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Report: Kinect requires that you dress appropriately

Following on from reports suggesting that you'll need to stand up in order to use Kinect, and the revelation that significant space will be required for the camera to see you, it now appears that you - or your mum, at least - is going to have to dress a certain way if they want to 'jump in' with the motion-sensing device.

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Blacktric5024d ago

They are going to give away free tuxedos along with every Xbox 360 purchase soon.

Nihilism5024d ago

Nah dude, M.S isn't up with the times, it'll be a cheap denim 'suit'

evrfighter5024d ago

u mean I can't dance nekkid?

:(

Cloudberry5024d ago

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I remember some saying...

"Kinect may malfunction if it's recognize the third leg."

Nihilism5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

You can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends behind. But if your friends don't dance and if they don't dance then they're no friends of mine...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Chaostar5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

that dance wasn't all that safe you know :P

Triella5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

This is an image of how Kinect sees you, a vague point cloud (and just below how the still image is transcribed by a computer to a 3D model). If there's a little distortion in the perception of the human form (like in this case because of a long dress), the software will not be able to translate your movements properly and your avatar will have strange seizures and jerking limbs like we've seen it countless times in the Ricochet videos.

That's also why it is difficult to make a game work while seated, the movements will have to be mapped to your arms and head (the only parts of your body that the software will be able to distinguish). Although it is not a problem for navigating a dashboard which requires only few simple arms gestures, it is way more difficult to do it with a game that requires numerous complicated control schemes.

gaffyh5024d ago

I actually made a comment about this a few months ago. Someone posted a story about what Natal sees, and they had a pictured which was taking the outline of a person's clothes. So I immediately assumed that it wouldn't work properly if you were wearing baggy clothes.

Looks like I was right.

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sikbeta5024d ago

lol I was thinking about tuxedos when I read the title, but Ms can bundle kinect with space-ponchos ....

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HolyOrangeCows5024d ago

Do we all have to wear jumpsuits and sweat pants like Mr. Sunglasses-Indoors?

AAACE55023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

And I was looking forward to playing butt naked with a cowboy hat on!

Aikuchi5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

What if you wear a Poncho?

WildArmed5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

Omg...
i laughed for the longest time after watching that clip again -.-

Wow.. made my day.
+bubbs man xD

@Aikuchi
I think that's the recommended outfit
*looks at E3*

Denethor_II5023d ago

A free aluminium green wet suit from head to toe with XBOX slashed across it maybe?

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tinybigman5024d ago

Seen so many do's and donts for playing some motion control games. I'm glad I had no interest in natal from the very beginning.

P1NKY5024d ago

This technology was passed up by the other companies. So basically Microsoft wanted to have a piece of the Motion Control market, but only had the tech that no one else wanted.

IdleLeeSiuLung5023d ago

Yup, and Verizon turned down the iPhone. We already now how that went?

By the way, the skeleton tracking is MS technology. So nobody passed that up....

Biggest5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

And we all know that iPhone is the best phone.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Microsoft invented skeleton tracking? Seriously, dude? Did they also invent the letter M? How about computers? Did they invent those too? Look through this timeline and tell me what kind of whatever the hell you're crediting Microsoft with making you can find.

http://design.osu.edu/carls...

IdleLeeSiuLung5023d ago

Best or not, that is pretty much a subjective measure. We do know that iPhone is the fastest growing smart phone. Don't deny it's sucess, because you hate it!

I don't like Apple, and have never bought an Apple product for my personal use, but I don't deny it's success.

"Microsoft invented skeleton tracking?"

I didn't say INVENTED! I said that the skeleton tracking is MS technology, but I'm sure you hate MS so you will deny that success to MS as well.

jerethdagryphon5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

1982:Skeleton Animation System (SAS) developed at CGRG at Ohio State (Dave Zeltzer)

so yea not microsoft

its animation not tracking but all the tracking is a a basic program which can map joints to body shapes it cant actually track your skeleton due to the fact it can xray you

Consoldtobots5023d ago

actually android phones are outselling Iphones now.

so much for your point, oh wait you never had one.

potenquatro5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

Android phones are many many many many phones by many many many many manufacturers available on many many many many providers and a new one comes out every other week. iphone is just ONE phone regardless of the provider still sellin old models.

Your comment doesnt surprise me, your one of the biggest haterz on this site...You hate MS, APPLE...Shoot you just hate for the sake of hatting

BTW; IdleLeeSiuLung comment was tottally picked apart and taken out of context...looks like some people have an agenda

outlawlife5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

skeletal animation and skeleton tracking are not the same thing

actually it does track your skeleton because it uses algorithms bases on your height, body shape and joint position to determine bone length and position

once those are determined it maps virtual bones to your image, which is use for positioning on the screen, or mapping your movements to a character such as an avatar

skeletal animation is a technique used for 3d models and animation that allows you to create a skeleton for a character or creature to allow for realistic animation instead of painstaking key framing and tweening for fluid movements

animations without skeleton systems take hundred of key frames for a smooth movement, a skeletal system can cut the same animation down to a fraction of that

that technology has very little, if anything, to do with what the tracking of kinect does

Christopher5023d ago

***And we all know that iPhone is the best phone. ***

Microsoft doesn't make the best OS or office products... but they're the most purchased as well...

We know that best doesn't equate to most sold. The problem is, the businesses follow the consumers when they flock to one, so the iPhone has the most support that makes it desirable.

BigPenguin5023d ago

I know, I know, personal anecdotes don't mean anything. So feel free to not read this. I am going to type it anyways.

I purchased an iPhone the first week it came out(yes for $600). I have since had 6 of them, because they are horribly made and have no customer support if they break(btw, calling their employees genius' is the biggest laugh I have ever seen). I keep purchasing them however. Why you may ask? For the same reason I spent 4k on a watch, because its a status symbol, and I have to look professional(I just graduated, but I have had a job lined up for over a year, because I am a licensed real estate appraiser, and I did it solo to put myself through school).

I have to imagine its the same with most people. I carry a blackberry and an iPhone around at all times, and let me tell you, despite being way better, no one gives a crap about the blackberry

BTW, I am not trying to say anything about kinect, I just wanted you all to know I hate the iphone.

outlawlife5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

If you think you need $4k watches and an iphone to look professional, dealing with broken phones is the least of your problems. It really isn't the same with most people, most people buy phones to use them. They don't buy one as a piece of jewelery and the other to use. Above all a phone is a utility and if you regard it as meaning anything else you are a bit dim.

I have a high end android phone and guess what? I don't care if it makes me look like I'm cool, or I have money because I get work based on my merit and my ability. Some of my clients are multi-billion dollar corporations and they don't care what my phone is either.

This post makes it seem you need to live in the real world a bit.

BigPenguin5023d ago

Really asshole? You are making personal attacks? Did I make any? No. There was an argument about the iPhone, and it being the fastest growing smart phone on the market. I added to the conversation. I gave my thoughts on why it is selling fast. I gave the rest of the info because I tend to find it useful when I know a bit more about the person who is talking. It lets people know how to interpret the comment. I also said before I started the message that I know my opinion would not be worth much.

But you had to act like an asshole. I don't know what your company does, but I am sure you personally are not going to lose someone more then 15 million if you make a mistake. I run into this about every 4 months, but normally it is only 3-4 million(weekly or so, rest of the time is under 1 million). Oh and btw, this is not like, oh they will not make money this in the future, this is they have the money, and I can only lose it. I have to run that risk. I have to purchase E&O insurance. That is error and omission insurance, and it is like malpractice insurance. I am also bonded, and it took me 7 years of training to be licensed by the government to do be doing what I am doing, and I have to take continuing education for the rest of my life.

Want to know the best part, because I am considered competent to give appraisals by the government, I can be sued to hell for even speculating, as in verbal, on the price of property if someone acts on it. In case you don't understand it, it means my word can legally be taken as truth. I didn't say literally, I said legally.

I cannot mention names, because if I do, bye bye license, but let me tell you this. You say some of your clients are multi-billion dollar corporations, well fuck you. I did my training in Los Altos(hills)/Cupertino/Palo Alto/Sunnyvale/Mountain View. I have shaken hands with actual billionaires, not just corperations. I mentioned I have had a waiting job for over a year, my boss is a 40+ millionaire, as in the person I directly report to.

You say I need to grow up and live in the real world? You say I don't need all those things to look cool(fuck you, I never used the word cool, I said professional). It sounds like you don't even know what the real world is. Don't make personal attacks.

BigPenguin5023d ago

Oh by the way, are you really trying to tell me you don't think being a status symbol is part of why the iPhone is selling so well?

Because you never even argued against my point, you just attacked me. If you do not even disagree with my actual argument, it means you are just a cock. Way to be a tough guy on the internet.

outlawlife5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

Being a tough guy on the internet? All I did was imply your mindset was deluded and childish. It still is.

An iphone is not a status symbol. Twelve year old girls have iphones and nobody is giving them any credibility. You are the one busting out the tough guy hostility here, not me.

Just because you hold yourself to a self important standard doesn't mean everybody else does. That was my original point. Your view is that these so called status symbols actually matter, they don't.

Nobody cares how fancy your watch is or that you have an iphone. Neither one of those things will get you anywhere. Do you actually think a client will look at your watch and actually think "his watch is shiny he is good". It means jack.

Looking to things like phones and watches as a measure of status or professionalism is disgusting, and I'll stand by that opinion.

Here is the big thing you need to grasp:

If you post something on an open forum you should be prepared for someone to disagree with what you say. In my opinion what you said was ridiculous and it puts you in a less than favorable light as a person.

There is a quite difference between a personal attack and an opposing opinion, I suggest you learn the difference. The way you responded it is clear that you are quite mature. Grow up, really.

I'm not going to go into what I do because I am under NDA's for just about everything, and it isn't really anyone's business. All I will and will say is that I work within the design industry, designing intellectual properties as well as dealing with liscenses and branding. I have done work for EA, Activision, the NBA, Gibson Guitars, as well as several large record labels.

This isn't a contest. I don't care if you shake hands with billionaires. I don't work for a company I AM my company. I know how to represent myself to people, watches and phones have nothing to do with it.

BigPenguin5023d ago

Ok, we both think we are better then each other, and we are not going to convince each other. Lets not talk any more about real life, just the facts from now on. I was serious about not being able to say more legally, I assume you are as well. We need to stop that portion before we both make mistakes. I have already said a bit more then I feel comfortable with, and I attempted to edit, but to late.

In my original post I made a comment, expressing my view. You say you did not make a personal attack, that you had a dissenting opinion. The definition of a personal attack is when a person substitutes abusive remarks for evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims. Do you agree with the definition?

You then responded to my comment with one of your own, saying such things as how I must be a bit dim, and I need to live in the real world. Those are directed at me, thus, definitional, they were personal attacks. Do you disagree?

I think you will find that you did in fact make personal attacks directed towards me, yet you said in your most recent reply that you had not at all. I think you will find that it is in fact you that needs to find the difference between a personal attack and dissenting opinion.

Your comment about 12 year old girls having iPhones is a very good point. It is in fact the only time in your entire reply to my posts that you actually addressed what I had said in the first comment. Do you really stand by the fact that you did not personally attack me for no reason?

outlawlife5023d ago

Actually what I said was this:

"most people buy phones to use them. They don't buy one as a piece of jewelery and the other to use. Above all a phone is a utility and if you regard it as meaning anything else you are a bit dim."

Whether you take that as a personal attack or not is up to you, but to me it isn't. it is a statement that if you or anyone else holds that specific view I think it is a little left of stupid. A phone is a device, a utility. It is no more important than a pen or a spoon.

Why do people spend hundreds of dollars on pens? The same reason you bought the watch, and the same reason women show off their engagement rings. They think it will impress people, but it really doesn't. Sure it may look nice but in the end that watch doesn't actually get you anywhere.

That is my opinion, it isn't an attack. Had you said the same to me I wouldn't regard that as an attack. I think that the idea of an iphone as a status symbol or a watch making you look professional is a bit silly.

I think that whole view is ridiculous and if that is you view I think you are detached. That is my opinion, and criticism. Whether you take criticism as an attack or you turn it into something positive and take note that what you said was almost comical.

Many people will get farther ahead in life with a swath of humility and discretion than anyone ever will with an overpriced watch and an iphone.

You can't really say anything about my opinion being a personal attack when you call me an "a--hole" and "c-ck".

Regardless, my opinion stands. Whether you still stand the same or not doesn't matter to me because I've wasted enough bubbles on talking about why Peacocking is less than admirable.

I think clamoring for status among your peers with material possessions is ridiculous and a poor character trait. If you possess those traits then I guess you can regard that as an attack.

Take this as a bit of advice. Self importance is a nasty character trait to possess. Take a lesson in humility and learn to disagree without using curse words. It is a very immature tact to take. No matter how well off in life you think you are or how expensive your watch or latest toy may be not one person will respect you for flashing it. If you want to impress people with an expensive watch, wear it under your jacket.

Every kid who gets out of college and lands their first grown up job thinks they have the world by the balls. Only thing is that it never actually works that way.

Nicaragua5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

You sound like an absolute bell-end mate, rambling on about money and status symbols like that adds weight to your arguments.

I save lives every day and i dont need to put my iphone on display to gain extra respect from my colleagues - we just do our fucking job and the responsibilty we bear is literally life or death, but that has fuck all to do with this gaming site.

So dont come on here preaching about your job, nobody is impressed or gives a shit. TBH you should be ashamed that you have bought into the vapid society that nurtures such shit like iphones as status symbols -its a phone, get over yourself.

Ruind5023d ago

I think I'm in love with you. No sarcasm intended. Seriously, to find intelligence in a post was quite a refreshing change. I thank you.

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Silver3605024d ago

Jumping and running in place in a long skirt in the first place.
She is lucky Kinect couldn't recognize her legs otherwise she would have busted her butt.

danielle0075024d ago

I understand you not having worn long skirts before. Hell, even I never do.. But, my mom does allll the time. If they're not tight, then skirts are super comfy and you can do anything in them.

thewhoopimen5024d ago

No kilts or bathrobes for the men... sigh.

oohWii5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

What the hell do you people expect. You are using motion sensing device that picks up on your body parts and joints. What the fu#k to you expect people to wear a damn cape?

This is just some lonely Ass-wipe putting negative crap out on Kinect to get a rise out of the 360 fans. Probably because the 360 outsold the PS3 by 1.5x.

Whenever good 360 news is posted on this site it is immediately countered with massive amounts of negative sh!t posted by the SDF.

lelo2play5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

With all the bashing Kinect has been taking... it would be funny if it was a big success. I would LOL. Good or bad, Kinect is surly getting a lot of publicity. Personally i think casuals are going to eat it up. Time will tell.

acky15024d ago

No doubt its gonna be a massive success cos consumers (especially American consumers) are easily persuaded (idiots) for anything they see in adverts that is the new 'cool' thing to have. Thanks to Beiber the beaver and other marketing techniques its gonna sell like hotcakes.

rwarner1745024d ago

acky1 (the especially American) thing always pisses me off. I have been to Europe. It certianly isn't the meeting of the minds over there. For the most part in Europe its the meeting of lazy people in coffee shops smoking cigarettes and talking about how much longer they can put off reality that people need to work to survive before it comes crashing down in there face.

That being said. People (of all Nationalties) are idiots.

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Pennywise5024d ago

So, this is the confirmation that Kinect comes with a greenman suit?

Charlie will be pleased.

fatstarr5023d ago

soo thats why they showed off kenect at macys instead of bestbuy
I see i see.

ranmafandude5023d ago

i need some hot popcorn it's gonna get crazy in here lol.

1Victor5023d ago

in Scotland kinect plays you

superrey195023d ago

and people thought wearing glasses for 3D was inconvenient...

pixelsword5023d ago

I just wanna find those 360 fanboys who were complaining about wearing glasses for the PS3's 3d (which all 3d had to do in the past anyways).

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NJShadow5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

Break out the blue ponchos!

cossie1235024d ago

funny really as ive seen many people in many types of clothing play kinect with no issue.

CrAnKiTuP_015024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

What's next? No wearing black colors?? No hats? No long sleeves? No jacket's? No sitting?... oh wait... No AFROS?!?!

fooltheman5024d ago

... hmm well if your hair takes half the space the camera is filming...

Scary695023d ago

I think its recommended that everyone plays naked..LOL

SSKILLZ5023d ago

No clothes!

Gamer: What! why dose my Afro have to go!!! not cool!

Microsoft: kinect will registe it as a second player thus ruining game
experience.

Gamer: F@#% !!!!!!!!!!

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia815d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog815d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916814d ago (Edited 814d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69814d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming814d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79814d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember814d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog815d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop814d ago (Edited 814d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog814d ago (Edited 814d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop814d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic814d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop814d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic813d ago (Edited 813d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal814d ago (Edited 814d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic814d ago (Edited 814d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10814d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar814d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10814d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell814d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10814d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72814d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming814d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog814d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming814d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming814d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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Pivotal Decisions in Gaming History - Xbox Goes All-In on Kinect

Xbox 360's Kinect had flopped yet Microsoft insisted on mandatory Kinect for Xbox One, driving the price up and alienating their potential customers.

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darthv72991d ago

the tech was pretty damn good but their focus on making it the centerpiece was not. Had they opted to keep it as a secondary or even tertiary device, it may have found new use for AR/VR.

PrimeVinister991d ago

Maybe. But they were two early for VR and too late for motion control

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Godmars290991d ago

Their focus was marketing metrics. Information gathering for targeted advertising. Also "event curating" or head counting for special TV events. If MS had had their way with always online and mandatory Kinect pre COVID, as and during it they'd likely be turning into dominant presence in many Western homes. Be getting subsidized by Disney and other streamers as well as the NFL.

Thing was, Kinect as an actual game system, its games, just weren't ready. MS moved on it too soon. Thankfully.

Atticus_finch991d ago

Sorry but it was incredibly bad for gaming. The thing barely worked as intended and the games were broken shovelware. And let's not forget all the lies from Xbox to try and sell it. What happened to Milo?
It's like Xbox it's a perpetual lying machine.

PrimeVinister991d ago

I had almost forgotten about Milo. It looks so unbelievable in retrospect. How did anyone believe it?!

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TheEnigma313991d ago

Kinect requirement, TV focused, DRM, and $100 buried Xbone before it even stared.

PrimeVinister991d ago (Edited 991d ago )

I think Kinect was the worst of the bunch. They reversed DRM overnight and try to play down the TV stuff when they realised it made them look disinterested in gaming.

Kinect stuck around for six months, preventing sales and making more and more people upset when they dropped the Kinect and the price.

Atticus_finch991d ago

Don't forget the inferior hardware which affects their game development to this day.
And the constant boasting and lying that hasn't change very much to this day.

kayoss991d ago

I was kind of excited for the kinect. It had potential. That was until i tried it at one of their Microsoft store. The thing was so laggy and worker who was there, had no clue what he was doing. It kind of made rethink about buying an Xbox One with Kinect.

PrimeVinister991d ago

I had already been turned off of the idea by Kinect for 360. Even when it worked, the games were bad and showed no potential.

Wii made you understand what they were going to do with it within about 10 seconds of Wii Sports. It went on to become a bit of a joke but at least it worked and had a purpose.

Thundercat77991d ago

The damage to the Xbox brand was so hard that til this day they are just the last place brand in the market.

PrimeVinister991d ago

Totally. They haven't been really all that relevant since.

Godmars290991d ago

That has to do with repeatedly failing, having to reaffirm only to again fail at creating a competent flow of decent games.

@PrimeVinister:
Until Game Pass and BC are mentioned. Only for the point to be missed.

kayoss991d ago

thats because they dont know what they want to be. A gaming console, Television, or a gaming service?

Godmars290991d ago

@kayoss:
They wanted, expected, to be Steam. To have everyone coming to them and paying for the privilege. That's the exact mentality on display when they tried to push always online.

brewin990d ago

Its sad because the Xbox one version of Kinect was actually pretty solid. Not for motion games, I couldnt care less about those, but for the other features that are now commonplace in the gaming ecosystem. Things like voice control and optional motion features in games. Stuff that Sony did with the PS camera was pretty sweet and they could have done some of that stuff with Kinect.

The tech was pretty sweet when implemented right though. Who remembers the implementation in Dead Rising 3?! You could lure zombies away by saying stuff into the kinect, it was a bit hokey at first, but it actually enhanced the game significantly once you learned all the different voice commands. There was and still is nothing else like that!

The focus on TV seemed to be an issue for people, but the TV pass through had some real potential. They could have had cable companies giving the XBone out instead of cable boxes! I understood what they were trying to do, but they needed to show the games too, and thats where they lost the core gamers. Being able to jump right to a sports event or TV show with out leaving the console was actually a pretty cool thing. I spent many nights switching between NHL games or TV shows and jumping right back into my games seamlessly, just by telling Kinect to do so. It was better than people care to admit, but I loved it!

People say XBone had no games, but on launch I got Dead Rising 3, AC Black Flag, Watch Dogs, Killer Instinct, Battlefield 4, Forza 5, and Ryse. That was actually a pretty solid lineup in hindsight! Then later on it got gems like Quantum Break, Dead Rising 4, Sunset Overdrive, Gears 4 and 5, the Ori games, Rare Replay, Forza Horizon 3/4, State of Decay 2, ReCore (SUPER UNDERRATED GEM), Halo 5, Halo Wars 2, and all the great 3rd party stuff as well! I dare anyone who sat on the Xbox One to go back and give it a shot now.

It was actually a pretty great console all things considered. Yes the PS4 had better 1st party stuff, stuff that MS just couldnt top or even compete with, but there are some really great games that a lot of people missed out on that they would probably really enjoy if they actually played them. Thats why I recommend a Series S and Gamepass to a lot of people, as its a great way to get an awesome lineup pf games for super cheap!

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