didn't mod my system I still wouldn't buy kinect because I don't buy shovelware games, and that's all that kinect has. So again kiss my you know what you self righteous ass.

You really have no life to focus or care about what my comment says; or what I do with my personal stuff.

Go ahead and complain to the mods I don't care.

Oh I'm not changing my comment for no one, and if I really hated the 360 I would have never bought the system dipsh*t.

Biggest5013d ago

I'm late to this party and don't really care about the Kinect in general. But I must respond to this:

A fair question
Why do PS3 Fanboys, that have no desire to buy Kinect feel compelled to come into a 360 thread (about Kinect) and give their opinions?

This is a thread that poses a question that is open to all gamers. It applies even moreso to PS3 fanboys. Microsoft fanboys wanted Kinect before they knew about it. Now that we know what it is and what it does, does it do enough to make people that didn't want it before want it now? The obvious answer is no.

livinwitbias5013d ago (Edited 5013d ago )

Anger management much! I guess oohwii did hit a nerve. I really don't know how or why you think being a single parent gives you a license to steal software simply because you can't afford it.

The sad thing is you're using it as justification as if that makes it okay. You're right about one thing, no one can tell you what to do with your money and what to buy with it. But here some friendly advice, if you're so broke that you need to pirate games because you are a single parent with bills and a house full of kids, perhaps you shouldn't have bought so much gaming gear.

PRIORITIES MAN!

@Biggest,

"Now that we know what it is and what it does, does it do enough to make people that didn't want it before want it now? The obvious answer is no"

The only thing obvious is your arrogance and your misguided ability to assume what other people would want.

I hereby click the disagree button under your comment.

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playstation_clan5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

no, reason. how about the fact that i prefer buttons for gaming

EDIT@below- just because i have playstation_clan as a username says i prefer ps3, yes but it doesnt take rocket science to know kinect will fail with hardcore gamers
i just love core gaming which kinect isnt, bottom line.

Count5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

Says the oh so ''playstation_clan' ;'. With added Ps3 avatar.

What is a hardcore gamer?

zootang5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

@anomen

Hardcore gamers are gamers that play full games like Killzone 3 and Resi 5 and Sorcery, then try to master the game. I don't think anyone could call Kinectimals or fitness game hardcore.

Just my opinion, not fact :)

PirateThom5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

Anyone defending Kinect, as a legitimate gaming controller along with the cost of it, is an idiot. There. Plain and simple.

No "hidden agenda", no "misdirection". No, you're an idiot.

hamoor5014d ago

Hey look my friend...I think a lot of things in life is overpriced and not worth it like the Mac laptops and so..but am not gonna till everybody DON'T BUY IT OR YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!
everybody have an opinion and if they got the money the can spend it they way the want to

PirateThom5014d ago

It's a $150 web cam with no games. It's not even a case of having an opinion, those are the facts of it and I'm not against people spending their money how they want, generally, Kinect is just one step too far.

Bigpappy5014d ago

I must be a double Ediot. I bought 2.

Who would have tunk?

Next time I want to spend my cash, I be sure and check with you first, cause I don't want to be an idiot.

zootang5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

@bigpappy

What was the reason for buying 2? I'm interested.

PS360PCROCKS5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

Hamoor I have a Macbook Pro and I'm not an idiot. Was it overpriced? Hell yes it was! Was it worth it? Hell yes it was. It allows me to do schoolwork on the programs I need since my college is all mac computers. The price is just a number, only you can justify what it's worth to you. Some people think 360/PS3 are overpriced, cars, Apple anything, louis vuitton etc...The point is money is just an object if it makes you happy it's worth it. My MBP makes me very happy, so does my PS3, Xbox 360, Motorola Droid, 50" Pioneer Elite. Most people think I'm crazy for having nearly $10,000 worth of just electronics. I think people are crazy for buying $70,000 cars, $25,000 worth of tools.

Oh and Pirate thom was saying you're an idiot if you pay $150 for a webcam that isn't even a legitimate controller. I agree with him.

Bigpappy5014d ago

Then I decided to get one for my kids (teens) as they are more excited about it than I am. I like my WRPG's and other Hardcore games. So when I am playing those, I don't want them voting me off so they can do their dance games and their mom can work out. So there you go.

ActionBastard5014d ago

No need to get defensive. It is confusing to read someone whose reasoning for buying Kinect is "I like WRPG's and other Hardcore games", when neither has even been hinted.

secksi-killer5014d ago

but i bet you would "valiantly" defend "the move"!

im sorry thom, but to me you are just another sony turd.

Bzone245014d ago

No hidden agenda or misdirection from the king basher of the anything Xbox. lol That was a good one thomas.

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Blaze9295014d ago

seeing as I already pre-ordered one at Toys R US for that $89.99 deal - I guess it has.

Inside_out5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

Well I'm interested in Move for Socom and Kinect for adventures as well as the specific ubisoft exercise game and MTV dance game. If you have small children, I can see Kinect being the number one add on because of Kinectanimals. I also have a Wii but rarely use it.

In terms of price, Kinect wins, 1 kinect Vs 2 move controllers and the camera. In terms of bundles, Kinect, as of now wins with the $299 Vs $399 PS3 bundle. The Wii costs even less now, $210 ( $285 with second controller ), with 2 games.

M$ is set to have a monster holiday season. Sony Move will sell well to those who have a PS3 already, but I think they will have a hard time convincing people to pay $399 for the PS3 Move bundle...PLUS add a second controller and a game and your in the $550 range...ouch. Pushing 3D TV's at the same time could also really hurt the Move sales. 3D, right now no matter how great it looks ( Panasonic 3D is INCREDIBLE ), is very expensive. The glasses alone are $150 ea.

Biggest5013d ago

Panasonic, dude? Really?

Kulupoo5014d ago

Not going to buy Kinect, untill they show show hardcore games

asyouburn5014d ago

theres a plethora of "hardcore" games on 360 right now. i dont think kinect will ever give it to you

RealityCheck5014d ago

I agree, for me to consider it they would need to show some core games or optional integration into the main 360 games.

otherZinc5014d ago

My family is sold on Kinect. Not me, as I cant stand any motion control device.

If I ranked them MOVE would be the worst, Wii is the leader because they started it & Kinect in 2nd place. SONY should just stop before they take an enormous loss.

asyouburn5014d ago

"If I ranked them MOVE would be the worst, Wii is the leader because they started it"

So a model T ford is "better" than a ferrari because it came first?

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Dsnyder5014d ago (Edited 5014d ago )

Im already doubtful on this motion control crap for any console but this is just extortion. People seem to have forgotten that games are about relaxing and sitting your ass on a couch, not coming home and flailing your arms at the screen. I dont want to excercise when I play a game and I dont want to pay half a console to do it either.

hamoor5014d ago

Exactly!!
All these motion crap is gonna be boring after a month or so...at least in my opinion

Agent-865014d ago

1) You look ridiculous playing
2) You can only play standing up
3) Requires 6 feet of space between player and device (which actually turns into 9 feet since you need room to move around; 6 feet is the line you can't cross)
4) Only two people can play at a time (and, as far as I know, no Kinect game can be played online)
5) Doesn't recognize wrist or other fine movement
6) High entry price of $150
7) Games are $50 each. Really, $50 to fake pet a fake tiger!
8) No games appealing to hardcore gamers
9) Uses 15% of the 360's processing power

cossie1235014d ago

ok your comment is an utter fail. do ya research before you post stupid comments.

1) You look ridiculous playing - maybe so but who gives a shit its fun
2) You can only play standing up - incorrect ,games can be played sitting if they are made that way. and why the hell would you sit down on games like dance central. lol
3) Requires 6 feet of space between player and device - true but if ya got the room buy it, if ya aint then dont
4) Only two people can play at a time (and, as far as I know, no Kinect game can be played online) - true again but could you see 4 people standing side by side in a room. and yes kinect games will work on live.
5) Doesn't recognize wrist or other fine movement - my not be true as its been mentioned that the bowling game can detect the spin from ya wrist
6) High entry price of $150 - not bad considering you get a game with it and if you go to www.thehut.com for £134 you van get it with 2 games
7) Games are $50 each. Really, $50 to fake pet a fake tiger! - business mate business
8) No games appealing to hardcore gamers - not yet but will be soon, this is just the start wait till it matures
9) Uses 15% of the 360's processing power - i do 100% agree on this but we will see soon if it affects the gameplay

MorganX5014d ago

Another Gamestop 2x trade-in and I'm all over the new 360S!

hamoor5014d ago

Screw kinect and MOVE all you need is this little baby to REALLY enjoy the hardcore games
http://farm2.static.flickr....

Bloodyghost5014d ago

I do not get why everyone is getting all buzzed up for both. I mean families seriously want 3Mote and a Eye Toy Plus?! I mean come on..

Kinectimals is the most retard idea for a game ever following up with Shoot Out!

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Knightofelemia815d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog815d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916815d ago (Edited 815d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69815d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming815d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79815d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember814d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog815d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop815d ago (Edited 815d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog815d ago (Edited 815d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop815d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic814d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop814d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic813d ago (Edited 813d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal815d ago (Edited 815d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic814d ago (Edited 814d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10815d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar815d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10815d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell815d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10815d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72815d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming815d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog815d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming815d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming815d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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