Xbox 360 Failure Rate is 54.2 Percent, Game Informer Finds

consumerist.com writes:

"The Xbox 360 breaks five times as often as often as its closest failure-prone competitor, the PlayStation 3, a print edition-only Game Informer survey found.

The poorly manufactured, red ring of death-prone console has a 54.2 percent failure rate, compared to 10.6 percent for the PS3 and the Wii's 6.8 percent.

The magazine surveyed nearly 5,000 readers to get the data. And while the 360's rate is alarmingly higher than the others, it's still bafflingly low because it blows the mind to imagine that 45.8 percent of the consoles have not broken. Also, Microsoft's numbers are inflated because 360s are used the most of the three consoles. Results said 40.3 percent of 360 owners use the console three to five hours a day, compared to 37 percent of PS3 owners. Meanwhile, the plurality of Wii owners (41.4 percent) play their consoles less than an hour a day.

Microsoft also seized the gold medal for unhelpful customer service, taking nearly a month to repair or replace a console, while Nintendo and Sony stuck closer to a week. Only 37.7 percent of Microsoft customers found the company's customer service was "very helpful," compared to 51.1 percent fo Sony and 56.1 percent for Nintendo.

The most shocking number from the survey - and frightening from a consumer perspective - is only 3.8 percent of Xbox 360 owners said they'd never buy another Xbox because of hardware failure."

[Genesis5]

Damage control on the way.

Edit:

@ Nitro below. Yeah I'm having a hard time with those numbers too. Who ran the survey for GI? Nintendo.

@ Ultimolu. It's one of the reasons I have gone with PC and PS3 gaming this gen.

[ultimolu]

...I reckon so.

*prepares for doctor's appointment and runs off*

This is WHY I don't own a 360!

[Parapraxis]

Genesis5 , this isn't the first survey or study that has had numbers like this.

[Horny]

my friends RROD'd 3 times, hes now buying a new arcade. I never had a problem with mine so far, but I do occasionally hear weird noises.

[Nitrowolf2]

@dee
my buddy rrod 3 times as well. I laugh at him and tell him why do you continue to send it in. He doesn't give me a very good answer after that.

[Silellak]

The reason people keep replacing their 360 rather than giving up in disgust and just buying a PS3 is simple. The thing is, by the time you own a 360 long it enough for it to break down, you probably have at least a few games. You get it repaired, you get a few more games, and maybe it breaks down a second time.

At this point, you're pissed. You're ready to switch consoles. Except...you already own a decent library of 360 titles. Do you really want to make all of those games worthless by replacing a 360 with a PS3? You might get a PS3 in ADDITION to a 360, sure, but switching companies is a much less tempting option when you've already built up collection of games for a particular platform.

Not to mention you've already built up a collection of online friends to play with, who may or may not have PS3s.

[Horny]

He had a model with no HDMI input which were the earlier ones. I waited until later to get a 360, I was just going to play exclusives but then my PS3 broke, now I do all my gaming on the 360. I think ill get my ps3 fixed this month, its been since January since I played it.
Both systems have their faults.

[StanLee]

Man, do I feel lucky. Almost 2 years and not one problem with my XBox 360. *knocks on wood*. Yet my friend had his for 4 months and has had it repaired or replaced twice.

[sunil]

I am confused...

Isint the acceptable failure rate in electronics (close to) 3%?

With PS3 and 10.6% and Wii at 6.8%, arent both the systems over the limit?

Interesting how Sony and Nintendo dont get blamed for bad quality hardware !

PS: How can anyone purchase the 360 knowing there is a 50%+ change of it failing?

[Cupid_Viper_3]

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/...

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Plus money for LIVE, You guys should at least put a petition that says that once your console break more than once, LIVE is automatically Free for a year.

Unacceptable.

[callahan09]

Well, I have no qualms believing these numbers. Every single one of my personal friends has had their 360 replaced at least once. But I know it isn't every single Xbox 360 that breaks. My first one broke 2 times and got replaced 2 times. Neither one of my breaks were RROD, though, both times it was a red & black checkerboard pattern on the TV and I couldn't do anything. In September 2007, it did it a third time, and MS refused to fix it without charging me because they said they were only covering RROD errors with the extended warranty at that point. So rather than pay money just to fix a system that I figured would break again, I bought a new one. The new one has not broken. Maybe I should say "yet". But nearly two years is pretty good considering I had 3 breaks within the first year of my original (I got my original in September 2006).

[Chubear]

lol but to be honest, this article is not accurate at all seeing as they surveyed their readers and not actual hard line prove like consumer data companies do.

Watch dog groups across EU & NA now have the 360 failure rate at btw 18-30% depending on what is termed as a hardware failure for certain regions.

Generally, the accepted failure rate for electronic WW is roughly 5% which Nintendo and Sony are both well below.

[InfectedDK]

"I love extremely high failure rates and the PS3 is doomed... Gran Turismo 5 sucks and Sony is leaving the console market"

[JokesOnYou]

Its 54% of their readers who have had a RROD before, right?

How does that make the current failure rate 54%? I like to see reports with data that shows the LTD failure rate vs failure rate after the falcon and jasper models, to see what percentage decrease there was. Lets be honest there are alot of fanboys on both sides subscribe to mags, I don't know too many avg gamers who buy mags these days. Also wouldn't it be obvious that most subscribers of a gaming mag like GameInformer are avid gamers who brought a launch 360, which of course were the most failure prone?

This survey puts ps3 failure rate at a little over 10% which is higher than I've ever seen reported, but again its from 5000 readers of GameInformer mag so who knows how accurate it is, both sound inflated.

On a positive note, I don't think its too "shocking" that only very few people would never buy a 360 again because of hardware failure, they brought ps2's after its problems, and despite what n4g tells you a 3 yr warranty goes a long way, "proof is in the pudding"= when you don't have to pay and there's great games to be played and great services to be had from a "consumer perspective" its still well worth the money= continues to sell and even those who've had a failure still would buy another one.

JOY

[Poopface the 2nd]

I did have one 360 break after I sold it to my friend, but my newer one seems better. 50% seems high, as does the 10% and 7%. If it was a survey on a gaming site(think of N4G survey), I doubt people would be honest.

I know 360 breaks alot more than the other systems, but all these numbers seem high.

Heres something funny I saw on tv about videogames yesterday

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[v1c1ous]

to justify NOT owning one.

microsoft F'ed up big time. the RROD will haunt them forever. they lucked out in being so rabid in obtaining enough content for their console that fans "semi-forgive" them.

it's sad in another way because, i honestly think the RROD issue is what's keeping the 360 from its full potential.

imagine if the RROD issue wasn't as rampant as it was. if it wasn't such a staple of sony fanboys ammo against 360 ("lol hurr durr that's why i dont buy one, even though its free to replace unlike PS3s"). maybe wii would have actually had a contender :/

[mint royale]

please, no one use these numbers for silly little arguments. i think all 3 are inflated numbers and a 'survey' by a website does not tell me much. Are they reputable? Who did they ask? Did they get an accurate spread of gamers and non gamers who own the consoles to get more accurate results etc etc. Judging from how high these numbers are I would say no.

[Parapraxis]

mint royale ....the survey isn't from a website.
"The magazine surveyed nearly 5,000 readers to get the data."
are you just illiterate?

EDIT: Sure, GameInformer has a website..no sh!t sherlock, however THIS particular survey was done through the magazine, which would require people to send in their surveys they filled out.

And anybody who understands customer service or product satisfaction surveys already knows that the people more likely to fill out a survey and mail it back in are people who have HAD problems.

People who are content with their service/products are much less likely to fill out and mail back the form.

This is a KNOWN fact, and an EASY explanation of why the numbers seem inflated, as you say. People who fill out the survey are motivated by their frustration.

http://www.retailcustomerex...
http://www.envirosell.com/i...

[pixelsword]

If I remember correctly, the guy who wrote the book about the 360's failing in the first place placed the failure rate close to 70%

http://74.125.95.132/search...

and when EA ran a beta test for their servers had a failure rate of 30-50% after Microsoft claimed a 5-6% failure rate

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/f...

so it *could* be true.

But it also could be true that people are buffering up the numbers... except that the people taking the poll could also be inflating numbers on the PS3 side too... and you have to take into account that the PS3's recorded failure rate have historically been lower than this poll's number, but you never know.

[mint royale]

Gameinformer isn't a website? Oh you learn something new everyday!

[II Necroplasm II]

Good thing I only play my 360 like an hour a day these days.

I bought a new Falcon 360 like in January I believe and sold my older one, but still I'm also trying to keep it healthy, not playing it too much and using it for a coaster instead.

[UnwanteDreamz]

I see alot of "gamers" here talking about 360 just being so dam*ed good that failure does not matter. You say there is no excuse for not owning one?

How about the fact that everyone I know personally who bought a 360 has had it replaced. I am sure there are more than a few with their first 360 still running but I don't like the odds.

Then we got those saying that it's free to replace so why not get one. I bought a gaming system to play video games on. Why would I spend my hard earned money on something I am just going to have to send back?

All I can say to you "gamers" is, thanks alot. Maybe the rest of the industry will take note to the fact that you are ingnorant consumers who will accept being bent over the couch without so much as a thank you afterwards. Maybe now we can all expect similar shotty hardware in the future. Hell MS did it and they are "beating" the PS3.

The fact that the failure rate is so high and they still sell is not a testament to how great the 360 is. Ever here this one?

A fool and his money are soon parted.

[Christopher]

If you're reviewing your typical readers, who are also typical fanboys mixed in with normal gamers, then these numbers are definitely bloated for the 360 and PS3. This is the first I've heard of such a high failure rate for the PS3, honestly. And, I'm sure the failure rate for the 360 is down to at least 25% with the Jasper chipset.

[Nineball2112]

Look, I have no doubt that the Xbox 360 has a significantly higher failure rate than either the PS3 or the Wii.

However, I think I'll take these results with a grain of salt for ALL three consoles.

Unless there is a survey done by a reputable firm who is in the business of polling / surverys, then I'll tend to be a bit skeptical about the numbers.

Does anyone really doubt that people would lie about their experiences because of all of this "console war" stuff? And that goes for ALL sides...

[Blaster_Master]

Thats so weird. I have all 3 consoles and my 360 is the only console I never had to send in for repairs. I have friends that get the RROD every year though. Maybe its because I install all my games now and rarely use my disc drive at all to get my 360 hot?

[Syronicus]

Too many RROD's for me. I recently put together a PC that will handle the games "exclusive" to the 360. I was just getting tired of the shoddy quality of the 360's.

[joemayo76]

for all systems, but i'm sure some ppl will get a kick out of these results.

Altho my 360 broke down 4 times (once its rrod out of the box MSFT sent back to me) but as for bad CS i dunno, i think its also partly on the consumer when dealing with these situations on the phone. the 4th time mine rrod (which was when it did out of the box). i called up CS and asked to speak to a manager (not in a pissed off kinda way) he was a good guy, i think his name was shawn or something, anyways i told him my situation and he gave me his direct office number so if it ever happened again to call that number and he'd be more then happy to help me out and toss in a freebie (dunno what tho?) since then i haven't had any probs with my 360 and play the hell out of it but still have that number in my wallet just incase.

But yea just keep in mind that calling in pissed off or anything won't really get you anywhere. How many of us worked in CS and had to deal with angry ppl that try to hold us personally responsible for a defect or w/e that as CSRs had nothing to do with.

[TheBlackSmoke]

To be honest that number really is not surprising, for me anyway it is literally like 1 in 2 people i know has had a RROD. Its at the point now where you almost have to accept you will get the RROD sooner or later.

[Parapraxis]

How many here have filled out a comments form for a retail store or restaurant, etc because they were happy with their service or treatment or products?

Now, if you had bad service, poor treatment or poor quality products do you think you'd be more likely to fill out a form?

customer service surveys always lean on the more negative side.

[King_many_layers]

5,000 people is hardly going to be that accurate... it's like saying 1 in 3 people get cancer.... so out of myself and 2 people in the room with me, One will get cancer. Yet, none of them get it throughout their life. you see where I'm going ??

You can't get a Small percentage of an overall large number and expect to get results that truly reflect the situation.

Also, can I just ask Live payers who have had their's brake down.. If it is true like some have said that you have waited up to a month for it to be repaired... do they give you the price of a months membership off the years subscription ??

[UnwanteDreamz]

For the record I agree that these numbers seem inflated.

[Aclay]

I'm going to have to call B.S. on this article because the PS3's failure rate defiantly isn't that high. This was a survey conducted to 5,000 people, and 5,000 people doesn't really represent the MILLIONS of people that own PS3's, 360's and Wii's and their REAL failure rates.

The 360's failure rate is probably a little below 20% by now, and from what I've read on the internet, both the PS3 and Wii failure rate shouldn't be more than a few percent.

[gaffyh]

@1.11 - You are incredibly stupid. Your argument can be used for PS3 as well:

- Best Games (Uncharted, Ratchet, Killzone, Resistance, MGS4, God Of War, MAG, Socom, Warhawk, the list goes on...)
- Best controller (For everything other than shooters. DS3 is better for fighting games, racing, platformers etc.)
- Best online (Free, high up time, LAG-FREE, dedicated servers, constant supply of PSN exclusives etc.)
- Best user base (Are you kidding me? Best user base? 360 has the most racist 12 year old kids online at one time, oh wait you are 12 years old.)

Most games - irrelevant, crap games = crap. Wii has most games does it make it better?.

On top of these PS3 owners can also add, FREE services e.g. Home, Life With Playstation, Vidzone and I'm sure there's more coming.

Anyway can't be bothered arguing with a 12 year old any more...

On topic - I doubt the rate is this high, but I have had 2 failures on my 360.

[Blaze929]

....Yes becuase 5,000 readers represents all the 20+ million 360s sold -_-

[Motion]

Im on my 3rd 360...which I haven't turned on since january when i got a ps3 and built a new PC. Luckily the first one was covered by best buy and the second was covered by M$. I always wonder if they count replacement consoles in their total sales. I'm sure they would if they were getting replaced through retailers like Best Buy. I wonder what sales totals would look like if you subtracted the number of 360's best buy has replaced through their service plan from the total number of ones out in the wild.

[sak500]

Hahahahah Look at the guys claiming their friend's xbox or friend's friend's neighbour's xbox got rrod. Since looking at agrees/disagrees clearly shows this site is rampant with ps3 lovers whether they own one or not yet they are out in full force to add more fictious numbers to the pathetic article.

I went to one retailer to and to check with him whether they would send the out of warranty 360 to ms or my bro should at that very moment a guy came with a ps3 for repairs. So did he get free repairs? NO.. I would rather buy a console with a 50% failure rate which has free coverage for it for 3 years than buying an expensive Bluray player which plays games and no warranty after 3 months.

[lightningsax]

Man, so many "Best" cards are being thrown around in this argument! Let's get rid of dualisms and bring some substance into this.

People will keep buying 360's over PS3's despite the failure rate because those gamers are devoted to a much more developed social experience in their games. They're the new generation of gamers, many of them born with the internet as a given and with social networking almost being a substitute to direct communication. Plus, since the install base had a year to grow before everyone else came around, you were more likely to find your friends on Live.

The PS3 has some amazing exclusives, much more reliable hardware, and usually ends up being a cheaper package overall than the 360. That would have been enough last generation, but Sony has been reluctant to keep up with Microsoft on its online capabilities. Hence we have many uninspired games of Fat Princess played by teams of 8 unconnected individuals. The Sony bluetooth headset is amazing, but hardly anyone has it, and those who do hardly use it.

PS3/PC owners, such as myself, can play just about every game they would like, but they won't get the (costly) social experience that they'll get with Live. That's why those consumers keep coming back. I'm totally satisfied with the games I'm getting on PS3, but I want Sony to succeed solely because if the PS3 US install base grows, there will be more people that I know on an in-person basis that will be on PSN.

[na2ru1]

If the total sales figures WERE inflated, just makes you really wonder who actually is the one in 3rd place.

[mephixto]

These numbers are right, remember this is a poll from Game Informer most of their subscribers are hardcore gamers who play a lot of hours.

[prunchess]

you totaly hit the nail on the head there! This is without a doubt why the 360 still survives and sells. One thing is for sure though and that is that a large number of 360 owners will resent this with future generations of MS\xbox hardware.

The 360 failure rate is scandalous! It's embarrassing for 360 owners that have to replace their hardware multiple times. (They should be well compensated by MS for this and their loyalty to the 360) I've got friends that wont even mention that their 360 has broke down again out of embarrassment because if it was any other product they would have given up on it long ago not quitely gone off and purchased another.

Once you've built up your friends list and regularly play online with them it's hard to move over to another console. This will start to change for those that have dual consoles (360 and PS3). Eventually they'll migrate to the hardware that lasts the longest.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

both you and Parapraxis.

This sample is likely not representative of consumers as whole, but likely only those who have Gameinformer subscriptions - hardcore gamers, maybe predominantly XBox owner.

Still the magnitude of these percentages relative to one another is still very telling.

[SaberEdge]

Surveys like this are inherently unreliable. Imagine if they did a survey of the N4G user base, does anybody believe that we would get accurate results from such a survey? I don't think so. I think the survey would show around 75% of the user base claiming that they have had 9 RRODs or some other ridiculously high number.

The sad fact is, we don't have any reliable source for the actual percentage of 360s, PS3s and Wiis that fail. We really don't. People make guesses, but that's all they are. Unfortunately, the console wars have muddled everything up. You can't take the word of a stranger on the internet. Are they being sincere or are they a fanboy trying to make the other console look bad? You can never know.

[masterg]

For me it's 100%. 3 consoles all died of RRoD.

The first I had bough on Ebay with no invoice. It died after six months.
The second died right after I got it.
The last one a month ago a week after the warrenty expired.
No more for me.

[masterg]

@Blaze929

Most polls you read about on anything has 1000 people or less in them.
5000 is a big number for any poll. A poll with the right demographic with 100 people will usually hit within 5% of the correct number.

[Kaneda]

It should be 100%.. everyone I know that own a 360 got RROD. Even one guy his wife won't let him plays games that much either. He still got RROD.

[silenius]

but i guess im one of the lucky guys i guess...
i own an XBOX 360 3 years now... and it NEVER had o mulfunction... :D

[duplissi]

wow, that seems a little far fetched if you ask me, but even so it has me worried, i just bought a resident evil elite 2 months ago - i think its a jasper (can someone confirm this for me?) i thought microsoft was finally getting the rrod under control......

[beardpapa]

Frankly, I believe 5000 people is adequate enough to use as a sample size in their statistic. Not sure what statistical test they used though.

[Poopface the 2nd]

alot of people buy one knowing about the failures. Mine hasnt broken yet as I sold my old one.

Do you people honestly think a company will want to release faulty hardware after seeing what happened with the 360. \

Im pretty sure Microsoft would rather not spend 1-2 billion fixing consoles. maybe they knew it was a problem but I doubt they knew how bad it would really be.

Im sure they would rather have reliable hardware as they have to pay for alot more than just 1-10 360 like you or I would have too.

Im not saying what they did is a good thing, Im just saying you would have to be retarded of you think microsoft doesnt care if their next console is a faulty as the 360.

[el zorro]

Wow, so many 360 bashers in this article. Why am I not surprised.

So, if this survey is correct, more than 10% of all PS3s fail.

I personally think all of these numbers are off, but I will say that I would take a console with a 50% failure rate that has a solid 3 year warranty over a console with a 10% failure rate that has a crappy warranty.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

And yet it still outsells the PS3 2 to 1, and lets not forget the 10% for the PS3 when most PS3 fansboys claimed it was below 1%.

[MGSR THE HD VERSION]

"Xbox 360 Failure Rate is 54.2 Percent, Game Informer Finds "

and people still buy 360s, and they will continue to do so.

[Anon1974]

I am somewhat skeptical of these numbers. Both Nintendo and Sony say failure rates are less than 1%, and retailer data backs this up (the majority of defective hardware is returned to the store first)

I know going back a bitthere was an EA employee that said half their 360's had failed but this was quickly hushed up and denied by both EA and Microsoft, but I find it hard to believe that even with the new motherboards, one in two is failing - even though I'm on my 4th console myself. I thought that problem was that Microsoft doesn't fix the problem but just sends you refurbed consoles as replacements and that's why it's been so high for me.

[cmrbe]

this is the failure rate amongst the hardcore users. The actual average should still be similar to numbers reported earlier.

[ultimolu]

Poopface, nobody's making anyone feel guilty about owning a 360. The fact of the matter is that instead of arguing with PS3 fans, you guys should be demanding that Microsoft gets to the root of this problem.

How long is it now, three to four years already and this is still an ongoing issue?!

[indysurfn]

Let me get this straight, you have 40% ps3 19% wii fanboys voteing on xbox360 failure rates.
You created on purpose a wrong rate of failure. It's like asking a Lutheran to rate the Catholic religion, It's like asking a republican to rate a democrate, it's like asking Satan to rate Jesus. Of course your going to get negative and irrational hysteric results!

[MNicholas]

so the numbers can't be considered accurate. Still, it does suggest two things:

1) the 360 is quite possibly the most poorly designed and manufactured piece of consumer electronics devices ever sold anywhere
2) nearly 97% of 360 owners have shockingly low expectations for quality, performance and value

[ThanatosDMC]

Fool me once... shame on you. Fool me five times in a row... [insert idiotic comment here].

[shingo]

not surprised honestly.

i know someone who's on his 8th 360!! you heard that guys?? 8th!!!!

[cryymoar]

Here's a photographic representation of the real amount of units out there that are working.
http://i26.tinypic.com/27x2...

[FreestyleBarnacle]

Is it not simply possible that all the numbers are high because of the type of people who would fill in this type of survey? If I had had one of these machines fail on me I would be more inclined to tell people about it than if I had had a generally fine experience. Not being a fanboy just being human. People are capable of it you know.

[Blackfrican]

6 xbox 360s no RROD yet!
According to these statistics, there was only a 2.5351% chance of this happening to me!

[y0haN]

If you increase the time window to something like 5 years, the failure rate will be over 95% I guarantee it.

[GameGambits]

I felt bad for my buddy who has had to have his repaired 3 times now. He games everyday for FFXI on it, because his laptop isn't made for gaming. He's on a bit of a budget too so if he were to get a desktop he'd want the best money could get since he's a smidge elitist in that sense. Without his crack addiction game he comes over to my place just to do some games with me lol.

Honestly though my 360 has been working fine since I got it almost 2 years ago. It does however make a ton of noise and heats the room up a solid 360 degrees. I've had to get a 2nd headset and a 2nd controller though since accessories to Microsoft must be another means to keep cashing in by making cheap ones. My current controller takes forever to charge when hooked in, and when it finally reaches green to go it only lasts for maybe an hour at best before it's flashing to be recharged.

I already learned my lesson this generation about Microsoft and how they run their gaming business. When the next Xbox does hit I'm going to wait 2-3 years before picking it up I'm afraid. Once they iron out enough kinks from it is when I'll be on board to invest. For those who think they will learn from this generation you are naive, since they haven't learned anything this generation as new SKU's come out other than how to keep grabbing your cash.

Sony since PS1 makes stuff that I have had no problems with ever. They go for quality and give you every pennies worth. Nintendo I'd say does too, but I did have a N64 controller stick just break somehow one day. Plus we all remember NES days of blowing into cartridges to make them work lol.

Next gens order of consoles for me will be Sony,Nintendo, Xbox. This gen was Nintendo, Xbox, Sony...bad choice, but I have all 3 now so it's all good. :)

[ps3d0]

This is EXTREMELY flawed. One they cant even be sure anyone actually owned said the system they said they did. 2 they did not look at systems to make sure these people are being trueful. Plus they ask 5000 readers aka gamers and fanboys. I can promise you that 360 dont still have 50% fail rate. Plus when did the PS3 jump up to a 10% fail rate ? Sony bragged about have less then 1% fail rate what happen to that ?

If they want to check the fail rate they should of went out to the store and buy 5000 of each system and tested them.

[kyiren]

need to minus the dead 360's and then get a real # for total world wide. they may have sold over 30 mill but how many are dead units.

by the #'s half are dead so only around 15 mill working, I would say the ps3 is got more working units world wide.

[AAACE5]

I can't argue, the 360 has/had a problem with hardware failure. On the same note, their survey is based off of just 5,000 people, compared to millions of 360 owners.

Not trying to defend it in any way, but in one of my college classes I was told to not rely on the results of surveys too much. You could read an article tomorrow that says that eating peanuts kills 63% of the people who eat them. Then in the fine print, it will say that the survey was based on a study of 259 people. More importantly, a majority of those people didn't know they were allergic to peanuts and had a reaction to them.

Like I said, I am not trying to cover for them in any way because I have had a few go out on me as well, but statistics only tell part of the story!

[Pika-pie]

360 & PS3 both seem alot higher than I thought. Dont think that 1 in 10 ps3s fail other wise Sony would be getting hammered just like MS. Last I heard it was more like this.

360 35%
PS3 3%

[tripewire]

Beh. These numbers are usless. Of the people I know 360 failure rate is around 85-90% (I know about 2 people who have never had problems) and PS3-wii I'll say <1% because of all the people who own wii's and/or ps3's NONE of them have broken. Sure, None of them actually play their wii's but hey...

[TheTwelve]

...they actually managed to get people to want and desire crap. Repeatedly. Now that's good marketing.

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[spooky205]

as much as i would love to say my 360 has been bulletproof in the 2 years i have owned it, i simply cant. i have encountered freezing on my games for about a couple of days then poof fixed again. this has happened 3 times in a 2 year span. it doesnt make me feel any better when i hear terrible stories about MS losing consoles or replacing consoles numerous times.

[Nitrowolf2]

where did GI get there info from?
all those number seem to allot higher since before
54.2? that is a bit to big, i mean that half a chance a 360 will rrod on me. wtf that should not happen

@below, didn't see that 5000 reader part, but is that truly accurate?

360 54.2 percent failure rate, compared to 10.6 percent for the PS3 and the Wii's 6.8 percent.

those number are from GI survey

[Parapraxis]

Did you bother to read the article? They did a survey of readers of the mag.

And yes, it's baffling...but to be honest a 1 in 3 chance is not much better than a 1 in 2. (apparently people disagree and think 1 in 3 chance of failure is acceptable?)

EDIT: It's as accurate as any survey can be. Take it with a grain of salt, but like I said above, similar numbers have been cited before.
Similar numbers:
http://gamer.blorge.com/200...

[Nitrowolf2]

ok now that one was almost 70% and was 08.
i call those number BS

[Parapraxis]

Not saying they are true, just pointing out the numbers HAVE been claimed to be that high, there's also many claims that the rate is around 16%, 30% and 33%.
There's probably no way to know for sure unless MS itself released numbers.

How could there be such different numbers... here's one possibility.

Survey A asks "have you had your 360 break? YES ___ NO ___

Survey B asks "have you had your 360 break? YES ___ NO ___
Survey B asks "how many times have you had your 360 break? ____

[Pennywise]

Keep buying this system guys!! It will show MS quality control is no issue! /s

I think a recall, a class action law suite and a boycott should be in order for this failure of hardware.

This is why I do not own one. Please spin this and tell me I am wrong. I need a good laugh today.

[Mr_Bun]

I'll spin it:

The 360 completely dominated the PS3 and wii with respect to defective rates!

[phadox]

I was an early adopter of the pstriple, 20gb and within 4 months blu-ray no longer read discs, cool under warranty no problem. 6 months after my warranty expired on my refurb they sent back, i get ylod (yellow light of death) currently on my third ps3, forgot to mention still on my first sexbox360. point being, why should we have to suffer mercilessly at the hands of the console tyrants pushing sub-par performing machines out, there should be a class action lawsuit or a mandatory 4 year warranty across the board. WAAARR!!!! gamers

[Pennywise]

phadox, my friends bluray stopped playing. He was past his warranty date. I got a torque screw, opened his PS3 up(like fort knox) and hit his Bluray laser with a soft cloth and alcohol. Put it back together and it worked perfectly.

Sometimes the lens gets dirty... that is not faulty.

[tripewire]

Sucks if its true, but from my experience you would have to be an unlucky mofo to have two ps3's fail on you.

[Masamori Sumimura]

they interviewed 5000 people and they make the conclusion for eveybody?

rrod is a problem indeed but it's not at 54.2% world wide.Its somewhere around 30%

[Baka-akaB]

Oh irony . You too are making the conclusion for everybody here , that isnt isnt as high . And without even a survey or stats

Truth is very few if any people might actually know the real numbers . it could be lower but could even be higher .

The only sure thing is that it's too fragile .

[Masamori Sumimura]

agree.

[Qazdaz]

You interview 0 people and you make a conclusion for everyone?

[Nitrowolf2]

yah but the conclusion can easily be applied to probality of the number of system bought will be defective.

@below

fine fair enough, how about a survey of a number allot bigger then that. Most surveys would usually go above 500 people. 5000 people would be a more reasonable number to compare. i mean i remember a colgate commercial that was taken down becuase they said this" 1 out of 10 dentist recommened colgate, guess how many they surveyed? only 10 people, that why it was taken down. Plus it would be more accurate if they did this survey again and then compare those numbers.

[Masamori Sumimura]

is that so?

I could interview all of my friends tha own a xbox and guess what?

none of them came across the rrod.

so would that mean that the failure rate is inexistent? no it would not.

let's say I interview 5000 people who all got their xbox from 2005 launch they'd have bigger chance of coming across the rrod. would that mean the failure rate is 57% worldwide? no.

[Pennywise]

Funny thing is, if I interviewed all of my local friends that own an xbox 360, the % would be 100. Some are on #3 or 4.

[Qazdaz]

'Your friends' doesn't exactly equal 5000 people in a professional survey does it?

[Masamori Sumimura]

oh?

So those 5000 people out of 31 Millions who Own a Xbox360 are enough to say that 57% of xbox suffers Rrod?

what kind of logic is that?

In the present case. Yes its 57% but let's not say that it's the case World wide.

I could Interview another 5000 bach and find that their Failure rate was 25% . etc etc.

you get what I mean?

edit: @ baka.

I know the rrod is a problem its not good. but im just saying. anyways good talking with ya on this one but I onyl got 1 bubble left.

[Baka-akaB]

Again it could be lower or higher . There simply isnt any accurate way to know . it just so happens that the issue is so widespread that we know it got a high failure rate ...

The rest is just stats wich have never been worth anything . It's obvious not every 360 owner will be interrogated (hell i never had any issue with 360 so far , thought it's far from my most used console) , and it's even more obvious that you can't trust any numbers from Microsoft (it's not a fanboy thing , it's the same with Sony and nintendo , or any company ) .

Everyone lies about their own numbers or twists real figures and numbers into something positive or useful to them

[Qazdaz]

Everyone buys there 360 at different times and has it under different conditions, and unless these 5000 people and bought theirs one the same day and use it the same way then this is probably the best survey you'll get.

[Baka-akaB]

There is also something else to consider in this day and age of fanboy war bs ... people lies .. a lot .

Polls , stats , and the worst kind of all , analysis predictions , are as accurates as going to a medium . They tell you what you want to hear .

[GarandShooter]

This survey is crap. How do we know that the respondants even own the console they claim broke? With the level of fanboyism these days, who's to say that a 360 only owner didn't respond that his PS3 broke or vice versa? I'm sure they received some honest answers, but these results, actual percentage wise, need to be taken with a grain of salt. This is more an item of curiousity for readers of the magazine than a legitimate survey.

[beardpapa]

Your logic is horrible. By how you think, it must mean statistical tests our economists use and the sh1t we learn in economics class must not apply to real life applications. Cuz by your statement, it's implying that the results from statistical tests (tests that some bored economist in doctorate school probably magically conjured up after a night of paper/pencil D&D) are quite baffling! Baffling enough we shouldn't believe or agree with them!

Well... in Pachter's case I can understand. =D

[timestoby]

even if currnet 360s dropt so much i still wouldnt buy one cause of rrod. id rather wait till a hardware refresh. i still dont get why people still buy these things when eventually in a few years they will die.then people complain about ms and there ways,but yet people still buy there shiite and put up with it

[no_more_trolling]

im complaining about your spelling

[MetalGearBear]

LOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!
RROD FTW!!!!!!!!!!

[blackbeld]

Xbox 360 is garbage comfirmed!!!

[Chubear]

Dude last year I found out from consumer watch Dog groups in EU and NA that the 360 has a failure rate in it's first 18months on the market of roughly 68% - Madness! How the hell do people support $*%! like this is beyond me.

[Alcon Caper]

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[Crazyglues]

54.2 percent... OUCH!!! Is it just me or is that a crazy high number.

so out of the 31 million units 360 sold, half of them where bad... wow

[TheBlackSmoke]

In before .. " buh buh my friends uncles dad had a PS3 YLOD therefore i just proved teh PS3 fails just as much as teh 360 lolz "

[Darrius Cole]

Again, this is an incomplete number. We need to know a time period to go with this number. Is it 12 months?, 18 months?, 2 years?

Personally, I think that 54.2% 360 failure rate has to be at about 9-12 months. I say this because I don't a person who kept an Xbox for 18 months without it completely breaking. Here I define completely breaking as "the 360 will no longer play a game at all." This does not count the 360's that scratch all the games that you put in it.

[Etseix]

according to this
16,260,000 of the so called 30 million user base of the Failbox 3s*hittsty got theyr console FIXED , LMAO!

i say it once and will say it again

XBOX'S HARDWARE (NOT SOFTWARE U FANBOYS), HAS MADE OF ITSELF THE WORST GAMING CONSOLE OF THIS GENERATION.

[AngryTypingGuy]

This is based on a poll, which I'm sure many fanboys answered falsely. Did you guys even read the article? They said that these numbers are probably exaggerated.

Personally, I think all of the failure rates are higher than they truly are. I don't believe the PS3 failure rate is above 10% like the article suggests, and I don't think that the Wii failure rate is 6%.

Do you guys honestly think that 1/10 PS3s fail? I don't. Likewise, I think the 360 numbers are high as well. Even the early 360 didn't die that much. The number we've heard time and again over the years is 30-33%. And the newer 360s are way more reliable.

[50CALheadshot]

hahaha mad funny.

when will the f@ggs that buy this piece of feces ever learn?

u know whats really funny, that when take 10 did a poll it backfired on them. this poll hasnt. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLZZZZ

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

And it still outsells the PS3 while the PS3 hugs that last place ribbon around its neck :D

[el zorro]

I love how all the PS3 fanboys are latching onto the Xbox 360 number, but completely ignoring the fact that according to this survey the PS3 fails more than 10% of the time. That to me is also a crappy failure rate.

What's more, the 360 actually has a good warranty, the PS3 doesn't.

Personally, I would take a console with a 50% failure rate with a great 3 year warranty over a console with a 10% failure rate with a crappy warranty.

[topdawg122]

wow, they say only 3.8% of xbox owners would never buy an xbox again because of hardware failure? Thats sad i guess im part of that percentage. over 50% failure rate is insane and theres no way i can support a crap sysytem like that even if it does have good games. Three year warranty is up, what you gonna do after that? this is insane that people still support this crap

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

...66%??? ;-D
I will NEVER get it, because i will NEVER buy a xBox 360 ;)
(And NO i won't be missing out on anything, PS3 is all i need. If i want any xBox 360 games i'll get them for my P.C) ;-D

[ultimolu]

...I'm glad I bought a PS3, lol.

[OmarJA]

LMFO! at the bots tying to spin this...

So priceless. :D

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Honestly, I think the 360 failure rate is about 30%. I know, because I fix them by pulling of the X-clamps and cleaning of the heat syncs(which is easier than you'd imagine). It is such a simple procedure I can't imagine why MS overlooked this flaw in their design. I must repair about 10-15 360s a week, and all that from a single ad on Craigslist and word of mouth.

[likedamaster]

I still wouldn't trade my 360 for anything in the world. Thanks Microsoft, although the RRoD still somewhat plagues us, well with the old systems still in circulation, I know next gen or a revised 360 will bring us the reliability we've been waiting for.

[Pistolero]

There is no way you can trust this because any reader was able to respond to the survey...whether they are a PS3 fanboy or 360 fanboy...and of course fanboys lie...all the time. Whatever the truth may be, all I know is that my 360 has not given me any problems and it is my favorite system...if I did get the RROD...oh well, I would just send it in and get it fixed. Next time I am sure Microsoft will have a really reliable system...like the original Xbox. I've been hearing more and more people reporting problems with their PS3s...I wish we knew what the actual percentages for both systems are.

[bennyace]

So i dont really care if the xbox360 fails a higher rate than the ps3. what i think is alarming is why if it's such a peace of cr@p that not more people switch to the ps3 and buy another xbox360 when the one they have fails? and please dont hide behind fanboys comments like "because all the xbots are stupid" or "it's too expensive wait 'till the price drops" if after the price drop nothing changes will that mean that the ps3 will always remain in 3rd place. because so far no big AAA games as managed to give the ps3 any momentum.

[Obama]

@bennyace

It's like asking why ppl voted for Bush twice in a row despise the fact that he is a failure. The masses are stupid period.

[killersmoke]

I had 10,000 of my fans tell me that there ps3 failed and number came out to 69% of ps3 fail. do to the lame a-- article with bias numbers or made up numbers by a ps3 fanboy.

this site is full of g-y a-- ps3 fanboys choking on each others cQcks, anytime a story full of bullsh-t hits the air.

real creditable source, why are all of you so f-cking stupid? answer that.,,,,........

THE TRUTH PS3 WILL LOSE AND M$ HAS SECOND LOCKED IN A CHOKE HOLD WITH DEVELOPERS AND BY MARKETING STRATEGY.

SONY POSTING HUGH LOSES. HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[wxer]

HERE WE GO

this place well be full in seconds

[silverchode]

gameinformer are ps3 fanboys, jk

[Shaka2K6]

Not news at all.

[killersmoke]

BLAH BLAH BLAH,, RROD, NOT A PROBLEM, JASPER HAS FIXED THE PROBLEM. HAVE TWO, ONE WITH JASPER, ONE WITH FALCON CHIP......

NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.....

[IRetrouk]

killersmoke are you f..king joking or are you just retarded, my last 2 xboxes that got replaced were the new chipsets, falcon and jasper are just as bad i know because i have had to get them fixed kids like you and i mean kids cause your probs about 14 or 15 are the problem you dnt see the real issues here you just talk alot of sh.t and hope other little boys like you will agree with you so that you can go on pretending that daddy and mommy didnt just buy you the worst console in history for reliability and because it was cheaper than the ps3, you cant afford one and neither can your parents,so dont hate the peps that can buy a ps3 which buy the way is 20 pound cheaper than what it cost to get a 360 a year after launch.

[FlipMode]

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[pure pwnage24]

but, but, teh sales will save us all!!! xD bots keep buying a failing console with no exclusives

[Shaka2K6]

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[killersmoke]

YEA ONE OF THE RICHEST COMPANIES EVER, GARBAGE.....

FLIPMODE = FAIL FOR BEING A COMPLETE DOUCHE, AGREEING WITH A DOUCHE ARTICLE MAKES YOU THE COMPLETE DOUCHE AS ALL OF YOU ON THIS POST......

[table]

Holy Jebus. Probably under-estimated aswell... ;)

[SIX]

Put it this way, out of 7 of my friends and relatives only 1 has not red ringed. Based on this, I believe the number is much higher.

[Captain Tuttle]

That PS3 failure rate must be well over 10%.

[LevDog]

As much as I hate 360 I think that number is high.. But............. Out of all my friends that own a 360 (all the rest are ps3 owners).. Which is only 10 of them.. All of them have experienced the Red ring... The last one being my co worker that moved from New York to here (Cali).. and he had a launch 360.. So out of my friends its 100%.. But that could be chance.. 54% on a world wide base.. Would be just insane if True.. and if true.. makes me feel wonderful for passing on 360 and Getting what I paid for in PS3..

[Omega4]

"The most shocking number from the survey — and frightening from a consumer perspective — is only 3.8 percent of Xbox 360 owners said they'd never buy another Xbox because of hardware failure."

Thats not surprising considering its played the most, you wouldnt want to give up your most enjoyable hobby so easily

[LevDog]

Thats true.. buy why buy the same name brand product of your hobby if it is breaking all the time??? For example.. If you kept buying a lets say.. Matel radio controlled car and it broke, then replaced broke... then bought a new one broke.. Wouldnt you buy a different brand by then? Your still enjoying your hobby, but just with a different name brand.. a more reliable name brand..

[red2tango]

all i have to say is:

lmfao

[xg-ei8ht]

54%, 30%

That's still a massive issue.

Now 360 owners try telling me that your supposedly 7million lead isn't poor because.

A: 1 year head start
B: Numerous sales because of rrod, people buying extra 360 expecting the worst.

ouch.

Come on, Spin it guys.

[Silellak]

There's nothing to spin. Of course the 360 is ahead of the PS3 because it came out first. Anyone who claims otherwise is just wrong. The real question is - who cares if it's in the lead because it came out first? That's just the way business works.

As for people actually buying replacement 360's? There's no solid evidence either way, just fanboy speculation. Still, if people are actually buying replacements, rather than taking advantage of the free replacement warranty, that's their own stupid decision.

[pumpkinpunker]

Microsoft fixes RROD or E74 free of charge and even pays for shipping.

1 out of 10 PS3s break and Sony charges $150 to fix each one.

Spin that.

[asyouburn]

dude, i work at a used game shop, and we also do console repair, and 99.9 percent of the ps3 repairs we get are laser replacement, which parts and labor costs about 40 bucks and takes ten minutes. that is a far cry from rrod or e74 which is "total hardware malfunction" its like the difference between stubbing your toe and breaking your foot.

[Parapraxis]

"1 out of 10 PS3s break and Sony charges $150 to fix each one.

Spin that. "
hmm now how could that be spun..maybe because that statement is completely false.
http://www.us.playstation.c...
All PS3's are covered for 1 year, just like most other electronics. Paying 150$ only happens after that warranty expires.

consider yourself owned.

[ThatArtGuy]

isn't "1 out of 10" PS3's.

[Raoh]

LMFAO

[read disc error]

Microsoft and their 3 year warranty aside, I would still be pretty nervous if I had a PS3 for more than a year. 10% failure rate is bad and is only being ignored because of the RROD fiasco which is really bad. If your console is going to break then odds are it's after you had it at least a year.

360 may have a really bad failure rate and it's inconvenient but no one, including myself, has had to pay a cent getting it fixed.

@asyouburn

RROD is crazy easy to repair and if you weren't lying about being in console repair you would know this. or maybe you're just bad at your job. Go youtube RROD Fix.

[pcn88]

If the problem was so simple, why didn't MS fix it after 4 years?

[asyouburn]

i have only been working here for about 3 years, so i dont know everything, but i wouldnt call what you're doing a rrod "fix" you can get in there and scrub off thermal paste, and change all the screws you want, but its not gonna fix the cause of the problem. it will continue to overheat and kill itself no matter how many times you try to fix it. we actually quit working on the 360 b/c almost all of the ones we fixed ended up coming back at some point. not even half of our fixes were red ring. most are disc read errors, video card issues, both of which arent covered for three years. i really dont care what system you play, im just commenting on the experiences i had with the machine.

[firezone]

And the Fanboy wars rage on... My goodness, over 54%?! Mercy me!!

[wxer]

"The most shocking number from the survey - and frightening from a consumer perspective - is only 3.8 percent of Xbox 360 owners said they'd never buy another Xbox because of hardware failure."

now in here i really LOLed

i mean i got an xbox

got the RROD tow times
but i have it up tell now
because
a) i got alot of xbox games
b) still under warranty

but if i didn't got games or warranty

hell im not buying something thats gona break again and again

my PS3 and wii still working as new

[LevDog]

Makes sense.. But I bet alot of your games you dont play.. I bet you could get your refurbished 360 back from MS.. Go to gamestop and Trade in all those games and 360 and get a Ps3..

The only real argument for not going to Ps3 would be online friends.. unless most of them had both Ps3 and 360.. you would be starting over with online friends.. Kind of a double edged sword.. Start over with new friends or keep playing with the old ones on a system that breaks frequently..

EDIT>> I know.. I meant to say thats probably the same problem alot of people have.. breaking 360 but alot of games and online friends.. My fault for not saying that

[wxer]

i do got a PS3

[No_NaMe]

But not better than Nintendo !!

It only took me 2 weeks to repair my 360...

Sony took 3 months...

WTF ?

LOL

[The-Warranty]

Your Probably Lying

[Darkeyes]

Boy talk about licking M$es @ss @No... My friends PS3 broke and it only took a week to replace it....

A lot of my friends have had RROD and sometimes it takes less than a month, but most times it takes approx a month to get a replacement... One of my friend waited a month for replacement and the refurbished one RRODed out of the box... Boy I have never heard someone swear at an employee so much in my life..

[Static-X]

Thats how a dumbass bot spins it
<<<<<<

[RGB]

@ 5 - no name

your are the biggest piece of BS ever, i live in the UK. Microsoft wouldn't replace my brother's 360 but luckily for him GAME did. on the other hand SONY replaced my first broken PS3 in 4 days, so STFU. my second PS3 broke last week and is currently being repaired by TotalConsoleRepair.com under my GAMECARE deal.

no name = BULLSH!T.

[el zorro]

My 360 has never had a problem, but the people that I know that did have a problem got it back within two weeks. I have heard it take much longer to get a PS3 fixed. It probably depends where you are at in the world.

[RGB]

"my second PS3 broke last week and is currently being repaired by TotalConsoleRepair.com under my GAMECARE deal."

sorry, it's TotalConsoleRepair.co.uk

my mistake.

[Guitardr85]

WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP BUYIG THESE?!?!?! WAKE UP!!!

[Silellak]

Because it has a really great line-up of solid games? Because the failure rate, while still unacceptably high, is lower than it used to be, and the console is free to repair when it DOES break down?

[Nitrowolf2]

i thought 33% was the failure rate before?

[Guitardr85]

I just think its sad that even a 33% failure rate is acceptable in our society regardless of how many games it may have. This is just sad that companies know people are such idiots as to buy something they KNOW will break! The consumer just got knocked down a notch in my book...congratulations people...This is acceptable because you LET it be!!!

[redbadger]

I am definitely NOT buying a 360 cause of this article. I did not realize the failure rate was so high and the customer service was THIS bad. I will put my money towards ps3 exclusives instead. Sorry M$ but maybe next time.

[Henry Cain]

I don't know if these numbers are true, but if they are how can M$ and the fans of the system continue to claim they have the best system on the market?

[monkfish]

my 360 broke but was under 3 years warranty and i did use that a lot as i had completed over 35 games on it and did a fair ammount of online gaming as well.It was sent back when 2.5 years after working it died. It took a couple of weeks but i got a working replacement thats still going strong. I also got given an elite that suffered a dodgy anna chip but this was also soon rectified with a new mother board. Im not here to spin the results as lets be honest we all know that the 360 has reliability problems.
However i dont expect consoles to last forever and my first ps2 lasted 4 years but in those 4 years probably had about the same ammount of use as my first 360. The 3 year warranty is in place to cover the rrod and anna chip problem so at least they do fix for free with those issues.
But would i stay away from the next xbox console? no.....i expect the next xbox will be the most bullit proof over tested piece of hardware they can make for fear of a repeat. And if it isnt then they deserve to fail.

how many of you own a ps3 and had a ps2 fail on you? lots i bet.

However if by now your on your 10th 360 then i think its time to give up lol. When the enjoyment from using it is bourdened by the constant fear of it dying then its perhaps as good as time as any to switch.

[-EvoAnubis-]

I have a launch PS3 console. It's never had issues.

My original PS2 got the dreaded disk thing. I fixed it, and later gave it away to buy a PS2 slim model.

[asyouburn]

microsoft spend any money at all on testing a new machine when time and time again consumers have shown them that reliability is a non issue?

[free3sixty]

cool too see how a 50% failure rate console is destroying the perfect PS3rd, lol!

[The-Warranty]

Destroying? it barely outsells it at 200 cheaper

[LTC]

The reason MS has sold close to 30 million 360s is because of RROD replacements.

[Nitrowolf2]

yah thats probaly becuase the 50% of those defective 360 owners decided to go out and buy a new one.

[saimcheeda]

Teh sales!!!

[TheBlackSmoke]

Bots keep thinking the 360 is ahead because its a better system #LOL# when its actually only to do with the price difference and thats all there is to it. Sony just hurry with this price cut so we can put the "teh sales" talk to rest. Trust me that 7 million lead is probably only a 2 or 3 million lead in reality.

[No_NaMe]

Jasper models are FINE!

Warranty :)

[Dead_Cell]

I've heard the EU body is actually looking into it again,And I would be sweating with things like this coming into the open if I was Microsoft.

[Chubear]

No, they had stopped an all out recall and severe punitive penalties AND potential consumer lawsuits when they struck a deal to extend the 360 warranty to 3 yrs which ran them rough a billion dollars in the hole.

When MS did that 3yr warranty you think it was from the goodness of their hearts or something? lol They were denying ANY major problems for almost well over a year.

[Dead_Cell]

Warranties are up and the problem still isn't fixed,the three years was a hold off agreement.

[Nelson M]

You Buy a 3Shitsty and there is a 50% chance of the Contraption Blowing up
I Like them Odds
Thy Silly Little set of RRoD Loving BoTs

[Simon_Brezhnev]

whats funny is game informer is more of an xbox fanboy magazine lmao

[Etseix]

lol indeed, im still waiting for the *xbot of the sales* to come and say that *the sales the sales!!*

prepare xfanboys, this girl just got mad and will hunt down ur a$$es

http://www.n4g.com/News-359...

[firezone]

in here.... The Fan wars rage on. But tell me, 54%? that's just insane... I'll stick to the black behemoth

[TheMART]

Don't know... My 360 is still going strong, while my PS3 got a dead BluRay after just 3 weeks of use.

So the PS3 breaks around 11% in this survey. Strange, the SDF fantards always told me its less then 1%...

[Tinted Eyes]

but still....

54%>11%

[Stryfeno2]

If both PS3 and 360 breaks on the consumer, he/she would not care if 54%>11%.

[Gue1]

... >_>

[Noob]

Feel better now?

[Saaking]

Sure mart sure. Perhaps your PS3 couldn't take living with a retard and self destructed.

[The_Beast]

he's probably like patchstation. he laughs at sony products

[GrandDragon]

In true XBot spirit TheMART (Xbox clown) saved all he could for over 2 years in his 9 to 5 shift JUST to purchase a PS3 and then mingle with its sophisticated Blue-ray mechanism.

You are as desperate as they come XD

So the XBOX 360 breaks around 54.2% in this survey of 5000 people!!! Strange, the Xbot buddies always told me its less then 33.3%...

Even at fanboyism the Xbox managed to FAIL at distorting the results!

[DanteLinkX]

those numbers are wrong, the probabilities of 360 dying is 100%, no one has ever had a 360 for more than 2-2.5 years without it failing. And no one will, because that machine, blatantly sucks.

Oh, and thanks to 360 we can all have our chats about "Hey dude how many 360s have you been through?" like if it was talking about girlfriends. Most people are "Oh I am on my 5th, 3rd, 4th, 2nd" etc etc, also there is always this SoaB that says "I am on my first, I take good care of it unlike you guys" then next week, he passes that "first one" tittle to someone new in the convo lol.

[monkfish]

everything has a 100% probabilty of dying though....it just depends how long it takes to do that. I am starting to see i bigger increase in broken ps3's on ebay.
I do however beleive the ps3 to be more reliable than the 360 but its early days for all as yet. i remember all the dre problems with the ps2 didnt happen untill about 3 or 4 years.

[pumpkinpunker]

What I've noticed is that Sony has big problems with durability of their electronics.

My Bravia HDTV broke after 3 1/2 years and for the price Sony quoted to fix it I bought a new non-Sony HD TV instead. I went through 3 pairs of Sony headphones in one year. I guarantee that the 10% failure rate will go up pretty steadily as people own their PS3s for more than 2-3 years.

[greatjimbo78]

@DanteLinkX

You're an idiot!, that’s not the first word I used.. that word rhymes with hunt, and guess what? I was actually allowed to post it, I then came to my senses and edited it to this post. By the way I still think you're the word that rhymes with hunt.

[Guitardr85]

Yeah...3-4 YEARS!!! Not 3-4 MONTHS off the assembly line before people started getting RRODs!!!

[free3sixty]

200??

the PS3d is at 300 euro in europe.. same like the elite...

And not everybody is buying the arcade tard.

Anyways.. youldnt the ps3 destroy the 360 at DAY1 in sales? i mean sony told you that!

NPD results August 2009, compared to 2008 and 2007 show, that the PS3rd sold BEST at a 599 USD price tag, and NOW with SOO MANY GAMES and MANY exclusives it sells WORST.

Just get it, nothing will help sony.. cause stand alone blu ray player are much cheaper now as 299 euro, lol!

[TheBlackSmoke]

in 2008 the PS3 sold more at this time because mgs4 had just come out. the year before that was still the launch year of the PS3 so naturally it was still selling due to the fact it was new plus the PS3 launched in europe at this time in 2007.... see what common sense does?

Oh and again the 360 sold more this npd than last year because there was no gimp deck budget version at this time last year.

BTW its July NPD.

[Serg]

How do you manage to get the idea that NPD and Europe have ANYTHING in common? No relation what so ever, NPD is just North America ONLY.

The saddest part is you even are from Europe.

The 54% failure rate is not accurate, the number is a lot higher than this. And unless you place your 360 in a fridge or live in Siberia it will RROD, but that is just one possible death it can have, not to mention all the other flaws that don't break the console, but are annoying non the less.

[SaberEdge]

Sure random internet dude, I am just going to believe you. All 360s get the RROD...SUUURE. Never mind the fact that I know people who have never had their 360s die on them after more than 3 years.

[Fiona]

Im on my 5th xbox thank u very much MS. Thats why when ppl say that xbox has an 8 million lead over ps3 i always think that there has to be quite a few ppl that buys the console again becuase of failure or some issues with the warranty.

[DanteLinkX]

A friend of mine has bought 4 xbox 360s and he says "its worth it". Fanbois do anything and everything to justify their purchase, in this case, their MANY purchases lol.

[monkfish]

are you on your fith replacement xbox or are you saying you bought 5.
either way though its still really bad. Theres always pc gaming i suppose. Mind you my pc has taken me a while to get it reliable lol.

[Stryfeno2]

If my PS3 breaks, I wont bother fixing it or buying a new one (my warranty is up). However, if my 360 does get the RROD I will fix it then sell it and buy NATAL SKU when it comes out. I couldn't picture me without a 360 this gen. That machine brought hours upon hours of entertainment.

[TheMART]

You know whats the real kicker here?

360 has 3 full years of warranty for RROD. THREE YEARS.

PS3 Sony says after 1 year in Europe you have to fork out 200 Euro and get back someone elses refurbished PS3 and get only 3 months extended warranty with it.

THATS 200 FREAKING EUROS AFTER JUST ONE YEAR, half a new PS3 to get back other 2nd hand overheated YLOD model repaired. I'd rather pay double and get a new one then...

If the 360 after 3 years give up, an Arcade is 179 Euro now (less then Sony's 200 Euro for a refurbish after just one year) and 3 years from now it'll cost something close to 100 Euro. So the replacement costs after 3 years are lower then the repair cost of a PS3 after just one year.

[xztence]

So what?

MS gave you 3 years because they knew you would be contacting them because of the RROD multiple times.
I bet there would be public outrage if you only got 1 year of warranty for a 360 with such a high percentage of failure rate.

Sony still gives 1 year even though the failure rate is nowhere near as high.

Edit @ Mart.

Really? 2.5 million huh?
According to your way of math, that makes 15 million 360(50%) users who have had a rrod by now.

Also I find it hard to believe that people would rather go for a 360 with 3 years of warranty and 50% failure rate, then a 1 year warranty with a "10%" rate.
also you cant make assumptions, how would you know if that 10% was out of warranty or not?

[TheMART]

@ zxtence

Well, SO WHAT?

Uhm, 11% of all PS3 owners, THATS ABOUT 1 OUT OF 10 OF YOU PS3 USERS, thats about 2.5 mln. users out there of the current installed base, is facked to be forced to pay 200 FREAKING EUROS for a REFURBISHED YLOD PS3 OF SOMEONE ELSE after just ONE YEAR.

ATM 2.5 MILLION PEOPLE THAT ARE FORCED TO PAY THAT. Thats insane. If you can't understand that, you have a damaged brain.

[TheBlackSmoke]

Wow so now you have resorted to defending breakdown warrantys... Shouldn't the point be that the console should not break in the first place...?

[The_Beast]

i dont even think these retards own ps3s. they pretend that it broke after 3 weeks lol.....

[Lou-Cipher]

Why are you xbot guys trying to say that a 55% failure rate is better than a 10% failure rate. Even with the 2 years longer on the warranty.

You guys have just convinced me that you are the most unintelligent people on the internet.

There is no way to spin a 55% failure rate, it is what it is. Please stop the stupidity.

[pcn88]

3 Full years was to cover their ass because they know a full blown recall, or lawsuit would kick their ass over the moon.

[insomnium]

Atleast we here in Finland (and Sweden too I think) get 2 years warranty for faulty harware (PS3). Didn't help me though since mine broke down after 2 years and 2months. I got a refubished one for 260€ and it has half the warranty the original one had (1 year).

Quit talking about Europe thinking you know the place.

[ShabzS]

although I never really bought the whole 33% failiure rate argument and even if THIS survey is only conducted from 5000 consumers off of a total of 30 million users... 54.2 % could be inaccurate and not a solid number... now while the jasper boards are less prone to the rrod .... the e74 says hi and then there's the disc read errors ... i honeslty wouldnt have bothered buying a second one if it didnt have the games... from the article:

"The most shocking number from the survey - and frightening from a consumer perspective - is only 3.8 percent of Xbox 360 owners said they'd never buy another Xbox because of hardware failure."

that one line sums it up ... no spins or arguments necessary ... if you like its library and love xbox live you'll go out and buy another one or go through the process of getting a free replacement from warranty... 360's are unreliable but the software and live is the only reason its still going on... i keep saying this ... its always always about the games...

having said that... ms better get their sh*t together next gen... they deserve every lawsuit and criticism for this crap

[Nexy]

The really shocking fact is that even with this failure rate 360 is easily winning the console war this time anyway and PS3 has no chance to catch up.

[redbadger]

Never heard of any probs with the ps3 or wii. You almost have to think here that MS has purposely made faulty hardware knowing that fans will buy another unit thus increasing their console numbers. Falcon, jasper etc don't work and are there for you to believe that MS are addressing these disasters. Which they aren't.

[monkfish]

if thats true then i guess its our fault for supporting them....but mine hasnt been to bad and despite the problems i have enjoyed owning the 360. However if i had to actually buy another out of my own money i would have to give it a lot more thought.
what suprises me is the number of people who say they have Purchased 5 or 6. unless you have multiple places you play games you would surely not keep paying out?.

[Double Toasted]

I wonder if this article will boost the sales of the PS3. Hold your breath if you think so...

[Mounce]

"only 3.8 percent of Xbox 360 owners said they'd never buy another Xbox because of hardware failure"

Goes to show how idiotic the american consumer-base is. They'll gladly bend over and take it like a bi^%h. Cause you know, investing your money in a BROKEN PRODUCT is OOOOOOKAY!

[monkfish]

to all those claiming that microsoft are the only ones with problems...you must surely all now that all 3 have issues. The 360's is to my knowledge by far the worst but theres no need to act like the wii and ps3 are 100% free of issues. As i say sony had similar issues with the ps2. Only with sites like n4g we can nowadays get our point across quicker.

[JeffGUNZ]

so than, only Americans purchase 360's and no one in your country has purchased a 360? Moron. Don't stero-type.

[rob6021]

I definitely agree that Consumers in America are getting more and more short-term minded by the day. Something that lasts is seen as less important than how flashy it is on day 1. I am an American and I don't consider myself one of the consumers following this trend, but I do see people like this on a daily basis. They're definitely out there, but all us Americans aren't that way. Some of us do use a value equation when looking at different products.

Unfortunately when you go to the store you will see or hear nothing about the rrod, or how loud the 360 is. This is stuff you have to have done research to know about. And few people do the appropriate research before buying something.

[Gamer1111]

i have 2 360 i guess GI is wrong...i got no rrod

[lowcarb]

I almost want to drop a lawsuit on MS myself for expecting me to pay to get my 360 fixed because of it overheating. Had it for 3 months and only used it for like 20 hours before getting a rrod. They fixed it for free and 6 months later it would occasionally shut down with two red lights. Spoke with customer service and they said it was fine if I didn't have any lights on which quickly changed after a year. Even though I told them of my problem prior to the overheating they refused to fix it for free. Been a gold member since day one and purchased a few 360's as gift last year. My income is close to 30k a month yet I refuse to pay to get my 360 fixed because morally I know that MS is wrong. MS is taking advantage of it's customers by putting them in a situation just to save themselves. Customer service is a joke and hopefully somebody with a brain steps in to clean house and give us what we deserve as paying customers.

[monkfish]

wow 30k a month....god damn....i respect you sticking up for what you believe though as if i earned that much i would likely buy 10 360's just to be getting on with in case lol.

[rob6021]

I'd hate to get someone a 360 as a gift and have it break down on them

[-EvoAnubis-]

Now that I've responded to the comments that I felt like responding to, it's time for MY comment on the issue.

A poll of 5000 when the actual market sample is in the several millions is practically worthless. The 360 failure rate isn't 54.2%. That's simply the percentage of GI readers with failed consoles.

[GarandShooter]

How do you know the GI readers even actually own the console they responded about? This survey/poll is less than worthless.

[-EvoAnubis-]

I don't, but given that I've already written off the entire thing as irrelevant, I fail to see what difference it makes.

[GarandShooter]

'That's simply the percentage of GI readers with failed consoles.'

I'm saying that even this conclusion can't be drawn. I wasn't disagreeing with you.

[Ninji]

Wasn't it 33% before? That means the problem is worse. More than half of those consoles are defective. lmao

[TheMART]

Well you have to cut it down to models (and also hours of use of a console) if you want to know it really.

Its known that the 360 is played more average in hours then the PS3 or the Wii. So people will have their console dying sooner then the less played ones.

Second, if this survey had a larger part of the users of the launch 360, then obviously this number is inflated. Everyone knows the launch 360's had no extra headsink on the GPU. And the motherboard/die were other then todays. From may 2007 the extra heatsink is placed with repairs. Then the latest Jasper model, but even the Falcon did much better.

EDIT

@ the guy below

Leave that alcohol you're drinking all morning already and stop smoking that home grown stuff. They you'll understand the logical stuff that is written here.

[Tinted Eyes]

The Room is spinning!!!

[xztence]

And yet it still keeps occuring, according to you its because of higher number of hours played on 360?
That's bullcrap.MS failed to make a failure safe product(generally speaking), and the fact that even with their newer models the problem persists is just evidence of how unreliable a 360 is no matter how many hours you play.

[The_Beast]

SPIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SPI N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU XBOTS ARE MASTERS AT SPINNING,

Microsoft should stick to software, there not hardware company,no wonder shtbox is so cheap with a 50% failure rate... wtf...

and btw evrytime i playe my ps3 is over 5 hours.. a day and its still fine.. and one time i left it on for 1 day by accident and nothing happend... the 360 would of burned my house down

[PopEmUp]

will you be joining me in the club this weekend? Cause damn your spinning and scratching skills is beyond this world

[Lou-Cipher]

The RROD was 33% but that didn't include the high amount of disc drive errors/E74 errors.

I personally have had more disc read failures on the 360 than I have had RROD.

[Narutone66]

that the fool and his money are easily parted.
The failure rate for the 360 was 70+% before.

[BeenThereDoneThat]

I hate to put down my beloved 360. But i'm on my second unit after multiple RRODs on my first unit. As a matter of fact, my group of 360 buddies *ALL* have had at least one RROD. I don't know of ANY 360 owner that have been able to avoid it. Makes me wonder if the *count* of 360's out there isn't skewed by the fact that many of us HAD to go out and buy another unit to replace the ones when we got tired of sending it off to MS. I still hold my breath every time I power it up.

[Captain Tuttle]

The only problem with that logic (that many 360 sales are do to replacements etc.) is that I think that would drive the software attach rate down. Unless you think that when a 360 owner buys a replacement console they buy brand new games with it. Or I guess the attach rate could be even higher than it already is.

Edit: There's also this little quote "The most shocking number from the survey - and frightening from a consumer perspective - is only 3.8 percent of Xbox 360 owners said they'd never buy another Xbox because of hardware failure."

[GarandShooter]

Good point about the attach rate Captain.

I don't find the percentage in the quote shocking at all. With all the money people invest in games, and their virtual worthlessness at trade in, especially on older games, it seems more economically feasible to replace the console than the library.

[redbadger]

MS is aware of these problems and they STILL continue to manufacture shoddy equipment knowing naive people will buy and support it.

[JeffGUNZ]

check out the jasper chip, that's what they have been using to combat it, and it is working wonders.

[Captain Tuttle]

But I bet it's over the 33% generally quoted. Hell, the poll has the PS3 failure rate at over 10%...that can't be right.

[JeffGUNZ]

First off, that was in the climax of when the RROD occurred. What are the rates since the jasper chip was implemented, that would be an interesting survey.

[The Great Melon]

While xbox's hardware does suck. I have found their repair service to be informative and prompt. Packed it up on a Tuesday last month and sent it out, a week later it returned. I applaud Microsoft for at least making the repair process painless. I have never seen turnaround times that fast.

[Double Toasted]

thats good because I was wondering how long it took nowadays. When I sent one of mine in it only took around a week to get back and that was a couple of years ago when it kind of all started...

[The Great Melon]

Most of my friends have had their Xbox's die, but each one of them have also had one week turnarounds. Most of the time involved in the repair process was dedicated to shipping. It arrived at the repair center in the morning and by the afternoon it was already back in UPS' hands.

[Raoh]

i wont get another 360 if my current one dies. at least not paying for it..

i do have the in store warranty that would replace it if anything.. and it sucks that if my 360 craps out, and i return it for a new exchange it will get scanned as a sale.

microsoft sales numbers are like telling people you slept with a model but in reality all you got was a handjob from a fat chick behind an alley.

[ReBurn]

I wonder who came up with the bright idea to poll fanboys in a gaming magazine about console failure rates? They probably could have done a Metacritic poll and ended up about the same. That said, my personal 360 failure rate is 50%, so there could be something to it.

[Alcon Caper]

The most shocking number from the survey - and frightening from a consumer perspective - is only 3.8 percent of Xbox 360 owners said they'd never buy another Xbox because of hardware failure."

Crazy that people won't switch to the PS3, even in spite of a HARDWARE FAILURE.

Why! This is a weird world we live in...

I think it's a popularity thing... People have to get the new IN item. Chalk it up to brilliant MS marketing, for reals...

[Stryfeno2]

Maybe, just maybe they enjoy the 360 more than the PS3. Why would I make a change if the 360 offers me something the PS3 doesn't? My NES broke 3 times and a couple of friends did too but the reason we kept with it is because FUN beat out all factors.

[Alcon Caper]

Honestly, I agree... I like my 360. If it broke I guess I would get another one because it's crazy fun.

Plus, the one thing that people are realizing is that if your console breaks, you're not going to go out an get another brand of console, because there goes your entire library of games!

The cost to replace that library far exceeds another 360, or in most cases, a few weeks of waiting for repairs...

[Raoh]

this is also one reason i play my ps3 more.. i have more ps3 games than 360 games.

even if some games look slightly better on the 360 i buy games that i plan to play for long periods of time on the ps3 due to reliability.

i really only use the 360 for a few exclusives and netflix. really just netflix, the only games i have are orange box and mass effect. i used to have more games for a modded 360 but now my new box isnt modded and i cant think of anything worth spending money on it for.. i'm not a halo or gears fan so i'm really left with very few options.

[Gue1]

Kotaku: "The most shocking number from the survey — and frightening from a consumer perspective — is only 3.8 percent of Xbox 360 owners said they'd never buy another Xbox because of hardware failure."

tailstoo
9:14 AM
I guess that tells you to spend more on marketing and less on quality control.
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[Dellis]

You know what is sad, people will still buy 360s again and again again

[SuperStrokey1123]

While I think that number is a bit high, its still rather shocking.

[heylo]

failbox360 for 300$ ??

[heylo]

for some reason I can't edit posts...

this is the answer for the question above:
http://i31.tinypic.com/zr11...

[wiggles]

I am seriously worried about our consumer market, it's disgusting that people will crawl back to Microsoft with even a low estimated 33% failure rate...people are going on their 3rd one!? Come on!

Who cares if it's under warranty doesn't anyone believe in the principle of making a good quality product instead of an xbox with an extended warranty? We're showing Microsoft that they can make a half-assed product and we will eat it up. I hope this doesn't start a trend in the future otherwise the gaming community will be screwed over....

[MetalProxy]

My threesixty RROD and I hardly use the thing. Everyone I know has had to replace there threesixty, so 54% is being very conservative.

[Stryfeno2]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Captain Tuttle]

I'm amazed at all of the people ignoring the 10% failure rate for the PS3.

[Pennywise]

How do you make room for the rabbit in the hat that you pull your BS out of? Please... post some legit links to this 10%.

[Captain Tuttle]

My source is the same place where we got the 54.2% for the 360...the above article. I'm just pointing out how most people in this thread are ignoring it. I understand that most people don't click on the link to read the entire article (although in this case that IS the entire article) but to only comment on the headline while ignoring info in the introduction?

[Mr_Bun]

Really Tuttle?...you are amazed that the 10% PS3 is ignored while the 360 is showing more than 5X that?

[Oner]

Okay then how do you explain Microsoft THEMSELVES admitting that for the first 19 months of sales which amounts to 12 million 360's where ALL DEFECTIVE ~ http://www.fastsilicon.com/...

Now lets use some more in depth FACTUAL data. Okay?

Since it's inception MS has redesigned, reworked, readjusted and re-re-re-released different iterations of it's motherboard design ONLY FOR EACH ONE TO STILL HAVE ISSUES...hence this shows...strike that...PROVES that EVERY 360 EVER MADE is prone to failure. Now that does not mean EVERY 360 will break but that EVERY 360 has the ABILITY to do so.

Now I am sure if you did the math you can SAFELY come to a conclusion (with MANY sites supporting the AVERAGE #'s) of AT LEAST 30%-40% of all the 360's ever made & sold have OR will fail. Now to extrapolate further upon that imagine how many 360's are unrepairable and/or where thrown out by the consumer and probably repurchased to keep playing....that would lead one to believe that the 360's "lead" is not what MS touts.

Edit: Oh and for those who have low reading comprehension skills please read what I said a few times before you think/believe/say the wrong thing.

[Pennywise]

OMG 10% - Call the BBB!

You are trying to start a lynching on Sony while you are 360 owner. Tell me Tuttle, how many 360's have you gone through? I have had my ps3 since launch and NO PROBLEMS, and it is on A LOT.

[Captain Tuttle]

One has RROD once and the other twice. Both covered although they're out of warranty now. If these fail I'll get them repaired by a guy I know for $30-$40.
If you look through the thread at my other comments you'll see that I question the 54% (as well as the 10% failure for the PS3), I even think the failure rate for the 360 is higher than the 33% commonly accepted.

All I'm questioning is how people can accept a 54% failure rate result for the 360 and dismiss/ignore the 10% failure rate for the PS3 (according to this poll)when they are arrived at through presumably the same polling process. Either they're both correct or they're both wrong. You can't have it both ways.

[Pennywise]

Well... tuttle, I am at 0% failure rate and you are at 100% with triple the consoles owned.

After you are done putting that in your pipe and smoking it, let me know what you think.

BTW I think all numbers in this survey are inflated, but the 360 failure rate is way more unacceptable than the PS3's.

[Captain Tuttle]

I think that you're way too emotionally vested in your console of choice.

And all I was stating that the numbers are a bit off. I'm glad that you agree.

[Pekka]

These figures are badly inflated and not real failure rates. Failure rates should be calculated based on YEARLY failure rate. Otherwise numbers would be completely useless because every old model would have high failure rates even if they would be very reliable. If you would use failure rates like this, every electronics would have 100% failure rate in the end.

Of course, this doesn't make 360's result any less catastrophic. Even considering 360 is 4 years old console these numbers are very bad. Wii is probably below 3% yearly failure rate and PS3 around 4%. After all both are around 3 year-old consoles.

[TheTruth89]

ONLY ON DVD CAPABLE 360°MINI-FURNACE

[ShadowCK]

Rubbish. That would mean that every time you play your Xbox 360 half the time it would break. Considering I have played my Xbox 360 nearly every day for the past two years and hasn't had red ring of death once, I conclude that this article is incorrect.

[zok310]

My 360 RROD 2x on me, the 1st time MS fixed it for free after I rant my butt off (they were trying to charge me), the second time they wanted to charge me to fix the same system they repaired just 7 months earlier, I said hell no and told them I'll never buy a hardware product from Microsoft again and hung up on them. I've been stuck with a broken 360 since June 2008 and it sucks because the system was a launched Pro model, I had about 15 games and the wireless network adapter, about a $800-$1000 value gone down the drain along with the remainder of my gold membership which I'm still trying to get a reimbursement for.

[presto717]

You get to play all the multiplatform games you love. The only down side is no Halo, Gears, Mass Effect and L4D. But all those are on PC. Plus no more paying for online and you get some very good exclusives.

The xbox 360 is a failure.

[i like jam]

i cant believe that percent failure rate of a 360. that is an utter joke. instead of rushing to release a console maybe keep it back for testing. i dont wnat to buy a console for it it break 6 months down the line.
bad microsoft...

[peeps]

do you own a 360? if so you'd probably know that you wouldnt have to buy a new 1 since they will replace a rrod 360 if it's within the 3 year warranty

[wiggles]

But it's the principle of the purchase. Who cares if they have an extended warranty..bottom line...Microsoft should not have allowed a product with a 33-50% failure rate.

[Ninjamonkey82]

Five 360s all failed on me. That's straight up as well atm i have a ps3 and another xbox360 but i hardly play the 360 for the fact remains after that amount of bad luck. It feels bad playing the f**king thing. I'm not shocked it over 50% failure rate and anyone that says other ways are trying to make themselves feel better for there purchase.

[keysy420]

shoul dhave asked me ive have 14 and no ill never buy another one

[peeps]

well it is only this site. really the failure rate needs to come from the companies surely?

anyway i've had 2 360's now and 2 ps3's lol but at least my 360 was in the 3 year warrenty so got a new 1 for free. had to buy a new ps3 :( but spent a bit more to get the extra cover now lol

[CryWolf]

This is why 360 SUCK! = RROD

[turgore]

even a broken 360 is more fun than a working PS3.

[wxer]

wow
talking about blinded fanboys

you really have fun with a black screen and you console is blinking 3 three red lights ??

well if thats true

have fun ..... i guess

[Narutone66]

taken by Joystiq staff, the failure rate of the 360 would be 100%.
To the retarded fanboy (11.1) above, that's why you deserved your console.

[Ilikegames76]

Aaron G and Gabe wouldn't go as low as you.

[Demon5500]

I wouldn't believe this crap if I was you, The 360 RROD is down to 12.4% numbers, and 52.4 is utter crap, Did sony or there fanboys do the analysis, It seems of late that sony is trying to run there fake figures just before there new $399 slim to bad the figures don't ad up, Ms would have been made to pull the product of the shelves if the fail rate was that high. there is a law all around the world that states, that a product can only have a 25% fail rate, so this article is bull, and any one with a working brain cell, should know this, And if you don't then go and look it up on Goggle, they would have been able to sell 36 million consoles if this was the case, More smoke and mirrors , for the brain dead sony sheep?:)

[n4gno]

yeah, like sony was lying about bluray numbers because hd dvd was too powerfull...poor americans believers.

ms fanboxs are the worst we'have ever seen, they believe all the rumors and lies ms pay (they can !) to compete with sony, and never believe the truth, even if they have proof under the eyes (even ms was accepting the 33/40% rrod percentage with 1 billion garanty extension) they are like people believing fox news (perhaps they are the same).

[Trinioutsider34]

I Really Don't Get This Some Of You Complain About Going Though 3-5 360 System's But Yet You Still Pull Money Out Of Your Pocket's To Repair It Knowing It Could Happen To Your 360 Again.I Own PS3 And I'm Happy, Also A Wii Not So Happy With That One,But For Me Get 360 Knowing That Failure Rate Is Like That No Way.Most Of My Friends 360 System Just Stopped Working And Now Some Of Them Are Thinking About Owning A PS3 Now.

[Fadetoblack69]

And they wonder why I'd never buy an XBox???

It's got nothing to do with bashing a particular segment of the gaming scene, it has to do with bashing a company that has no business in the gaming scene.

I love consoles, I love gaming.... Ps2, Ps3, Nintendo, Sega, Atari, etc. etc. I've owned them all & loved them all but I absolutely refuse to buy an xbox ever! Why??

Sony: Electronics Corporation. Has a solid history of building quality innovative electronics.

Nintendo: Video Game Corporation. Has a solid history in making games and consoles.

Microsoft: Bought their way into the scene to make profit. Has no real interest in the gaming scene other than it's profit line. Has no solid experience in electronics.

Why would I be stupid enough to want to support them in the gaming scene?? Of course their hardware is going to fail! Of course their software is going to have bugs. They're a "pseudo" software company that can't even write decent software and has bullied, stolen or bought pretty much everything that has their logo!

I will always be a gamer and will support every "True" gaming platform out there but I will not support Microshite - Ever. You get what you pay for and their products are indisputably garbage.

[insomnium]

What a great post. I agree 100%.

[XLiveGamer]

Brought to you by:

SONY & IBM

[megatama]

This is the worst built system in gaming history.......

[pcn88]

RRoD is already a internet meme.

[Faztkiller]

I have 10 friends that live close that I talk to everyday and everyone had to send there 360 back aleast twice. I'm on my 6th so i think they got lucky. I also had to get my PS3 fixed once.

Edit It's not if it's going to break it's when

[Trevorthenerd]

that nintendo make the best hardware. my snes still works perfectly :)

[n4gno]

nintendo = less games and harcore gamers = less gaming = less hardware problems :)

and without optical drives (snes, atari, etc), it's normal to have no problems (or less)..

[iceman2929]

I don't know if Canadian Xbox 360s were made with super-strength soldering but i dont know a single person whose xbox has RRd and off the top of my head i can name about 20 people who have them. That doesn't seem like 50% unless we are all Really lucky!

[The_Darkest_Red]

Probably because its colder, less chance of overheating.

Haha, just kiddin :p

[iceman2929]

I had a feeling that a comment like that was gonna show up :D And i mean i guess its true when compared to someplace like texas or New mexico ( during winter)so i guess that possible ( however we do get 95F during the summer often at least in alberta(rough estimate ...to lazy to do the calc for 30C))

[bjornbear]

I doubt MS got WORSTE at building them =P

[pcn88]

you never know.. sloppy hardware lazy engineers

[The_Darkest_Red]

My goodness, its amazing how wrapped up people can get in what the correct percent is of a failure rate. Let me break it down for you:

Xbox 360 Failure Rate: Too dang much
Xbox 360 Failure Rate as a percent: Too dang much percent

The point is, this product never should have hit the market in its original form. I don't care if they have continually improved it, an electronics product should be expected to be sturdy from the get go. This is just unacceptable and is the one reason why I will not buy a 360.

[EVILDEAD360]

Game informer surveys readers? LMAO! How tainted is that? In this age of fanboyism seeping into every aspect of this age of gaming NO system or review is safe.

I have two systems and both have NEVER had a problem . I'm not alone. But, my the majority voices will always be muffled out in favor of the negative.

Case in point, 3 of my closest friends who have PS3s have had the system fail on them. Their voice will almost never be heard either. The media doesnt want that out there.

Eiher way the RROD problem is out there. The people that I know send it in get it within 2-3weeks later.

If you are going to take this as gospel then that mean this is also good news for Microsoft.

According to the same article, more people spend time playing the Xxbox 360 everyday than ANY other system. Must be the truth.

[_vx]

50% pps bought another Xbox after RROD-Xbox, SO the actul number of ppl owning Xbox is much more less than 30million,
30m*50% = 15m ... lets say around 15-20M max :'/

[SH3MRON]

I do have a PS3 but the xbox even though with all the problems has the best online system. Live is much better at the moment and the controler is better for FPS. All the games I play on my ps3 and the xbox remains for COD series lol.

Reasons for the live been better
1- party chat (my friends and I tend to talk more spanish than english and people tend to start talking trash)
2- more people with headsets and less feedback (cheap bluethoot headsets will do that)
3- Don't know why but I lagg a lot less on the xbox (should be my connection)

[PS360PCROCKS]

Ya a lot like those 100+ million PS2's

[wxer]

actually the ps2 is rock soled
i still got my lunch fat ps2
still working with no problems

[turgore]

and I guess PS3 can go ahead and gloat with its 10% failure rate that SONY doesnt replace after your short ass warranty is over.
Seriously this study is garbage ...everyone voted agaisnt the console they hate and this includes the early garbage 360s that broke super often.

[wxer]

did you know
that in the year before the ps3 is out
the xbox360 warranty
was only 1 year ???

and they made it 3 years after that
because they saw that the PS3 having a better hardware
and that so one can drag them to court

thats why the 360 got 3 years of warranty

[_vx]

REPEAT AFTER ME .....

EPIC FAILLLLLLLL!!

[Obama]

I highly doubt the ps3 has a 10% failure rate. I think we should subract around 9% of what the author claimed it is...which will be ps3 - 1%, 360 - 45%.

[Ilikegames76]

we can stipulate that the PS3 is outselling the 360.

[Amir51]

People moan that PS3 is too expensive compared to 360 but if you do the math:

Cost of ps3 console for 5 years = £300

Cost of 360 console for 5 years =

(3x£200)2 broken consoles + (5x£35)5 years xbox live = £775

[chasegamez2]

MAYBE 90%

[JonnyBigBoss]

Sounds more accurate. Considering that every person I know with a 360 has had at least 1 RROD, I can't imagine less than 30%.

[Obama]

Even though the 360 is my nemesis , I still don't think the failure rate is 54%. It should be around 45% I would say. ;)

[Crystallis]

makes me wonder if the 6 million console lead ahead of the ps3 belong to the folks who bought and extra 360 console when theirs died. Check out ebay its flooded with rrod and broken 360's.

[Arietus]

Why spend money on a console, which breaks suddenly? No, thanks...

[Bladestar]

I currently own 2 xbox 360 and 1 PS3. So far they are all working and no problems.

I tell you though 11% failure rate sounds bad too. That means that out of every 100 people that buy a PS3 11 of them will die. Now Sony does not offer as near as good factory warranty.

I personally rather have 54% failure rate and 3 year warranty.. than 11% failure rate and be left in the dark after 90 days ( http://www.us.playstation.c...

Also, out-of-warranty repair for an Xbox 360 will cost US$119.99 (not to mention that one can buy a core for $199) and the PS3 out-of-warranty costs $150 and buying a PS3 core for ($199) is not an option.

again... for the sake of direct comparison hurraiiii! PS3 have lower failure rate... but it's not the 1% that sony fans used to think... 11% is really high and poor you if your PS3 actually fails.

Xbox 360 owners aside from the 1-2 weeks wait... are better covered.

[Obama]

lol what a load of bs. If the 360 really have a 54% failure rate, that means when the person got his 360 back from the repair shop, it still has 1/2 chance of failing on him again! That takes another 3 weeks to a month, and the nightmare repeats itself.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Every person I know has had their box break at least once, including me. Like someone else said when you already have a ton of games it's easier to get it fixed than to change machines.

[Rowsdower]

has a high failure rate, no sh*t.

is gaming news so sparse that we rehash the same issues every couple of weeks

its like if cnn reported today that eating too much and not exercising makes you fat, think thats gonna stop people from canceling their gym membership and going to McDonalds.

people are irrational for reasons they can only rationalize.

[Biggunz]

coming from someone who said:

"remember the US military has killed more people in recent history than one man ever did and we love to play as them all the time"

[Rowsdower]

that quote and another that I linked to are about the picture of che that was on lionheads website a little while ago. some folks were throwing a fit by the idea of a video game with che guevara. I made my point which you dont have to agree with, and it was actually part of an interesting thread, check it out in these 2 links.

http://n4g.com/NewsCom-3766...

http://n4g.com/NewsCom-3766...

also what does that thread have to do with this one, if your trying to discredit me by questioning my patriotism or something you can bl*w me.

my family has been US marines for close to 100 years, doesn't make us blind to the fact that the US has committed dishonorable acts in its history. all i was saying is that people have a problem with che because of the violence he caused then why dont they have a problem with playing a soldier who also causes violence. i posed a question, an interesting one i think, it would make for an interesting article.

also I have had to have my 360 replaced 4 times, all covered by MS extended warranty, at this point I dont think the 360's failure rate is news, why not report that water is wet.

in fact you and i agree on the state of n4g, here are some of your quotes biggunz:

"WTF
is this crap? Has the N4G "standards" been droped so low that any birddick on youtube get approved now? N4G is a joke."

"LOL
it's him again. How does this kids "news stories" keep getting approved?? I thought N4G was supposed to be news about games, I was wrong. N4G is nothing more then a glorified fanboy forum where trolls can post crap and call it "news". WHAT A JOKE"

"Is there a website
that has actual news instead of a bunch of fanboy nonsense? This site is nothing more then a fanboy B.S. collection IMO."

but you cant help the fanboy in you biggunz:

"LOL
XBOX SUCKS!"

"Project Natal and HALO:REACH. Possibly the two biggest releases in gaming next year.
LOL

M$ could make HALO:TURD and it would sell very well to the bots. Anything Halo is going to sell well considering they have nothing else.

Natal is just plain strange and useless IMO."

Your a glorified biggunz and I feel bad for feeding you

there is room for all of us in here, whether you like it or not

[Obama]

If this is true than the 360 should be named "Two Face" Flip the coin, to fail or not to fail.

[-Mezzo-]

It means every owner has bought an Xbox360 2 times which puts Xbox behind PS3 in sales. WEAK.

[Crystallis]

Exactly and you wonder why 360 fanboys still support MS...

I know 3 folks who went out and bought another new 360's while the one they send to MS was being fixed. Makes you wonder if the 6 million lead over ps3 is really accurate?!?!

[Obama]

Two of my friends with a 360 have already got RROD once. One of them bought an elite afterwards. I really am not bsing here.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

My buddy's launch 360 still runs fine. (Launch 360)

Only problem it has is disk read error and disk tray jamming, but we can deal with that easily.

[Crystallis]

I believe you. My close buddy's elite just rrod on him and this was an upgrade from his regualer 360's .From day 1 ive told him to get a ps3 but he always knocked me for getting a ps3. Now he wish he had and he singing a different tune about MS now, while im pointing my finger at him and laughing.

[Arietus]

A friend of me got the RRoD, while he was playing Resident Evil 5. Shortly after he got the RRoD, he sent the console to MS. 4 months ... since he sent the console for repair. And what does he have in his hands? Simple answer! Nothing! I asks himself : Why didnt I buy the Playstation 3? Really frustating to spend money on something, which isnt even save.

[Ninjamonkey]

wow...

Thats got to be the worst design of a console ever for durability XD

[MaximusPrime]

when i saw the title, i thought that got to be a joke. MS claimed that failure rate drop to something like 22% from 33%. now i read it, it is shocking. In my lifetime i came across 2 RRoD consoles in electrical retailer.

It seems 10% is just about right for ps3 but staggering 50 something % for xbox 360 shows that MS must do more with hardware not software. MS should have allowed more time rather than launching rapidly a year before sony's ps3

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I admit it is a piece of crap with the best games and online service in history. Now what?

[n4gno]

..in 2006, since best games are on ps3, and online service is equal (but free)

[ASSASSYN 36o]

...so high-speed why is the ps3 holding strong in third year after year after year?

[MaximusPrime]

Customer services is true too. It too me half an hour trying to cancel that d**m xbox live subscription and getting my money back. I wasnt happy with MS customer service.
Sony on the otherhand is the best. Their customer service is friendly and so easy and straightforward.

[iown-ipwn-ikill]

only 500 xboxes have ever been sold and the rst are replacements, and all the internet fanboyism comes from a fat dude resembling jabba the hut behind a big hub of pcs surrounded by chips n dips

[Troll-Killer]

....Sony is getting their ASS HANDED TO THEM....much more than initially thought.... in software sales, and online saturation....if this (obviously bogus) survey were accurate. If MS only has about 14 million functioning consoles on the market, they're making a mockery of Sony's pathetic PS3.

Only morons and/or fanboys believe this crap. :o

[GiantEnemyCrab]

LOL! Good point. I guess there are only 1/2 of the 360's that are out there if this crap is to be believed so that would mean the 360 is delivering even a bigger pounding to the PS3 than I thought.

Actually, hell I've just given up on the PS3 after reading this if it's true.. There is no way they can come back if MS can do the damage with just 11-13 mil 360's. How embarrassing.

[Noob]

Everyone I have encountered that owns a 360 has had RROD. It's insane.

I think the 3.8% of people that said they wouldn't buy another one is low because MS is willing to fix it for free.

If I seen this before I brought 360, I would of definitely brought PS3 first.

[cosmos]

yep, the numbers are screwy as they always are with surveys. Doesn't matter for two reasons.
The first is that it's common knowledge the the 360 had an extremely high failure rate compared to the other two consoles (even MS half ass acknowledges this by extending warranties)
The second are all the idiots out there who find this an acceptable situation. Not only has the hardware proven faulty over and over with ALL the models, Jasper included, but a $150 repair fee on a console that costs $200!?!
I for one would rather pay and xtra 25 smackers for a brand new one if and ONLY IF there is a fix for the newer models because as it stand the new ones are just as faulty. Please people, PLEASE, stop forkingover money to this company that is screwing us consumers. The more you idiots fork over for this crap, Yes I have one and it has been the most trouble of any console I've owned, insane amounts of money for the overpriced HDD, wirless (who wants that anyway) the more the consumer pays the more they will CONTINUE ripping us off. For the love of god stop defending MS. OR just give me your money I can provide you with faulty crap just as well.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

If you believe this number the only idiot here is you.

[Russia208]

It's amazing how all the xbots go into self defense mode and start attacking the other consoles to change the subject...amazing.

[Anon1974]

If they don't like the topic being discussed, switch it. Have to argument? Simply yell "But look over there! SONY!" and everyone will forget that you don't have a leg to stand on.

[shysun]

Hell we all knew this. My 360 died once and thats it so far.

[bekum_aka_jarhed]

WTF PS3 FAILURE RATE IS 10.6 % ???? WASN'T IT 2 % ???

[N4G king]

WTF xbox36 FAILURE RATE IS 54.2 % ???? WASN'T IT 30 % ???

[n4gno]

Guys like xeoset are real ? ms employees ? just dumb ?

[VampHuntD]

Also, Microsoft's numbers are inflated because 360s are used the most of the three consoles. Results said 40.3 percent of 360 owners use the console three to five hours a day, compared to 37 percent of PS3 owners.

Inflated because 3.3% less play that many hours a day? If that were the case the numbers should be at least similar. Fanboy defense in my eyes.

That being said, this really sucks although it's not really accurate either. I own a 360 and I'm scared to turn it on lest it gives me that red evil eye again.

[Anon1974]

I used to buy the bulk of my games on my 360, but I was burned once too often. I'm on my 4th 360 and since I've purchased my console it's been just over 4 months that I had to go without. I learned early on there's no point in having hundreds of dollars in games and no system to play them on. No I still pick up the odd 360 game, but I'm always worried of getting another rrod. Microsoft taught me to game in fear of my console. Congrats. No wonder my PS3 10 times more play time now.

[artsaber]

I've had two in my possession. 1st one died, replaced by another... the second one is lightly played, I am at 50%. Now my friends who are on their 4th, 3 have died and their current one is working , they have a personal failure rate of 75%. When you break it down individually, the failure rate is not hard to believe at all. It sounds closer to the truth than many will ALLOW themselves to believe.

It seems to be a point of not IF your 360 will die, but WHEN. We all know that day is coming, and probably sooner than we can hope for.

[Anon1974]

2 RROD and one replacement they sent me gouged and ruined 3 games before I caught on and after a lengthy fight with Microsoft had that one replaced even though they had sent it to me just 2 weeks prior. Apparently disk scratching units aren't covered under 3 year warranty, only a one year warranty. I couldn't believe they just shipped me a bad unit and then refused to replace it without me coughing up $170 (cdn). Lucky I had purchased an extended warranty for an extra $75 after my second rrod.

[shad0w70]

Fanboys lmao!

[Blow Out Your Brains]

oh yea, less than 4 percent say they will still buy M$ products despite taking it up the tailpipe for the last four plus years. That gives one an accurate assessment on most of the bots intelligence levels, hence the dumb comments they constantly make here.

[Saaking]

Wow, Xbox fail! See that bots.

[hesido]

"..because of hardware failure"

Oh great, this will give the hardware industry a few ideas on the quality of the future hardware.. People don't care as long as you got them hooked. Bad times are coming! Blame Xbox owners..

[boss_killa]

this RROD fiasco is one reason why i'll never buy a 360, or any MS console.

i dunno how 360 fans put up with this garbage.

i wonder how much of the 7-8 mil console "lead" MS has over Sony are dead consoles.

[mirroredderorrim]

I sold my old launch 360 to my sister for pennies. It still works!
I have had my Elite /w 120gig) for almost a year now, if not that, and that too still works.

I have not played in it a 'minute' though. It's disturbing if these numbers are true.
Maybe more surveys are in order to straighten this mess out, however... what's to keep fanboys from tainting the survey?

[gameman]

they only now confirm it officially every one of my friends got rrod every singly one of them and they have at least two 360 i think the FAILURE RATE is more than 80%

[rob6021]

The reason why Gamepro's numbers are so high, is because readers of their publication are mostly all Gamers. The casuals that barely use their system are not included in the poll.
If you game a lot odds are your 360 will die on you.

If you think it's all Sony fan boys trying to inflate the numbers, you're probably wrong - because for everyone one of them there's an xbox fanboy pretending their 360 didn't break down.

[Anon1974]

That doesn't make me feel any better if I were buying my first 360. So if you plan on playing on your 360, expect a 54% failure rate.

I admit, these numbers may be inflated but it still doesn't tell a very pretty story.

[tudors]

Surveys like this don't mean sh*t.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

Numbers are inflated because it's used more & there's still more than a 50/50 chance of getting rrod.
Umm game informer, the other 45% recieve error 74, 1 light of death, disc tray malfunctions, freezing & straight up dead brick malfunction.

Funny.

[Mo0eY]

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No matter how much you spin it bots, it'll glare into your soul and haunt you for the rest of this gen.

[The_Beast]

the master of spinning this miserably failed..... poor bots lmao

[RAM MAGNUMS]

I've had 3 rrods!
The 360 lasted a year then rrod. I bought a arcade and it rroded the first week. The replacement 360 rroded when delivered to my door. Maybe I just saved a life.

Never again will I mess with that system. Especially when the P$3 is so much better.
Now I watch YouTube videos of people shooting thier rrod bricks with ak-47's & shotguns.
It feels so good to put a bullet thru that pos!

[jdktech2010]

Buy a warranty from Best Buy......if it doesn't work it, replace it

I've had 3 systems but it hasn't cost me a dime past that initial warranty purchase.....people create more drama than is usually needed

[Quadrix]

At this point, I think 360 fans can be lumped into the same category as PETA members; abominations that don't deserve to breath life.

[Arutha]

Well as someone who has had to repair one 4 times (it never cost me a dime at all, and the last one that RROD was replaced with a new one) I can say I will buy another if this one breaks. For one thing my game library is just to big to get rid of. You do not get enough on trade ins to make it worth while, and I do not feel like selling games off one by one Plus the system has some excellent games to play through a. Second I have a good group of friends that I play online with, and that takes time to develop on a whole separate network. Lastly I already have the PS3 and Wii, so even if I did have MS fix the console I at least have other systems to play in the meantime.

Overall though it still sucks that the failure rate is even as high as it is. Especially considering that my original Xbox works like a charm.

[spektical]

i have an xbox and im on my 3rd already... , M$ customer service is a joke... heaven knows why i decided to get a new xbox after each failure... maybe cause of halo xD

but yea those numbers seem very realistic. Most of my friends are on a different xbox than the one they started with and most of them are because of hardware failures

[batterystrength]

Images say more than 1000 words,

[Aceluffy]

I also have an old Nintendo and Sega Genesis that still works.
WTF is this ? A supposedly next gen console with 54,2 % failure rate and people still buy this crap ? This is not a good gaming era if we have at least 20 something millions morons willing to put up or even defend this rotting company of M$. Well, I give up, I guess people really are misinformed almost most of the time

[Narutone66]

DreamCast, PS2 still works fine. I got bored with my SNES and gave it away. Even my game and watch still works.
The shoddy hardware is one of the main reason I will not buy a 360.

[HDgamer]

Wow, this is very shocking.

[SurgicalMenace]

Why is it that, we Xbox 360 owners, refuse to look at the facts? I know that I have been through over 5 systems personally, so is it hard to believe that there could be more people that have experienced the same thing?

Look, I know it is hard to except that the hardware that you chose is the most faulty out of the three, but it does not mean that your decision was wrong. What is wrong, is that fact that because you made your decision and you do not want to feel like you were wrong, you turn a blind eye to facts that have been proven over the years.

The only things that most of you have to fight with in this ongoing debate are comments like;

Well, if these numbers were true Microsoft would tell us.

I will not believe that X company is telling the truth because they were paid off by Sony and/or Nintendo.

Well these numbers cannot be true because MY system has never broke.
Note: "My" in math is a term that has a value equaling one.

Look the proof is, Microsoft paying out 290 million dollars in damages and extending the contracts to three years. If this was not true why would a company do that? Because they are the richest and just love to spend money on accusations right.

And, just recently Microsoft was ordered by a judge to pay out another 200+ million in damages. I have multiple 360s and a good library of games but I can see that the hardware is not as reliable as the other two companies.

Why is it okay to know something is wrong as long as no one tells you that it is wrong? I know, it is the hope that no one sees that facts and turns to use them against you. I love gaming but I am tired of these debates that are not based on facts only blind bias for the defending team. Open your eyes and except the facts.

[ukilnme]

Luckily for me my Elite is still running strong. Wish I could say the same about my PS3.

[SurgicalMenace]

Yes, because your one elite is the voice of victory for all the xboxes that have been doomed to the graveyard. Your PS3 breaking is illustrated as the 10% failure that was stated in the article anyway. So your attempt to prove a point has a failure rate of 100%. Stop debating over what you believe is the truth and just look at the facts.

[Gun_Senshi]

When you buy an X360, you will be games. You'll have quite a libary. If it breaksdown, even when not under warranty, the amount of money spent on games will make you buy a new x360.

In my humble Opinion, Microsoft did RROD fault on purpose, so buyers will have to buy multiple X360s to enjoy gaming on it. Most people have at least 2 different X360s, so they can keep playing when one is at repairs.

Before you call me a fanboy for my views, answer me this. How come RROD is nearly never ever appeart on a Modded X360 with added fans?

And no, Jasper and Falcon NEVER fixed RROD. Just more propoganda.

[rukia_chan]

RROD:

only in the 360fxme ;) ;) ;)

[Relientk77]

thats a pretty high percentage, maybe microsoft should do something

[Doletskaya]

Well,no surprise,I went through three 360s myself before deciding to go with PS3 instead and then realising what kind of idiot I was to keep supporting a console that breaks on itself.

[gano]

I know it's more then that for the metoo360.
M$ is the worst company to enter gamin ever.
Garbage system in history, and cats/kids try to justify this to real gamers.
How? Payin online, what! They even said they knew the system was faulty and didn't care.

People justify their hardware, to their buyouts of timed exclusives, even payouts to make the comps games look bad. The cats who where here when n4g started know who u are. It's business these clowns say.
Bet, if M$ made cars and 54% of those cars crash, brake lock up, trans went out etc, regardless if it has satellite radio, dvd player u cant convince me thats a good car.

Gameinformer mostly ms fans so the percentage is more.
This gen of gamers.... wow.
I'll never support a snake azz company like ms, never. Some who snake stay snakin.

[vShinobi]

Mine broke twice already.

[ZILLA]

i thought it was more like 99.9%!when will ppl figure out that the 360 and the wii are toys and the P S 3 is a home entertainment machine(period)fact:HOME killed the xbox!!!

[NaiNaiNai]

yes yes and we all know that the ps3 is over 10% fail rate as well.

so both sides need to stop living in denial.

[NaiNaiNai]

oh you'll agree with 54% but not the fact its like 11.2% on the ps3. Okay what ever be delusional.

[TheColbertinator]

Wow that is a lot of hardware failure.

[rubixCubos]

This is an absolute disgrace of epic proportions on Microsoft's part.

I'm still baffled and angry as to how the hell they are getting away with this.

If this was any other large company, there would be worldwide uproar.

54% !?!?!?!?!?

10% is acceptable.

12% is poor.

15% is bad.

25% is disgraceful as that is 1/4, which is not acceptable in any way but...

54% ??!?!?!

[PirateThom]

I doubt it's 54%, the sample is quite small, but it gives you an idea how people are like beat wives when it comes to the 360, it breaks down once, but maybe it can change, Microsoft said it had changed.

[SurgicalMenace]

Like I stated above they were ordered by a judge to pay out another 200+ million dollars in damages just recently.

[Anon1974]

That exact same comparison stated almost exactly as you put it got me suspended from the Gamespot forums for a month back a year or so ago. You want to see out of control, pro-Microsoft mods just trying making anything but a 100% pro-Microsoft opinion on those forums.

I used that site for almost a decade before they decided to go that route. It's sad when you see a site like that that you've grown to respect all of a sudden noticeably shift their editorial policies and then see that spread over into their forums.

[Blacksand1]

I was just in gamestop about 1:00pm and the guy thought I work at gamestop and he told me he just got a RROD last night after having the 360 back for 4 month. is that bad are what I told him that RROD all the time my sister man had 3-4 of them, so I told him to buy a PS3 because tomorrow the three will have a price cut tomorrow.

[Gun_Senshi]

Where I live Microsoft don't even let me play online, there is no XBL, at least Sony let me play online even though there is no Playstation Store to buy.

Where I live MS gives only 6 month warranty on X360.

[CharlesDCI]

I find it funny that not even a survey conducted by a well established gaming magazine can stop X-Bots from spinning the results.

[Socomer 1979]

The only thing thats inflated are those so called xbox 360 consoles sold each month in america.

this percentage of hardware malfunctions are definatly a factor.

[Socomer 1979]

& this is why you all are officially the dumbest waste of space that ever existed in the history of gaming. every single one of you toolboxes are bend over buddies and ya got the avatars to proove it.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAA !

[artsaber]

That the average generic brand toaster has a longer average shelflife as a 360, that at one point was guaranteed to be $400 and up. Most folks have come to terms with this, but there are a few who still have issues with reality.

My advice to those of you, is to let it go. Don't create a safe-haven for manufacturers or companies to produce shoddy hardware in the wake of your denial. If so, this may become a standard business practice.

[SurgicalMenace]

You are proof that there is hope for the gaming community. No more denial only facts people.

[Hiruu]

which issue was this article in?

[xboxlover]

but kept getting them fixed until #6(bought an arcade). 2RROD, 3E74, and a no video problem. At this point, it would be a waste of my money sent on games to switch. I will buy Xbox 720, because MS will have learned by 2010 or beyond not to rush ahead of PS or nintendo, and lt will be them that have the faulty console, just like the PS2. Only problem will be is when Nintendo/Sony fix for free like MS is doing, people won't switch because of the same reason I didn't (But Blu-Ray and GT5 almost tipped me.)

My original crystal xbox still works fine, and I just play then when the 360's in the shop. (why would MS sell an arcade, when they pioneered having a HDD standard with xbox 1? BTW how big was that HDD, it never gets full.)

[SurgicalMenace]

Unfortunately man, your comment sounds more like wishful thinking because Nintendo has never been known for their faulty hardware. Sony had two generations to learn from their mistakes. Microsoft was known for faulty hardware last generation as well. Sony or Nintendo will not extend their warranties because there is faith in their product.

I too will purchase the 720 but not as a fan of the company but as a hardcore gamer that will not limit himself to just one system.

[xboxlover]

1 week each, and I live in the middle of nowhere.

[rohail88]

looking at bots crying!

[artsaber]

The last thing I wonder is why has there been no FORCED recall of this item? There comes a point where government has to set a standard... I mean imagine if this was Ford or Cadillac or hell even Bissell or Black&Decker... would there be a mandatory recall on this product due to unacceptable failure rates? Also, the 3 year extended warranty does not fix the problem.

The 360's issues are in the root of the design of the motherboard. So when you send a broken one in, the parts get replaced with more faulty parts. It is not a fix, it is a PATCH to temporarily tide you over... and Microsoft hopes that you play your console a lot less (like I do) out of fear that it will break again, and it will carry you past the 3 year mark so they can drop servicing you like an atomic hot rock.

It is VERY hard for me to believe that Microsoft makes any money off the 360. But then again, they might since people accept this business practice and fund the repair of old 360s with XBL payments and the purchases of new consoles. It seems to be a perpetuating circle of death that ultimately ends with your 360 being out of warranty and dead as a brick, with no consumer rights left. And a stack full of 360 titles that you can either A) Ebay away, or B) Buy a new 360 and jump right back into the circle of console doom.

I speak like this, and I like my 360, when its working and when I am not afraid to use it (since it makes funny noises from time to time).

[SurgicalMenace]

I don't think that I could have worded it better myself.

[PirateThom]

They offered a three year warranty and, rather than people questioning why it needed a three year warranty, everyone accepted it and Microsoft, even though it cost them $1b in repair bills, probably saved even more (the cost of a recall, replacements and R&D) because consumers are so stupid.

An absolute disgrace that after numerous revisions to the damn motherboard, the thing is still defective. Sega, Atari, Nintendo, hell, Sony, would have been ruined by it, Microsoft get away with it.

[OmegaSlayer]

LOL
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[ForROME]

I wont make feel people guilty however I will inform people who dont know about it, and why they SHOULD invest in a warranty where as with the PS3 its not needed but cant hurt to have the warranty.

At this point anyone in denial over the 360 breaking is a blind loyal person to a company who doesnt love you, get over it

to people who think the PS3 is the most superior thing ever, I agree, in hardware, software is still sparse and a joke, esp in the online fight

In the end if you can find a reliable 360 your exp will be beyong your dreams, if you have a ps3 you will feel great knowing your system will always turn on however what you get and play can be hit or miss

Eithier way, The 360 needs a re design hardware wise, and software\marketing sony needs a rebuild

[SixAmpFuze]

This means nothing , you cant say that theirs a 50+ failure rate all around. The only people that know the true number are MS. 32 million xboxs and your trying to say 16 million RROD. I think the rrod WAS more like 25%. which is still bad but n o way in hell is it at 50% MS wouldnt be making any money and it would have cost more than 1 billion to fix 16 millino consoles so Game informer go survey 32 millino people then comeback with results. Also How did they take the survey by making check marks in the magazine or online. Did they phone people. EW

[rukia_chan]

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[NotSoSilentBob]

Does this number surprise anyone? It shouldn't it was well known how big the failure rate of the 360 is/was.

[iboughtgoogle2]

I had to send my xbox in 6 times and on the 6th time microsoft sent me two xboxs intstead of one :) both of which Ive modded for I refuse to pay for anything videogames because of microsoft!

[akaFullMetal]

my first 360 e74'ed on me but my 60 gig ps3 is still going strong.

[artsaber]

Listen, I tell you this with zero hostility. The biggest question YOU should ask is "Why has Microsoft not released their own factual 360 failure percentages/rates?"
The answer, it is in their best interest NOT to disclose bad information to the public. Because it would directly or eventually affect their reputation and sales, and no matter how bad people think it may be now... Microsoft would PROBABLY be the only company on the PLANET who had a mass distributed product with a failure rate of plus 40 percent (God forbid if it actually is 50% or more).

I mean, Microsoft could cut to the chase right? Nope, because their books are probably in such a mess, that it would take the best lawyers a decade to decipher and compile a case worth having - after they try to sort out the sales vs. returns vs. warranty vs. cost vs initial failure rates vs. quality control vs. the fact that Microsoft willingly sold ME and YOU a defective product.

The fact that many feel the NEED to buy a 3rd party warranty in order to feel safe to game is ridiculous. And why is 50% such a ridiculous figure when I have SEVERAL friends who have a personal 75% failure rate... and a few with 66%, I have had the best luck of us all and I am sitting pretty at 50%. You'd better thank God that it wasn't only me and my pals sampled, because the report woulda been a lot worse!

But we are all smart enough to know that the world doesn't only consist of US, the same way that those who are lucky enough to have a nice working launch console should know they do not encapsulate the world either. Regardless of your personal feelings and experience... you must retain the ability to empathize with other gamers to know what THEY are going through.

1. It is a problem that Microsoft needs to own up to, to ensure that the quality of My and YOUR OWN gaming experience continues to move in a positive direction.

2. This cannot be accepted as a business standard in ANY company or a result of ANY paid service. (Imagine if you went to Wendys and your order was incorrect 50% of the time, or your burger was consistantly 50% raw... or is a 33% raw burger just ok with you?) We cannot accept half-baked consoles either that are unreliable... would you eat at an unreliable restaurant? Nope.

3. Attempt to be pro gamer, and pro consumer... brand loyalty does not excuse blind ignorance to ANY product from ANY company. At some point, we all take a chance on products - whether if it is a cleaning item advertised to do a task, or a walkman that does/doesn't have the kind of bass or sound coming from the headphones that you've expected. But for most folks, the more expensive the item, the hotter the burn... don't support the flame that burns away out hard earned dollars.

The truth is out, let us accept it, and call for a PERMANENT FIX.(Or a SIGNIFICANT discount on the Xbox 720 - kinda like the Vista/Windows 7 exchange program.)

[SixAmpFuze]

I agree with you on many points i just dont see how a mag that " surveys" 5000 people can say ITS 54%. If you were to survey me on my ps1 and ps2 hardware failures I could tell you that my 4 ps2's all DRE and my 3 ps1's DRE. But I dotn think 50% of all ps2's had dre problems even tho I believe the ps2 problems were extremely bad and their were no paybacks to consumers. My launch 360 just rrod on me 2 months ago so Once again I do believe the figure is high 25%-30% but not in the 40% or 50's

[rafael05]

I really liked the 360 and i have had both ps3 and 360 for awhile but my launch 360 rroed on me,i later bought an elite but same thing there.Its really a shame.I really like halo series and gears but i cant trust the hardware so its ps3 all the way now.

[Socomer 1979]

54.2%

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Xbox 360 Failure Rate is 54.2 Percent !

check out our soilders shoot it up!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[DW]

it's more like 100%; all of my boys that has/had a 360 had to either get it re-furbished, or replaced one or more times. I myself had one, it broke, repaired it, and I sold it ... its sad, they said they fixed it, but I don't see a solid fix no where ... it's frustrating.

[Socomer 1979]

You have more of a chance of missing at point blank range than you do of not getting rrod.

So its best to get your marines to do the job.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I really suggest people start taking thier rroded 360's and shooting the crap out of it. it takes the weight off of your shoulders. trust me.

[DW]

that's nuts, that video is from last year, goes to show, people have been upset for some time now, so that 50% is nuts ... then again, looking at the video, I don't think playing an xbox/ps in the sandy desert heat is a good idea guys :/

[-MD-]

Warranty ez.

[Gun_Senshi]

Where I live X360 has 6 months warranty and repairing the same console not giving you a new one, and god knows the wait.

[air1]

you sony fanatics are something else.

wanna know why we still support it? cause micro covers the repair at no cost to us, when will you ppl understand that?

i could just imagine how many sony fanatics lied on that survey..

i would much rather be in the 54% failure rate with a good warranty than in a 10% and no warranty but hey thats just me...

[frnkyl]

You make a fair point, but on the other hand which isn't likely, maybe most of the people who voted really did have their 360s break. About the warranty, I think it's people's preference, some people will like that it's there and not care if the console breaks, some people won't like their consoles to break in the first place.

[air1]

hey maybe it is 54% lets just say it is while i can understand that no one wants their console to break but if it does its a free fix. yea maybe you have to stay on the phone for some time and wait for the fix when sent out .

would it make you feel better if your ps3 ylod'd on you as long as its only 10%? i know i didnt like it believe it or not i got the ylod and had to pay when i only had it for like 7 months.

this is reality sh!t happens if it was sony i still wouldnt jump ship just casue i love to game i wouldnt want either one to go just so that i can have a much better variety.

all im saying is that at the very least micro took the hit for there mistake, something sony is not known to do, dre anyone?? but i know i know it wasnt as high of a failure rate.

if you ask me ibm did it to micro they didnt admit it in the book but they did say that they didnt like it at first cause sony started with them first. you should read that book. "bing" it ;)

[Lou-Cipher]

You sir belong at the circus, because you are one of the biggest clowns on the internet.

I cant believe the nonsense that is spewed from your unintelligent blinded fanboy mouths.

55% failure rate is not acceptable, no matter how long the warranty is.

I don't care if Microsoft was forced to give a 10 year warranty, it still does not take away from the fact that the 360 is the worst made hardware in the history of consumer electronics.

A longer warranty is NOT A FIX.

There is no excuse for a 55% failure rate.

[air1]

and who the fvck are you to say what is acceptable and what isnt? what fvcking high horse you think you are on?

wtf is unintelligent? that i dont have to pay for rrod and i had to pay for ylod? what should i feel better cause i was only apart of a 10%? fvcking moron...

a longer warranty is not a fix you are right. it is long enough till there is a fix if this sh!t was even real, we are talking about a poll from a magazine here, i think i would need more then just that to tell me that the failure is at 55%.

now why dont you build a bridge and get over the fact that to this day the ps3 is in, well you know..

all i know is that sony better pray they never fvck up cause clowns like this jump ship quick.

[Aceluffy]

Please stop with your lying, if your PS3 YLOD'ed within your 1 year warranty period, Sony will fix it for you for free, usually the shipping method is UPS, my neighbour experienced this, he asked me if he did something wrong and I told him just contact Sony and then 2 days later an empty box was sent by UPS, all he gotta do is send only the PS3 console, no cable no nothing and then a week later he got back his PS3 in good working condition. You must have mess around with the seal, that's why Sony charged you....or it never even happened, hard to tell with your clear bias toward your saviour company that is M$.
On topic, let's wrap this around your little head: Does a 3 years warranty on a gaming console looks natural to you ? M$ just did that out of the goodness in their corporate heart ? Not to avoid the flood of lawsuits ? Not to avoid recall ? Well, believe what you want to believe, but PS3 and Wii is much more reliable than 360, no one on Earth can spin this. Good day to you sir

[air1]

i never opened it, but i guess i had it for a year and 1 day :(

look sony fanatics we all get it a 3 year warranty doesnt look natural, they did it so that they would avoid law suits, recalls etc. regardless its fvcking free damn, we all know this. what better way to say im sorry then offering a free fix? wtf you ppl need to stop acting like you are buying your mother back from micro or something.

there is no spinning that the 360 has a high failure rate. but dont act all ignorant like if micro didnt step up. they fvcked up, if you ask me ibm had something to do with it, but what would you know. yes the system is flawed we know that but it has great games and yu ppl act as if you cant game for months and sh!t over rrod.. see if you just had both consoles you would just get over this issue..

but you ride on the high horse, mr.ego..

[JYstiq808]

You bought a ps3 and never opened it for a year, and 1 day and then you say it YLOD on you? Haha your so delusional it's funny. Don't get mad because 360's failure rate being high IS A FACT. Just keep it up with your brain-washed comments, I find them entertaining to read.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

And we will have another article bchn and whining about the same subject next week. Like it has for years. Got anything else?

[Anon1974]

I, for one, having suffered through 3 console returns on my 4th 360 would much rather have a product that didn't break down rather then a 3 year warranty. Oh wait...I do have that! My PS3!

The point is we keep hearing about this because it's still an issue. Bury your head in the sand if you want to, but it's a huge pain in the ass and probably the reason why the PS3 since it launched sold 23 million consoles at a higher price point in it's first 2 1/2 years versus the 360's 19 million consoles in it's first 2 1/2 years. If Microsoft had fixed the problem they'd be selling millions more then they are now because the 360 is an excellent console...when it's working. There's no way it should be still be outsold by the Wii despite being cheaper. The 360 is 10 times the games console the Wii is.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

You have done that whine reply to me before. I didn't care then and don't now. Get over it. Move on.

[monkey602]

I've had 2 elites RROD on me. My third one has been broken for 4 months now. I havent been bothered to get it fixed at all. There hasn't been a single game on it to tempt me since, at least not one I can get on my PS3. I will get it fixed eventually. I want Mass Effect 2

[ToriQ]

& factually actually 360 still sells more end of story period

[bobdog626]

31mill and counting is more than Sony has so stop your blood clod crying you noobs

[Anon1974]

Are you talking about 2007? No..no that can't be right. The PS3 and 360 sold neck and neck in 2007. 2008? No..again they came out to a tie. You must then be talking about 2009 then, right? Let's check those numbers. Actually, the 360 is outselling the PS3...by 190,000 consoles for the first half of the year...so they're still neck and neck despite the PS3 being twice the price.
"& factually actually 360 still sells more"
Did you mean in the US? Where you talking about just one month? Because the numbers don't seem to back you up over the long run. Actually, "factually" the PS3 is selling more units considering the time each has been on the market.

Oh...wait! You probably mean the 360 was outselling for that year that it had no next gen competition! That's true. Sorry...my mistake!

[NaiNaiNai]

Darkrider can you fit 190,000 360 in your house? no...then its not neck and neck.

[phalanx_mark]

you have to think how many 360 sales are generated by people replacing their consoles which have fallen out of warranty. i know friends who have bought jasper arcades and swapped out their hard drive

[Blow Out Your Brains]

yea, and we all know why....

BECAUSE THEY BREAK EVERY OTHER MONTH U NOOB

and morons like you continue to buy defective products while M$ anals you

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

to give me a number, not Gamestop's magazine. Although if there were any bias I would think it would be for the XBox's favor. It's like buying a house where you know something is wrong, but the seller refuses to tell you what it is.

Market research is my living, and I'd love to do market research for the game industry.

[Shendow]

I don't think playing the system to long is the problem when it comes to 360, I only got about 45 or 50 hours out of only one of the 4 360's I own. My PS3 I played over 50 hours (I mean total, not by day) an I even play 360 an PS3 24/7 an my PS3 hasn't die but my 360 act up but now RROD.

I'm so luck at not getting RROD but not lucky at keeping it alive -_- but in the same time I got NES an alot of old systems to fall back on.

@NaiNaiNai

Yeah but the only systems that are really dieing out are the lunch ones, which isn't a shock in most ways an you can't put that next to the 360. Why? Because 360 had a good time to get things fix but notthing has been and Sony has already fix it an add a fan to push the heat out (Which is the only one I tell people to buy) if it has a fan, then buy it.

Then again their is some people that buy a 360 or PS3 that just don't even take care of their systems, I see people bring in a Elite that was full of dust (But it is a great system they say)yeah -_- only if you take care of it and same happen with PS3's and I seen my friend at GameStop tell a kid no on selling his PS3 because it was pack full of dust.

[F N A Pepper]

i have owned three xbox 360's none of which have gotten the RROD, the first one i gave to my brother and it still works to this day, and was purchased the first month the xbox 360 was out. the other two i have are elites and i have one for my son and one for me which get used endlessly, and i still have had no failure. now on a side note i also have a wii and a ps3 and neither of those have failed either yet. My ps3 suffers from some network issues every now and then but its easy enough to get around, just reset the modem and router and i'm good to go. but these since i've never seen this problem and have owned three and all my friends who've owned them haven't had any issues either i'm inclined to believe these numbers are bogus, but i'm not tryin to start any argument i'm just saying it seems to me these numbers are bogus. wonder what is the cause of all this RROD stuff, is it just players who don't know how to keep their electronics in open cool places? who knows i welcome replies but would like to not be trashed just because i've never had this problem.

[Shendow]

Well two things the numbers came from (Just a guess)

1. People that couldn't take care of their system an think Microsoft is at fault.

2. 360 does have a big fail rate and Microsoft doesn't want to give a real number because it hurts business.

So far my problems have been hardware an not RROD, I only really use 360 for Halo.

[bobdog626]

4ry's and only RR once and they replaced it for Free. I believe you FNA Pepper. This is a Bunch of Bull !

[moscardini7]

54% dammmmmmm is crazy

[bobdog626]

Had RROD only once and never paid a penny to get it fixed. I sell PS3 and Xbox's and they rarly come back .54.2 percent is bull .for every 2 sold one come's back . That my friend is bull$#@!.

[UltimatePS3]

Dam you Xbox fangoblins just got your a*s handed to yous over 16M broken consels lol lol lol lol hahahahaha ahahahha mwahahah mwahahahahah fkn hillarious and especially the part where the article states that the most shocking statistic is where only about 4% said they wouldn't buy another Xbox due to the sh!tty hardware of a sh!tty console, get it up yea fools.

[djfullshred]

That is a crazy # of failures. If anywhere close to that, it is a sad statement for product quality these days, and it is taking advantage of consumers that really get addicted to these electronic devices. Of course people are gonna buy another one when the last one dies, because they have several hundred or even thousands of dollars invested in games for a specific platform. My PS3 is about 18 months old, and it just died on me a few days ago. Regardless whether paying to fix it, or buying a new one, I will have to because of my game library.

It is irritating, because back in the day, I would buy electronics & they would last until I threw them away for being too obsolete. Nowadays, you are glad if something lasts two years.

[Frizzo]

And this is the truth, going by the console count that many gamers trust, run by vgchartzcom. this is the math of the situation.

If there are 23,160,000 PS3's sold to date, - their 10.6% failure rate 2,454,960, that = 20,705,040 PS3's total that are still working without the need to be fixed.

Now for the Xbox360, There are 31,300,000 sold to date, - their 54.2% failure rate 16,964,600, that = 14,335,400 360's still working without the need to be fixed.

20,705,040 - 14,335,400 = 6,369,640 more PS3's

Thats pretty Nifty if you ask me.

[IRetrouk]

those numbers look about right im on my 5th xbox, fu.king joke aint it,but im still using launch ps3 that tells me all i need to know. bubbles for you my friend

[rivithed]

I'm not surprised. Sounds like more RRODs are happening after the system update too. It's just too bad Xbox 360 customers aren't standing up for themselves. We went through quite a few discussions a week ago on this: http://www.gamingbits.com/c... and I'm sure there are many more to come as this snowballs.

[morkendo]

54% SH'T!!!!! THATS CRAZY PS3 here they come charge!!!!!

[bigjclassic]

I cannot and will not get a console to wait for it to mess up. I have been a gamer for too long and dont want to play the waiting game to see if my console is gonna breakdown.

In other news, the sheeple still support 360.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I've had no problems with my console so I'm a sheeple?

GTFO!

[shad0w70]

The fact that Sony fanboys are in here by the swarm says it all! bashing MS for poor quallity when having serious quality issues of their own, (YLOD & faulty BR dioads) just gos to show how much of a "cancer" on the internet you guys truely are! Sony's class action lawsuit is on it's way! So, let's wait see what Sony has too say when they release their true numbers shall we?

[umair_s51]

Yo talk sense man, you can't deny the fact 360 is poor hardware. Its a fact

[ps12&3lover]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THATS FUNNY..THAT PIECE OF SH1T BOX HAS 54% FAILURE RATE..AND WHY OH WHY DO THESE DUMB FANGIRLS KEEP BUYING IT...

[GiantEnemyCrab]

What a deceptive title. A site has a poll and then you extrapolate that into a 54.2 percent failure rate for the 360? LMAO!

I thought N4G banned the consumerist? If not, they should.

[Nate Tolar]

Never had a problem with mine...Had it for over a year and play it at least 20 hours a week over the summer..(Crosses fingers)

[Scary69]

Wow I didn't think the failure rate for the 360 was that high. Won't be buying one anytime soon.

[gumgum99]

it got worse.

>.>

<.<

that can't be good.

[Djinn]

Good god almighty. I feel sorry for the poor bastard with a 360.

[ssbains]

Mine failed after 13months, luckily I had bought a one time replacement warranty from Frys. I got it switched with a new one and then sold it.

I also had a PS3 which I love and bought another PS3 for co-op when I have folks over.

The 360 in XCRAP 360 is the probability in it failing within a year- Take that Aaron Greenberg and smoke it!

[feejo]

My friend went to purolator and everybody that day in line up was people receiving their xbox 360 repaired. Me and my friend will never by that 360.

360 like a dog running in circle after his tail.

[jc48573]

scary ain't it. you guys paid for the system so you should expect it to work. Don't let microsoft brainwash you anymore.

[Mindsucker]

You FAngirls and boy are pathetic If it aint true then whats there to worry about you TOOLS

[foreverflame]

my 360 has never RROD on me if it ever did you best bet ill re-buy a 360 again ill never ever join you dead last ppl.jump in.i only stick to winners and the winners are the 360

[Mindsucker]

THat is just ingenious you sound brainwashed what kind of tool are you I am curious. I think your a monkey wretch because it is people like you who make the 360 look bad you fool

[crom]

ironically, this might be sad for ms, but it's testament to how loyal their fan base are this gen. despite this sad stat, their turning a profit and doing well as opose to sony. sad but true. i guess good line ups and live support are relevent.

[foreverflame]

Is it funny how your sonybots are getting beating by a system that breaks down all the time??? lmao GI is crap anyway i call this fake,my 360 could rrod on me 100 times and i would still buy that system over a sh1tty PS3.

[JYstiq808]

lol.. go ahead and do that, while everyone else laughs at you.. the only one that looks stupid is you.. haha

You know birds of a feather flock together. Did you vote bush also?

haha

[N4G king]

faiiiiiiiiiiiil

what's a "sonybot" ???????????

and you call GI crap
yet if they posted anything against Sony
it well be the other way around ??

[iyc44]

A couple months ago I was at my friend's and we were gaming on his 360, playing re5, then the 360 made a huge noise during an intense fight and suddenly powered off, he tried to turn it on again, but started flashing the rrod, oh man was he pissed , and as horrible as it sounds I laughed.

The next week he bought a ps3. He told me his 360 was almost 2 years old. He got it fixed but sold it off. He knew it was a risk with 33% rrod but now 54%? I can't help but laugh.

[jro211]

Go ahead you idiots. Keep buying this piece of crap to fill the pockets of M$. I can't help but wonder how many of the sales are re-buys. What kills me, most people won't re-buy something if there are problems with it, so why do people lower their standards when it comes to the Xbox. As long as ya'll keep buyin, M$ will continue to bend you over.

[kaveti6616]

Makes sense in my case. I have 3 friends who have Xbox 360s and all three of them have gotten the Red Ring of Death. I have yet to get it. I don't really care if I do because I'm not a wacky materialist bastard like a lot of people on this site. Just saying.

[teedogg80]

No wonder they're so cheap lol. Man it's good to own a PS3!

[phalanx_mark]

I think overall its safe to say nintendo makes the most reliable consoles but then recently there consoles are less hi-tech so that might be a factor. PS3 reliability is hardly amazing but i think they have ironed out the flaws with the early 60Gb model. What is striking is how MS cant seem to effectively kill the RRoD problem. Its a whole new order of embarassmment for MS as consumers we shouldn't accept shoddy goods; i have never known a consumer product to have such high failure rates and still remain on the market. Make a song and dance xbox owners when you call warranty let MS know we deserve more respect!

[bunfighterii]

ACCC should look into this.

not acceptable for such an expensive device.

[stonecold3]

had smoke coming out of hte back of the system then waited for ps2 it lasted 4 years but controler the l1 button came off and the cords on it came deadly got ridd of it and got another one and i got ps3 60 at launch and the bluray was jumping on my screen took back to sony got some money refunded and 2 years and 5mnths storong my ps3 is all good but ive seen ps3 in local second pawn broker shop they asked if i could put one of there game in and the ps3 was not taking it or either someone ubused the system i think it was either 40, 80 ps3 but now with m$ that its unnceptable and i was nearly thinking of buying one after all ps3 games out im ghetting i do have a friend with one and he has had it since last xmas and it has 1 green light i saw what was working and im not sure if it is on its way out joy

[JYstiq808]

Stonecold3? nice name you got there, I bet I can figure out what kind of person you are ;D

Couldn't understand your story.. Maybe calm down and try again later? I dunno?

[phalanx_mark]

There's not one full stop in your post!

[SpiderPS3]

the 360 is faulty hardware

[Claudinho69]

i gotta better things to do with my money than throw it away

[memphis2]

this is another reason why xbox fails. that is why the xbox was so cheap to begin with to produce. i'm surprised that microsoft has not recalled 360. this is why i own ps3 and wii.

[lagoonalight]

Well, let us hope the rate is still not 50 percent or there should be some trouble for this company. I mean, seriously, companies rarely get away with stuff like this and Micro seems to have done a great job. I know for fact they have leased space on UPS grounds in texas because it saves them shipping so it is still happening but at 50% I find hard to believe. I hope.

[skatezero246]

I don't believe these numbers all three of the consoles numbers seem inflated

[nightelfmohawk]

The DC is epic. XD

[JannikD]

I bought a 360 and loved it. When it red ringed just after one year I decided to be rid of it. Eventually I purchased a PS3 and haven't looked back. None of the exclusives on 360 appeal to me. Well, that's not true. The exclusives that DO appeal to me are eventually ported to PC so I can have my cake and eat it too. Microsoft has created a shoddy product that I can no longer support.

[Allowen]

This gen does have some very cool games but I did not like it and I am thinking to go back to play games in a high end PC.
here is why:

-Bugged games all the time on Xbox360, PSP and PS3 and 1 in 1000 on the Nintendo's vgs but they lack a lot on graphic power.

-High resolution games but all I see is the 720P on most exclusive games .
When I bought a PS3 I was thinking to play all games in full HD and so I would forget about the high resolution on PC's games.

-I already lost 2xPS3 , my Nintendo Wii and DS had to go to the maintence x2 .... and if I had a 360 it would have broken as well since the 50pct faillure rate problem.

-Unfinished or unpolished games all the time since there is a war bettewn MS VS SOny on the exclusive games area.

-If I remember right the PS3 was supposed to get some MMoRPGs and Aion was one of then. Now I see that Aion will remain exclusive for the PC.

[Sanzee]

#500 Baby! That's Me!

[player-1]

enjoy your -bubbles.

[djtek184]

As I was drinking a soda while logging onto N4G and saw the headline , "54.2% failure rate" I regurgitated out the soda all over my keyboard, fell off my chair & almost died laughing.

[robotnik]

15m xbox 360 consoles are broken? Oh dear God.

Microsoft is the sheer image of evil, and Bill Gates is its representation on Earth.

[JackBNimble]

While I do agree that failure rates are out of controll I have yet to see the Game informer source to prove this artical's even valid.

Meanwhile my PS3 is dying!

[BenderDGreat82]

100% for me too...I've had 2 consoles and both have died on me. 54.2% is pretty damn believable.

[gameman]

here you go foks a typical bot in action

[player-1]

What a surprise....

[Javier19]

LMAO What bullsh*t

Statistics mean nothing to the individual.

I've had my 360 well over a year and not a problem, PS3 for 2 and not a problem.

Yet out of all my friends (more have xbox) Only 2 I know have had RRoD, yet I know 6 people who have had there PS3 die on them, and one of them had it happen twice.

[Big Boss Extreme]

lmao

[Claudinho69]

how can this be allowed

[Neo604]

my comment is so insignificant.

[Neo604]

worthing of that name.

[fr0sty]

if 50% of 360's croaked, that means MS only has about 15 million actually working 360's on the market, while they refurbish the dead ones. That would put PS3 at a nice lead if you took that into account.

That said, last gen the same could be said about PS2. I'm willing to bet that at least 40-50 million of those have had DRE's by now.

[IRetrouk]

the 360 RROD IS STILL JUST AS BAD, I HAVE NOW BEEN SENT MY 4TH XBOX FROM MICROSOFT THATS 5 CONSOLES IN JUST OVER 2 YEARS IF YOU COUNT THE FIRST ONE I BOUGHT, ITS DISCUSTING I ALSO HAVE THE RED RESI EVIL XBOX AND MY SON ALSO HAS AN XBOX, HOW LONG BEFORE I HAVE TO GET THESE FIXED TOO ? WHAT I AM SAYING IS DO NOT BUY A 360, DONT BUY INTO MICROPOOS CRAP, GET A PS3 AND BE CONFIDENT THAT IT NOW HAS THE GAMES, SUPPORT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE RELIABILITY, IM NOT A FANBOY SO F..K YOU IF YOU THINK I AM, IM JUST PISSED OFF AT MS FOR CONSTANTLY GIVING ME SH.T, AND AS FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE, HA HA WHAT CUSTOMER SERVICE, THEY TALK TO YOU LIKE ITS YOUR FAULT THAT THE DAMN THING BREAKS ALL THE TIME, I ASKED FOR COMPENSATION FOR THE AMOUNT OF CONSOLES I HAVE HAD REPLACED THEY SAID THAT UP UNTILL LAST YEAR THEY GAVE AWAY FREE GAMES TO ANYONE THAT HAD 3 OR MORE 360S BREAK, SO I ASKED WHY I HADNT BEEN TOLD THIS WHEN I SENT MY 3RD CONSOLE TO GET FIXED, I DIDNT GET AN ANSWER HE SAID THAT MS DECIDED THEY WOULD REPLACE AN FIX CONSOLES FASTER AS THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT, THATS A LIE AS IT STILL TOOK ALMOST 5 WEEKS TO SEND ME A REPLACMENT, SO TO ALL THOSE THAT DEFEND XBOX, GIVE IT UP PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUTH IM NOT SLAGGING MS JUST TO SLAG THEM I AM A GAMER THAT HAS BEEN BENT OVER TOO MUCH, NEXT GEN I SEE A TURN IN TIDES AGAIN, I FOR ONE WILL NOT BE BUYING MS NEXT CONSOLE, THEY ARE COMPLEATLY USLESS AS A GAMES MACHINE, NO RELIABILITY AND NOW THE BIGGEST EXCLUSIVE IS A HALO DLC MAGICALLY TURNED INTO A RETAIL GAME, WOW HALO 3 GRAPHICS ENGINE WITH A NEW CHARATER AND A SEMI OPEN WORLD, SO EXCITING AND FORZA 3, YEAH I WILL BUY IT BUT GT WILL BE HERE SOON SOOOOOO...... 2 XBOX 360S FOR SALE A 20 GIG WHITE PRO AND A 120 GIG RED RESI ELITE BOTH WITH 2 CONTROLLERS AND CHOICE OF GAMES ANYONE INTERESTED?

[stonedog]

I agree that the failure rate is terrible and it is very very very annoying when your 360 fails. I am on my third one; but the 3yr warranty keeps you locked in along with the games that you have already purchased and xbox live; the system is a lot fun when it is working. Also the replcement with a arcade remains the cheapest option ( after all I already have the hdd. I am sure that this has been part of M$ strategy.

My 360 will go out of warranty this December then I will replace it with an arcade if it dies. I own a PS3 but have yet to find games compelling on this system although this year x-mas looks promising.

[hybridtheory12]

i was going to get an xbox tomorrow! But now...im def getting a ps3 instead of a cruddy console tht craps out this much!

[MiloGarret]

Best comment section ever, so full of win.

OT: Yup, sounds about right.

[cencik]

after reading all comments i conclude that all xbox360 users should get my message http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[teto83]

that is what you get. 54%? dude come on don't they have quality control in MS? Can the government do something about it? this is so wrong.

if you buy an xbox you deserved what's coming.

RRoD COMING SOON TO 360 NEAR YOU!

[teto83]

ignorant consumer = xbox owner

MS needs to get their act together imagine if toyota had this failure rate. i bet even the goverment would get involved cause consumers would b!tch about it, too sad xbots just like to get it quietly in butt.

so much owning... lol

[moscardini7]

54.2 omg this history don't remenber last time I see hardware fall 54.2
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