Flaws of the motion controllers

PolarityGamers writes:
All three motion controllers are in fact some form of CGI motion capture. For the Wii, we have two fix IR source for triangulation calculation to find Wiimote's relative position. For the PS3, we have a camera tracking a glowing sphere, and calculate distance base on size of the sphere getting bigger and smaller moving in and out of the camera. And we have Natal, it uses an IR projector to capture a 3D image (much like a radar gun) and use programing to track joints of a person's body.

[Sonyslave3]

Damn Droids are still hatting on NAtal but love their purple dildo magic wand look mamma it turn red with i shove it up my ass.

ahahahahahah droids are going to love their dildo only on f@gstation 3 .

[Deviant]

dude ...its about gaming -.-
so pitiful

[DNAgent]

it turn red with i shove
turn red with i shove
RED WITH I SHOVE

[ArcticWolfUK]

go get a life, seriously

[Omegasyde]

I believe that the "glowing" sphere is also Infa red,I believe that the colors reflect a stance or gaming mode.

Natal has demonstrated 1:1 motion tracking yet and quite some lag. Its still in development but from what I have seen I am not impressed "yet".

Sony's lack of support for the Eyetoy in general makes believe they will only throw mini-games at the motion-wands. Nintendo on the other hand was built from the ground up on the motion controls. Therefore, Nintendo won't be knocked from the top from the casual gamer throne.

[Godmars290]

The odd thing is that this "lack of support" includes voice recognition games that could have lead to a hands free UI.

And while Natal wont be short of "carnival" games, its easy to see where MS can do one better with exercise programs with the inclusion of weights and other physical tools.

[Jaces]

Only time will tell. But as of now I'm not impressed with either.

[Godmars290]

Which doesn't stop stupidly fanboy-orgasmic articles such as this from being written.

[Jaces]

Well they have to cling on to something, a bit pathetic really. They act like its the second coming of Christ or something.

[Qui-Gon Jim]

You're getting some disagrees, but i agree with you. I think Sony was testing those waters with the EyeToy, but it got a fairly cool reception. If they had, back then, had the perspective that the Wii has brought to the industry, they could have really captured the casual market that the Wii has now.

There is actually a video from five years ago in which Richard Marks talks about how they were, at the time, working with the exact same technology that Project Natal now uses: the z-camera from 3DV. Perhaps they passed on it because they didn't think it was worth investing in more technology for a market that wasn't (yet) big enough to support it.

If Sony had had the proper vision for it, they would have done a few years ago everything that Microsoft is being praised for "pioneering" now.

[randomwiz]

"People are lazy, they like to sit on the couch and enjoy their entertainment with a can of beer by their side."

I wouldn't describe us lazy, but I would rather say that most people play video games to relax.

[KingKionic]

I believe in MS and SONY!

[RealityCheck]

I have a lot of doubts about both Sony and MS motion controllers as far as benefiting non-casual games but at least in both cases it is just an optional add-on.

As long as they also keep making traditional games with the time proven 2 thumbstick controllers, then everybody wins. The casuals get more choice and the traditional players still get to play the way it makes sense for their games.

[ngg12345]

So hard. I can't wait to see people reaction 2 years from now. When it gets 5/10 across the board when it releases. Unless microsoft puts in a controller, and has this 'no controller nonsense' it will be eyetoy 2.

[Qui-Gon Jim]

I will agree that it isn't as impressive as shown in the staged promo videos, though.

[spirited]

are not even out yet
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WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!

[Godmars290]

Honestly, its biggest motion control title is Wii sports. Which I'm sure has raised the bar to such a level that neither MS nor Sony will *ever* come close to with Natal or the wand...

[Briefcase Joe]

"Motion control runs a fine line between making a game fun and turning a game into a workout routine. The question is not “Can it be done?”, but it’s “Is it fun to do so?” Until we have a breakthrough answer, motion control will remain “casual”"

If I have to sweat to beat a game, I'm out.

[ApocalypseShadow]

nintendo made it standard.the wiimote will always be supported by 99.9% of the games it gets.M+ for nintendo is just another slice of cake.its just that the graphics suck on wii for me to care.i've already seen gamecube graphics.

sony had the ideas even before nintendo with eyetoy.but never really supported it outside europe.look at youtube videos and you will see many things sony could have and should have done.could be one of the reasons why phil harrison left because he knew that casual gaming and things like eyetoy would sell if supported.

betcha he was pissed nintendo was selling this stuff.eyetoy alone sold over 15 million.and singstar has also sold millions.sony just never took the full risk.don't know why with 100+ million customers on ps2.but they do have a second chance with 1:1 motion under dr marks.

microsoft has a cool idea.even if it takes many ideas from sony's past.and voice recognition was done on ps2.i had it.just don't raise your voice because she wouldn't understand.had to be clear.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

the only thing is that they wowed gamers with it but had nothing mind blowing to back it up.they used a fake commercial with no demos onstage to back it.and milo was also a pre made video.

SLOPPING PAINT AND KICKING BALLS DID NOT LOOK FUN.the kicker is that microsoft announced NO RELEASE DATE and NO GAMES.

but we'll see what happens as all three have games to show and release in the future.as a core gamer,i was expecting stuff like this.just like the japanese,i was tired of playing the same way with the same type of games.it's why most haven't jumped to HD.but love bluray to the point it rules japan.they want new type of games.not just pretty games....course,i love pretty games.i want both.

apocalypse................

[KingKionic]

Sony didn't announce any ether . Well i guess the date sony did but no games anounced. The way i see the new "motion controllers" is that there`s a lot of skepticism because of no games announced . I guess most of skepticism on Natal. Ps motion more practical . Games like oblivion and etc would benefit threw them right away.

[bjornbear]

It was obv both devs were desperate to show "I CAN DO IT TOO!!!" without actually backing it up with any substantial games (Natal had Ricochet though).

Still, both basically tried to gnaw at Nintendo's ankles this E3...eventually when games DO come out it'll be interesting.

Till then, Sony's wands looked promising from a 1:1 point of view. Natal looked promising from a general use point of view, and motion plus looked utterly antique compared to the two =P

However, Nintendo has loads of games coming for motion+, whereas MS and Sony have none =P so...not impressed, and until i see GAMES!

Motion tech peripherals are only a reality to me on the Wii (PSEye and Eye Pet don't count - ITS SO CUTE THOUGH =D)

[N4Flamers]

All the stuff ms showed seemed fun to me, well fun to play with my young son. They showed a ball kicking game, the paint, the skateboard game, the karate game, the driving game and milo. I guess you actually have to pay some freaking attention, but go ahead and rewind E3 you'll see im right. Oh yeah and that monster stomping game that kid played. Seriously fanboys.

I do agree that the idea of playing any motion controlled hardcore game seems farfetched. I mean I am going to use natal to switch through my home video setup ala minority report. I think a few fun games with my son is all I can see happening. The writer is right there is only so much working out people are going to do before the game becomes taxing and then they associate the disturbance with the game and decide not to play anymore.

[lonix]

nintendo should rehash the powerglove!!!

it would be more fun than waving my arms around like a F#c#Knuckle

[lonix]

I love the Power Glove. It's so bad!

[frnkyl]

wouldn't it be funny to see people grab thin air when playing Natal? i mean like if u didn't know he was playing wouldn't u think he was crazy? XD

[N4Flamers]

How the hell is this news.