I Am A Satanic Occultist;This Industry Is Full Of Hate & Propaganda Against My Religon

www.games4m.com repond to the article "I Am A Christian; This Industry Don't Give A Crap About Me"

My name is Rob Bateman and yes, I'm a full-on demon worshipping satanic cult member, and I also happen to be one of the founding members of www.games4m.com. It's no secret that I love, and appreciate the art form that is video games. But something is definitely wrong with the direction the industry is carelessly racing in without anyone stopping to ponder how this might be affecting those of us within certain religous minorities and how we might be offended by what we see in video games every day.

Lets start with the game that set the downward trend into religous intolerance - Doom...

[xTruthx]

wtf......

[CARRIERHASARRIVED]

"Be nice to the bad guys" is all I really gathered from this.

[DannyVenom]

Here we go again, why are we getting labeled as 'the bad guys'? There is a serious issue of double standards here.

[Tony P]

I admit. I laughed.

Funny parodies are funny.

[Timesplitter14]

Suddenly, out of nowhere, a good article on N4G.

I just hope you guys understood what the author was trying to say. It's a perfect response to the christian article.

[Rocket Sauce]

I dunno, Christians have got it rough...

[Mista T]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Therealspy03]

not sure who would disagree with you, Timesplitter. maybe they didn't get that this is a response article despite the very first sentence.

[HolyOrangeCows]

"Why are we always the bad guys" below the zombies is hilarious.

If the other article was "I think there should be the option to censor language and nudity in games" instead of "I'm a christian, thus I think there should be the option to censor language and nudity in games", the article would have hit MAYBE 200 degrees and THIS article never would have existed.

[Cerebellum]

Sarcasm aside, I want my 3 minutes back after reading this pure sh!t article. And to the idiot one or two above me, Christianity is under persecution and has been increasingly so, anyone who studies the Holy Bible and reads the book of Revelations can see that this is all expected, which is why us Christians aren't surprised by what we see or the harassment we experience.

[Darkfocus]

I would have laughed even harder if they were serious.

[Government Cheese]

Oh I get it, this is a response to the I am a Christian gamer thingy.

[sikbeta]

Satanic? really? wow, you must feel a Real Man by being "satanic", right?

Whatever-Religion and satan-whatever got nothing to do with gaming, so, what's the point?

Lets just lave it at that, funny or not, people can feel offended by this article

[ExgamerLegends2]

http://AnswersinGenesis.org...

For all not afraid to read it...

[Obama]

"Christianity is under persecution"

Well I am sure stopping priests from molesting little boys would solve the problem.

[vickers500]

@Cerebellum

(my reaction to your comment) http://www.youtube.com/watc...

But seriously, how do you think you are being harassed? Do you consider people making fun of religion on the internet persecution? You must have a very low tolerance for what you consider persecution. You want to compare your persecution to an atheist/agnostic? Ok. Are you constantly told that when you die, you will suffer and be tortured by all eternity while burning? No? Well how about having your kid (or you whenever you were young) being denied entrance into the scouts because of your beliefs?

No? Okay, well how about having your car windows smashed or tires slashed because you had an emblem proclaiming your belief that you felt proud to advertise? No? Hmmm, well how exactly have you been persecuted other than people making fun of your beliefs on the internet?

[HolyOrangeCows]

Has there never been a doctor that committed murder?

[00]

that sounds like indoctrination to me, and believe you me I would know a thing or two about indoctrination.

[Tachyon_Nova]

What are you talking about Obama, priests don't molest boys, they cure them of their sexual energy using the hand of God.

Sikbeta obviously didn't understand that the article was a joke, oh well, there are always some people who don't grasp sarcasm and ridicule, even in their most basic and obvious forms. One last thing Sikbeta, if you or anyone else religious is offended by that article, then they need to harden up. I simply can't comprehend how religous people can be offended by such simple things, but not bat an eyelid at the things written as commands from the almighty in the Bible, Koran, etc, which truly are horrific. Religion in all forms, quite frankly, is an offence to common sense, morality, the truth, and those who value world peace.

@ 1.15 - Exactly, religious people always moan and complain about being persecuted, they wouldn't know what the word meant if you printed it on their holy book and smacked them in the face with it, even though they dish it out daily, by abusing people who have different beliefs, or even those that don't follow theirs to the letter, and trying to scare and harrass people into 'fearing' a God who is apparently so loving.

Thankfully I don't live in America, because from what I hear of it, there are so many nutty, murderous, and just outright discusting religious people over there. Even so, it's not all smooth sailing over here in Australia either.

[Obama]

"Exactly, religious people always moan and complain about being persecuted"

Kinda ironic right, when Christians have been prosecuting people through out the roman era/middle ages/today.

[TheDeadMetalhead]

I don't know what's funnier: the article itself of the people on here taking it seriously. XD

[Nicaragua]

Some of the reactions on here are a lot funnier than the article itself.

[MmaFanQc]

Great article, i did a facepalm when i saw the "i am a christian...bla bla bla emo ray hit me"

[ExgamerLegends2]

Hm, I expected as much though. In todays society, asking for moral consideration is asking to be attacked by athiests. And the only arguments they seem to be able to produce are "Bu bu bu teh crusades", "Bu bu bu persecution" or "Bu bu bu you cant force your morals on me. (showing their lack of understanding about what the crusades were about, lack of knowledge about anti christian persecution and showing how illogical and inconsistent athiesm is) One can only hope these ppl will never hold high power in society.

[Nicaragua]

He's a satanist, not an atheist - and your showing your lack of understanding by not acknowleding his religon and simply branding him an atheist. The author believes in a god, it just happens to be the god of the fiery underworld.

And before you start preaching about people coming into power you should cast your mind back to the the bible bashing prat that was George W Bush - look what his wholesome Christian values did for America.

[ExgamerLegends2]

"He's a satanist, not an atheist"

I wasnt referring to the author. And I wasnt talking to you. That comment was directed at 00. Because your comment was misguided i'll choose not to fully address it, but i will warn you to pay attention to the context of a discussion before jumping head first into it. And read the Bible.

[Raz]

Why is a skull wearing another skull as a pendant in that picture? I mean, it seems kind of redundant, doesn't it? Why would a dead guy wear another dead guy as a fashion accessory?

Now, if he was wearing the baby's head from the old PS3 commercial, THAT would creep me right the f*ck out - and it would actually make some kind of sense.

[Viper7]

//ExgamerLegends2
Hm, I expected as much though. In todays society, asking for moral consideration is asking to be attacked by athiests. And the only arguments they seem to be able to produce are "Bu bu bu teh crusades", "Bu bu bu persecution" or "Bu bu bu you cant force your morals on me. (showing their lack of understanding about what the crusades were about, lack of knowledge about anti christian persecution and showing how illogical and inconsistent athiesm is) One can only hope these ppl will never hold high power in society.//

As Apatheist I can say that the arguments made by theists and atheist are mostly poor fallacies with no actual facts backing up anything.

Atheist commonly use:
"there's no proof so it doesn't exist!"
Theist commonly use:
"Because we can't explain it it must be done by god!"

Both are close minded arguments which can also be considered as fallacy. Ignoring millions of other possibility. But in the end if some1 want's to believe in fairies and faith brings him joy, why should we judge him/her? However using god or religion in argument or in rational discussions is one thing I can't simply stand.

Imo Religion should be taken as far away from science, laws and governmental choices as possible. It should be kept on the level of a "hobby" or interest.

[Tachyon_Nova]

@ 1.27 - You don't understand what you are talking about. Atheists don't say "there's no proof so it doesn't exist!", we say there is no evidence for gods existence, so we choose, as seems only logical to me, not to believe in a 'god', especially given that there is mountains and mountains of evidence supporting other theories of how the universe, and more recently, life, began.

Let me put it to you this way. I read this example in a book from Richard Dawkins, I'm not sure if he came up with it himself, I can't remember. In any case, he asks, if it is the commonly held belief that there is a teapot orbiting the Earth, that is too small for us to detect, would you believe it blindly? Hopefully, you wouldn't.

"But in the end if some1 want's to believe in fairies and faith brings him joy, why should we judge him/her?" - Um sorry, but you just judged both athesists and theists, calling them close minded. You see an inconsistency here? And in any case, if all that people did believe in are 'fairies' and the likes, then there would be no problem. But when you have millions of people in the Muslim world who actually believe they will go to heaven with more virgins than anyone could possibly need for killing unbelievers, then we have a pretty big problem on our hands, don't you think. Or are you so close minded that you think these people aren't actually doing what their religion tells them to do?

On a side note, aside from religious people, who are obviously closed minded, agnostics are also closed minded, for believing that there is an even chance that god does and doesn't exist. Sure, we can't prove that god doesn't exist, after all, how do you prove that something that doesn't exist? But we can look at the evidence and make an informed decision as to whether a god does or doesn't existm and currently, the evidence is stacked 100% in favour of atheists.

[ExgamerLegends2]

Thank you for proving my point.

Apatheists are no different than Atheists. Surely if you do not care whether there is a God or not you wouldnt be here on this thread. The case for Theism isnt "we cant explain it so it must be god." In a nutshell it's more like, "it cant happen naturally so it must happen supernaturally. And this is based off studies we can explain.

Theism is the only logical belief because there is a basis for morality. An atheist has no basis for morality or logic. Some might argue a God is not needed for morality or logic but that would be like arguing that there is no air. The fact that you can even form words to make your argument proves that there IS air.

[Nicaragua]

"Theism is the only logical belief because there is a basis for morality. An atheist has no basis for morality or logic"

You have got to be kidding me ! People dont need religon to tell them what is moraly right or wrong - its called decency and common sense.

If you only do things that you think are right because you think God is watching you and will punish or reward you then thats not being morale at all - its simply sucking up to your deity of choice.

Secondly there have been horrific atrocities commited in the name of all the major religons whereas there has never been any similar act commited in the name of atheism. Religon is only good at being "morale" within its own religon.

[ExgamerLegends2]

If there is no God then man is the highest power, meaning that man decides right and wrong for ourselves. Whats right for you isnt right for everyone so you cant say that anything is wrong (including rape, murder, or theft.) You bash religion for mass murder? I ask you to tell me why murder is wrong. And atheists are responsble for Columbine.
http://AnswersinGenesis.org...

[n4f]

''Secondly there have been horrific atrocities commited in the name of all the major religons whereas there has never been any similar act commited in the name of atheism.''
like what slavery?, white man when to america to be accept by Amerindian than being prosecuted by them. white man killed them than makes them slave but they were not strong enough so they started dying.
what are saying it religion that cause them to do that? thats a lame excuse

later black people being slave. again are you saying religion make you do that?

WWI, WWII, gulf war and all that religion again?

Hiroshima bombing is religion too?

genocide in africa was religion too

Hitler kill jew, religion too? even if he was worshiping the occult?

are you people really being serious about blaming religion for every major thing ?

[Rom828]

What a joke!

[DaTruth]

Number one Atheist argument: I am a nerd and have never gotten laid. This sucks, there is no God!!!

[Scotracer]

You MUST be joking by linking to AnswersinGenesis...it's one of the most ridiculous apologetics websites out there.

You claim: "it cant happen naturally so it must happen supernaturally. And this is based off studies we can explain."

Name ONE, JUST ONE verified instance of the supernatural being a legitimate explanation for anything. The problem with supernatural explanations is that they AREN'T EXPLANATIONS - they are appeals to ignorance in their simplest form. Just look at the history of science: First we had various gods being the "explanation" for the structure of our planet...then we developed proper geology, gravity and thermodynamics to explain how our planet formed. Then we had the "explanation" of life being magically (AND YES IT IS MAGIC) 'created'...then we discovered modern biology with evolutionary theory. There goes ANOTHER magic explanation. Just about every "supernatural" cause ever posited has been disproved and the rest will, pretty much guaranteed, follow suit in the future.

Supernatural causes only highlight the ignorance of humanity and an unwillingness to actually LEARN.

[FragMnTagM]

Care to explain to me and my wife why we have two kids together? From a very young age I knew religion was bullsh!t. I have been without religion for many years now.

@ExGamerLegend: It is really funny to see people preaching about not having any morals as an atheist. Over the years I have seen many churchgoing people go in and out of jail, take hard drugs, and do all kinds of atrocious things that religious people should not be doing. But they think it is ok because they repent on Sundays.

I on the other hand have not done any of those things, yet I am an atheist. Care to explain how? Society as a whole determines morality, not some silly sky fairy.

[ExgamerLegends2]

@Scot

I noticed that instead of answering the article, you bash it. A common atheist defense mechanism. Science has confirmed God's hand in the creation of the world as seen by the amazing complexity, design and order in the universe that can only be the product of a brilliant mind, not random chance. Evolution theorists have not once made life in a lab after 150 years. Thats because its not possible. I dont know where your info comes from but i suggest you open a science book. And the Bible.

@Frag

I never said atheists dont have morals. I said they dont have a basis for morals. You can yap all day about killing is wrong but you cant tell me why. You have no reason to say anything is morally wrong. Atheists have no way to determine such things as Christians do. The fact that there are morals proves God. Go to the link I posted for better explanation.

[White-Sharingan]

@ExgamerLegends2 -

Fanatics like you give me such a laugh, you preach on how God is real like if everyone should believe that bullcrap. You know why religion was born and why your religious? because people are scared as to what will happen after they die, they can't accept the fact that maybe you'll die and thats it, nothing else happens. Religion just finds a way for us to be immortal, out of fear.

About the air comment, we know air does exist wtf, we have experimented and seen how atoms behave. Just face it, the bible was created by man, ot by god.

YEs you are right, what I believe whats right can be different from what you believe, but thats what laws are for. While your growing up, you get taught about laws, and with that you are shown what is right and wrong in that specific country. You may say that's putting beliefs in people's mind, but that's how christians do it as well, putting the ten commandments in little kid's mind.

Fact is, christians put everything they cannot understand in a "god pile", kinda sad actually, so many brilliant minds who could discover those mysteries, wasted.

[MEsoJD]

both are the same to me. Willing to shove their B.S. down your throat.

I died before. The truth is when you die you are greeted by the all knowing Unicorn KOZON. He had a beard and was white with greenish tint if you look real close. Anyway he told me the true about the universe. That all religions were wrong and we were just suppose to live life for the hell of it. We watched t.v. on his couch drinking some blue moons. We banged some chicks, got high, etc... God good times. Anyway he said that everyone had their own special Unicorn and it wasn't my time to go.

[strongbad1441]

Seriously dude, just calm down. Whether someone is Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish, Agnostic, Atheist, or any other religion, they don't use this forum to spread or, in your case, force their beliefs on other people. It's News For Gamers, not News For Evangelists. Sure, Atheists may be responsible for Columbine, but radical Muslims were responsible for 9/11. Your logic is equivalent to saying that because one Priest has molested a child, then all child molestations are the fault of Priests. That's not how it works.

@n4f
He never said that all bad things were due to religion. Though how you determined that Hitler's genocide of Jewish people wasn't religiously tied, I'll never understand. Believe it or not, much violence has come in this world from religious intolerance.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

@Exgamerlegends

I have never seen such a close-minded individual such as yourself. If you really want to provide arguments and facts, stop quoting a religious site that is going to support you in your arguments. That would be like me finding a bunch of Atheists and asking them to support me in disproving God. It doesn't work like that.

So please kindly take your fail and gtfo.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

@White

Do you want to know why ppl reject God? Its because they know they'll be judged and prolly wont like the outcome. See how easy it is to just pull a theory out yer butt? Like I said before, you have no basis for your belief. And I know we know there is air. You misinterpreted the purpose of the analogy. And about your "laws" statement. How do you determine what are good laws and bad laws. As I said, atheists have no basis for things like that. If you can tell me why something is bad then Atheism is logical, but you cant.

@Strong

Religion is the topic of this thread. If you dont to discuss it you may leave. And you misunderstand the Columbine statement. Nic said that atheists have never committed mass murder. I was simply proving him wrong. I didnt say that makes all atheists evil. Fact is weve all fallen short of God's glory. And Hitler was motivated by a belief that evolution made certain races inferior as well as a "redesigned Jesus theory" so to speak. The point is atheism is illogical because.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

So what youre asking me to do is get an atheist to help me prove God???

take your fail and get out.

[benny o klaatt]

i see what you did there :)

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

@Exgamerlegend

Again, showing off your complete ignorance. Try to find some scientific sites to help you prove everything.

Something with evidence, because last time I checked, some dumbass bastrd on a primarily religious site does not truly help your arguments, it falsely supports them.

Again, either find something with real evidence, other than a site called "ANSWERSINGENESIS" (seriously can we get a little more biased sites pl0x?) or GTFO.

edit:

OH yeah and way to be completely hypocritical. You're saying atheists go around simply bashing religions, how come I see you doing the same? You're not arguing, you're not even basing your arguments on anything, you're just finding a way to flame everything in your path that doesn't agree with you.

edit2: Also explain to me how you managed to get more posts.

[xTruthx]

I really don't know wth some people in here are talking about because Christianity and the big bang theory have loopholes, so Tachyon_Nova it seems to me your one that needs to read the bible because that has a lot of facts that have happen. Both have their proofs and loops wholes, none have more than the other, thats y they have stayed strong in the society . Christians and atheist and w/e religion are not the problem, the problem are the ones who are fanatics and take it to another level. Those are the ones who ruin the image of their religion and then people label them bad because of what that fanatic did. Saw some 1 say 9/11 was cause because of the radical Muslims, yah and ? you think radical Muslims are the ones possible for all cruel acts ?
We are all human, we have are defects. Thats y it will never mater in what religion or belief you are, their will be always one person that will ruin the image of them.

edit: Below to Obama
In a way they do, in the time we live in you just have to see how fudged up the world is. You don't have to be Christians to have god morals the thing is. In Christian homes(normal ones, because some people say their Christians but they aren't) morals are teach'd by parents almost everyday, I know that because I grew up in a Christian home and I see how many people where very different than me when I was in school. We don't live in the 60's or 80's anymore where there where more decent people. We are in a time where we really need to push morals to kids. We just have to watch the news and see a kid who suicided because kids made fun or him or he didn't get the present he wanted for Christmas.

[Obama]

ExgamerLegends2, so Christians have a higher moral? Well I guess that's why moral leader the pope is shielding the pedophile priest from persecution.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

hmm i was sure telling you to get out would make you get out 0_0.

Anyway, there are a couple things wrong with your comment.
1.) AiG is an apologetics website. I cited there article about religion, not science as this is a religious discussion. If you want to discuss science you'll have to wait for the proper thread.

2.) There is no such thing as non biased.

Its a simple request really. Why is killing wrong? Isnt there 1 atheist who can answer me? No? Well if you cant of course this means you have no basis for morality. Yet you all seem to be moral. I wonder where this inate knowlege of morality comes from. As a Christian, I know :)

edit response: Are you saying atheism is a religion? *gasp*

@Obama: I'm saying Christians have a basis for morals. And I don't comment on Catholic pedophelia. I'm not Catholic i'm Christian.

[Nicaragua]

dude, your an idiot.

I didnt say that atheists have never done anything wrong. What i said is that nothing wrong has ever been done IN THE NAME of atheism. Horrific atrocitoes have committed IN THE NAME of christianity, Islam, Judaism etc but nothing of the same scale has been done for the reason that people dont believe in God.

Crusades - religon
9/11 - religon
Conflict in Ireland - religon
Conflict in Gaza Strip - religon
Holocaust - religon

Name me one conflict or atrocitie that was done in the name of not believing in a deity ?

maybe if you spent more time reading things properly before opening your mounth then you wouldnt believe in such nonsense in the first place.

"without religon good people will do good things and bad people will do bad things, but with religon good people will do bad things"

[Cock4Gamers]

Why are all of you people bashing each other's beliefs when the article isn't even being serious. OHHH SCREW GODDD OHHH FUDGE EVOLUTION! Stfu and read the article >_>

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

I thought you werent coming back lol

Anywho you did say that atheists never committed mass murder and that is a lie. I gaurantee you abortion accounts for more deaths than all that crap you listed. But you miss the point. Why do you consider the Crusades atrocious? Cuz of all the death? Why is killing in the name of God wrong? Wy is killing wrong period? These are thing s you believe are wrong yet you havent given me a reason why. This is why atheism is illogical. There is no basis for morality in atheism yet you clearly have morals. I just want you to see that morality doesnt just happen to ppl. They are born with. And thats not something that is passed down through Dna. Its God given. You cant tell me why killing is wrong because youre leaving out the 1 thing that makes knowledge of that possible.

I think you all will be glad to know I'm done here. But think about it.

[Consoldtobots]

"Christianity is under persecution"

"Well I am sure stopping priests from molesting little boys would solve the problem."

except for one little fact, the catholic never has been or ever will be Christian. It is a pagan religion that began in ancient Babylon where they used to sacrifice infants to the sun god Baal, but of course murder is illegal nowadays so they do the next best thing.

[Games4M - Rob]

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[White-Sharingan]

@ExgamerLegends- your a fool, you say we are born with morals because it is god given. That is not true, you are born with a brain that is a clean slate. As you age, you are taught the ways of that country and their beliefs, its not something your born with. If you raise a child to kill, HE WILL KILL, and that will be normal for them. If you raise a child to be good, he will be good, but of course that doesn't mean it'll be 100% effective because this world is never 100% sure.

So god has given bad morals to those muslim people who would kill themselves to kill a bunch of people so they can go to heaven? seriously?

Who decided was moral? humans did. When humans started thinking of ways of progressing the economy in their respective countries, they thought of great laws to make it progress. What would a country be if everyone were killing themselves and stealing? its pretty obvious that by more people you have, and less stealing, the more the economy progresses. Why are the ten commandments usually useless? because although I do not kill or steal, I have coveted, I don't give a rats ass about the sabbath, I don't praise any god whatsoever, etc.. and guess what? I don't feel bad about it.

PS: Im glad you feel fine knowing that europeans used to kill anyone who didn't believe in christianity, especially the indigenous people of the Americas, you must feel proud.

[bjornbear]

wrong

moral is actually scientific

morals if dissected break into small orders that work towards human survival

here's a video on it:

http://www.wimp.com/moralqu...

basically morals are logical

its inefficient for you to kill another human with no reason, because it is a risk you do not need to take

when it happens, there's usually some malfunction (psychosis, paranoid schizophrenic, etc)

this applies to everything really

marriage was devised to keep families organized and to define and control power/land/money etc...

stealing is also a high risk action, not only to you but to others
example:

you have the chance to steal $100 from your friend that's completely broke with no risk of getting caught.

morally, you don't do it because its your friend, and he is broke and needs that money

scientifically however, those two factors also make sense

if he is your friend, and you do such an action, you are inadvertently effecting his life in a negative way, and being your friend, this will have an effect on you (unless you stop seeing him, but then he isn't really your "friend" is he =P)

there's always a reason for everything we do

morals just outlined the logical steps for survival clearly so no one would have doubts

but whats the point? christianity and religion creates morals? tell that to 200 deaf kids...

"morals" (basic survival laws of a community) are inherent in man, just not all man follows them.

thats the scientific approach. if you want to take the sensationalist fantasy approach, be my guests.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

LMFAO

Did he say you are born with morals? Is he that much of an incompetent ignorant person?

You aren't born with morals, they are taught. Human children are the least able of all mammals. They aren't born with anything, we need to be taught how to eat, how to walk, how to talk, how to interact, and how to think.

And morals are something you learn from your parents and your community. Why do you think some of the crime/etc etc goes on in our world? Because the morals they were RAISED with weren't the same as the morals YOU were RAISED with.

Arguing with this person is getting us nowhere.

Edit: Oh yes, why is killing wrong? Because it's taking the life of another.

Tell me, why do you think killing is wrong Exgamerlegend? Because some invisible being came to you in your sleep when you were 2 and told you it's wrong?

Tell me, do you remember when you were 1 or 2? What were you thinking? Was some invisible guy telling you about life in your brain? Or were your parents teaching you? Explain this to me.

[xTruthx]

Yeah bjornbear , thats y the world keeps getting better & better, younger woman keep getting pregnant, more suicides and etc everyday...s/

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

Wow my comments have been full of such flames.

edit:

@Truth
Those are the people who lack morals, who obviously weren't brought up with them, who sucumbed to those people who had no morals before them and went in their direction.

If morals are taught by God, why is it that so many wrong acts are being done by church goers and religious people? Morals are taught by parents and the community, and it's up to the people who are taught to stick by those morals.

[xTruthx]

thats y i said on my other post that the fanatics are the ones ruining the image of certain religions. As I said, you don't need to be Christian to teach morals. Like I said on my other post too, we are human and we have our defects, it doesn't matter in what religion you are or what is your believe, there will always be one to make a bad image of it. BTW, Catholics aren't Christians, for some people who think they are.

[HighDefinition]

Creating conflict between any two groups is the best way to surpress growth of both groups. Not believing in a certain religion it`s self has became a religion. All of these are the tools used to separate us to keep us distracted or distanced from the beauty of life. It`s sad to watch it unfold. Look at this for instance, this site we ALL enjoy gaming. But the whole 360 vs. PS3 keeps alot of people who have similar interests distanced. Everything I said previously is just this on a larger scale. Don`t me wrong sometimes its fun to make fun of another system/lifestyle, but some people take it to another level when it should just be left as fun.

[Darkstorn]

@1.49-
Actually, the Israel-Palestinian conflict is not primarily about religion, it's an issue of human rights. Palestinians in Israel do not have the same rights as Jewish citizens of Israel, and Palestinians living in the West Bank (for example) are being pushed away from necessary waterways to make room for subsidized Israeli settlements.

This is not religious conflict, it is sickening imperialism.

[bjornbear]

watch the video.

i didn't say you are BORN with them, they are both a nature and nurture phenomenon

both factors can affect it, but you are born with the predisposition to act upon survival instincts that do coincide with morals

next time read before you go laughing in your high chair

and once again, watch the video and zip it, its from TED, if you are all about the science, then i'd expect you to know what it is.

@ the truth

this doesn't apply to everyone, and people who suicide and commit murders usually have a higher chemical unbalance in their brain than average

those things don't "just" happen because people were taught to kill themselves or taught to kill others (although that can apply, it doesn't always)

[DarkBlood]

facepalm

[mal_tez92]

It's parodying the stupid Xian article.

[Mista T]

I thought this was gonna be a destructoid article :P

[DarkBlood]

well lately with the articles going on i almost have a hard time telling if it was serious or not lol

[Dsnyder]

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[LordMarius]

oh my, did we really need this.
the 1st article wasn't worth any degrees and neither is this one.
people should really stop hanging around N4G to find ideas for lame hit attempts

[young juice]

what is your obsession with disney?

[Gue1]

He had Lady Gaga at one point too, is that character from disney too? Or you just got offended by his comment but couldn't find anything clever to say as an insult?

[young juice]

i wasnt offended. i was just wondering why he used those pics....

were YOU offended by my comment?

maybe your just trying to be smart.

[LordMarius]

off topic
off topic
off topic

they have a PM feature for a reason

[JRisburning]

I have nothing to say, but to go pray and beg for forgiveness, and hope that the good Ol' God, that I believe in, gives me another 2 minutes of my life after reading this terrible piece of "literature".

LOL :D Seriously, though.....c'mon!

[Dellis]

DEUX sequel will reveal your new world order elitist, they revealed your plans on part one, the second game will be all about your demonic religion illuminati

[Darth_Bane79]

Obviously a pun on the Christian article.. Very funny, i almost believed it was real.. LMFAO. The aphrodite part sounded interesting tho...

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

But I read the other one too so I realize this is just satire aimed at the other article.

I like it because I found the original article to be stupid too.

[anonymouse111335]

The second I read the title I knew it was a parody, and a funny one at that, good job, you gave me a nice laugh!

[FragMnTagM]

I see what you did there...lol.

[Figboy]

i play games to be entertained, not practice my faith.

besides, i remember Bible Adventures on the NES...*shudder*

i was born and raised in the church, and i have a strong belief in God, but i also love all sorts of games, from God of War to Metal Gear, to Silent Hill.

i'm the type of guy that doesn't feel the need to impose my beliefs onto other people.

i think religion can be handled maturely and respectfully in video games, but most of the time, religion, or at least religious people, are represented in gaming as stereotypes or cliches, and are not at all representative of the entire culture.

us Christians, for example, are often portrayed as bible thumping zealots, but hypocrites. we are portrayed as forcing our religion on everyone, even when that is not the case for all of us.

i think people should be free to believe and practice whatever faiths they want, as long as it's not causing any harm to other individuals.

even though i'm Christian, i also think that other cultures and their religions have merit. for me, it's like different facets of the same concept, with not one being particularly more right than the other.

i'm more on the Christian camp, but i also believe that faiths like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islamic, etc, are all pointing at the same thing, just with different interpretations.

also, at their core, many of the religions out there are teaching a similar message; to have some sort of peace in yourself, and treating others with respect. the introduction of any diety or holy person, i feel, isn't as important as the core principal of not being douches to one another.

in either case, i play video games because i want to have fun, go on epic adventures, and be entertained. i don't need a Sunday School lesson.

[sleewok]

I'm not trying to start an argument, but if you call yourself a Christian then you need to look up John 14:6. Follow up with 1 Corinthians 13.

Other religions don't "point" in the general direction. And merit doesn't gain anything. If you disagree with this verses then I would do some deep reflection.

[Absolut_Turkey]

"Judge not, lest ye be judged." Sound familiar? First you question Fig's faith, then you talk about "other religions" and their "general direction". And third, you do it in a video game forum?! WTF!!! "Do some deep reflection"...really? Sanctimonious much?
Gandhi said it best: "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians though. They are nothing like your Christ."
OT: Just like the State, Religion and Video Games should be kept separate. Nuff said!

[Figboy]

and sleewok, i believe in God. i believe in Jesus Christ, but i'm not going to downplay and disrespect other people's religious belief.

there is NOTHING that proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that MY faith is "MORE RIGHT" than another faith. do i believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God? yes, i do, but that doesn't mean that i don't believe or respect other holy men like Buddha or Muhammad, and that they were touched by some divine presence. i'm pretty sure it was the same divine presence that us Christians believe in, but as i said before, different interpretations of the same ideal. just like there are different languages and cultures, why would there NOT be different "languages" and "cultures" in spirituality and religion?

i'm not in the business of trying to prove that my religion is the right one.

i'm in the business of bettering myself, and ideally those around me, by setting a good example, and being a good person to others. i'm far from perfect, and i am most definitely not the "ideal" Christian, but i am proud of who i am, and of my beliefs. i don't live in fear of divine retribution for my actions, whether good or bad, and me and my wife are HAPPY. i can't say the same for many of my fellow "God fearing" Christians. why fear God? why be so afraid of the deity that is supposed to love and care for you that you are afraid to be true to yourself? do you curse? do you smoke? do you engage in pre-marital sex? why try and hide that from God by pretending to be all pious and noble? i'm not a perfect person, but i am a GOOD person (most of the time), and that's WITHOUT any fire and brimstone FORCING me to behave that way.

i try and do what is right and good because it makes ME feel good as a person, not because i'll get some sort of reward for it later. this isn't an RPG like Fallout or Mass Effect, where the "good" choice will net me some XP and extra items(hey, i tried to bring it back to Video Games, guys).

i'm not interested in the d*ck measuring contests and holy wars that various religions (mine included) find themselves in, that lose more lives than they are trying to "save."

anyway, N4G isn't really the place for this kind of talk.

[Walrus]

I think I actually might stop coming to this sight. Shouldn't this be on Badjoystick?

[DannyVenom]

It would be a nice sight not to see you on this site.

[00]

Unacceptable.

[dirthurts]

I'm gonna need it.

[LordMarius]

lol, yep

[DannyVenom]

Yeah, your priest is going to need it too.

He has some sexual tension.

[geth1gh]

article is pretty great.

the only thing is their IS sacrafice in god of war 3. you had to kill that guy to gain the bow of apollo.

[Games4M - Rob]

I saw that one as more of a straight up murder since it wasnt done to appease some kind of supernatural master as in the first 2.

Anyway glad you liked the article :)

[SilverSlug]

I'm tired of religious nuts that want everything to cater to them. Shut up, practice your religion on your own time and stop whining to the rest of us.

[rezzah]

Great article, I enjoyed it a lot.

[Holeran]

I am a full blown christian and yes I will be at church tomorrow but as for those that think that religion needs to meld into gaming please let it be. There are a huge number of different beliefs and religions around in this world we live in but until everyone understands there is only one true God there will always be these petty arguments.

[sleewok]

Yeah, let's compare brutal rape to removing swearing and nudity. Sounds logical to me. Let's add a little pedophilia to the mix while we're at it, because that's what some people "believe in". We have to draw a line some where, regardless of your "religion".

Come on people. This isn't even funny. It's sick.

[Nicaragua]

Your taking it waaaaaay too seriously - P A R O D Y

[catch]

Just to be clear.. you are talking about priests here right?

[BannedForNineYears]

"Treyarch effectively ruined a perfectly good game by including a 'Nazi Zombies' mode, which is totally uncalled for. I realise the game is meant to be mature, but this was pretty much encouraging zombie genocide, and really freaked me out at its callous insensitivity. I have many friends who practice dark Voodoo, and you know what they did? They tried to play the game but realised it was far too offensive against our faith, so we threw the thing away."

R-O-F-L....xDDDDDDD
Best article......EVAR.

[Mo0eY]

Take note, bots. This is how you troll.

[ChrisW]

The PS3 camp is a little more prominent here at N4G and they love to troll... horribly, albeit. The worst trolls however are the inarticulate ones who have a minimum of five accounts, gives themselves positive feedback, AND flames themselves with one of their other accounts to help stir the bucket. Yes, Sir_Ken_Kuratagi you are one of them, if not the main one. GOD, I love pointing fingers!!!

As for this response to Christian games... I thought it was a little off. Whilst various cults have been known to conduct violations against the humane code, the Satanic Bible is NOT a book of hate and sin. It is actually a moral guide book, mixed with a little archaic magic and superstitions.

Nonetheless, I really enjoyed the article and read it to the end. Whereas, I couldn't even finish the Christian namby-pamby one.

[Microsoft_Spokesman]

This is probably your, what?, 6th or 7th account?

[ChrisW]

It's my first. Or better to say, my original account. I did however create 2 other accounts. Can you guess which ones?

Will the truth here hurt? I seriously doubt it!!!

[Cletus]

Now only if my cow, Betsy, had an account...

[Gem]

I still think Gem was a decent name...

[doa766]

no satanist ever abused 200 deaf kids

[Games4M - Rob]

Speak for yourself. I dont leave the house until i've massacred at least 200 handicapped children every day.

*joke - duh

[DannyVenom]

Yeah, 200 is ridiculous. I won't stop until at least 325.

[Microsoft_Spokesman]

You're an insult to Satanism, 326 is the number. You're 1 short.

[karan8624]

Anything short and ill sacrifice my soul to the fiery eternal pus-spewing blood hemmoraging depths of hell

[ExgamerLegends2]

...

[spektical]

i read through all the comments, and some people just dont get that the man just made a parody.

.. some people are just idiots. The guy simply is saying "well if you say its that bad for you, well its bad for me so shut up." At least thats what i gathered.

[Quadrix]

A Satanic Occultist? I like this dude already.

[ravenl0rd]

Kicking Satan's ass is fun. More kicking of Satan's ass, please!

[Games4M - Rob]

OK, this really shouldnt need pointing out but for all those that havent clicked and are getting themselves all worked up - YES ITS A PARODY.

The christian article is pure bullsh1t. Censorship is never a good thing, if someone dosnt like the content of something then dont play it, watch it, listen to it - everyone has a choice.

Disguising an agenda behind religous intolerance sucks.

thanks to everyone who took the time to read the article

[mattyhalewood]

I like killing people and zombies almost to the same degree, its cool that I can also do it in games, great article.

[Figboy]

i'm serious, there are TONS of games that allow you to kill zombies (even Saint's Row 2), but for some reason, i don't feel it's an oversaturated market.

shooters on the other hand, are pushing it beyond it's breaking point, but zombie killing? no.

it's one of the few joys in gaming to take out hordes and hordes of the undead.

does that make me racist?

[DannyVenom]

Christians asking for special treatment is getting more and more common. If there is a point to be made anywhere, some religious fool will pop up and fight it to the end using 'God' and 'faith'.

Why should these religions have any more rights than anything else? I know a church that went to court to use psychadelic drugs legaly, as it was their practice to reach God. Know what? They got it.

If any other group tried that bullshit, they would be laughed at.

[the-show-stopper]

shows how much you know

[seinfan]

Define "special treatment". Let's all have a good ol' time bashing the mentally and physically handicapped, the homosexuals, women, anybody that basically isn't a representative of ourselves. Essentially, it's okay to be a sociopath, right? Pfft, they should quit complaining about the flak they get and quit whining about wanting their special treatment. However, if I'm persecuted, it's just wrong.

[REDHULKSMASH]

How's that working out for you?

[DannyVenom]

You get some dirty looks, but the Satanic women - yes.

[bjornbear]

but i agree

also satanism is actually a very pacific religion xD i doubt they'd ever complain about anything but their own well being if it was threatened =)

[HurstDarkStar]

hmmm to kill the bad guy in my game or respectfully die to him? whats a gamer to do

[Morgue]

I saw the title and thought it was Hip Hop Gamer.

[That_Genius]

@ 1.16 What the hell is your point? Lol, just because other professions do horrible stuff to doesn't make what priests do any less wrong. What your insinuating is that its alright for priests to molest little boys just because other professions have their faults as well.

@ Everyone that's whining about this article. I think your missing the point. Its not about the fact that hes Satanic, its the point that we shouldn't have to cater to everyone just because someone gets offended by something they choose to do. Its either cater to no one or cater to everyone.

This article is a great read. You Christians need to stop being so sensitive. If it offends you don't read it. It has satanic occultist in the title I think its pretty obvious your probably not gonna like it.

[gypsygib]

Then you should thank me when I say BURN IN HELL

[lightningsax]

Oh my insert deity here. You can all stop flipping out now - it's a joke, people. Let's keep the crazy in the Open Zone and talk about games.

Actually, I'd think that a Satanist would be pleased with Doom. Sure, you're killing demons, but it made them look pretty freakin' cool back then! But since when does "Dark Voodoo" intersect with this? I kinda figured that Nazi Zombies wouldn't really have much to do with this article - he'd be better off including Bayonetta or Darksiders if he needed a newer game.

For the Christian side, sure, there aren't necessarily "games about God" that much, but many of the values represented in some of the best works line up very well with basic Christian values. Look at Hollywood. Same way, except they have a bit of a bigger audience to serve, so you'll see some religious movies do well.

If you're a Buddhist, look no further than some great Japanese titles. A good example would be Persona 4, which shares a lot of its psychological insight with Zen, and the more complex and metaphysical stories that confuse us Americans have a lot to with with both Buddhist and Shinto values, beliefs, and mythology. Some even take those off the deep end into postmodernist theory, like the ending of MGS2.

[Games4M - Rob]

The whole zombie thing comes from voodoo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[x5exotic]

GEORGE BUSH DOESNT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE!

[Ripyealip]

they should make a game where your some demonic thing killing all the happy nice people. that would be fun lol

[seinfan]

Satanists do not worship demons or Satan. What an idiot this guy is. In his attempt at humor against a Christian, he is pushing forth a misconception. Clearly he's just some butthurt anti-theist or something.

[Games4M - Rob]

Im only butthurt because all those christian priests keep trying to bum me.

[bjornbear]

wrong post

[dreamhunk]

don't like the truth huh god is coming any way even if you don't like what I have say.

it is written those who don't love the truth god will send them a powerful lie.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I understand this was supposed to be a parody but it's actually not very funny and doesn't related to the other article much at all.

The other article talked about representation not about how Christians are portrayed in games.

[Games4M - Rob]

"The other article talked about representation not about how Christians are portrayed in games."

It also talked about things that things that offended the author which he felt (some would say without basis) were due to his religous beliefs - thats the part i latched onto to use as the basis of the parody.

You didnt think it was funny, fair enough. A quick glance through some of the comments tells me that lots of other people did find it funny so im happy.

[Daishi]

For those who have read every comment before mine I'm pretty sure you've come to the same conclusion, the internet is not the place for a theological discusion. We don't know the backgound, education level, or seriousness of each commentor (not to mention the inteligence level). And for all those barking persecution this, persecution that ask a Jew whose lived through WWII if you really want to know. Well there's my 2 cents, and it's the 2 cents of an imaginary avatar named daishi and it should be treated as such...

[JackBNimble]

So what are the Israelis/Jews doing to the Palestinians?

[MidnytRain]

he's using 2 accounts, ExgamerLegends and ExgamerLegends2

[clarkdef]

There are no Gods or God left...Kratos killed em all! This is a very funny article, I get that people want everything from a grey world, if we were to please everyone we would have no games at all,...maybe pacman

[bjornbear]

again -_-