Bungie on Halo Reach: Expect moments well beyond what anyone has done before on a console

Halo Reach is shaping up to be Bungie’s biggest game ever. The title is literally packed to the brim with features. Halo 3 was a fantastic game, but floundered a bit on the visual side; Bungie knows this and is really looking to end the series with a bang, and most of it is thanks to all of the engineering that has gone into their new engine.

[Bocanegra]

I don't know about all that but this is one my most anticipated games right now.

[Double Toasted]

I'm looking for quotes folks. When has Bungie ever lied?

[telekineticmantis]

They said the footage they show at E3 would be mind blowing...

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

aybe Double should've said, provide a link to a quote(s)...

[EVILDEAD360]

As a Halo fan..the actual Reach update was an amazing read..

The effort Bungie has put into Reach is incredible..the 'no stone unturned' approach they have towards Reach is proving that this will easily be the best Halo game of all time.

This title is about to dominate millions of lives for a very long time...

Evil

[SixZeroFour]

loved reading this part in the beginning

"The project is steadily winding down but that doesn’t mean we’re winding down on things to talk about. In fact, it’s quite the opposite."

from all they have said and explained on fridays update...theres apparently still much more to talk about cant wait

[EVILDEAD360]

It sounds like next Thursay they have alot to reveal..Reach sounds bigger than anybody ever imagined

[Imperator]

Maybe never seen on the 360 but on all consoles? I seriously doubt it. Reach will no doubt be amazing, and probably the best 360 game this year, but PS3 exclusives have set the bar so high that only other PS3 exclusives have been able to outdo each other.

[Halochampian]

in what sense? Graphics? Because im pretty sure that Bungie isnt talking about Graphics.

Maybe they are just talking about pure value in a game with customization through the roof!

Or maybe he is talking about Online and how huge it will be with Daily and weekly challenges.

Halo Reach is going to be huge. And after reading each update, I get more and more excited for this game. Even more excited than I was for Halo 2.

[SonyPS360]

Polygon counts aren't the sole thing that make a game great. When it comes to gameplay this has the potential to crap all over every other console shooter.

[nveenio]

I wish I could understand why people like Halo.

[Independent_Charles]

Millions of people like Halo because its a top class shooter which unlike any other console shooter its perfectly balanced online and has features that no other fps on consoles has. e.g --> a map editor, game mode editor( TOWER POWER FTW! ), A.I characteristics editor, 4-player campaign co-op through every halo game(halo ward 2player). yes halo 3 doesnt have the graphics of other shooter but it has definantly locked down the gameplay. far better tahn KZ2 and cod series. IMO

[SonyPS360]

Apparently 9 people don't agree with you anticipating this title.

Makes total sense right?

[EvilBlackCat]

This game have not been released yet and this game already suck?

[J-Smith]

*Bungie’s biggest game ever* will be their next 1 on ps3&xbox360 LoL

[Focker-420]

Such as??

[nveenio]

@above

When I walk into a local gamestop/walmart/etc, etc, there's nothing on Halo:Reach to be found. When I ask why there's no promo stuff for Reach, they don't have an answer (which probably just means they're stupid). I don't see Halo anywhere. Hype control? Probably.

Reach will not have anything spectacular. The people that ARE hyped about it are only hyped because it's Halo. How do I know this? Because absolutely NOTHING amazing has been shown. EVERYTHING they've shown has been "same old, same old".

Seriously. If you're hyping Reach, then you should really find something else to look forward to. They're going to just let you down like they have with every other Halo game this generation. Of course the gameplay will be there...they've had gameplay since Halo 1. But innovation? Halo 1 was the last time they did that in any capacity.

[00]

September seems to long a wait.

[benny o klaatt]

only eight weekends :)

[Focker-420]

November is even longer.

[Focker-420]

How in the f*ck do you disagree with FACT. Seriously?!

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

hat the f*ck is............................ ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... .....November?

[8thnightvolley]

true talk bro... sept seems really far

[Karum]

That is indeed a bold claim.

I like the look of Reach so I guess that claim will be justified or debunked when I get my hands on it.

[ImmortalLegend]

My local Gamestop has more than 200 pre-orders for it right now and I'm highly considering just ordering it off of Amazon.com...idk though.

[Counter Strike]

Bring it

[SephireX]

I think Halo Reach will be a good game. Bungie know how to do multiplayer. I just wish little 12 year old kids get separate servers. I hope it lives up to expectations and Bungie leave the Halo series with a bang.

[BloodyNapkin]

If 12 year olds got their own servers then you would have fat middle aged sucky players playing kinda like on PSN.

[Convas]

If you haven't seen some evidence of this by now, it's because you don't want to see it, or you are just not paying attention.

Now as to whether these moments really haven't been seen of consoles, I don't know, but I can trust them to put up their best for us in their Last Halo Game.

September 14, 2010. DAY ONE.

[ranmafandude]

is gonna be a good game that's all i need to know.

[joypads]

it has to be one of your most anticipated games,what else is there to wait for on the inferior box ? lol

[otherZinc]

Fable 3.

Now, what are you waiting for on the PS3 in 2010?

[FFXI101]

Let's see....I'm waiting for Sengoku Basara: Samurai Heroes, The Sly Collection, The Fight: Lights Out(Move title), Kung Fu Rider(Move Title), The Last Guardian, DC Universe Online Hero Edition, Gran Turismo 5 Collector's Edition, LittleBigPlanet 2 and Socom 4.

[BloodyNapkin]

GT5 and LBP2 is the only ones for me.

[ZootALarz]

@FFXI101

>Sengoku Basara: Samurai Heroes

wat

>Move titles

I chuckled.

>Gran Turismo 5

I don't know, the Gran Turismo series has always been terribly boring to me. I didn't have the heart to slug through GT4 because I really didn't have the heart to drive my neighbor's 4 year old Mitsubishi Lancer for umpteen races until I could drive the fun cars.

I'll give you Sly, LBP (good platformer -- we need more good platformers in this day and age), and Socom though.

[FFXI101]

If you don't know what Sengoku Basara: Samurai Heroes is just google it, only take you a min. As for the motion game, I don't know why you chuckled.(Did you chuck at Kinect and Wii mote too?)

If you didn't watch the E3 conference, perhaps you should. There are decent titles for Move, "Sorcerer" is one of them and if you like platformer I think you'll like the "Heros on the Move" as well.

Last but not least, you mention that Gran Turismo series has always been terribly boring to you. Now that's your personal opinion, I could say the same about Forza or Halo, but I didn't.

Just so you know, because the way otherZinc saying it sounds like there is nothing to looking forward to on PS3, so I was simply to point out that there are games(not included muti-platform) on PS3.

[Raider69]

Bungie is not going anywhere!They are just packing and moving to Kotick side!Thats what i call a Big BANG!

[dizzleK]

between the space combat and the massive battles they're promising, i don't doubt them.

wake me when another fps gets something as epic in scale as the scarab battles in halo 3, let alone reach.

[PSjesus]

This is the surprise!!!

[RockmanII7]

Just put down $50 on Reach preorder yesterday, its gonna be epic :)

[joypads]

@otherzinc

lol you really shouldn't have asked that stupid question,this year has been one of the best thus far we have had god of war 3,heavy rain & we are getting,gran turismo,Move,the agent,little big planet2 + many more & next year infamous 2,motorstorm 3,Killzone 3 + more Ps3 is all about playing AAA games all year long every year. ;)

dont cry please i know how hard having a generic shooter as your ultimate exclusive lol,but dont worry microsoft will confinse you its all that you will ever need with a big dose of their usual hype. :p

[SonyPS360]

It's funny that all it takes is one 360 title to trounce every single one of the ones you mentioned.

Halo: Reach > all. :)

[krisprolls]

Actually GT5 on PS3 >>> Reach on 360

GT sold more copies than the Halo series, by far.

[ZootALarz]

>implying Killzone 3 isn't going to be a generic shooter

OHOHOHO.

[playnation]

3rd party devs will never REACH the level where ps3 devs/ games are. they are waaay beyond.

[coolbeans]

It's funny you mention that when so many 3rd party PC games go waaaay beyond PS3 games it certain categories.

[theonlylolking]

The only thing PC has that is better than consoles is graphics and performance.

[playnation]

you name it! PC GAMES i play pc games too, not only you, and im talking aboput consoles not pc, thanks =)

[The real killer]

" Expect moments well beyond what anyone has done before on a console"

Has Gow 3/Killzone 2/Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain allready did?

I have to wait what they mean about moments, i hope this will be good.

[Chnswdchldrn]

all i hope is that it does not look as bad as it did in the beta phase.....good god what a hideous game

HEY LETS USE MOTION BLUR TO COVER UP OUR UGLY GAME

also, i hope there will be some sort of limited halo reach slim bundle for like 300 or 350. that would be so cash

[IcarusOne]

If it's good enough for KZ, it's certainly good enough Halo. Right?

I'm so tired of this focus on graphics. Fun comes first. Which is why I've been less than impressed with GOW3, KZ2, UC1&2. They look great but don't deliver anything new. Arkham Asylum on the other hand was amazing because of it's ability to blend stealth and action seamlessly into a pretty open world environment. And then there's RDR - GOTY.

Point is I don't expect Reach to set a record for onscreen polygons and the people who use that to measure a game's worth ARE NOT GAMERS.

[ZootALarz]

@IcarusOne

I fail to see why your comment gets disagrees. Well said, sir.

[IcarusOne]

Because a lot of people on n4g are just pretending to be gamers. In reality they're tech/graphics junkies constantly in search of their next fix.

They also think Final Fantasy The Movie (featuring the voice of Alec Baldwin) is one of the greatest films of all time.

[BeOneWithTheGun]

I have come to EXPECT good graphics from a next gen game. If I only cared about gameplay, I would play super mario brothers all day long.

Sure, some less than AAA titles are a blast without the graphics (Demon's Souls) but when Bungie is making the LAST HALO GAME EVER and have mega dollars and an updated engine, they better bring nice looking graphics to the table! Duh!

[John Kratos]

I'm hoping that this will bring me back to liking Halo. Loved one, liked 2, and 3 was meh... I did really like the beta the invasion mode was the best. Though I do agree it looks like they just took a bunch of motion blur and put it on Halo. Really doesn't matter to me though. Graphics are cool but if it doesn't have the gameplay then it's really not great.

[krisprolls]

I agree Halo series is going downhill. 3 was a subpar generic shooter.

KZ2 > Halo3

[coolbeans]

Although it is funny for the word generic to be thrown around alot with no backing. It's still funny to see how no other console fps has a "forge-like" option yet either.

[FragMnTagM]

Then why did Uncharted 2 borrow some ideas from it for their multiplayer and other games as well? They even acknowledged Bungie in the credits for crying out loud, yet it is generic?

What about Killzone? I cannot tell you anything about Killzone's story other than that the Helghast invaded Earth in the first one, and Earth invaded Helghan in the second one, and can name a few names from the game.

Halo has a very rich story and a huge fan following. Shoot, even my girlfriend gets into and likes the Halo story.

Generic my ass. I think we all know what the generic shooter is with flashy graphics.

[IKONACLYSM]

Halo reach will be epic.Not just in sales,but in scale,gameplay and the most important feature..FUN!!

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

We're possibly looking at the biggest and best FPS ever folks. I expect the jealousy from the other side to grow immensely upon release.

The 360 is tearing it up this year. :)

Eat your heart out sony. Smart idea to release killzone 3 waaaaay after Halo Reach because it would be murder for sony from all the dual owners.

[Seijoru]

I'm a PC/PS3 gamer and I couldn't give a shit about Reach. I think it is one of the most overhyped games of this gen and I never liked Halo. Halo is always overrated just for its name like many Apple products. It will be a solid game, have great sales, have a great multiplayer, but one thing it will not be is the greatest FPS like some people have been saying.

[FragMnTagM]

It is called an opinion. I have a PS3 and game on PC as well as 360. But I have never found a FPS title that I like as much as Halo. I love Half-Life 1, Half-Life 2, Crysis, Team Fortress 2, and several others on PC, but none of them close to Halo for me.

People are allowed to like things that you do not. You don't like Halo? Well that is ok. For every one person that doesn't like it, there are 100,000 that do.

I cannot stand Apple products, but I don't go on Apple message boards and tell Apple's fans how much I love customizing my PC.

[xg-ei8ht]

Depends if you like the fps that halo offers, ALot do, some do not.

Kinda like the mw2 vs bfbc2 argument.

I have no doubt it'll be a good game.

But killzone3 is a different game, slower type gameplay, cinematic etc.

Halo3 - reach are more like MW2 arcade, quick sessions etc and people lap that up.

In all truth SONY could easily make a shooter like the others and i'm not sure why they don't.

[Johnny_Bravo]

They have had 4 years to do so, if its so easy why havn't they? I will tell you, because they can't.

[BloodyNapkin]

People have been trying to make a so called "Halo Killer" for years now. And they fail each time. Halo will always shine above the rest.

[Seijoru]

Only way I see Halo shine is sales because all their games have never interested me. It will never shine critically in my eyes.

[palaeomerus]

Who cares? Your eyes mean nothing to me. Nobody gives a crap about "the Seijoru awards".

[N4PS3Fanboys]

@Seijoru

If you go into a game with your mind already set: "I will not enjoy this game", then you will not enjoy the game.

[lonix]

moments of homosexuality

[Spenok]

Hmm, toping U2 will be a feat. I dare them to try. It should be interesting to see what they come up with.

[xg-ei8ht]

Your talking about a halo killer in the sense of copying what they've done with it and putting it on the PS3.

Killzone2/3 are cinematic games

So are the uncharted's.

I like those types of games, i just sold BFBC2 got bored of it, I would rather BF2 on PS3 with some damage.

BF2 is an old pc game that runs very fast with 1 core pc and old gpu.
But it was a sucker for ram, not sure why really, because textures were poor.

[coolbeans]

that's certainly an interesting comment especially when considering what big moments God of War 3 had (most recent).

[palaeomerus]

I'm already bored of God of War 3. Sorry. Played it once and done. Enjoyed it somewhat less that Uncharted 2 or Bioshock.

[tompoulo]

Seriously can't wait for Halo Reach!! After the launch of the game i don't expect it to come out of my Xbox360 drive till the launch of Gears of War 3!
Halo games are pure fun with amazing replayability Halo 3 is a game i keep replaying nearly 3 years after it's launch and i am not even bored with it...
I expect the same to happen with Halo Reach!
I mean seriously, amazing campaign(singleplayer and co-op), Firefight(huge co-op matches) and of course the amazing multiplayer with so many playlists.. I expect this game to be the biggest game this generation at least for me who only owns Xbox360.

[awi5951]

Im not impressed by ps3 graphics untill it produces a highly detailed open world game. All the ps3 so called ultimate graphics every PS3 fanboys keep yelling about are all linear coridor shooters. That tech went out of style with doom 3.

Sorry its not hard to make a super detailed world when you only have to render the world 20 feet around the character and then put a fake ass sky box around it to make things look pretty.

Everything on ps3, killzone and uncharted uses trickery in their graphics engine. Untill i see a vast beautiful open world game with real geometry in the buildings,trees,and rocks in the enviroment with real lighting not fake simulated lighting. (Looking at you killzone 2)Not fake ass wall papers and ninja digital pictures spining in the background to fool your eye. Untill then color me not impressed.

[palaeomerus]

Most of the PS3 "graphical powerhouse" exclusives (the three that people actually talk about, because no one seems to much care about stuff like Little Big Planet or MAG. Resistance, Motorstorm, Warhawk, and Ratchet and Clank don't quite reach the same level of acclaim. Even inFamous isn't particularly "amazing" looking.) look better than other similar games because better artists, animators, and directors were hired and lots of time and effort was spent on polish. In other words it's the developers.

It's not because of some proprietary technology in the PS3. Although the PS3 DOES do edge antialiasing very well.

What you describe as trickery is designing the game to look the best it can given your skillset and your design. That's what game devs are supposed to do.

Hopefully Bungie does it as much as possible with Reach. And I plan to get Reach on day one, or pretty close, 'cause I LOVE me some Halo.

[hoops]

Most console games do not even use all realtime lighting effects or all soft shadow effects. They almost always use lower floating point precsison for HDR lighting. Its the limitations of consoles. But what is impressive is how game dev can squeeze power out of these consoles and make games look fantstic with thses limitations

[xg-ei8ht]

All lighting is simulated, unless you really think some games are real?

Openworld games are actually not that hard to do, it's just lod, all games use this, even crysis. But it's making an openworld game interesting. Crysis was ok, GTA4 bored me shitless, oblivion was just rinse and repeat.

I prefer games that have a good story and good gameplay and when the sp is over, it's over.

Little Big Planet or MAG. Resistance, Motorstorm, Warhawk, and Ratchet and Clank, they are all good games.

Motorstorm pr is alot better then the first game.
Warhawk needs fps mode.
Ratchet is more a childs game imo.

[awi5951]

Thats not what i meant and you know it ya troll. Anyone in pc games knows what im talking about the lighting shouldnt be canned. It doesnt reflect off the world like it would in real life like crysis does it.