FFXIII is 32.6GB of movies and just 6.8GB of actual game content

An analysis to FF XIII blu-ray disk shows that the actual game content is just 6.8GB.

[Honolulu]

That's because a 360 game disc can't hold more than 6.8gb-something of data, the rest of the space is used up for physical protection against piracy.... which doesn't really work that well though.

[hay]

Actually it's almost 8GB digital data. But yeah, as usual it's fit to the fullest. But be aware of the fact that except the game data there also must be cutscenes present on the disc.

[LiquifiedArt]

but i think i'm rejecting it in complete protest against the franchise and the horrible direction its been heading since FFX.

[StanLee]

WTF?! O_o

[bnaked]

@Honolulu

Yes, thats the truth, don't know why you got disagrees..

[Lifendz]

I guess blu-ray isn't needed. All you PS3 naysayers were right despite anything Guerilla, Naughty Dog, or Insomniac said! /s

[Shang-Long]

blaMe the company that sold out. Not the one that brought em out

[Persistantthug]

But what I'm not sure about is why or how this would come into play with Final Fantasy 13, seeing that it's using multiple disks anyway.

Maybe this was a coincidence....maybe not...kinda strange though.

[Cold 2000]

Maybe SE should cut off some CGI next time and actually expand the game.

I am a FF fan and I wouldnt cry if SE produce a new FF with half the CGI but twice as big.

But I have to admit those CGI's are gorgeous and they're a part of FF games but geez..."32.6GB of movies and just 6.8GB of actual game content"

[vhero]

If ff13 (360 version) is like all other multi disc ff games and the full game is on every disc and all that's different on each disc is the movies then the 360 version will be dulled down massively as they can't just use 1.2gb for movies per disc surely? Of course thats speculation but S-E have made every one of their previous RPGs the same including chrono cross so I can't see them changing it for ff13.

[snake_eater]

360 game disc = 6.8 GB max for games
FFXIII = 40GB game data

40*1/6.8 = 6 dvds

anyways kudos to square enix for ruining FFXIII...

[sikbeta]

Just 6.8GB?

CR@P!

Well, is Multiplat game, more Disc = more Royalties

Better FFvs13 use Much More GBz than that

[ravinash]

Think how good the game would have been if they used more of the disk for the game. And your trying to say that all that space isn't needed.

plus are you also trying to tell me that the 360 version they have removed all the cutscenes.
Something is not adding up.

[SoX FireBlade]

those CGI movies have big filesizes I guess

and it's JRPG not surprising

[HDgamer]

Versus XIII will only make it better.

[NOOBKILLA]

Well it's like this in my opinion. Since the FFXIII is identical then the actual gameplay will be the same on both consoles. As for the FMV the 360 will be displayed at 720p while the PS3 will be displayed at 1080p. Just like any 1080p video rather it is from a game or a blu-ray movie will depend on your TV to get the quality from it.

It has been proven that unless you have at least a 52" 1080p TV you can't tell the deference between 720p and 1080p video and I totally agree with that.

The PS3 appears to be made for gamers that are also tech geeks. To truly get the potential out of your PS3 you need a 52" or higher 1080p TV with at least a 120 refresh rate and 50,000:1 contrast ratio AT LEAST, a receiver with DTS HD and Dolby HD capabilities. Thus the reason why they're so many fanboys! 95% of them can only afford one system and can't afford the TV and sound system that can really display 1080p the way it needs to be. If the game was a PS3 exclusive then the gameplay would be closer to the quality of Uncharted 2 and GOW 3, however I’m an adult so I know how business works.

It makes me wonder what type of set-up is used when games are being compared on the 360 and PS3.

PS. To all you fanboys, get a damn job so you can afford both a PS3 and 360 and step your TV game up like me and it wouldn’t matter. LOL

[Whitefox789]

remember in the 360 version the audio and probably the movies are compressed to save space.

[ilikecookies]

Honolulu got disagrees because while he is right about the dvd part, he has the wrong idea(even though I still blame the 360 for the game being gimped) There is 32gigabytes of data thats cutscenes and 6.8 gigabytes of actual game content. He is implying it is 6.8 gigabytes because dvd 9 cannot hold more than 8 gigs which is true but the whole game itself is 39.4 gigabytes and has nothing to do with xbox. He was simply being a fanboy =)

I think we should be more worried about more cutscenes than gameplay rather than being gimped for the 360 version.

[Monsignor]

After seeing that you think you can't tell the difference between 720P and 1080P on a screen smaller than 52", I quit reading. Because you clearly know nothing about HD or Tv's. Whether you can tell the difference between the two relies mostly on your viewing distance. Sure, if you were 40 feet away, it would be tough, but if you sat 8 feet away from a 52" TV, you would CLEARLY tell the difference between 720P and 1080P. Go educate yourself before calling people fanboys.

[wpggamer]

They already said the 360 version will have compressed textures (part of the game data) and movies and audio. The 360 version is 21 gb approx. So the game data is probably somewhat smaller for the 360 version as has been stated numerous times before. So this saying that it's because of the 360 is a crock, you guys just don't know what you're talking about.

[PinkUni]

i didnt actually believe that this game was going to be limited by the dvds but i guess this proves it...

[rafaleon]

Anyone?

[Sarcasm]

"It has been proven that unless you have at least a 52" 1080p TV you can't tell the deference between 720p and 1080p video and I totally agree with that."

*Sigh*
There's a thing called optimum viewing distance. For example, I can tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on my 46" Samsung if I sit 6-7 feet away. Obviously I wouldn't be able to tell the difference if I sat 10-12 feet away. That's when a bigger screen would be required.

[El_Colombiano]

"It has been proven that unless you have at least a 52" 1080p TV you can't tell the deference between 720p and 1080p video and I totally agree with that."

That is the most ignorant thing people say when they try justifying 720p as the same quality as 1080p I have my 42" LCD in my room and sit about six feet away from it and the difference between 1080p and 720p is night and day. So please, don't bring that BS in here.

[darthv72]

has there been an analysis on the size of metal gear solid 4? Really like to know what percentage is gameplay and just watching movies.

[Arnon]

Lol just wondering, but how is it that this game is limited by DVD-9, if the game is going to be shipped on 3-4 DVDs? Doesn't that basically contradict everything people say about it? Considering that a dual-layered blu-ray disc has 50 GB of storage, and the game itself is 39.4 GB, I'd say they're not leaving out much.

Then you start to hear that SE cut stuff out of FFXIII. If that's the case, then the game would easily exceed a single blu-ray disc, contradicting everything everyone says about how "multiple discs are bad and archaic".

It's pretty one-sided if you ask me.

[RadientFlux]

Not surprising, I think if you look at most Final Fantasy games (7 and after). The majority of the space on the disc is taken up cinematics.

[ThanatosDMC]

6.8gb?! Wow, that's a lot of content cut out from the original idea. AKNAA's link... ummm... wherever it is. Chocobo zoo, the characters' houses, the park, etc.

I wonder if SE also gimped PS3's textures to make them look alike?

[cyberwaffles]

"however I’m an adult so I know how business works."

you're an adult and you have a profile pic of goku and you're name is noobkilla? i thought you were like 15.

[NOOBKILLA]

Wow! You talk about fanboys with their garbage TVs and their one console (most likely M$ 360) they get all upset. Boo Hoo. Get some tissue or something!

I started off saying it was “my opinion”. I only can go off of my personal experiences and articles I have read. I have a 1080p 55" Samsung LED in my living room and a 32" 1080p Samsung LED in my bedroom. I've play both my 360 and PS3 on both of the TVs. My 55" sh*ts on my 32" by far!!

I'm sorry I thought N4G forums were where gamers sat and shared opinions about all aspects of gaming. The only thing I did was bash fanboys, if I made you flustered then you must be a fanboy and I apologize! LOL

[saint_john_paul_ii]

you got owned by the noobs. just shut up.

you have no idea what you are talking about. i have 2 hd TVs at home, a 720p Bravia and a 1080p bravia. guess what? put them side by side and immediately saw the difference while watching it at 6ft away from me. the 1080p picture was more crisp and more colorful than that of a 720p tv.

[NOOBKILLA]

Most of you all listen to sites such as IGN like it is the bible. I'm sure most of you have heard of CNET. Here is an article from last year about 720p vs 1080p:

http://reviews.cnet.com/720...

If you have time please read number 9 (especially the 3rd paragraph) and state your opinion. I'm not that far off with my "OPINION"!!!

[thewhoopimen]

I'm guessing most of you guys somehow missed this article yesterday or the day before:

Final Fantasy XIII Had Lots of Deleted Content
Art director says enough content removed to make another game.
http://www.andriasang.com/e...

That 6.8 of game content was closer to 14gb before they started gimping.

[Saaking]

The 360 version is gonna be really inferior when it comes to the CGI cutscenes. Anyways, the game was obviously gimped.

[Traveler]

Well, this is pretty much what I expected. If it were not for the movies and stuff it would fit on a DVD. Not surprising when you look at how huge RPGs like Fallout 3 and ES4 are and they still fit on a DVD.

Anyway, the cut scenes are what made them have to put the 360 version on multiple discs. After all, if it got much bigger even the PS3 version would have to be put on multiple discs. I wouldn't care though, because multiple discs has never bothered me.

[Millah]

Just quit while you're ahead. You're looking like an idiot right now. Especially for being an "adult."

For you to say any TV less than 52" doesn't benefit from added pixels is quite an idiotic statement. I don't care what size it is, more pixels is more pixels. Viewing distance has everything to do with whether or not you notice those additional pixels. Larger screen sizes benefit more from added pixels due to pixel density, but thats not to say the benefit is exclusive to them. Its just more exaggerated on a larger screen like I said due to pixel density.

[Honolulu]

@Ilikecookies.
I'm not a fanboy and I'm sorry if I offended anyone. :)

[Bodyboarder_VGamer]

Like 1 year ago I used to sell TV's in Best Buys and I read a lot about HDTV's so I can help the customers better and one thing is for sure. Even if you put 2 HDTV of any size side by side, one 720p and the other 1080p with blu-ray hooked-up I can assure you that you'll not notice a damn difference.

Another thing is that all this 120HZ TV thing is just another marketing BS to get people to buy newer TV's. We will never see native 120fps content nor games until maybe the PS4 or something so that feature will be wasted. The same with the 24p BS. In fact, the 24p thing make the movies look even worse... What you really need to watch closely before buying a new TV is the "refresh-rate MS" and how well the "dejudder" works. Most 120HZ displays have dejudder but that doesn't means that it works as good.

And let me tell you that Plasmas are still the best. LED's are just a re-branding of LCD, they both suffer from the same problems of not entirely deep blacks and lag. I really feel bad for all those people wasting thousand of dollars in a LED when Plasmas are still better and so much cheaper. But that's the power of Marketing combined with the stupidity of the consumers.

[SaberEdge]

Absolutely. Plasma is the way to go. All LCDs, whether they use LED or CCFT, they all have problems inherent to LCD technology. They can try to cover it up with a bunch of gimmicky features, but it doesn't hide the fact that you can get deep blacks, fast response times, great contrast, better color reproduction and little to no motion blur with a Plasma for less money. The only issue I have with plasma is that you can still get some image retention and even burn in, but it is a much smaller problem than some make it out to be.

Personally, I can't wait for OLED or SED or one of the other newer technologies on the horizon.

Moving back on topic, this goes to show you that except for the occasional JRPG that uses a lot of CGI cutscenes most games this generation fit just fine on a DVD. Games like Lost Odyssey came on more than one disc, but it didn't bother me at all. The fact is, most games this generation don't need more than one DVD and to have an occasional game that does isn't even an issue.

[thewhoopimen]

Hey did you hear that Pioneer is planning to stop production of Plasmas this year? Wonder why huh. Plasma's use about 2-3x the amount of power that LCDs use, and they still have burn-in issues (whatever you say bub, put about 100 hours into MW2 like most ppl do on here is gonna damage a Plasma). They're heavier than LCDs, and are not sunlight friendly (which basically means they aren't good for most people's homes. Not everyone watches TV at night only... sorry.)

LED LCD Tvs as long as they are not edge lit (and if they are... they're like 1/5 the thickness of a plasma. Its the tradeoff), but with a full backlight array, not only use less power than current CCFL LCDs, but have near, =, or better the black levels as Plasmas and probably 2x-3x times the brightness levels too. LCD's have such a wide cost range that ANYONE could literally buy an LCD (not that I'd tell u to go get a cheap one). Plasmas while they are much better value these days ... can't compete on the low end.

But with OLEDs coming in even LCDs won't last forever. But come on, Plasmas are obselete like DLPs.

PS Did I mention you can swap out backlights on an LCD (sorry SOL for plasma when it gets old) AND even conjecturing that you couldn't, you would still have a better lifespan out of your LCD usage than your plasma? Bet you didn't know that.

[legendkilla]

I have a Pioneer 50 inch plasma and its way better than any LCD or LED
lmao swap back lights? name one model of any LCD that you can "swap back light ". Burn in only happened on the first few generations of the its been a non factor for so long.

[oohWii]

Have anybody noticed how many time the same thing is repeated over and over again by different fanboys as if the version of the same dumb comment is the only one being read?

Why do they do that? There is a huge group of lemmings on this site that simply repeat the same crap that the dude two messages above says. Kind of irritating...Does anyone have anything original to say, if not why not just read and not say anything.

Just a question.

[DJ]

And I can Definitely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p content on this screen. You don't need 52 inches to "tell the difference". Stop spreading FUD.

[imtiyaz6]

I played killzone 2 in a 40inch series X Bravia last year... wonder why it was so damn grainy??? the game in the 40 inch 720p Samsung LCD looked so much better. Can any one help me out???

[Pika-pie]

They already confirmed that PS3 version has 1080p cutscences lossless 7.1 uncompressed audio. The 360 version does not which whill cut down on at max 1/3 of those GBs size above.

Guess the 360 version is a 3 disker then.

[Omega4]

So if there was no CGI FFXIII could have fit on 1 dvd with space to spare, and thats without any compression aswell 0.o

[Christopher]

And how many stand alone FF games since FF7 have not been heavily laden with CGI?

The really sad thing people should be recognizing is that there isn't uncompressed audio.

I'm also wondering if this means that 360 owners will have to copy the game data to their HDD and insert CGI source discs or something similar?

[GrandDragon]

Indeed this game could have fitted on one disk, but that would have no Audio or CGI cut scenes. In fact 5.1 Audio takes up a lot of space, so 7.1 lossless audio takes up even more! This division of space/memory/data is seen in EVERY game, including Exclusive PS3 titles.

Nothing to bash about at all, in fact Square Enix could have utilised that extra 10GB for content but they decided to take it out, which was a wise move since they had to compromise for fairness and equality.

They promised the gamers that both versions on both systems would have the same Game content and Game Quality, but obviously not absolutely identical since the PS3 is inherently superior in both its HD capability and Audio output.

We have to congratulate then for having to cut so much content, and having to compromise to make both version equal. Seriously people stop with the hate, the game looks amazing and it gives a great deal of content for what its worth.

Lets all hope that SquareEnix release DLC in the near future for this game.

[edgeofblade]

At this point, I should ask why they don't just animate these things in-engine and save the space... and disks?

I find it funny that people regard larger disks as "necessary" since AAA games tend to expand toward the upper limits of their storage medium anyway. And, on top of that, most high-fidelity visual effects don't come from huge texture files, but from algorithmic processing of fairly LOW-rez maps. In other words, it's no big surprise that FF13 is actually small, if you shave off the CGI bloat.

[Godmars290]

They may have promised both versions would have the same content and quality, but before that they promised it was going to be exclusive and use exclusive tools. Use the most of the sole-system abilities.

They broke the latter, though earlier, promise so why doesn't that make any further promises they make suspect?

[saint_john_paul_ii]

you mean the DLC that should of been on the Blu-Ray disc in the first place? you know the content that they got rid of in order to make the 360 version equal to the PS3 version.

this game would of had lots of potential if it was only exclusive to the PS3. it would of had open world gameplay for that matter with loads of side quests. but guess what, Square-enix got too greedy and they ported the game to the 360 version.

people werent pissed because the game just went to the 360. people were pissed because of this decsion which would cut so much stuff from the game itself. the same fear that has come true. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

now we have a trash game.

[SaberEdge]

What more do you want, Pope? It already almost fills a bluray. What do you want, two blurays?

FFXII Versus is being made solely for the PS3, but if you think it is going to be any different you are going to be sorely disappointed.

Face it, that content was cut out because it was junk content. It didn't work, so they cut it out.

[ClownBelt]

It defeats MGS4? Lmao

[WildArmed]

yeah simply because MGS4 had no CGI, it was all done in the ingame engine. (and yet looked equal to if not better than FFXIII)

[The Lazy One]

it did not look better than FF in any way except brown-ness

[saint_john_paul_ii]

MGS4's Cutscenes were all done in-game. the game have 35+GBs of content.

[Finalfantasykid]

MGS4 had one cutscene that was not in game(it had in game graphics, but was a video).

If you watch the epic cutscene at the end of the chapter in chapter 3, you will notice a small amount of compression going on, and furthermore, you cannot zoom in like you can in all other cutscenes.
But other than that, all other cutscenes were 100% in games as far as I know.

[DaTruth]

There was no browness in the South America level or the Shadow Moses level. And I probably wouldn't even qualify the London level as brown.

So 3/4 levels are not brown at all! Maybe the only reason there was a brown level is because there is nowhere in the Middle East that isn't brown!

The browness is just a consequence of having a Middle Eastern level!

[Xwow2008]

Iam not really surprised by that, they already cut alot of contents .

[hay]

Actually if you look at the file name indexes you can estimate how much of it was cut out.

[memphis2]

there was an article sating they did cut a lot of content enough to create another game with.

[WildArmed]

i hope SE isn't planning to sell us 20$ DLC packs every 2 months form march to 2012

[iron_sheik]

the disc is copy protected and read protected too
not all physical memory spaces are visible
ever seen FF8 ps2 memory footnote ?

It had 4 files of 8mb only.in reality the contents were all HIDDEN

The game is downgraded for x360. However i am happy i wont be getting the version of 4 DVDS with compressed video at 720p only

PS3 FTW

[Shane Kim]

Exactley, you cant just pop it inside your computer/PS3 and expect to see all the files. There are LOTS of hidden files wich no one but the admins can see.

[Trebius]

Fact of the matter is, 360 ruined this game...the 60 hours of content that was removed due to the limitations on the 360 can attest to that.

360 bots can say what they want, and live in their world of Denial.

But those that think logically, know that FFXIII is not the game it was promised to be, because SE was influenced by the ol' mighty dollar and gimped their game.

Another thing that proves it's true is the fact that developers were definitely angered by the move, because some said if the same happens with FFvsXIII they would QUIT.

What message does that send to you???

FF is supposed to be a labor of love! Id be upset as a developer if we had to TRASH all our work and gimp it because we got a check.

At least vsXIII is going to be the ORIGINAL VISION realized, and not gonna get gimped.

[LEGENDARY PELON]

Ps3 only does movies :)

This game is a fine example

Honorable mentions:MGS4

Well ima go play some Halo 3 online, a perfect example of what a multiplayer
Game shud be

[garos82]

lol so its true the xbox 360 has no games. you poor man still stuck playing halo.

[CWMR]

-No, I know where he is coming from. The 360 has tons of games, but Halo 3 is so good that I can't help but continue to play it. That doesn't meant that I don't play a wide variety of other games as well.-

[chidori666]

WOW... thank you 360rrod for this downgrade and ruined the best francise of rpgs of family playstation... -.-

[Ultraplayerxd]

each passing day I get closer to not buying this game.

[memphis2]

this must be the 360 version.

[Blitzkid]

I feel sorry for the XBOX only owners. How will this content fit on a dvd? ^^

[Corrwin]

It won't fit on a DVD.

It's fit on several DVDs :|

I'd love to gloat, since I love BluRay, but this has been done since the dawn of multiple cassette tapes on the Commodore64 and earlier, no doubt.

[jellybalboa]

hey you had a commodore 64, not many people know wot dat is, i started with a commodore vic 20 then upgraded to a 64, bless the good old days.

[Corrwin]

You upgraded TO a commodore 64?

Are there not folk worshipping you as one of the Ancient Ones??

[jellybalboa]

well naturally yes i do have my own cult group we call ourselves the commodores,

[Lehman Brothers]

This is nothing NEW...

The japanese ISO of MGS4 had 22GB 7.1 True HD Audio file

and the game alone was around 10 GB huge...

Its a fact that every game can fiton a DVD9.. just look on the PC market.

Heavanly Sword was 7 GB big and the audio was 13 GB big.

Just google a little and you will find FACTS.

[Marty8370]

Fool.

The difference is that the PC can have it's data compressed as every PC has a hard drive as standard so installs uncompressed game data, same can't be said for Crapbox.

Lehman Brothers - you go on as if 1080p & uncompressed arn't required, just cos your Crapbox can't cope you don't need it.

What would you rather have Black & white 480p graphics, with mono sound.

Are you so stupid that you like living in the past. Well you must be, you did buy the crapbox afterall.

Jump Out, Play B3yond

[The Killer]

how dare u telling the bot above u to jump out to our beloved ps3??

if bots buy ps3 then they will just ruin PSN!! it will be all childish and swearing and shouting etc!! it is good that 360 exist!! at least it collect the worst of gamers in the world while the best gamers go to ps3!!

bots stay in ur sinking ship until u sink with it!! dont jump out!! we will throw u back to the water!!

[Immortal321]

any 360 purchase of this game is a slap to the face.
"MGS4" we all remember what they said. not the multiplat rumor but the gameplay itself.

[Lehman Brothers]

Japanese MGS4 ISO game data was 10 GB big/ Audio was 22GB

Heavenly Sword GAME data was 7 GB big / Audio was 13 GB

Just google for facts. This has nothing to do with Microsoft you Fanboys. Its a fact that actual games DO NOT need more than a DVD9 for game data only. Just look on crysis for the PC.

TAke a Nnrmal DVD with a movie and you will see how big a 5.1 DD sound is.

ONLY PS3 exclusives USE uncompressed 7.1 True HD audio.. its marketing to fill SOnys disc, nothing else.

[Blitzkid]

crysis is a very bad example. consoles have too little RAM to extract the data in runtime. btw. it is not very performant!

[Noob]

If 1 DVD was only needed, then why are there 360 games and exclusives that use 2 or more discs. Rockstar, 2K, Turn 10, and other developers are having issues fitting their games on DVD9. Regardless if it's a cutscene or gameplay, DVD9 isn't helping with game quality. First a racing game on two DVDs and now a FPS. That isn't a good sign at all.

Edit:

"Just google for facts."

That made me laugh. Google "Forza 3 2nd disc" and you'll discover that you need the 2nd disc for the "full experience". Oh yeah, it has to be installed to the HDD too so if your an arcade owner, I guess you won't be getting the "full experience". Ouch.

[PirateThom]

Crysis needs 12GB of hard drive space.

[anh_duong]

doesn't crysis have to be uncompressed and installed onto a hard drive to work?? the data is compressed to fit on a single disk but for the game to work the game has to be uncompressed onto the hard drive. even pc that are super fast can not be expected to uncompress on the fly.

taken from crysis webpage:

http://www.crysis-online.co...

Minimum Requirements

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHz (3.2 GHz for Vista), Intel Core 2.0 GHz (2.2
GHz for Vista), AMD Athlon 2800+ (3200+ for Vista) or better
RAM: 1GB (1.5GB on Windows Vista)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Radeon X800 Pro for Vista) or better
VRAM: 256MB of Graphics Memory
Storage: 12GB

minimum storage require is 12gb..

[Redempteur]

lol ..you make me laugh ..hard .

As if MGS4 without the audio codecs conversation is hardly the same game ... Of course it should count as an overall amount of data with the rest since the game heavily use this audio data ...

SAme with FF13 .. FF13 without CGI is not the same thing .. Overall the game ( the complete game ) can't be done the same way on another console .. .
That's why bu-ray is needed .. Come on FF13 use 32gb of data for CGI only .

[Ravage27]

the main advantage of blu-ray for gaming is that game devs no longer have to LIMIT their work to fit on a dvd. Whether it takes up 15gb,25gb or 50gb, fact remains that they all fit on ONE blu-ray disc. That means ALOT to sandbox games and RPGs (switching of discs in SO4 for e.g)

It is a great option and many devs have stated that they are happy with the freedom in their interviews

[thewhoopimen]

Hey Buddy,

The designers at Square Enix announced they took out 6-7 gb of game content from FFXIII... enought they claim, to make a totally new game.

Game data for XIII would've been closer to 14gb if it weren't for the decision to take out (ex:) "towns" in the game. You still think DVD9 is acceptable when my digital camera holds more memory just for pics?

[Traveler]

All games have some content cut from them as production goes forward. Nothing new here. Besides, if the game was much larger it wouldn't even fit on a Blu-ray. Then we would have to hear people complaining about having multiple discs on the PS3 version.

[dkgshiz]

dang

[Corrwin]

A Final Fantasy game with a lot of Video!?!?!

Extra Extra: Pope poops in woods!

[Lehman Brothers]

Ratchet & Clank and Resistance took both 22GB of space!

So how does resistance need 22 GB of space if it looks worse compared to Bioshock or Call of DUty and many others which take 6 GB space??

Both use uncompressed 7.1 True HD audio, like Heavenly Sword, Lair, MGS4.. like every PS3 exclusive.

[gtamike123]

Resistance looks good for first ps3 game.
http://www.xgn.nl/downloads...

Maybe you have a SD tv

[nefertis]

@gtamike123 nice pic of resistence. Playb3yond

[Pistolero]

Resistance and Resistance 2 both looked average guys...don't pretend otherwise...he is right that there is no reason that games like Resistance and Ratchet & Clank should take up that much space...which just goes to show that developers have to repeat data on the bluray to help loading times....Gears of War looks far better than Resistance yet fits on a DVD.

[dkgshiz]

From the extreme compression there going to have to do for the 360 version.

[Lehman Brothers]

There wont be any compression... The CGI will just run with 720p instead of 1080p + compressed audio.

FACT is, that graphics will look better on the 360.

[OmarJA-N4G]

You done embarrassing yourself now?

[rezenu]

I speak for everyone when I say...kindly shut the hell up.

Dumb fanboy.

[Meryl]

Haha you are so funny even IGN and 1UP have said they are both identical, when you get out of 2007 let us all know that time is not frozen for just you anymore.

[kingxXx]

I made my mind: i'm not going to download ( i mean buy lol) the game!!

[Marty8370]

Graphics & audio data are crucial part of the game. Having native 1080p & uncompressed audio just enhanced the gaming experience. PS3 version is clearly the superior.

Crapbox = Gimped version, have fun juggling/scratchin discs.

Jump Out, Play B3yond

[Shichiro]

Okay, I'm not too informed and I'm not against 360 since I do have both systems. I just want this question answered.

If Square Enix kept this game as an exclusive for PS3, would FF 13 kept more content and better game quality than this one?

[PirateThom]

That's the sticking point, isn't it?

There's no way of knowing exactly what has been cut or changed to accomodate multiple DVDs.

Duplicating data across multiple discs takes up space, but the CGI cutscenes are 1080p on PS3 and 720p on 360 which also takes up more space.

[SuperStrokey1123]

Well never really know, but my guess is yes but of course that is nothing more than a guess

[Godmars290]

We may never know, but when devs let slip they left enough "erroneous" content on the cutting room floor, some of which had been PS3 playable, that unanswerable question doesn't have a favorable answer.

[thewhoopimen]

The chief designer at Square Enix pretty much said that they took out enough game content from FFXIII to make another game. That's an educated guess of a total of 12-14GB of total game data. Of course space is a big deal.

[Traveler]

If that is true whoopimen, then the game would have to be put on multiple Blu-ray discs. The game is already almost 40GB of data, so if you added 14GB more of data that would put it over the limit for current Blu-ray discs. All games have content cut as the development process goes on, just like films. It doesn't mean that content was in a finished and polished state and then just cut out.

[OmarJA-N4G]

Thank you M$ & SE for ruining another game.

[N4Garbage]

Right...so Lost Odyssey basically is more game than FF13.

1080p Video and Uncompressed Sound take up lots of space....

Ps3 boys please explain.

If FF13 takes up pretty much a full 50GB Blu Ray when content was cut why was it the 360 version blamed when the Ps3 version couldn't suffice the content either?

Blame away morons, FF13 couldn't have been with that other content regardless of platform PLEASE tell me otherwise.

I blame the developers who rather make less game and beef up with cutscenes. 720p cutscenes and 5.1 audio would have made 0 difference to maybe 80% or more of the purchasers of this game anyway....yet SE decides to make more CGI than actual game....

FAIL.

[PirateThom]

As above, 360 version has 720p CGI, but it also requires data duplication across the discs. It's not like tons of CGI or cutscenes is a new feature to the series.

However, there's no way of knowing how this breaks down, but converting a single discs to multiple discs was always going to lead to cuts, but keep beliving it doesn't. It's amusing.

[SuperStrokey1123]

32.6+6.8 /= 50 gigs, thats a difference of over 10 gigs, which is almost 2 more full discs of 360 content. So the blu ray isnt even close to full. The 360 on the other hand has like 6 discs already (hyperbole but you get the point)...

[N4Garbage]

That's like saying creating a port would lead to cuts rather than just a loss to quality and from impressions the only loss of quality is the cutscenes and audio which my headset and TV will not recognize anyway.

To my knowledge the Ps3 version was created and optimized first and their end result was using 40GB of space which is a benchmark for a Ps3 game with MGS4 sitting at 32gb of data on disc.

What I'm trying to figure out is how the 360 VERSION stopped the Ps3 Version from receiving content it couldn't even receive anyway.

SE says "A whole other game" 10GB of 1080p CGI and Uncompressed Audio plus game data ISN'T a "whole other game" CORRECT?

[CARRIERHASARRIVED]

Hey, I've actually seen gimped/dwarfed versions of old psx games, and let me tell you, the videos and the animated, pre-rendered bg's make up for like 60-80% of the data on those discs, haha. I'm not even kidding. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same case with newer games like MGS4 and FF13. The PS2 FF games did ok, in terms of the number of discs they required.. and they had really nice cutscenes (or cg, whatever) in them all. If those games were only about 2 gigs worth of "raw game data" on the discs, I wouldn't be shocked.. But who knows, I don't make these games..

[SuperStrokey1123]

There was 10 more gigs of room to put game "elements" on the disc that will not be making it and square said they left tonnes of stuff out of the game on the cutting floor.

I dont see how you are confused here about what we are talking about.

[bjornbear]

the 360 to FFXIII is like the Nintendo 64 to FFVII

the link being,

like the cartridge was out dated by the CD, the DVD9 is out dated by the blu-ray

the difference here is, SE back then just bailed on the Nintendo 64 and hopped on with Sony

now, SE actually decided to go BACKWARDS in storage space technology, and restricted themselves

basically getting themselves into the exact mess they dodged about 12(?) years ago with FFVII

Hopefully the next FF will be a child of this problem, just like FFVII was ;)...*cough*remakeexclusive*co ugh*

[N4Garbage]

Wait lol...

So they cut out elements????

I swore it was actual GAME they said.

SE said nothing about elements, they said the game itself.

SE decided to make FF13 the way it is because they suck at developing and creating a good FF anymore.

If they wanted towns and non linear environments 1080p CGI should have been the first thing to scrap, NOT FU$KING gameplay.

FF13 was gimped in no way because of the 360 it's a THEORY AND MYTH created on this website that morons cling to.

If FF13 has over 6hours of CGI cutscenes that would equal about 5-6GBs of space on the 360. 3 discs....2GB of Movie on each that leaves 4.8GB of game data to be put on the disc 4.8X3=14.4-6.8(FF13 game data)=7.6GB.

Meaning 7.6GB is FREE on the 360 version also. WOW!! How can you not see the Xbox 360 hindered no one experience it was ALL SE.

Blu Ray and its read speed needs duped files so who knows how much of the ps3 version is duped for better seek times just like MGS4. The actual game minus dupes is close to 14GB....

The 10GB of space left on the Ps3 version couldn't have been used anyway so SE cut out content to "balance" the game not between platforms but for the GAME,so the content was cut because of the Ps3.

Isn't that weird how that works? I can take my own theory and just roll with it on N4G because it is a trend that so many follow.

[SuperStrokey1123]

You are welcome to believe that but honestly it sounds pretty silly when you logically think it through. Stranger things have happened though and you are right... this is square we are talkign about.

[thewhoopimen]

here you go genius, read this article:

http://www.andriasang.com/e...

About anywhere from 5-8 gb of actual Game content (not CG) was culled for the final release of this game. So try to keep that argument up about your DVD9 being enough.

There's CG and Gamedata. If culling CG isn't gimping and culling Gamedata isn't, then what is gimping? Yes I'm jumping the gun here, but I don't want to hear stupid rebuttals. If this isn't gimping I don't know what is.

[SaberEdge]

N4Garbage, you bring up a good point. Lost Odyssey has more actual game content than FFXIII and it is a 360 exclusive. That means that blaming the 360 for any perceived lack of content in FFXIII is completely illogical.

All signs point toward one conclusion: FFXIII is the way it is because that is the way Square wanted it to be.

[AliTheBrit19]

Wow........Wtf?

[FiftyFourPointTwo]

All thanks to a greedy company and an inferior console. -__-

[el zorro]

Who are you talking about? Sony and the ps3?

[cervantes99]

Mass Effect is a pretty big game, so I would not be worried about the 6.8GB size.

[anh_duong]

mass effect 2 comes on two disks..

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[cervantes99]

I was referring to Mass Effect 1, but I should just be able to install ME2 to the 360 hard drive and never need to switch disks.

At least I hope I can do this.

[Whitefox789]

I don't know if you can do that. If you copy your 360 games to the HD don't you need to have a disc in the console to verify its a legit copy?

[ThaGeNeCySt]

that's not how 360 installation works. You install the full game into the DVD, but without the actual game being in the drive, it won't boot.

[keysy420]

really its a multiplat game there dumbed down to get as much story in as possible. without that the game would make no sense

[Vip3r]

So for the 360 owners:

1. Insert movie disk to watch intro cutscene
2. Insert game disk and play for a while
3. Insert movie disk again to watch another cutscene
4. Insert game again to continue on game
5. Repeat over and over until you end up with severe arthritis.

Sweet.

[Whitefox789]

The real upsetting part of it is to switching discs to back track to past areas.

[webeblazing]

no surprise here they game always have cgi good thats its 1080p imma get some use out of my tv now i want another parasite eve definitely cant wait for vs this will hold ne over tell then

[Strikepackage Bravo]

has nothing to do with DVD size, this is just how Japanese often make games. Just look at MGS4, it was mostly movie too.

[Godmars290]

It could be about DVD if the original planned game content size was 10GB. Even 8GB. That would mean there'd be nothing left movies or music.

[jmare]

Have you ever played MGS4? If you had you would know that that statement is untrue.

[bjornbear]

but it has even more gameplay

you'll want to replay the game thrice, but only watch the whole thing through once to get the story.

It isn't a good game without gameplay, and MGS4 is one of the iconic games this gen.

and that is a fact.

[Guitardr85]

So?!?! what's the point of this article?!?!

[NiiGhTx]

Funny how 360 weebols say MGS4 is a movie, or Heavy Rain. Yet, FF13 is a movie as well, and they'll buy it. lololol

[Guitardr85]

I know!!! Personally, I like a lot of movies, loL! I know...Im crazy!

[Whitefox789]

Well considering your icon is Grey Fox I'm going to go and say yes you are crazy ! :D

[Guitardr85]

and how!!! This is how crazy I am...BUBBLES TO YOU!!!

[CARRIERHASARRIVED]

A 6.8 gig hallway is what it's starting to sound like (based on early reviews). Meh. FFX was the same way I guess. Hallways, and a few fields. then a pick-your-destination world map that allowed revisiting of said locations.

I do recall seeing a video not too long ago. It was a Japanese demo of the game, and it featured a big open landscape, and a huge animal/monster walking around. They attacked it and got killed. It kinda had that open-world feeling FFXII did.

Whether or not the game is as linear as they say, those cutscenes or cinematics or whatever are veryyy nice looking.. I can understand them taking up so much disc space.

[Lehman Brothers]

you are one of thebiggest morons here on n4g..

"Having native 1080p & uncompressed audio just enhanced the gaming experience"

I know.. every PS3 owner has a 7.1 TRUE HD sound system at home, lol!

Damn.. you kids cant even effort sonys exclusive games but you want to tell me about Real gaming experience with a 7.1 TRUE HD SOUND SYSTEM??

hahahahaha

Sounds like desperation because the 360 version will look superior in terms of graphics.

[webeblazing]

actually i dont im getting one next month hater and to the game part i dont buy every game i see or game that everybody hype and follow the heard. i got other hobbies besides gaming that takes money to do and what u said about bout 7.1 and 1080p makes what u said sound stupid but both will be the same cuz its MP

[meatnormous]

I have a 7.1 surround sound system. Onkyo makes some great models that won't break the bank.

[Bumpmapping]

Awww jealous are we?

[Marty8370]

Whats up, are we jealous.

The point is PS3 owners get the option of even better 7.1 audio, if they have the amp to support it. Where as Crapbox is incapable of 7.1 audio, it don't even have optical out let alone the space on it's 6.8Gb DVD9 to store it. So dated it.

[Meryl]

keep on dreaming, that's why uncharted 2 got the graphics(and goty) award this year, wait uncharted was on PS3 right, move along, troll in denial alert

[RedDragan]

Lehmann you forget, the kids that can't afford 7.1 are on the 360 mate.

PS3 has richer, better class of customer who prefer quality and quantity at the same time.

[AnotherGamerUser]

Why would you use a user name for a FAILED company?

[CWMR]

-The point he is making is that even though you guys trump it as some major must-have feature the reality is that the vast majority of people won't even be able to use it. I would be willing to bet my life that most PS3 fanboys trumping the lossless audio won't even be able to use it.-

[HINDERIZATION]

They have to use more gigs for the movements in the game and the videos as well.
The lesser amount of gigs is really just walking and the same actions for battles. I'm not surprised.
stop complaining about the awesomeness of lots of memory for blu-ray. Complain about the seXbox. It ruined it for all of us D:

[frankymv]

Learned my lessons from the past.

[jhani]

Metal Gear solid: Rising? Its a multiplatform game and the series are known to have more data allocated to cutscenes than actual gameplay. Any guess on how things will work on MTS:Rising?

[Honolulu]

I would'nt be too worried for the cutscenes in MGS: Rising, though.
Especially if they decided to make the game a multiplatform title early on.

Kojima loves his cutscenes. But the big difference there is that all cutscenes in the metal gear-series are rendered on the fly, using in-game assets. So the only thing hogging up the extra space on the medium is the sounds, music and dialog, and maybe for the occasional high-res prop and asset that was made specifically for this or that cutscene. this is easily a much better way to go if you're on a tight storage budget.

The FF-franchise has both realtime cutscenes and prerendered cinematics, and for the realtime-stuff they even have several different iterations of the charactermodels with different level of detail that they pick and use from for the different situation like if the camera is really close up or someone is far away, this is done in most modern games... but I've never seen it done to the same extent for main characters than in the later ff-titles.
If I remember correctly, FFXII even had separate character models for detailed hands.

At the end of the day, the way MGS tackles the situation is a lot more efficient economical when it comes disc space. The FF-games really pig out when it comes to storage because of their way of handling cutscenes, with a lot of prerendered cinematics... but they sure do have a talented cinematic team at Squenix.

[Solotov]

Will this proves that Squaresoft can not blame DVD for the game's shortcomings.

[Subzero200x]

lol why am i not surprised, and if anything this is why the ps3 is poor as a game system....haven't they learned anything from the ps1?

[Whitefox789]

It's all uncompressed man...

[3sq]

SE made the game and you are blaming PS3? gtfo.

[HINDERIZATION]

damn seXbox...

[kraze07]

And????

[rezenu]

Not sure if I want this game now...

It seems like they chopped this game up to pieces.

[kewlkat007]

The day we get a 30GB game that actually equals hours of playtime....well won't be a while

[Meryl]

I am going to laugh when FF vs XIII shows the bots just how gimped XIII really is

[SaberEdge]

I bet you it won't. It might look slightly better because it will have been made later (sequels always look at least a little better than their predecessors), but I bet there will be no significant difference between the two.

[-Gespenst-]

Okay, but nearly 7gb for the gameplay aspect of a game alone is pretty f**king big if you think about it. I'm sure it was the same for FFX onwards, albeit lesser equivalents in terms of data of course. And FFX is still one of the greatest rpgs ever made. (people who disagree with me on that last statement are ignorant to why the game is actually good.)

[bjornbear]

a company do a new game on a new generation platform with the POSSIBILITY of working with 50Gb make a game that doesn't take advantage of that space?

Just tell me, I dare yea ;)

[SaberEdge]

For the same reason that most games don't fill up a DVD9.

[dchang]

So the size of a game determines the gametime? Isn't this an RPG? Won't we expect to see at least 30+ Hours?

[webeblazing]

i want a new paresite eve its funny cuz these new games that mixing shooting wit rpgs then people act like it wasnt done b4 i loved how paresite eve did it truely felt like an rpg and the boss battle at the end on the skyscraper wuz the truth

[Meryl]

new version of parasite eve on psp:P I heard it may have copied from RE5, as long as the controls are fine i will have no problem with it

[Tony-A]

Hey look! It's nothing but "a movie", right? Like MGS4? More video than gameplay?

Oh wait, this one is a semi-multiplatform so it doesn't count...

[DigitalHorror81]

I love my Metal Gear as much as the next guy, but damn, 75% of a game being cut scenes is a little ridiculous. If I wanted a 60 dollar movie, I'd browse the Blu-ray aisle at my local supermarket.

[Whitefox789]

Well its uncompressed data what can I say?

[pegger24]

I would venture to guess that most of the 32.6 gigs is the sound files. 5.1 dolby sound tracks are large files, so I am guessin that 7.1 audio might be huge. Just a thought. I think if you were expecting a dumbed down version for the ps3 you are wrong. Those cutscenes are as much the game as the playable parts. If you are playing final fantasy for just action you are going to be disappointed. The game is about more about story and my guess is these movies are a great vehicle to move the story along.
or you can just hate on the game for being nothing but movies, doesn't make a lick of difference to me, I cannot wait

[Figboy]

i have ever seen.

because of fanboyism, beloved franchises like GTA, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, etc, have been turned into pariahs and outcast.

and for WHAT? because a game goes multi-platform?

look, me and my buddy played a good 10 hours of Final Fantasy 13 (he's since played more), and the game is really, REALLY good. the graphics are great, the battle system is great, the game is in Japanese, so i have no idea what the story really is, but the gist of it seems really good.

this unnecessary hate for the game because it's multi-platform is ridiculous.

this game is being ostracized for reasons i just don't understand.

a lot of you guys are simply being snobby, elitist pricks. you snort in derision when looking at games like Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God of War 3, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell: Conviction, when just a frigging generation ago, we never would have IMAGINED playing games of that caliber and quality.

it's unreal.

maybe it's because i've been playing games since 1985, but i'm constantly impressed at how far this industry has grown, and if a game like Final Fantasy XIII can't impress because it's a multi-platform, then what the f*ck DOES impress you guys? seriously. WHAT?

you guys are SPOILED. that's all it is. SPOILED, and have absolutely NO APPRECIATION for the time, effort, and dedication it takes to make a game look as good as Darksiders, let alone an Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, Mass Effect, Splinter Cell: Conviction, and Final Fantasy XIII.

you guys are unbelievable.

[Traveler]

I agree with you, Figboy. I appreciate the time and effort that went into FFXIII. I am going to buy it and play it and I couldn't care less about all this hate and conspiracy theories about the game. It is going to be a fantastic game and that is what is important. Gaming is better than it has ever been. The only thing putting a negative cloud over things is the extreme amount of fanboyism and hate on all sides.

[wages of sin]

That is the best comment I've ever seen on this site ever. My last bubble goes to you good sir, kudos. From one old gamer to another.

[Son_Lee]

You deserve an award for that comment. That's all I can say.

[Immortal Kaim]

Great comment Figboy, kids these days really do display a sense of entitlement. The fanboyism here is absolutely out of hand.

[andron]

Getting bored with all the fanboy hate too.

If the game data fills one entire DVD then it's no small game, many games come on 1 DVD with compressed graphics and sound. This just shows the game is huge...

[NatureOfLogic]

http://www.square-enix.co.j...

Just sounds Great

[jalen247]

They must have compressed the game play content on the blu-ray disc to make it equal to the game play content on the 360's dvd disc. That would explain why the game play data is 6.8 GB. Shame on Square Enix.

[thewhoopimen]

They did... Read this article:

Final Fantasy XIII Had Lots of Deleted Content
Art director says enough content removed to make another game.
http://www.andriasang.com/e...

[AKS]

Both versions should be fine. I'm getting the PS3 version because I have a home theater setup that can actually take advantage of uncompressed audio and whatnot, but that won't benefit most people much.

It's awesome of Squeenix to include those features for those of us with the equipment to use it.

[Midgard228]

and army of two is 3 hours long for 60 bucks? who cares, least u know effort was still put into something. I loved mgs4 it was a good movie and game, wats wrong with ff13 being like that.

this gen just has a ton of complainers, so annoying

[collin1986]

I have a 32" sharp aquos that is full 1080p hd display and i can definitely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, and actually think my t.v looks nicer then most t.v's that are larger.

[NOOBKILLA]

I'm glad you enjoy your TV man. I'm not saying you can't have a good experience.

Look, my brother-n-law has a 1080p sharp aquos and I believe it is a 46" but i'm not sure. He calls me all the time asking me what he can do to get his television to look like mine with his playstation/blu ray player. I have a 55" Samsung LED. He can't do anything; my tv is just a better piece of machinery.

Now listen, i'm not saying that his or your TV is crap. I'm just saying that you get a better experience with a PS3 with a better TV.

[EvilBlackCat]

32.6GB of movies and just 6.8GB of actual game content?

LOL! wow this is why i hate the previous Final Fantasy games and a few other games.

A LOT OF CG and less actual game content.

Come on just imaging how cool will be if they create a world that is a 40gb of actual content.

I dont buy a game to sit back and watch a damn movie... i buy a game to play the role of the character in use in the game.

[AnotherGamerUser]

Equal EPIC fail of a game... LOL another MOVIE game.

[Stryfeno2]

FFXIII 32.6gb for PS3, because droids like movies

FFXIII 6.8gb for 360, because we play games...Thanks SE.

[UP]

The reason there is more memory is because the movies are native 1080p and the audio is uncompressed

[CernaML]

Yikes... You pretty much posted the exact same thing that Patchstation has already posted.

[UP]

having the movies at native 1080 does not make them longer. its just every thing is at a higher quality (for people with the right gear anyway)and it uses more space on the disk. who does not like things at a better quality. If you have a huge disk space you might as well use it.

[Imallvol7]

Why is this an article. The game is over 30GB. I want my Final Fantasy with the cut scenes? What is this trying to say? "Look, take out all the story stuff and it fits on a DVD." Yeah, that's correct, but then its not a Final Fantasy game.

Dumb articles.

[sofocado]

"That's because a 360 game disc can't hold more than 6.8gb-something of data, the rest of the space is used up for physical protection against piracy.... which doesn't really work that well though."

You are not serious right? I think that if it was a PS3 exclusive the BR would be filled with more HD Video and the same amount of game play. Lost Odyssey was 4 dvd it got more game play.

[Honolulu]

Definetly, I agree, they would most likely have more unnecessery stuff hogging up the storage on disc. It's been the same for all the Final Fantasy-titles since 7.
It was first with FFXII that they hit a wall and started having problems with lack space for their extravagant cinematics, but that game was of the size of an mmo and very different compared to the other ones in the series.

Why does so many think my post was negatively charged in any way?
a 360-disc holds 6.8gb of data, they probably went for that size with ff13 since it's an easilly divived figure when they counted in the engine framework and mastodont sized cinematics that has to be on each disc. They most likely aimed for that size so it would be easier to port without too much hassle, and it's a really smart move, imo.
I don't get it why everyone is so hostile in the gaming community nowadays.

[SaberEdge]

Yeah, but that is 6.8GB just for game content. They still have to spread the game over several discs anyway, so why in the world would they limit content because of the 360. It is a really weak argument.

[Justin_bristoe]

dont u mean u get played by ms??..yes thats what u ment

[jackdoe]

Old news. First found when game came out in Japan.

[JJFNIGHTS80]

Isn't kinda dumb for Sqaure Enix to only I mean ONLY have 6.8GB of game play and the rest is 32.6 GB of cut scenes in movies? They should of added more game time instead of movies. I'm just asking if any Final Fantasy fans in here what do you care bout most the movie cut scenes or the game play?

[-Gespenst-]

There's apparently 60 hours of gameplay, and that's not including side quests. I think that's plenty. So 7GB therefore isn't so small. And this article isn't a valid argument when the distrubution of memory follows the exact same canon of the game's predecessors; there's always been loads of cutscenes. The numbers just appear bigger because SE are working with a more advanced console and so the data they work with is obviously going to be on a larger scale. This is but an equivalent of previous titles.
And what's funny is, there was definately the same tenuous pre-game release hating for X, X-2 and XII, which, funnily enough, all sold superbly and only served to strengthen the Final Fantasy franchise, as well as being in my opinion, all outstanding games.
I don't believe import reviews are wholly reliable either. Surely you should wait until the western version is reviewed before condemning the game to mediocrity. A lot is lost in translation, even if you've learnt the language, and I believe an entirely japanese game cannot be truly apprecated by a westerner unless it's translated to accommodate their own language.
That said, I know this makes it difficult for me to extrapolate that the game will be great, but I have good reason; seeing that Final Fantasy games have consistently performed immensely. No one has any real substantial reason to say this is a bad game yet in the western world. Too much is lacking to cast such a judgement.

[SeraphimBlade]

I've done work in 3d animation, and I know that a rendered video takes a lot more space and data then un-rendered objects that the gamer guides and controls.

As long as the story's good, I don't mind.

[Michael-Jackson]

If you want the best experience possible, get the PS3 Version.

[SephireX]

@ilikecookies
Actually it is likely that the game data would have been more than 6.8gb in size if it weren't for the limitations of the 360 dvd9 format. Square said themselves that a lot of content had to be left out of the game. There is no denying that the quality of the game has suffered from being multi-platform due to such limitations. However, I'm not sure if this game will be any good anyway. Square may have gone in the wrong direction with this iteration. Only time will tell. I have both consoles but I'll be getting this on PS3. I'd be mad not to.

[DigitalAnalog]

OH well,

Now we know where Square-Enix has put more resources into!

-End Statement

[stonecold1]

arrives and i will wait till this version goes in the bargain bins if 50percent of content has been taken out i wont pay full price but if its true the game has been gimped because of the dvd final fantasy 13 has been ruined i cant wait till vs arrives on ps3 atleast it wont get held back on development and wont be gimped because of the 360 limitions everytime i see this article it dosent sound good the more i hear about iti was on the fence about this version but dont know now

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

DAMN IT! You can thank Sony for that crap. You really think these companies are going to make more game just because their is more room? NOPE! Just more useless movies. MGS4 is a perfect example of a game that has more movies and cut scenes than actual gameplay.

Bluray is not needed for actual games.

[DJ]

It was a very long game with a ton of high quality cutscenes and a gripping story. But I guess high production values, in combination with fun, innovative gameplay, have no affect on you.

[TheObserver]

I have been observing with little or no bias, but the Xbox 360 fanboys is getting on my nerves.

Look, FF series is always known for their superb story and top notch CGI, like an interactive book, yet the kids who started this gaming generation do not want the CGI part, calling it a movie or useless. *Facepalm* If they have more space for CGI, sure why not. More eye candy anyway.

I guess it's okay, FPS will do just fine if you don't want those useless "movies". If it is not your cup of tea then drink something else.

[CWMR]

-Way to paint with a broad brush. Only a few people have said that and at least one of them that I know of was a PS3 fan. So quit acting like 360 fans in general think that. I am over 30 and have been playing games most of my life and I don't think that way about cutscenes. I don't want all games to have long cutscenes, but for some games it is appropriate and part of their tradition--Final Fantasy being among them.

Nevertheless, even though I enjoy the cutscenes in the Final Fantasy games, I really don't mind if the game is spread out on a couple discs for the 360 version. It doesn't hinder my enjoyment in the slightest. Lost Odyssey is one of my favorite 360 games and it had multiple discs. It honestly doesn't bother me.-

[TXCrowe]

Cause after all Metal Gear 4 Sucked so bad because of all the cut scenes...
Right?

If it sells a lot on 360 then all that means is 360 peeps are full of it!

So, 360 owners, please stick to your guns ... DON'T BUY FF13 - after all its just a MOVIE!

[multipayer]

It must be all the menus you have to cycle through in jrpgs. :p

[andyo13]

I think n4g forgot that ff13 on ps3 has uncompressed videos. So its no surprise that its going to take up 32 gbs. If you guys actually did film you'd know how much space video takes up.

[statfreak]

Yea, video takes up a ton of room. Which would explain the amount in GB, I just wonder how much of it is cutscenes.

[DJ]

The CG sequences look amazing. And the game itself looks really fun, too.

[hazelamy]

square love their fmv, and i have to say i love it too. :)
who's surprised by this? honestly?
maybe the reason xiii is so linear is because they have to ensure players view the fmv in the right order, with content spread across multiple discs you have to have a set order to the content, where it wouldn't be a problem with it all on one disc.
of course that means any multiformat open world title will always be limited.
the slower drive in the ps3 may mean games take longer to load but it doesn't have as much effect on the game as limited storage space.

and to those saying this proves you don't need more storage than dvd offers just because of the amount of fmv, i say it does nothing of the sort.
look at titles like mass effect 2 and forza 3, apart from an intro vid they don't have much fmv at all, the first mass effect was all in engine, you could tell by the texture pop up in all the cutscenes.

[el zorro]

Yeah but what percentage of games this generation have needed more than one disc?...5% maybe...I'd say it is not an issue.....if more than 50% of games needed more than one disc then I would say it was worth talking about...but I have played some absolutely massive games that fit on one dvd, so I don't think it is an issue this gen....maybe next gen when game textures take up more space and stuff like that...but not this gen.

[The Judderman]

the more i hear and see about this game the more it sounds complete pants. Square seem to have lost the plot in recent years. Think i‘ll stick with mass effect.

[Main_Street_Saint]

It might not be enough game, IMHO. As much as I love cutscenes, it is a bit overboard to have that many hours of movie and not as many hours of actual game. PS3 or 360 who cares, I'm pretty much staying away from this one, period.

I know, I'll pick up a lot of heat for what I'm saying but I just don't care.

[MegaPowa]

all this for a some boring game :| you people need help

[PS360PCROCKS]

duh FF is always like that