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Should Sony Redesign the PlayStation Controller with "PS4"?

Since the release of the original PlayStation gaming console, Sony has used the DualShock in each of its following gaming systems, the PlayStation 2, and the PlayStation 3. With each release, the necessary improvements have been made to the controller in order to stay even with competition. Many gamers are more than happy with the DualShock controller up to this day because they are accustomed to the controller's feel and love the comfortable setup that it provides. However, others argue that the DualShock is outdated and needs to be completely redesigned the way that Nintendo and Microsoft (to some extent) have done to their respective game pads. Here we will take a look at the evolution of Sony's most popular controller over the years.

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mushroomwig5085d ago

Don't fix what's not broken, that's a great motto.

It's a shame N4G didn't see their website design like that. -__-

toaster5085d ago

I think the new site looks rather nice.

As for the controller, Boomerang FTW!! I always thought that the prototype PS3 controller looks awesome. Sony should totally put it into production.

Reibooi5085d ago

That boomerang would have been nearly impossible to use as a controller. It's shape would cause it to just slide out of your hands.

The DualShock is the best controller out there. Why do you think 90% of the PC controllers made by other companies try their best to copy it? It just works. The PS4 should keep using it there is nothing better they can produce.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5085d ago

''Don't fix what's not broken''

Exactly, that's all people need to know.

Haters of the PS3 Controllers in... 3...2....1:

FlipMode5085d ago

Dont change anything except for the triggers and I'll be happy.

zootang5085d ago

Nintendo lead the way.

Nes/super nes controller. Sets the industry standard. PlayStation Control Pad
N64 Analogue controller. Sets the industry standard. Dual analogue controller
Wii remote. Sets the industry standard. PlayStation Move

What makes anyone think this trend won't continue?
Nintendo Create, PlayStation improve

Just my opinion on controllers

Legosz5085d ago

All they need to do is curve the analogs like the 360 controllers. Other then that it's perfect.

Genji9195085d ago

No, I fucking hate the 360 analog sticks. It takes too much to move them, and when you do you've moved them to far. Too much damn resistance.

HolyOrangeCows5085d ago (Edited 5085d ago )

If they want to change the shape a bit, I wouldn't mind. Oh, and change the L2/R2.

Otherwise, just keep it the same setup.

I have symmetrical hands, so no, I don't want one control stick an inch higher than the other. And I don't want a useless D-pad that never senses the correct direction. And I don't want a battery pack that comes loose and shuts off the controller ever so often.

The_Count5085d ago

I'm unhappy about losing my 9 bubbles and I'm sure many others are too. Except for the 1 bubble trolls that is. And is 3 bubbles like the max now -_-

Ah ah ah

Darrius Cole5085d ago

The reason Sony didn't change the controller for the PS3 is the that gamers demanded that the controller remain the same.

If anything Sony should move the design back towards the Dualshock 2. Microsoft changed their original Xbox controller to be more like the Dualshock 2. That is evidence that the design of the Dualshock is just fine. If anything, I wish the Dualshock 3 had Dualshock 2 styled R2 & L2 buttons instead of the trigger-buttons it has now.

P.S.

I miss my 8 bubbles as well. 3 bubbles is not enough to carry on a decent conversation. The new "reply to the reply" feature gives us a reason to use more bubbles and yet they have taken bubbles away.

Zeevious5085d ago (Edited 5085d ago )

Why punish us for the acts of others?

I was legitimately given those 9 bubbles over the course of years of comments. I had them for over a year and a half...

The site was redesigned for the users, and it was the users who gave me and everyone else our bubbles. Why make us pay for the poor quality of people abusing the system here?

We lose because the mods did not do their job, and apparently it's just easier to bump everyone down to 3, than do their job? That's a slap right in the face for the time and effort I have put into my comments here, and my time...Now Wasted.

I question whether I will bother with any other efforts after this very very lazy act by the site operators.

You don't punish your valid contributors to get at the bad ones!

I'm sure many people who legitimately contributed to this site, earned their bubbles and supported N4G would welcome the admins responsibly correcting this mistake.

. . . . .

I agree with Darrius...other than the triggers, I like the DS3 as it is.

Lich1205085d ago

I'd like more resistance in the thumbsticks. I know this will garner disagrees, but I much prefer the feel of the 360 controller for shooters. The dpad is way better on the ps3's controller though. Also, the buttons feel better.

Government Cheese5085d ago

Personally I think they should. Well, maybe just make it slightly larger, about the same size as the 360's controller. I have really long fingers, and I really have a hard time playing on a PS3/PS2 controller for more than a few hours at a time because my hands start hurting. I don't get this problem with the 360 controller.

Anon73495085d ago

Normally I agree with you, but this time you're just being ignorant.

I doubt you've ever held a boomerang controller so maybe you should just shut your face. In no way does it "Slide out of your hands."

It's probably the best controller design ever, it had a perfect dpad, analog sticks, buttons, design, ect

The design makes it easy to rest both finger easily on both R1/L1 and R2/L2 which was one of the biggest disadvantages of the DS3.

shadow27975085d ago (Edited 5085d ago )

Keep the triggers, make them concave (like those add on things they have now). The triggers are great for racing games, I just dislike the way they curve.

Put a light behind the PS button, just because it would look awesome.
Put more resistance and durability into the analogue sticks.
Give us Eight possible connections instead of Seven (For Move 2, mostly).
Improve force feedback strength.
Sell at a cheaper price :)

Anon19745085d ago

I came across someone once that claimed he was part of a testing group for the boomerang PS3 controllers and he said they were excellent. He particularly liked the rumble features. From what he told me there were multiple rumble motors throughout the boomerang controller, and depending on what was happening the rumble gave almost a 3d effect through your hands. Getting shot from behind? You could tell by the way the controller was rumbling.

That's what I heard anyway. Personally, I'm a fan of the dual shock. Didn't care for the original controllers that shipped with the PS3 - they just felt too light - but once the lawsuit was settled and Sony could put out the rumble controller again, I have to say - feeling the heft of the controller in my hand and feeling the familiar rumble was like coming home.

TheRealWar5085d ago

Are you serious?, i just tested the PS3 and Xbox 360 controller after reading your comment and they are basically the same.Either your xbox 360 controller is broken or you are a very weak person.

Hellas135085d ago

The new L2 R2 are great for driving games

fenix13005084d ago

its not about being strong or weak its about precision. there was an article around the time the pS3 launched that measured the dead zones of each controller and the dead zone of the 360 was much larger than that of the ps3, meaning that you can get better aiming on the PS3. I don't think its possible to be weak enough to not be able to move a joystick LOL

dabri55084d ago

I would love for them to change the position and tension of the analog sticks. I guess my thumbs are big because I cant press the start or select button without moving the analog sticks out of the way. The analog sticks also feel kinda loose, thus greater tension. The L2 and R2 triggers are a nice addition with the DS3 however my fingers tend to want to slide off when they are fully pressed. Maybe a curve to them would help. Other than those things, the overall design is classic and has staid the same because it works. I like the horned grip and the 4 button, 4 shoulder placement. Just some little adjustments like what we've seen in the past would be nice.

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SeanRL5085d ago

Same with youtube lol. But yeah the current controller works fine. Maybe a couple additions, but an entirely new controller would be kinda stupid.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5085d ago (Edited 5085d ago )

I've heard this is the new PS Controller, probably will be at E3 Sony Conference:

http://www.hamovhotov.com/f...

Downtown boogey5085d ago

"I've heard this is the new PS Controller, probably will be at E3 Sony Conference"

PlayStation Move? Yeah, I think we've all heard about it... Wait, what's this?..

Trey_4_life5085d ago

Lmao why would they change the perfected design of the playstation dualshock 3?

Have you tried playing street fighter or tekken with other consoles controllers? turns into a noob-fest 101.

dabri55084d ago

I would think both controllers have perfectly capable analog stick designs (pretty similar), so I would assume your comment mainly deals with the d-pad, which in a lot of fighter gamers opinions is the noob-fest way of playing....

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Mo0eY5085d ago

The only thing I'd fix is the sensitivity on the L2/R2 buttons. Sometimes when I run to pee, I put the controller down, and in games like BFBC2 and Uncharted 2, I accidentally throw a grenade killing myself.

Other than that and a larger battery, the controller is fine. Miles better than the clunky, non-responsive 360 controller.

toaster5085d ago

I didn't know I could pause the game in multiplayer?!! I should try that next time.

animboo5085d ago

Hahahahaha..that made me laugh..

Mr Logic5085d ago

You can't so called "pause" a game in multiplayer, but usually pushing the start button will bring up some kind of menu that will prevent any triggers from being pressed.

kneon5085d ago

I'd like a rubberized texture on the body of the controller. I think that's it.

Epicor5085d ago

Buy gioteck real triggers for your Dualshock3. They really do work, trust me. I purchased those and never looked back. No more accidential R2/L2 pressing as you put the controller down. And they are concave so no more slippery triggers.

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Anarki5085d ago

The control is fine! The only problem is the really sensitive back buttons(L2/R2) which tend to do shit when I just gently tap them i.e fast forwarding in movies

duplissi5085d ago

then get the bluetooth remote, its much better for watching stuff

captain-obvious5085d ago

i think the dual shock is great as it is
just keep it as it as and name it dual shock 4

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zootang5085d ago (Edited 5085d ago )

wrong reply

zootang5085d ago (Edited 5085d ago )

@LaChance Below

http://www.renchi.com/rench...

A 360 controller on a PS3 for $19.99

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ChozenWoan5085d ago

It has two extra buttons on top that would be perfect for fighting games and it would allow developers more options for player control.

This is what the DS4 should be like.

Simon_Brezhnev5085d ago

not sure why you got disagrees but i agree with you i wouldnt mind the 2 face buttons den i wont have to worry about buying some cheap madcatz controller like i did for SF4.

ChozenWoan5085d ago

I've used one for the Emulators on my PC and it's great.

Now that I think about it, I need to try to see if it will work with my PS3. ;)

Sitdown5085d ago

so in your opinion, the DualShock is the perfect controller?

winlonghorn5085d ago

You cannot get any innovation if companies never try to change what works. If that were true, we could say, "Why ever have a PS4? PS3 works just fine!" ;)

xabmol5085d ago (Edited 5085d ago )

The controller is extremely comfortable in the human hand. What more is there to ask of a perfectly functional game pad? You can't do mutch more than pressure sensitive buttons and anog sticks. And as far as those go, Sony is the leader. From the widened analog movement for increased precision to the best Dpad on the market.

You can't take the game pad any further. 3D motion controls are the next step.

dtalon35085d ago

really? perfect eh? tell that to my thumbs when they clash together from the sticks being too close together. What pressure sensitive mumbo jumbo are you talking about? no one likes the damn pressure sensitive crap, even most people who DO like the controller complain about those stupid pressure sensitive "triggers" if you can call that a trigger. Ergonomic huh? the controller doesn't even feel like it should be something in your hand. Sony has the worst controller IMO (bring on the disagrees fanboys).

I will give one feature to the ps3...D-pad, sony wins that battle hands down.

baker_boi5085d ago

Dude, c'mon...Your thumbs crash together on the analog sticks? You must have some EXTREMELY long thumbs or Extremely big hands. Either way that sucks for you lol.

Why the hell would you be pressing the analog sticks towards each other anyway? I don't know a game that has you do that. And in most games you only usin one stick anyway.

So I think you just trollin or tryna show your fanboy draws.

And pressure sensitivity has been added in EVERY controller to date after the DS2 added it in. So who loves it? I guess everybody. Try playin any racing game, or any game where you have to drive some mobile and tell me pressure sensitivity aint the business.

The back "triggers", which I think shouldn't be triggers at all(Bring back my back border SONY)aren't sensitive because a "pressure" feature, they're just fricken hanging out there. They're like hair pins. Folly of the design. It was perfect the way it was with the DS1 and DS2.

And of course it has a nice D-Pad.

But anyway dtalon your logic kinda stinks. You don't redesign something unless it's broken or doesn't work. Which is why MS redisgn they're big bricks, and Nintendo just did redesigns just to be doing it. And all of em have sucked except the Class PRO(PRO = Playstation Rip Off).

MS, Idea was also to get their controller as close to the DS design without being sued. So they used Nintendo's button scheme and SONY's layout, switch the D-Pad with one Analog stick.

Meanwhile, SONY has only changed their original design by adding two analog sticks in the middle and ripping out the wired cord.

Besides that, yall 360 owners the ones who laughed the "Boomerang" out of the house. What the hell would you want a redesign for? It's not like you'd use it anyway. Jeez.

dtalon35085d ago

Don't want to burst your bubble but I do own a Ps3 as well as a 360 and the craptastic wii. I enjoy my 360 and my ps3 for what I use them for. that is neither here nor there.

I was simply commenting on how much I dislike the playstation design with their controller although lets be truly fair here the award for worst may have to go to the gamecube.

I should correct myself though, there is nothing wrong with the pressure sensitive buttons just sony's R2/L2 bu...whatever they are.
If all M$ did was redesign the dual shock without copyright infringement well then mission accomplished because that thing fits like a glove.

to be fair also you may have a point about my big hands because I kinda enjoyed the "BOAT" controller from the original xbox...though the redesign for the 360 feels much better all around to me.

"Dude, c'mon...Your thumbs crash together on the analog sticks?"

----->yes, playing shooters only though. not with other conventional games.

mushroomwig5085d ago

Indeed it is.

@Winlonghorn, we're talking about the controller, not the system itself. There is a big difference.

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Killjoy30005085d ago

I don't think a redesign is necessary, more of just some refinements and nice looking facelift.

joemayo765085d ago

but i'm thinking they should change the appearance of the face buttons (circle, X, square , triangle, d-pad) to appear more like sixaxis "boomerang" buttons as altho the controller design looked odd the buttons looked really sleek with that "bubble-like" appearance

duplissi5085d ago

yeah, just make it a little more ergonomic (maybe fill out the handles a bit like the 360 pad), i wouldnt mind if the sticks were concave, and i know it doesnt bother me but some would like a curve to the l2/r2, but other than those keep the layout the exact same.

K-Tuck5085d ago

That would be fine, except for the boomerang controller had angled buttons and an angled D-pad. I can say for sure that when up on the controller isn't precisely up, it leads to nothing but frustration.

If Sony had kept it that way, I would have been very upset.

ShadowRyuX5085d ago

Sony should have a DualShock 4 that would come with the PS4 and would closely resemble the DS3, except it could probably be a little bigger and have triggers identical to the 360's controller.
Then they could have the DS4S or DualShock 4 Shooter. This would would much more closely resemble the 360 controller, but still have a bit of DS flavor.

That would be what I'd like anyways, because when I play God of War or 3D Dot Game Heroes I couldn't picture using the 360 controller, but when I play KZ2 I can't help but think how much more comfortable the 360 controller would be.

Raf1k15085d ago

I prefer the symmetrical layout of the DS3. It feels more natural compared to the 360s IMO what with symmetry being such an integral part of nature.

Anyway, being able to use the DS3 with the PS4 would be great.

kaveti66165085d ago

For some reason I prefer the asymmetrical nature of the analogs on the 360. It just feels more ergonomic.

JL5085d ago

I'm with you Raf. For some reason, when I've played my friend's xbox before, I can NOT get past that asymmetry of the controller. I absolutely need that symmetry that the playstation controller provides. That 360 controller just feels....unnatural (like you said.

Also, I do NOT want them to make the playstation controller bigger like the 360 controller. The 360 controller is just too bulky for me. Maybe I have small hands or something, but the 360 controller just doesn't feel "comfortable" to me due to it's bulkiness.

To me, in overall design of the Playstation controller is fairly perfect. There should be some tweaks here and there though in details. They could change those "triggers" maybe something closer to back what the DS2 was like. Concave like the 360 would be nice. Though I'm not sure I'd like the same position as the 360 has, they just don't feel right to me there (or course that could also be due to the bulkiness of the controller throwing the positioning of the triggers a bit off in my hands).

All in all though they should do like they've always done: keep the same controller, just make a few tweaks here and there.

user8586215085d ago

@zootang

more like nintendo create, sony perfect xD

IrishAssa5085d ago

Steel the 360's triggers and it just might be the greatest controller ever

BrianC62345085d ago

I agree. Sony's controller is great. Don't mess with it. Of course Microsoft had to redesign their controller. The Xbox controller was terrible. I haven't used the 360 controller but I doubt it's better than the PS3's controller. Leave what works alone. The only reason to mess with it would be if the PS4 has a system like Natal where you don't need a controller. I find it hard to believe a console in the next ten years will be good enough to completely dump the old controllers.

Elimin85085d ago

Don't fix it if it isn't broken. I would say the only alteration needed is to make it a bit bigger. not too big but people like me who got big hands get serious cramps playing with the current DS...

mindedone5085d ago

the size. I don't think anyone wants a huge revision, just mold improvements. The 3rd party controllers fix this problwm, but screw up everything else. The duel shock it just too well crafted in almost every other sense

mantisimo5085d ago

I totally agree but I think there should be 3 sizes, one for kids a little smaller than the present one (watching my little dude play by using the ball of his thumb on the left anologue stick makes me laugh) keep the present size for everyone happy with it now and a large one for dudes like us with big hands. But please don't change the layout or make it dil*o shaped.

JL5085d ago

@mantismo
That's actually a brilliant idea. Sizes. Cause I for one love the size of the playstation controller as it is (and the ergonomics and everything). Of course I do have smaller hands, so I can at least understand people with bigger hands wanting a bigger controller. Selling multiple sizes would be absolutely brilliant. Though it would be interesting going in to buy a PS4 at the store and the clerk has to ask your size lol or you can't get it cause they don't have your size in. I do like that idea though cause I don't want the size of the controller changed.

DigitalHorror815085d ago

Change the R2 L2 buttons into triggers like the ones you can clip on. Change nothing else.

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Downtown boogey5085d ago

Move, anyone?
That's the next thing right there!

secksi-killer5085d ago

the dualshock is good for footie and fighting games. but for shooting, driving and action games, i personally think that the 360 is better.

Darkstorn5085d ago

I think the PS3 controller needs concave L2/R2 buttons to more closely resemble triggers.

The only other thing I can think of is to make it possible to switch the D-pad and left thumbstick on the fly, like a click-out, click-in sort of deal. More customization options are always the right way to go.

f7897905085d ago

Like this gen they made the R2 and L2 buttons squeeze in differently. Now all they need to do is make them curve outward so there's no finger slipping.

Comet5085d ago

That boomerang controller "prototype" was a PLAYSTATION ONE controller!

I have one that looks exactly like it.. except it's PS1 only, wired, and doesn't have 2 analog sticks...!!! Oh, and it's hideous.

Legosz5085d ago

I said nothing about resistance of anaologs. I mean they should curve them so our thumbs stay on better.

BattleAxe5085d ago

Hell no, do not do anything to the PS controller!!! Its been the best controller for the past 15 years.

Raf1k15085d ago (Edited 5085d ago )

After having used a 360 controller for my PC I loved it and then used a DS3 when I got a PS3. I have to admit the 360 controller is great and the ergonomic design is just the best but the DS3s button layout can't be beaten for all round gaming. I also like the fact that I can have a finger resting over L1, L2, R1 and R2 whereas with the 360 controller that's hard to do and not very comfortable.

The only thing I think they need to improve is the shape of the controller to make it more ergonomic and change the material used for the R2 and L2 buttons as fingers do slip a bit. Oh yeh, bundle trigger attachments with each controller.

edit: I think the D-Pad could also be improved as it's much better than the 360 but still not good enough for me to want to use when playing a fighting game.

edit2: A friend of mine was telling me that Sony had once tried inverted analogue sticks and also mentioned that the American market didn't like them.

Theonik5085d ago

Only thing i would like with DS4 is triggers similar to the Gamecube.
Also yeah i hate it now that you can't get more than 3 bubbles. All that wor gone now >.>

ReservoirDog3165085d ago

I kinda like the DS3 design. Been working perfectly for me for what like 10 years? I hope they don't.

silvacrest5085d ago

i couldn't agree more

the new bubble system....just sucks and the dualshock 3 is fine as his, what really needs a redesign is the 360s D pad

mastiffchild5085d ago

God, I hope they don't change it! If they DO then, at least, allow a DS4 as well as any new controller. People are so used to the design that, as in my case, other controllers just don;'t feel as comfy or natural to use. I often put my problems with the 360 pad down to the fact it's not symmetrical and feel it could be laid out in a way that suits right handed gamers but realise that a lot of people really love the design too.

A bit of choice won't hurt though and as long as they don't shut the door on the Dualshock design it's all good-the new one could prove just as good, better even , and more long lasting. Who knows, but again, choice would be great.

likedamaster5085d ago

Everyone seems to be in agreement that the L/R buttons and triggers need to go. Here's to hoping they do just that.

IdleLeeSiuLung5085d ago (Edited 5085d ago )

This comes down to 99% preference!

The only thing I would add is, the PS3 controller needs their triggers fixed as my fingers keep sliding down it accidentally pressing it and more ergonomically designed. My hands tend to cramp more on the PS3 controller.

The former can somewhat be fixed with RealTriggers though.

SaberEdge5085d ago

I think the DS3 is great. I do think, however, that there might be some ergonomic improvements that could be made, and I think the L2 and R2 could be improved as well. The analogue sticks feel great to me and I actually prefer their convex design over the concave of other controllers. The buttons all feel great as well. So, improve the "triggers" and the overall ergonomic design and I think it will be even better.

Commander TK5084d ago

no, don't do it. It would make a lot of gamers upset. Although I think the arms should be longer, it have a nice bench at the back, give the triggers a little curve (whatever the heck it's called) so that your fingers won't slide off of it and maybe make something that would put an analog stick where the d-pad is, kinda like the Atari 7200. When I hold the PS3 controller, it feels that I'm balancing it and it also feels that my hand is gonna get destroyed. That's just me, maybe because I play plenty of shooters?

If SCE would do that, I think a lot more Xbox owners would switch to Playstaion. For those of you who want a PS3 controller with the same layout as the 360 one, I'd recommend the Shadow controller, it's great!

Heisenberg5084d ago

Yeah just the triggers, maybe make the handles slightly longer, but not a redesign, there's no call for one.

Bubble Buddy5084d ago

As everyone says, the only flaw in the DS3 is the L2 and R2 buttons.

Steve_05084d ago

I think the dualshock is pretty perfect, maybe tweak the shape, the triggers and the resistance of the analogue sticks. Then again, I thought the SNES controller was the height of technological achievement back in the day... a d pad, 4 face buttons! AND shoulder buttons! with smooth curves so much better than the boxy NES pad that cut into palms... to be young again...

SPACEBALL 15084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

the ps3 controller is basically fine. i just wish it was a little bigger or maybe a different shape. the other day my hands and knuckles were aching while i was playing uncharted.

Kurt Russell5084d ago

PS3 controller is too small for my hands. Xbox one sits nicer out of the two. 360 for shooting PS3 for Racing/Sports sims.

avengers19785084d ago

First let me say there will not be a PS4 for awhile; both Nintendo, and Xbox will have new systems before sony. Now the controller hasn't changed since they came out with a playstation, and really It's perfect it fits comfortably in hand, and all the buttons are nice and easy to hit. I've owned Playstation products since the very first day, and I would hate if they changed the controller.

amigaman5084d ago

I do agree with the article, some improvements are needed to the controller. I do believe that the analog stick should be made concave. This would improve grip while playing dual analog games, in my case, when I play Super Stardust HD for a while, my fingers slip and I need to readjust. Also, they need to do something to prevent hand cramping, and I know that most of us got cramps in our hand using the controller. Everything else seems right for me.

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mrv3215085d ago

No, I haven't found my PS3 controller to be a problem. It's a reason why it's stayed the same for this long, because it works.

striped945085d ago

I definitely agree. I don't think the layout could get any better.

mrv3215085d ago (Edited 5085d ago )

It could get better, ever controller can. But for the foreseeable future I don't think Sony could do much.

You could a PSone ONLY player a PS3 dualshock 3 and they'll know what to do. The R2/L2 can be modified I suppose but that's not really a redesign now.

I prefer the convex analogue stick by far I must say, I also prefer the layout with it almost being a mirror image on both sides.

I think the PS3 controller is best controller on the market, with rechargable batteries and all that built it. Sure some might prefer the 360 on for FPS but even then the PS3 may only be lacking SLIGHTLY behind... while if it's a fighter the PS3 one is superior by a noticeable amount.

Build in the PSeye noise cancelling MIC into the controller and add some buttons to control it like the headset, that would be great and fairly easy. It'd add weight but most of all MICS! It'd be a great project. Imagine on the base of the controller you have 2 mics (for noise cancelling) and on the top, left to the USB you have a mute button and a mic sensitivity up an down button.

Steve_05084d ago

I have to say, theres something in that idea of integrating mics... but I think bundled headsets are the way to go, no mechanical moving parts (remember them controllers be vibrating! you dont wanna have a small buzz in the background of all your games do you?), and you also get the benefit of a speaker in your ear. Have team radio on the headset and dedicate environmentals and music to the surround sound.

ELite_Ghost5085d ago

just have a glowing PS button and it'll be perfect :D

xYLeinen5085d ago

Don't even try to change the controller Sony.

ELite_Ghost5085d ago

u know about the triggers add on thing for the DS3??
They should have that they feel really nice

JonnyBigBoss5085d ago

No. My Father always used to say if it isn't broken don't fix it. The DS2/DS3 controllers are still the best controllers I've ever used.

Downtown boogey5085d ago

How about... "Improving" or "evolving"? What did your father say about those kinds of maneuvers?

Official General5085d ago (Edited 5085d ago )

I totally agree, do not fix what is not broken. Too many times people don't understand this and they ruin things in the end. I think the PS2 and PS3 controller is near perfect, it works totally fine, there is no need to change anything.

hennessey865084d ago

i have big hands and the ps3 controler is uncomfortable for me to hold for long periods of time the 360 control feels more natural to hold they need to make the ps3 control slightly bigger and change the layout of the analogue sticks and improve the triggers it already has the best d pad

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ChasterMies13d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken13d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga13d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken13d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6413d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long13d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197212d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic12d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12513d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91313d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer13d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91312d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit12d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher13d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6912d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit12d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher13d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken13d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197212d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic12d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2313d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218313d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder13d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts13d ago

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades19d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken19d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades19d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii19d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit21d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos20d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9520d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia20d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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