The PS3 only does everything, except good 3D

Gamer Limit writes: "A lot of people are skeptical about the future of 3D gaming on consoles, but until recently, I was not one of them. Actually, one of the highlights of E3 I was most looking forward to was finally getting my hands on some of the 3D games Sony announced for the PS3, like Killzone 3 and Wipeout HD.

Maybe I shouldn’t have had such high hopes though, because if there’s one thing life has taught me, it’s that few things ever live up to the hype. Now that I’ve played multiple PS3 games in 3D, I’m here to explain why the console isn’t quite ready to jump into the third dimension just yet."

[FishCake9T4]

Good quality article but come on, 3D is just starting out, give it a chance.

[Shaman]

3D like KZ3s wont really work that well on this gens consoles,its a fact.Its simply needs more horsepower than those consoles have.Have you seen comparison between KZ3 2d and 3d?Its night and day...full of jaggies and its very low resolution.We will have to wait and see Cryteks solution,performance hit is only 1.5% and its 720p,its more pleasing on eye(as alot who saw it said) and it got alot of awards from E3 for its 3D.

[DigitalAnalog]

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but the developer himself stated that it won't compromise the visuals.

http://www.videogamer.com/n...

You will worship anything that is Crytek knowing they can work with nearly limitless capacity on the PC and yet you will fail to give credit to 1st party studios simply because they are from Sony.

I really hope you remember the days of GOWIII's demo back when it was severely attacked by underwhelming graphics by many news sources.

-End statement

[Rock Bottom]

So at the start of your comment you say 3D wont work with this gen's console and how they need more horsepower, then you go on to talk about how Crysis 2 got 3D right?

I like it when people make themselves look like idiots. :)

[raztad]

I LOL @ people thinking Crytek with its cheap trick will do better 3D than Sony and their team that are experts in 3D tech.

GT5 is 3D ready since almost 2 years ago. Game runs flawless at 60 fps 720prs in 3D. The way they do sounds awfully similar to Crytek recently discovered "magic" trick which render the 3D image inside the screen.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

I dont doubt KZ3 will be 720p 30fps vsynced in real 3D. Guerrilla will prove the doubters wrong again.

I cant shake the feeling 3D on xbox vs 3D on PS3 will prove to be like upscaled dvd vs BD.

[HSx9]

I like how the author includes a 3D movie which absolutely sucked as his Article Picture, just to subliminally make you agree with his biased opinion.
The truth is, 3D for gaming is in it's first generation, like a beta... You're telling me that's been out enough years to be developed at great standards? Besides I'm sure for most games it will just be an option to enable 3D or however that works out. Like FishCake said, give it a chance.

[RedDevils]

have just show us the proof that there is still lots of dumbass within this world we live in :D

[zeeshan]

And when you can't find any. Shaman stands up and says "HERE I AM!"

[Lich120]

The fact of the matter is, to produce 3d visuals you have to render the scene twice for every one frame we actually see. Because of this, its common sense that games which are presently taking full advantage of the platform they are on are going to have to take a hit in visuals to account for the double frame rendering.

[morganfell]

You can't give it a chance, not when the console you support has slagged off on 3D. It's like Bluray, same fight all over again.

[Legosz]

Wrong. 3D will never work unless someone actually has a big 80'' projection screen, that is when you can take full advantage of 3d technology. Have you ever played a 3d game on a 42'' TV? No you have not, and I have. I can tell you 3D will never work on todays small televisions.

[Godmars290]

Since when was a 42" set considered "small?"

Would also like to know what contest you used 3D, since what's being talked about by Sony is something new.

[Qui-Gon Jim]

The size of the TV/screen only matters in relation to how far away you sit. THX standards are that the distance between you and the screen should be 1.5 to 2 times the diagonal screen size (eg. my 40" is the recommended size since my couch is about 5 feet away from it). A 46" screen can seem small if you sit 10 ft away, and a 32" screen can seem huge if you're 2 ft away from it.

There is some personal preference involved, but if you're watching things on a 80" screen and you're less than 10 feet away from it, then you have to move your eyes or head around to see everything.

Long story short: you don't need a huge screen to enjoy 3D.

[snp]

Actually, Legosz i own a 50" Samsung Plasma 3dtv.

Watch it from about 3 meters away (intend on setting up lounge to watch from ~4.5/5 meters, but have to wait on getting rid of a piece of furniture).

Size isn't a problem; the effect comes through fine.

The article has some valid points - the darkness when glasses are on takes some getting used to and is a negative of the tech - but other areas it's just over the top. The Hud on Wipeout for example, doesn't bother me in the slightest and he's being histrionic there. Yes if you stare at it, it doesn't seem usefully placed, but if you are playing the game watching your track and vehicle (which is the way i play) it's much of a whatever.

The biggest problem with 3dtv, actually having a few hours experience of it now, is in ghosting/cross talk. But even this seems as much software as hardware. Wipeout will go for large chunks of having none, and then some will pop up right at the end (or the vehicles won't synch up properly right at the start, but then will be fine for the rest of the race etc.). The areas of cross-talk don't seem to occur in areas any more complex than those without it. Super Stardust is probably the prettiest 3d (although 3rd person Wipeout is most effective). It has virtually no cross-talk, and is a really pretty sort of stencil syle 3d.

Sometimes you'll get cross-talk on really simple movies (trailers), but then quite comparatively complex trailers (eg. a german 3d trailer for Avatar) and it works flawlessly, and there is none. So again, i'm wondering if that's a limitation of software/implementation at least some of the time.

But that is imo the biggest problem. For the most part this article is merely subjective nitpicking - which he is, of course entitle to do, but something that can be done with every piece of technology, and every aspect of every game for that matter.

[jmmurillo86]

Shameful biased ignorant hick author I would say (no offense).

[ji3200]

EVERY EXPERTS AT E3 2010 SAID 3D WAS AMAZING EXCEPT THIS ARTICLE. AND I PLAYED WIPEOUT 3D AND I CAN SEE THE CLEAR DISTANTCE MUCH BETTER WHEN I PLAY IT!!!!! I CANT WAIL FOR GT5!!! MAKE MORE 3D GAMES PLEASE SONY!!!!!!!!!

[HSx9]

This guy should try out to do 3D Animation since he can provide faster feedback than a camel on rollerskates.

[sid4gamerfreak]

"The PS3 only does everything...except full hd on most of its games

[Toman85]

But the exclusive to PS3 is better looking than the titles on MS side by a big rockslide ;)

[Karooo]

1080p 3D enough said.

[cliffbo]

i heard the dev say 3d in 1080p myself so it is confirmed.

[evrfighter]

1280x1080?

I was gaming at 1280x1024 before the ps3 even dropped lol

1920x1080 is what's commonly referred to as 1080p. Which GT5 does not play at.

Though still 1280x1024 I would consider HD on a non widescreen monitor. So it's bound to look better than your common 540p/720p console game.

[123360]

hand held 3ds versus 60" 3d lcd thats whats happening a lot from all sites but mostly these one man band reveiwers,bottom line can,t afford it so knock it,it happened with bluray and even the ps3 as a console,now the price has come down every one wants it.3ds is of zero interest to me, why even mention it a 3" f@ckin screen and cookin mama crap

[DaTruth]

Apparently 1080p Bluray looks not much better than standard definition; or that's what they'd have us believe back in 2007. We all know that's not true now so we can assume many fanboy bloggers will say the same about 3D!

Edit @ a lot of you: Damn, you people argue too much! I can't believe some of you have kept this up since 2006!

You guys are ridiculous!

[SilverDragon1979]

Hopefully the quality of 3D games on the PS3 can get better with time as developers learn how to utilize it properly to enrich the gameplay experience. It's disappointing to know it doesn't impress in its present state though.

[raztad]

My friend dont pay much attention to this article, better watch the reaction of someone playing KZ3 3D

http://www.latenightwithjim...

[arakouftaian]

killzone 3 in 3d is mindblowing amazing
sorry if i made you fell jealous but i hope you
guy play it sometime soon or test it, its sweet

[raztad]

@^^^

Dont worry bro. I'm very glad a fellow gamer got to enjoy KZ3D. I'm moving very soon, selling my TV in the process and getting a 3DTV set.

I already bought SSHD 3D. I heard it looks amazing as well.

[sikbeta]

lol J.F. Was Totally Amazed by the KZ3D Gameplay Demo and raz is Right, no-1 should take this article serious, 3D is Amazing and it0s Here to Stay...

[MGRogue2017]

PS3 doesn't need 3D imo .. It already does everything & that's good enough for me. :)

[iliimaster]

hater fanboys in here holding onto their xboxes likes its their company going down slowly but surely

[DelbertGrady]

Yuenanimous gets reported trolling for writing "Good article... I'm still not convinced that 3d is the next new thing", but your comment is ok?

NICE WORK MODS! Another classic :)

[zeeshan]

@Soda: The fact that are you STILL not banned for continuously trolling PS3 articles and leaving flamebait comments shows that Mods are not doing their job! Yes nice work mods!

[Voiceofsoi]

A lot of people haven't tried this new stereoscopic 3D lark and yet they already have opinions about it. I've tried it. It's very good. I haven't seen games, but I've seen game trailers and CG movies and it's epic, So I basically have the opposite opinion to this journalist. Sure, it will give you a headache after about an hour or two, but the same could be said of Marvel vs Capcom, and it's early days yet.

It's the next standard. End of story. Sony produces Tvs, they own SCE and Columbia Pictures, they've got Samsung, Panasonic, and IBM as resources and Nintendo's glasses-free 3D technology only works with a custom screen - and I don't see Nintendo making their own line of Tvs anytime soon. Sony is in control of what comes next, just like they were with Blu-Ray. 3D is the next thing.

[Seferoth75]

The tech Nintendo is using is not something they created. IN fact TVs were shown using it at CES last year.

It is amusing to see people completely clueless about it telling everyone how it works.
Did you even read what you wrote? Sony is better cause they have IBM just like Nintendo and MS do? Oh and they have Samsung so that some how makes their version of 3D legit?

LOL also you must not know anything of Sonys history in making media formats. They failed with Beta, They had to cave and agree to use the DVD standard when they were going to make their own. They failed with UMDs. Okay they got BLuray through by taking advantage of their naive fan base but so far they are 1 for 4. Hardly a stellar track record.

To me it is a clear sign when they ONLY people backing Sony on this seem to be completely clueless.

[ER-AM]

You're right. Glasses free 3D was shown at CES. Funny how you don't mention the big fucking problem with them: The narrow viewing angle that essentially makes the TV a single user device unless you line everyone up in front of the TV.

And Beta failed? Not really if you know anything or do research. Betamax failed in home markets, but became betacam and dominated professional applications in the 80s and 90s.

Everyone would have been screwed if they had not come to an agreement because IBM did not want to get involved in another format war. The resulting disc, DVD, took specs from both formats. Also, Sony "being forced to back another format, has made them a shitload of money. Yeah, that was a bad decision.

UMDs were never meant to replace anything, just an atempt to make more money.

Your bluray comments make no sense at all. I really have no idea of how to respond to that level of stupidity.

[Arksine]

"They had to cave and agree to use the DVD standard when they were going to make their own."

Sony had a large hand in creating the DVD standard, as they were one of the founding members of the DVD Forum. You just pulled that BS out of left field in an attempt to back your fanboy nonsense.

UMD was never designed to be a standard outside of the PSP, so I don't see where that is applicable in this argument. Its like saying DS carts failed because they aren't used in any devices outside of the DS.

Also, while autostereoscopic technology has been shown on large televisions, the consensus is that it is not even close to being viable at retail. The effect is far less dramatic than 3d with shutter glasses, and the viewing angle must be dead on for the effect to work at all. These restrictions aren't a huge issue for handhelds, which is why you are seeing them used on the 3DS and cell phones. But I doubt Parallelax-Barrier or Lenticular 3d tech will ever be viable on large screens because the limitations are inherent in the technology. I am confident new autostereoscopic technologies will arise and overcome these issues, but we years away from that.

I can't comprehend why you seem so upset with Sony pushing technology forward. Perhaps you don't mind gobbling up recycled 10 year old technology such as the Wii. Its just good to see Nintendo is finally trying to push something forward with the 3DS.

The only one who seems to be clueless here is yourself.

[MysticStrummer]

First... figure out how to spell your own name. Second... try to mix in some facts during your opinion filled rants. Beta was the better format in every way but cost, so as explained by ER-AM it didn't catch on with home consumers but became the pro standard. Some failure. Glasses free 3D TVs are nowhere close to being reality. Make sweet love to your 3DS all you want but that tech is not applicable to TVs used by more than one person at a time. UMDs failed but as ER-AM said they weren't meant to replace anything. I'd say the DVD thing is offset by the fact that Blu-ray is replacing them. I know my comments don't matter, since you labeled me as a "casual" because I don't want to play Mario, Donkey Kong, and Kid freakin Icarus, but try to remember as you rant against fanboys that you are a big one.

[beardpapa]

A lot of Sony's media formats that seem like they 'failed' are really a misconception. Granted they probably 'failed' as a consumer product-of-choice, but they mostly ended up in professional industry instead.

If you got friends in their 40s or 50s that worked in the media recording industry, you'd learn that beta was used as the medium of choice in video recording production and minidisc was the format used by many indie and professional music artists. Minidisc (which offered recording flexibility at near-CD level quality audio) was also a very popular format for consumers in Japan. MD was never really accepted here in the US because we had cassettes, and by the time they did arrive, CDs (which Sony had a hand in) were making their way into homes and cars.

Sony did come out with Hi-MD late in its life when mp3s/ipods were becoming the next thing. Though Hi-MD also 'failed' as a consumer-choice device, many field journalists and music producers enjoy using Hi-MD recording devices for work-related audio recordings. Like having studio-grade recording equipment in a pocket. I still believe Sony took the Hi-MD technology and turned it into UMD to use on the PSP [so that their R&D wouldn't have gone to waste].

[maddhatter123]

i'll take the word of many big game sites over this one little site and they say it looks incredible saying it is a game changer and even comparing it to avatar. 3D is the future all you haters(360 fanboys the only group not really getting much 3D) can continue living in the past you're just going to have even less impressive games then you do now when it becomes the standard because you will be playing catch up.

[Keltik82]

But with time look what happened.

[Becko]

3D is not even available yet and people is starting to say isn't good... wait for it and check it for yourself,

[Theonetheonly]

3d is available. Just not for consoles yet.

same technology.

same glasses.

same refresh rate.

I can say It looks good.

Ive never done it on low resolutions tho.

Nothing under 1920x1200.

Guess it depends on opinion.

[PS360PCROCKS]

That was actually a very well written article and very informative. I have heard this before about the foreground and background being distracting. Look at Jimmy Kimmel he put on those glasses and was immediately confused and died. I think it's the future, they just have to figure what works and what doesn't.

[Miacosa]

I have heard conflicting feedback with regards to 3D. Some say its the best thing ever others say it simply does not work for them. The best thing to do is test this out for yourself and than make a judgment call. Even the darling of E3 the 3DS has been getting the same kinda feedback from people. I think it comes down to if your eyes are defective in some way you'll not have a great experience with 3D regardless of tech.

[SonyNGP]

After seeing Killzone 3 being a jaggied blurry mess in the press conference video, I'd rather have better quality 2D.

[Focker420]

Its a pre-alpha build!! They've still got 9 months of development left. Plus the 2D HD trailer from the press conference in the PS Store looked amazing. Even in pre-alpha.

[rekof]

Depends on the game,.. they have to make compromises in quality of certain assets in some games,..
I heard Motorstorm is f***** insane ,.. I used to have one of the first glasses that worked with nvidia chips,.. 3d is insane!

[weazel]

Wow. It's like a no-life circle jerk with the amount of unsubstantiated anti-sony ramblings in the thread. Have some self respect dudes, and at least conclusively prove your opinions, rather than basing them on some hit-hungry illiterate website!!

[Allowen]

I am not quite sure how does it looks like to see 3D in one of those 3D TVs but no one can stand to watch two 3D movies in a row bc our eyes get extremely tired.

What I think is that atm 3D might be more for ocasional players like those that loves those gadgets (Kinect &wii remotes) over a controlpad or keyboard mouse .

I doubt that a real hardcore PS3 player will preffer to keep using those googles all night long while playing a multiplayer mode in a FPS for exemple.

[Dorwrath]

I have no desire for 3D. Your not gonna be able to play as long as you would without 3D and I have no desire to hurt my eyes over a period of time.

Let you guys be the guinea pigs first to see how long term 3d effects your eyes.

[ForROME]

Im not convinced that 3d or any of this motion stuff is any good.

The verdict is still out, when these things arent out and when they are I give them a yr if they dont do well, onto the next thing

[lagoonalight]

I'm not convinced nor do I care. I just bought a state of the art local dimmer for my PS3 and it is beyond beautiful. No need for 3D here. Heck, stop motion like Nightmare Before or Fantastic Fox already looks 3D. I sure as hell am not going to be wearing glasses for 5 hours straight. I agree with the article. This is all hype.

[Focker420]

This guy is a tool. "Its confusing where to look" Umm how about you look at your targets you freakin idiot.

"Motorstorm was too dark and we kept running into walls" Maybe you just suck. Motorstorm is a very difficult and unforgiving game. Has this guy even played the previous versions?!

Sounds more like a fanboy rant to me.

[Neko_Mega]

3D isn't for every game, heck Avatar shown that not every movie can use it so good. Their only some titles on the PS3 that I see 3D being something fun to have.

Is it needed? No but it be nice to choose to play in 3D or not, the glasses are going to get cheaper. Just look at the cost for the LED Tv that does 3D, they are pretty cheap for something new.

60inch Sony Tv that can do 3D is being sell for only 2,700 dollars here where I live, so I would give it more time before saying much about it and judging it on price for the glasses.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Avatar proved that James Cameron is a wonderful engineer.

The cameras used for Avatar were designed specifically for 3D. The only other films using this technology are How to Train Your Dragon and The Last Airbender.

3D IS for every movie. It has only been done correctly on a few.

People are so ignorant.

[Tomdc]

YOU are so douchey.. can you not express your opinion without being a dick about it?

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

No.

This guy is either blind or hates Sony.

I'm sorry, but these 3D games are amazing! Unless you've played them, you won't know.

Edit: SubZero - The 3DS is 3D from within a 20 degree angle. It's like an optical illusion. It's not real 3D. Read previews.

The PS3's 3D is phenomenal! Go try it somewhere! As soon as people put those glasses on and press start, they're blown away! Even Fallon was impressed...and he made it painfully obvious that he's never touched a PS3.

[Subzero200x]

and real games.

"I'm sorry, but these 3D games are amazing! Unless you've played them, you won't know."

Yeah tacked on 3d from the 1980's the 3ds does it out of the box.

'The tech Nintendo is using is not something they created. IN fact TVs were shown using it at CES last year."

boy you people are pretty stupid none of these companies create any of this technology it's always made by someone else they just license it.

[Adva]

Says a childish fanboy.

[Claudinho69]

funny thats the opposite of reaction that jimmy felon had...i think i'll go with jimmy felon instead of this guy?

[Consoldtobots]

IT'S FALLON, although Jimmy Felon would be pretty funny.

[MrWonderful]

To me it seems un fair to compare the two whn the 3DS was designed for #d feature right out of the box. Most everyone that is playing on a console has a tv that wasnt designed with 3D being the main feature. The article was a good read, but reports say that the 3DS makes your eyes tired after a short while. So if the glasses make it easier on my eyes than im all for it.

[PSjesus]

Exclusive for Japan,Cos no body else deserve it....
Like what Sharp and Hitachi did for their glasses free 3D mobile screen until Nintendo adopted it for 3DS.
And for Haters you already prefer a cheap console,3000$ TV is out of your League.

[hoops]

Keep what technology? What Technology should Sony keep to themselves PSJesus?

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

I'm still confused as to how the 3DS makes 3D that much better. From what I've seen, (Kid Icarus is what I've seen) It just gives that effect where you can rotate around the player 3D, like we saw with that 3D screenshot of Halo Reach before. So i'm not sure what's the hype with the 3DS, if anyone may enlighten me.

[Expy]

Good luck with Gaming in 3D without glasses. The technology is SO POOR it's not very convenient. The 3DS technology requires you to remain at a STATIC distance from the 3D screen in order to view the 3D effect properly, if you shift to either side, back or forth, the 3D effect vanishes and you have to re-adjust yourself, or the slider to compensate.

It's a POOR implementation of the technology, and 3D TV without glasses will never be mainstream. Only 1-2 people will be enjoying the 3D effect while the other people (not at the right angle) will be seeing blurry TV.

[ER-AM]

You shouldn't say never when it comes to glasses free 3D. Right now you're right, but technology advances every day. I figure in about 5 or 6 years, they'll have the tech for it to work for an entire room glasses free, and another 4 to 5 years to get the price down for mainstream adoption.

[USEYOURFIST]

at a recent event in tvs ect the general feeling from the big companies is that it will be around 2015 that we will see glassless free 3dtv in our homes but if it is of the same quality as active shutter is yet to be seen

im really looking foward to trying 3d games and i think its the logical step until holo tvs or something get invented but right now my main concern is that it makes things darker like wearing sunglases to watch tv

[3sq]

Wait until MS joins the 3D, suddenly 3D is a good thing. This journalist got a free 360 slim?

NOTE: YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLAY IT IN 3D IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, IT'S JUST AN OPTION. NOW STFU GAMERLIMIT.

[Jason143]

3d is truly amazing. This is another one of those typicall n4g articles. author-fail.

[xg-ei8ht]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Ahh that's all i need.

[jmmurillo86]

"the PS3 isn’t doing much that is positive for 3D gaming."

No Imparciality added!
Now with more Fanboy Bullsh*t!

[cyclindk]

"As I delved deeper into the level, I started to realize that it might all be a trick."

What's that comma mid sentence for? Are you thinking about something just before you attempt to complete that fragmented piece of dribble?

I like his (comma) four little friends' comments on his page, cheering for him, "go Andrew!"

Way to go Andrew, have a gold star...

[yog-sothot]

I don't know if 3D is the future, but it really seems to have a different effect depending on the audience : some people have headaches, some people are amazed, some don't even seem to see the effect at all

I'd like to try a game in 3D (Gamescom, maybe) to make my own opinion

[asyouburn]

that sony introduce it now, if they plan to support it heavily. the ps3's 3d may be in its infancy, but if dev's start working out the kinks this gen, then by next gen the 3d will be truly amazing. i dont know why people dont get this.

[bjornbear]

i've heard equal amounts of praise for the 3D, so its pointless to think about it.

one day i'll check it out at a store or something, and judge myself.

either way im not interested due to high prices and glasses, but i'd say give sony time, its still very young tech (with HD tv's and so on)

in 2 or 3 years lets judge =)

[LevDog]

Why do people hate choices or options? All the PS3 has done is given you options.. You want to watch DVD and Blu Ray? Go ahead pick. You want to use WI FI or not? Go ahead pick.. You want motion control or normal controllers? Go ahead pick. You want to have 3d games? Go ahead..

Just because it has ALL these features doesnt mean you have to use them..

ITs there IF you CHOOSE to use them.. Which I think is nice

[Brklynty1]

"Oh yes do you know how much those glasses cost plus the tv, oh dear that's too much, plus those glasses look horrible"...hey wanna know how much a steroscopic tv cost? Yea about 2 years of your college tuition. "Oh look at the 3DS, its wonderful and you don't need glasses"...really now? Let's compair about 3-4" of steroscopic to 50" come on now. 3D will grow. The same way people didn't want HD, the same way people didn't want Blu-Ray and the same way people didn't want to go to digital from analog, it will just grow on you, and become the new trend.

[jneul]

if that is true then why did jimmy fallon go om my gosh on the killzone 3d showings, Ms is reaching deep here posting troll articles about everything sony:(:(

[younglj01]

Anything that comes out of Japan/China all I hear is how its going to fuking fail.Let me ask a question how do you trust more with technology Americans or our Eastern brothers.

Even though I live in tha USA i will buy anything that is made in China/Japan because I know they will not release anything until its perfect.

85% of my electric appliances are from China.

And if im not mistaking wasnt most of tha games he named still in pre alpha.Thats tha problem with this country if its not american and still getting worked on it a fail.But when a amercian company release something and it fails it gets a pass.

And yes i read tha artice he made some good points but to judge technology b4 its truly release its not tha way to go.Because technology changes everyday.

[N4OGs]

They say ok we can praise 3ds and then that will give us an excuse to bash sony. Im sorry but the person who wrote this article obviously has bad vision. He probably has the strongest prescription for glasses ever lol. Im tired of nuubs with bad genes crying all the time. STop breeding already.

[Spenok]

Its funny how this guy says he doesnt like the 3D on the PS3, when just about every other article ive read about 3D, including IGN, and G4 ect ect, went from skepticism to impressed with what they saw of the tech. Im going to wait try it myself before i make any judgements. I have a feeling 3D is here to stay.

[Vip3r]

Honestly, all this motion controls, 3D features are just going to put more stress on devs and could even delay games or up the prices of them.

Imo, it's great that Sony have this feature but I think it should be properly implemented in the next console generation.

[Silly gameAr]

I'd rather try 3D and form my own opinion.

[Darkfiber]

3D without glasses is the only way it'll ever take off. They've had the technology for years and they were planning to release it 2-3 years ago, but they wont because they want to make money off of stupid suckers like you people, buying $4000 for a TV and $200 for each pair of glasses while they laugh all the way to the bank, then release the glasses free TVs two months later and laugh when you go buy one of those. The only way we'll get glasses free 3D tvs is if you morons stop being all "3D IS AMAZING MUST GO BUY MY 3RD TV NOW" and stop buying them, which wont happen. People are amused by flashy gimmicks, like a kid with downs syndrome is amused by tinfoil. Unfortunately most Americans have more money than brains.

Also, I wont buy a 3D tv until long term exposure is proven NOT to fuck up your eyes or your brain, which right now is not looking so good.

[ForeAllEternity]

Not sure if there are any studies out there on negative effects from 3D viewing. Headache and eye strain seem to affect some people is what I've heard. Will have to wait and see.

[Darkfiber]

Just saying, we have no idea. We're the ones who said asbestos was safe, and look at it now. An entire generation of kids growing up watching 3D has to have some developmental effect on their brains. It's unnatural.

[snp]

"They've had the technology for years and they were planning to release it 2-3 years ago"

Garbage. Large screen auto-stereoscopic screens with comprehensive viewing angles don't exist 'now', let alone 2-3 years ago. The only semi-solution they found to the tech (which is a 'sweet spot' tech, and inherently can't be used with large, multi viewer tvs) is to install a tracking device on the centre of monitors to keep up with the eye-line of single viewers.

The only secondary tech demoed - and only this year for the first time - in an attempt to solve the problem is one which puts out '64 sweet spots'. Better, but still a far cry from useful in the family home.

This technology is still years away. Glasses 3d is a bridge - take it or leave it - but you are just absolutely making up stuff pretending auto-stereoscopic tv is anywhere near done, let alone is being held prisoner buy consumer purchasing habits or some such nonsense. If they could sell autostereoscopic tech now they would; hell, it's more appealing tech and would be far easier to sell.

"buying $4000 for a TV and $200 for each pair of glasses while they laugh all the way to the bank, then release the glasses free TVs two months later and laugh when you go buy one of those."

Actually, my 3dtv - a 50" Plasma - was $1983 Australian (or about $1750 US). It also comes with USB dvr functions, with Internet tv, with the most comprehensive/compatible USB media player tv range on the market. And as an added bonus it came with 4 sets of glasses, and a $599 (Au) 3d Bluray player (which, if it were never even used for 3d, is still the the most fully featured Bluray player on the market). Not to mention it has, besides Panasonic perhaps, the best contrast on the market.

Should add, this tv was 10-15% LESS than it's equivalent non-3d model at introduction the year before - and that one came without hundreds of dollars of bonuses.

But, let's not let facts get in the way of good swear ladden, childlike scattershot rant.

Those '$4000' tvs you're talking about, btw, don't cost a fortune because of 3d; they cost a fortune because they are top of line versions of LED (particularly local dimming tech) models (and for that matter all i've seen come with at least 2 pairs of 3d glasses as well). They are very expensive to make, and would cost a fortune even without 3d as a bonus - indeed, in point of fact they did last year, and continue to do so.

[devilhunterx]

Damage control FTW! Another one of those "not needed" blog piece.

[OSU_Gamer]

I know you wouldn't be saying the same thing if it was an article saying something negative about Kinect.

You are a fanboy. I think everyone knows it.

[Seraphemz]

I went to a SONY store and played Motorstorm in 3D and it was awesome, the glasses really didnt bother me, but at the same time. I dont see anyone playing games in 3D for hours at a time which many people do.

[Spydiggity]

cross game voice chat.

[Jorrel56]

Great read. Completely agree.

[BrianC6234]

This guy sounds like he expects too much from 3D. And maybe instead of attacking it he should take more time to see how it does. You don't ever want to test a new technology the way he did. The E3 show floor is the last place to do it. Find a place where it's more like a living room at least. He complained about dark graphics. Maybe that's because of the environment. I don't know about 3D gaming really but I'm not impressed with his report on it.

[vortex_2]

3D is optional, which means:

IF YOU WANT TO BE OBSOLETE AND STICK WITH 2D, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO SO!

[You Noob]

STFU, 3D rock.

[Jazz4108]

3d is nothing new. I use to use it on my sega system. I don't known if anyone remembers the crazy electronic shutter glasses for games like sewer shark.

[GigaGaia]

Why would you need a tv that cost 3000$ for HD? Any tv with a refresh rate of 120hz or above can do the job. I bought my tv last year and it has more then 120hz, didn't cost me 3000$, it costed just a little above 1000$.

As for the glasses, any glasses can do. Just go see a movie in 3D, you get free glasses. I got free glasses you can buy in store for 80$.

Also, 3D is awesome. Super Stardust HD is gorgeous in 3D.

[hoops]

Its not just the refresh rate of 120hz. That TV you bought for $1000 is NOT compatible with the 3D technology coming out. You need to research this fully.
Those glasses you get in the theatre? LOL. Not compatible AT ALL with 3d games coming out.
Who gave you this information? LOL
Those glasses that you need for 3D gaming do not cost $80...
They are $150+ each.
There is a reason that SOny, Samsung, Sharp and Panasonic are bringing out NEW HDTV's that are 3D capable.
You will be quite sad to know that set you have wont be 3D capable.

[JoelR]

*missing the ir sync beacon on the tv
*120 hz internal refresh rate not 120hz input which is required
*requires shutter glasses (rather then circular polarized lens like the theater used)

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(of course this assumes you don`t have a DLP made by samsung or mitsubishi and you didn`t steal glasses from an Xpand bases cinema (they use shutter glasses but have all kinds of security on them))

[0LDSCH00L]

Everyone wants to rush out and wreck thier fukin eyeballs over this overhyped 3D garbage. Lmfao when i start reading about people suing Sony because thier PS3 gave them fuked up mutated looking googly eyes!

[OSU_Gamer]

Everyone keeps saying 3D is optional, and they are right....but what about the non-optional time that devs put into 3D when they could be using it to make their game better.

KZ3 and all these other recent games are like the alice in wonderland of video games.Everyone has seen that Avatar (which was truly amazing), and now everyone wants to "tack" on 3D. Avatar was filmed in 3D making it so amazing. Alice and wonderland and games like KZ3 have all had 3D added after everything was done.

Maybe when games were made specifically for 3D, it will start catching on.

[tyrex]

have you seen kz3 for yourself have you been told by a developer that it was tacked on afterwards. cause i remember a developer said it was made from the ground up with 3d in mind.(not saying he wasn't lying cause i don't know)

[snp]

Games are inherently 3d (well except sprite ones). Alice in Wonderland was attempting to create a 3d image out of - at least partially - a 2d source. There's no reason a 3d game wouldn't convert fine one-for-one into a 3d viewed game.

[IHateYouFanboys]

you PS3 fanboys dont want 3D, do you? because you sure as hell go on and on and on and on and on about how you dont want Sub-HD games on the PS3, especially Sub-HD exclusive games - and pretty much every single game that comes out in 3D is going to be Sub-HD.

and not just like 719p type sub-hd - we're talking SD resolution sub-HD. when a title with as much backing by Sony as Killzone 3 can only get 3D running in very sub-HD resolution, thats saying something.

so you guys wont be buying anything in 3D and certainly wont be telling the rest of us how good it is, will you? since they wont be in HD.

[XactGamer]

Consoles just aren't ready for 3D yet. Next gen the hardware will be more than enough to run 3D but right now consoles are just too weak.

[Newtype]

Looks like the writer played on the wrong type of TV. Everyone knows Panasonic has the best 3D TV. It doesn't mess up when you move.

[Dogswithguns]

I get dizzy just to think about 3D... with the glasses on?!

[blazed13]

heres my thing about 3d... i dont want it. its bad enough that im using a bluetooth device or headset plus a controller now 3d glasses. thats to much crap to be using just for gaming.

[loki52]

3D is affordable people. If you haven't realized it yet, you can buy any samsung or mitsubishi dlp tv and it will be 3D ready. that means you can buy a pretty decent 60-65" 3D ready tv for $1000. It won't be lcd but oh well, it still looks good. so check it out and stop buying into the bs that you have to buy a $3k tv to see 3D.

[JoelR]

be aware that the PS3 does not support checkboard 3d format which is what the DLPs use. Checkboard 3d is also a 1/2 resolution spec vs the over under framepack used by the PS and Blu-ray players

[loki52]

wow. i wasn't aware of that. thank you. looked it up and there are some that can use 1.4 hdmi with an adapter. so you and i were half wrong and half right. good work though.

[earbus]

Yeah die again 3d get your tumors the old fashion way.

[Corrwin]

I'm surer you'll get used to it.

[kasasensei]

I did not try any new 3d technology yet, and i do not plan to try soon.
Way too expensive, and playing with glasses is so ridiculous... I remember 3d cinema in the 80's, with glasses. And now, almost 30 years later, we are still supposed to wear those stupids glasses? Sad.

Hopefully, nintendo is here to offer some real new stuff.

[PJF_Josh]

and from my experience, it's spectacular. Killzone 3 (even in it's current pre-Alpha stage) looked stunning. I can't wait to see how well it's refined by the time the game launches.

I sat and played Gran Turismo 5 and apart from a slight shimmer effect here and there on some of the textures that also looked great. It changed the game entirely with the ability to really 'see' the corners on the track and openings between cars.

Overall, I got to try (or watch over someone's shoulder) Super Stardust, Wipeout, MLB 10, Sly Cooper, Motorstorm Apocalypse, Killzone and Gran Turismo. Each of them looked great and really made me a believer. Is there room for improvement? Of course there is. This is the first take on the technology and it will only get better in time.

The other thing that Sony stated (and I later confirmed with several developers) is that you're getting two complete versions of the games on one BluRay disc, the 3D version and the 2D version. One won't compromise the other and the 3D will be there waiting for you whenever you get a TV to support it.

[labwarrior]

And the worst graphics by far, Bayonetta and RDR are proof PS3 hardware is ancient

The advertisement team of Sony must do much better work if they want to convince that ancient tech in PS3 is any good

360 does 3D far better, Crysis 2 proves it

[ManiacMansion]

3D will be the future for gaming.. but not in this gen.

Look how much money it costs Hollywood to make a Movie in 3D.. only big titles get it.

Same goes for gaming... the tech is right now WAY to expensive and the costs are not efficient for devs.
i bet that MS will bring with the next xbox a true 3D experience before SOny will.