GTA IV Sales: Split 50/50 over Xbox and PS3

Take-Two has revealed that the 13 million units of Grand Theft Auto IV it has sold are split more or less evenly across platforms.

Speaking in a conference call following Take-Two's recent financials, one analyst asked, "...can you give us an idea as to this 13 million GTA 4 units, how many of those are Xbox 360 platform? So what's the addressable market for the downloadable The Lost and Damned."

The response from Lainie Goldstein, CFO of Take-Two, was, "It's approximately 50/50, Ed."

Summary taken from spong

[GWAVE]

So it looks as if -- despite the much lower price of the 360, the exclusive DLC, and the greater 360 installed base -- the PS3 still went toe-to-toe with the 360.

*waits for people to say "Bu bu bu but the PS3 version didn't sell MORE LOLOLOLOL! teh fail!"*

EDIT: Looks like I didn't have to wait long. Hiruma jumped right in there with some BS, as usual.

[Simon_Brezhnev]

yep i could had sworn all the 360 fanboys was like it sold more on 360 lmao

[Hiruma Youchi]

Why dont you mention the guys at the time who were saying the PS3 version sold more because of the Piracy on Xbox360?

[PirateThom]

Guess people don't care about DLC after all.

[Pennywise]

Hiruma... What would the point of that be?? R* Actually lost money because of that, so deduct the money taken from them for the pirated versions and the PS3 made them way more money.

Was that supposed to be a positive statement towards the 360?

[meepmoopmeep]

i traded in GTA4 months ago

[Kleptic]

can't say this is very surprising...the 360 has a much larger installed base through out the US...driving sales GTAIV sales up for that platform...

and the PS3 had MGS4 right around the corner...a much more attractive reason to buy a PS3 if you didn't own either system...buy the 360 if you want to play GTAIV and some DLC in a year...buy the PS3 if you want to play GTAIV and then MGS4 about a month later...I know 10 people personally that chose the latter rather than the former...but obviously, as not much has changed in the gap between the PS3 and 360...many went with the 360, at least in the US...overall the game did next to nothing at console sales though...it just sold well throughout both platform bases...

[Mr Pumblechook]

I dont understand how it can be approximately equal sales on both formats?
The Xbox 360 was released one and a half years before the PlayStation 3 in Europe.
Over in the UK the 360 is HALF the price of the PlayStation 3.
Shouldn't that mean that much the 360 sales vastly outstrip the PS3?
Shouldn't that mean that at least 75% of sales are on the 360?

Either Rockstar is lying about GTA IV sales being equal on both formats.
Or Microsoft is lying about the number of 360s sold (excluding re-buys)
SOMEONE IS LYING.

[mugoldeneagle03]

It's still good news.

Especially considering that around GT4's launch last year (about a year from now) the PlayStation 3 hadn't sold nearly as well as it has since then.

Good news for Sony

[thenickel]

Oh so now all of the sudden gta matters to the sony fanboys lol. All this shows is that a once playstation title can do just as good if not better on the 360.

[PirateThom]

Some nice spin there, the GTA series was never PS exclusive. All it shows is that PS3 games sell as well as 360 games even with the smaller install base.

[Pennywise]

Silly noob gamers who think GTA was a PS exclusive are a joke.

Nickel, we dont care about GTA all of a sudden... we care about making all of the people who ran their mouth about PS3 game sales being bad look stupid.

The PS3 had a higher attach rate regardless of the DLC. People are not just buying PS3 for bluray like your buddies like to say. Everyone online on my friends lists are playing games most of the time.

[Ghoul]

whats that smell ?

damn another troll crouching out of theyre bridge.
fanboys try to spin it as you like

its a + for sony on this one.
more expensive console
no dlc
smaller installbase

you guys where to one allways braging about attach rates.
well ps3 has a higher attach rate on gta4 then the 360.
but i bet you can spin that one too. right ?

[Pizzagaki]

Pizzagaki says LOL, Nothing beats Pizzagaki his PS3, the xbox will be overtaken in 2009.

[Lifendz]

Paid 50 million for 2 exclusive episodes of DLC, marketed the game heavily as being on 360, has the higher install base and was a cheaper system, and yet the PS3 version sold just as well and moved more PS3 hardware.

Maybe instead of paying for exclusive DLC MS can pay for new and exclusive IPs?

[thenickel]

"The PS3 had a higher attach rate regardless of the DLC."

And since when did attach rates start to matter so much to you and your following? You guy's and gals are looking for any reason what so ever to nit pic and spin this into a PS3 did better debate. This is good news for Rock star and nothing more. Soon there are going to be more PS3 is in 3rd to stay articles popping up and I wonder what the excuse will be this time.

[Pennywise]

Nickel - The only thing I care about is making your guys look stupid. I think I succeed pretty well at that. Its the whole foot in the mouth syndrome you have.(maybe not you personally)

Xbox fans started with sales/attach rates/metacritic BS. I dont care as long as I like a game and there are enough ppl playing online for me.

I get to take out some aggression on this website and with the constant flow of idiots around these parts, they keep me quite busy.

Now go back to putting your fingers in your ears and screaming "lalalalalala I cant hear you so it must not be true"

[ceedubya9]

Its a plus for both.

Both sold well on each platform, everybody made money in the long run. The aproximately even sales means that there was a good market for the game on both consoles, and a simultaneous release was a good thing to do for Rockstar to take advantage of the current market trend.

[Mindboggle]

I hope this once again teaches people to not trust vgchartz as they are complete bullcrap....

[StayHigh]

the ps3 version is the best to buy since you dont have to worry about the rrod (360 virus)i personally dont care about dlc because why would i pay extra money when it should be in the game from the start.also dont get me started on dvd9 my cousin always buy used 360 games it would always be scratched up like hell or itdont work at all and he had to make two trips to exchange .360 fanboys pick quantity over quality it be there biggest downfall

[Saigon]

this was the reason they did not mention the DLC number for LnD...either way this was a win/win situation for all 3 companies...Though it was more in favor in Sony...most likley the sales were 7mil to 6mil if it was considered almost even...

[GrandTheftZamboni]

VGChartz lists following data for GTA IV:

PS3 5.46m
360 6.87m

1.4 million (~25 percent) off in favour of 360.

[Saigon]

You speak the truth...somebody is lying...

[indysurfn]

Dispite it having DLC for xbox360 and dispite the better textures and frame rate on xbox360 it should have a higher attach rate on PS3 and thus a 50/50 split. The xbox360 has too many AAA Million sellers for GTA IV to have such a high attach rate. There are simply too many competing block buster titles on 360. There are now 32 Million + sellers on xbox360, and barely 10 million on PS3. So this sounds about right. Even though the NPD numbers put it at about 59/41 Maybe the CFO was being nice, and not specific. 59/41 is a split. The setting put him under pressure to show all the eggs are not in one basket. It is a financial event after all.

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[Blademask]

I've never felt as taken as I did with GTA4. It was such a scam, all the preview hype everything. Then the real game was the worst in recent history, it improved nothing from San Andreas and in fact, REMOVED features.

People try to pretend they dont care about the extra missions like working out and crap in SA "LOL if i wanted the SIMS id play the SIMS!" Yet you're the same people driving around to darts and cookies every 10 minutes? F- This game. Rockstar has owned everyone and they are laughing allllllll the way to the bank for creating the most underhwhelming EMPTY non-interactive city they could. The game is a ghost town with nothing to do.

I'd hate if the DLC for this game is the only GAME I'd have to look forward to other than a watered down rts and a ninja qte game, but folks.. Rockstar is the winner here.

GTA4 was the biggest scam in gaming history, and you guys are too busy figuring out who was scammed more? Come on. Petitions hsould be made for how uninspiring this title was for a gta title.

Hell, play saints row 2 and tell me its not the better "GTA" type game. Tera Patrick... come on. GTA lost its raunchy street cred with GTA4. It wasn't even offensive. After you get used to the way people fell, the game got boring amazingly quick.

brb gotta go pickup my cousin.

[kevnb]

If the install base for both consoles gets anywhere close to equal, multiplat games will sell much better on ps3... who is actually equipped to burn and download 20 gig games?

[kevnb]

lol at the brb, like we all really miss you and anticipate your next comment.

[slayorofgods]

This proves the the PS3 can sell games afterall despite publishers thinking that the 360 would make them more money. To the guy that thinks someone is lying, I'd trust 3rd party developers numbers over sony or microsoft released numbers.

[eagle21]

and its going to get much worse in the coming years for 360. :)

[soxfan2005]

"About", "generally", and "approximately" (taken directly from the article) regarding the 50/50 comment are hardly strong enough terms to draw any conclusions about either console.

[cayal]

"To all you idiots that dont understand what Himura was trying to say; Yes according to this site it was 50/50 but you have to take piracy into consideration. If pirate games weren't available on the 360 you could definitly say the 360 version would've sold more."

Flawed logic there Einstein. If piracy wasn't available, there is nothing to suggest those who did pirate would have bought it.

"Plus take into consideration there are way more games and better quality games on the 360. When GTA came out on the PS3 there wasn't that much more to choose from."

Speaking of idiots...

[Argento-Nox]

@1.9 Thenickel

Nice spin there nickel, considering GTA was also on the xbox1.

Thankfully, you don't have to pay everyone a nickel for every irrelevant fanboy comment you make, otherwise you'd have to think up a new username.

[EzekielRAGE]

The Rockstar exclusive for the ps3 is a revamped gtasa. This was a huge letdown.

[DaTruth]

That was some of the worst fanboy drivel I have ever read

You're all a bunch of FANBOYS!!! All of you!!!

@Blademask: I buy one game every 3 months(except for November) so always PS3 exclusives. This is the one multiplatform I bought and I still play it all the time. It's the only game I can pop in and screw around for 45 mins or so. But you're right about the story and I couldn't even play it again for the trophies. Which makes a new story(L&theD) a big no-no.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

"It is GTA after all. Duh."

How did you accumulate such flawed logic? Just because its a GTA game doesn't mean people would pay money for it. It only means the game will be pirated even more.

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

European SKUs bring in more revenue. PS3 sells more games in Europe. Therefore, even if there is a small sales diference in favor of 360, PS3 makes up by selling more in Europe.

[AAACE5]

The fanboys have something to argue about...

Seeing how so many Ps3 (and 360) owners said GTA 4 sucked.... Why does anyone care?

[pixelsword]

Buying the DLC kept you from flopping in sales, but to be fair it didn't make you pull ahead, either; which was the intent of the exclusive DLC in the first place.

[frayer]

bubu but 360 sellz moere... Ps3 dnt sellz gamezs... DLC sellz gamesz

[White-Sharingan]

I just wonder why people say the bullshit statement of: Bu..bu...but...but..for the full experience you need the DLC.

No you dont, the full experience is already IN the game, DLC is just something extra, besides the lost and the damn didnt have to do anything with Niko

[Kleptic]

funny how I couldn't even get through 'part of the experience'...I have not put the game in my ps3 once since MGS4 released in June...not one time...still at like 55% complete or something...no plans on finishing it anytime soon, may go back through eventually for the trophies...but even then...boring game imo...

[pwnsause]

apparently that statement did not apply to a game Like Tomb Raider: Underworld which managed to sell more on the PS3 than on the 360 despite the exclusive DLC that the 360 version gets.

[Ghoul]

pwnsauce

becasue noone cares about exclusiv dlc other then hardcore gamers and fanboys. sorry guys its a fact, you cant sell more units by aving exclusive dlc.

[MURKERR]

considering the install base at the time,i honestly thought the 360 would have sold more considering the price/DLC ..im surprised

all in all 13 mill sold thats a great achievement for rockstar

[ape007]

cut the ps3 price and pay for gta 5 exclusivity

sony,it will be the biggest move you'll ever made this gen

[komp]

@ ape007

I dont think sony will need to pay for it :D

Im sure R* are dissapointed in someways too.

[TreborRversed]

13 million units sold, that is some number from Rockstar

Whats the biggest selling game of all time?

[cayal]

Mario by a long shot

[SprSynJn]

I am thinking with the recent comments by one of the developers at Rockstar, that the next installment could be exclusive to the Playstation 3 due to space restrictions. Had the sales not been so equal, i.e. it being more sold on the 360, then I could see that being a hindrance to Sony. But, seeing as though they both sold equally, I can see Rockstar actually taking the gamble to go with more size amidst the possibility in losing sales. I am pretty sure half of those possible 13 million, if they haven't already, would buy a PS3 for that game. It is that popular of a series, and I bet there are many customers who want a PS3 despite the higher price tag.

[Omega4]

Seem like the franchise has found a new home then

Just think of all those PS2 owners Sony failed to convert and who chose the 360 instead

I wonder if it will be the same with RE5 and FFXIII only time will tell

[Avenged Sevenfold]

There's over 140 million ps2 owners out there. Chances are that at least 50% of them will be buying a Ps3.

[GWAVE]

LOL. You never fail to amuse me with your spin.

So, assuming that GTA found a new home on the 360 with a larger installed base, a cheaper console, a "better" online setup, and exclusive DLC content, why is it that the PS3 sold just as well with a smaller installed base, a more expensive console, an "inferior" online setup, and no DLC content?

It seems to me that GTA is still quite comfortable on the Playstation brand.

[MURKERR]

and considering the 360s install base and the much touted DLC and 360 is half the price of a ps3 i dont think microsoft will be celebrating to much especially as the 50mil DLC didnt entice as much as they wanted it to

[Omega4]

Well considering GTA on the PS2 sold well over 13ml on the single platform, yeah i would say its found a new home

Seems like brand loyalty is dead and those 120ml PS2 owners probably wont be converting to the PS3 very easily

[Ghoul]

omega4 its time

disagree, pull bubble, ignore.

[Chubear]

The xbox only sold 25mill last gen and the 360 has only currently gotten to the 27mill mark this gen. That means that, after 4yrs on the market, it has only just gotten it's original base to convert.

A vast majority of the 150mill PS2 consumers jumped on the PS2 at the end of its 4th year and just went on a tear from then on. It'll be the same on the PS3 with the PS2 base jumping on in drones at the same time period. Just like it was with the PS1.

Had the 360 sold 50mill by now you could say yes, they got a chunk of the PS2 base but that's not the case at all. They've just managed to get their xbox base and the 360 is about to be discontinued within the next 2yrs.

[Pennywise]

Keep bubbling yourself up Omega.

Do you realize that with PS2 sales - xbox360 sales + PS3 sales = 90 million people??????????? (Far from over)

And plus a lot of the casuals didnt buy a 360, they bought a wii.

[rockleex]

Anyways, I think the Wii is the console that MIGHT have taken a chunk of PS2 owners... for now.

Its VERY likely that those PS2 owners who went with a Wii... only did it for its low starting price. They'll most likely convert to the PS3 once its price drops. Especially since most of the sequels for their favorite PS2 series probably won't come out on the Wii.

[soxfan2005]

@4.6 - The current generation is not comparable to the PS2/Xbox generation. PS2 overtook Dreamcast in it's first year, and was never behind Xbox of Gamecube. Don't forget, PS2 was $299, Dreamcast was $149 when PS2 launched. Last generation, people had no problem paying double for PS2. PS2 outsold all competitors, without any price cut, from day one. That is not the case now. PS3 is in it's third year, and is still trailing 2 competitors. That NEVER happened with PS1 or PS2.

[Avenged Sevenfold]

Wow, I remember when fanboys and "analysts" said the 360 version will outsell the PS3 2:1. Anyway good job Take-Two and Rockstar.

[N4PS3G]

well..American Analyst talk about North America ....and it did outsell it in North America

[Avenged Sevenfold]

Still, America isn't the center of the universe, is it now? This doesn't excuse the 360 fanboys for acting like GTA4's home is on the 360 and Micro treats it more or less like a 360 exclusive.

[thenickel]

America is the center of the universe so get use to it.

[twoface]

Seems like you have some disagrees there

[Ghoul]

lol @ nickel

hey guys you see irony when it shi.s in your face ?

well avenged, to some extend its incredible how loyal americans are to an american product. patriotism at its finest, its almost everytime an american user, downplaying the ps3, spreading fake articles, spinning news and glorifying anything ms does.

sad but true

[UltimateIdiot911]

I'm an US citizen and I do not think US is the center of the universe. I also hate many of the american brand product as they tend to die pretty quick compare to foreign brand products.

And Americans wonder why most of the world think of US as aholes of the world. It's quite an obvious reason and it's not jealousy. Starts with an E.

[Ghoul]

ups i revoke my comment

thenickel is an american shortminded patriot. please stay in usa.
btw usa is so far away from beeing the center of the world its incredible.

[Why o why]

typical. You are a j**k. A disrespect to all of your compatriots. Everybody knows the UK is the centre of the universe. Do you speak english or 'american' ...lol

[The gaming GOD]

See, THAT my friend is what I called "close-minded thinking"

Ignorant mentality like that is why our country is in the bad shape it is (among other reasons of course). Most other countries hate us BECAUSE of close-minded thinkers like yourself nickel

And yes, I AM American

[gamesmaster]

i'm surprised at you nickel, i would have thought man of your age would be a little more open minded. if you have children i feel bad for them, growing up thinking where they are is the center of the universe for "us foreign fu*ks".

i'm willing to bet you dont have a passport since theres nothing of interest outside of your boarders apart from oil, i beleive you dont need a passport to drop a bomb on an "inferior" culture.

hey, i'm from Britain and i even recognize the colonialism.

[iHEARTboobs]

"America, Fcuk yeah!" haha, that's what you sound like, you tool. Calling him anti-american then telling him to gtfo of the country? Doesn't he have free speech, free will? Isn't that part of America? You're the one that sounds anti-American you fake Rocketeer.

[ELite_Ghost]

funny how ps3 had no dlc...

gta4 sucks anyway

[TreborRversed]

Rockstar are a 3rd party company, they can do what ever the hell they want with their franchise.

Sony would much rather spend the money making 1st or 2nd part IP's and I agree.

So we lose exclusivity of soume of our greatest games, we still get to play them, plus we'll have some amazing brand new exclusives.

And you people do know that Sony have sign an exclusive deal with Rockstar on for a brand new franchise, see i'd rather a brand new set of games than a GTA brand that is obviously lacking in ideas, not saying its awful just where do they go next.

[Bathyj]

Hahahahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHA

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA HA

[TheMART]

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So it looks as if -- despite the much lower price of the 360, the exclusive DLC, and the greater 360 installed base -- the PS3 still went toe-to-toe with the 360.

*waits for people to say "Bu bu bu but the PS3 version didn't sell MORE LOLOLOLOL! teh fail!"*

EDIT: Looks like I didn't have to wait long. Hiruma jumped right in there with some BS, as usual. "

Still the Playstation brand lost an console exclusive, that really started last gen the PS2 to sell to the mass of people.

Second, I can remember Sony fans were saying the PS3 version would outsell the 360 version because the franchise had been Playstation bound in the past. It didn't.

The 360 version is still the most complete version. Anyone having to jump in still buying a console and if that person is a GTA fan, there really is no other choice then the 360 version.

Selling the same on the 360 or a bit more because now the DLC 1st pack is out and 2nd pack is upcoming, is a big thing seen the large Playstation fanbase for GTA.

Enough evidence for other former Playstation exclusives to jump ship and earn bucks on the 360.

[PirateThom]

Or less reason to make 360 exclusives if big games sell as well on PS3 even with the lower install base?

Spin is fun, isn't it?

[Bathyj]

God your such a shill. Listen to yourself do the hard sell.

And your talking crap as usual. No one with any sense said PS3 would outsell the XB version. Not with XB having about double the consoles at the time. Most of the PS3 fans worth listening too, myself included predicted about 3:2 in XB's favor while the Bot elite like you were insisting it would be 2:1.

Well guess what? We were both wrong, and you're in full damage control mode already trying to move units yourself. Haha. Gotta sure up them numbers pal.

[Power_Of_Flops_]

I like your tears, thefart. Go on crying please.

[Pennywise]

You stupid dolt: "Still the Playstation brand lost an console exclusive, that really started last gen the PS2 to sell to the mass of people."

The original Grand Theft Auto was developed in DOS, and then later ported to Microsoft Windows (using SciTech MGL), Sony PlayStation, and Game Boy Color.

Grand Theft Auto 2 (abbreviated as GTA2) is a video game that was released worldwide on October 22, 1999, by developer DMA Design (now Rockstar North); initially for the Windows operating system and the PlayStation console. The game was later ported to the Dreamcast console and the Game Boy Color. It is the sequel to 1997 hit Grand Theft Auto. The PC and Dreamcast versions of GTA2 are both rated M by the ESRB. The language and violence were toned down for the PlayStation and Game Boy Color versions which received a T rating.[1] Rockstar now offers the PC version as registerware for free download at their website.[2]. GTA2 was preceded by the original Grand Theft Auto and ultimately succeeded by Grand Theft Auto III.

Grand Theft Auto III (abbreviated as GTA III) is a sandbox-style action-adventure computer and video game developed by DMA Design (now Rockstar North), and published by Rockstar Games. It is the first 3D title in the Grand Theft Auto (GTA) series and the third original title overall. It was released in October 2001 for the PlayStation 2, May 2002 for Windows, and in November 2003 for the Xbox. The game is preceded by Grand Theft Auto 2 and succeeded by Grand Theft Auto: Vice City.

SORRY FOR THE WALL OF TEXT, But its all I can do when my foot wont reach this guys face.

[Dimitri]

Its funny how Microsoft said that XBOX 360 would be a new home to GTA 4 hehehe.

[TreborRversed]

Look at my above post Mart, oh please do lol

[zag]

The strange thing is, your assuming the 360 version sold more.

Take2 or R* havn't said any numbers so it's a toss up either way.

Maybe they are keeping things quiet as the PS3 version may have sold more without the DLC and they don't want to make MS 50 mill look like it was wasted.

GTA5 is said to be PS3 only (wait and see?) maybe that's your answer there.

[phalanges]

The next installment wont be exclusive to any console (unless one sides pays for it). Everyone will get to play.

[360]

I think the fact that a game that is not very good sold 13m on hype alone is the biggest shocker

[twoface]

And I remembered the victory declarations of the definitive versions on the 360.

[BGDad]

They clearly lost focus this time around or maybe its a new dev team. Either way I didnt care for it much. Wasnt bad just wasnt what i expected i guess.

[IronAva]

Does it really matter? I mean come on now, most of the people here are all on edge and will be the first one to jump and say the game is over rated this and over rated that. As long as I get to play the game I do not care how many copies are sold as well as the system it sold the most on. I think sometimes we tend to forget that they are only games. No matter what happens, the world not not stop spinning if the PS3 outsold every other system or if the 360 continued to sale at its current pace.

[Dandiego]

Very nice but here are the real numbers

1 Grand Theft Auto IV 5.46m ps3
2 Grand Theft Auto IV 6.87m xbox360

[GWAVE]

According to who?

[gdguide]

VGChartz vs Take Two? LOL! Guesses vs the best source in the world from the actual company. Nice!

[The gaming GOD]

I hope you aren't basing your numbers by what that comical vgchartz site says.

If you can give a REAL source, then I'll give your comment some attention. But since you can't, I'll believe Take Two's CEO over vghchartz guessed estimates or people that can't provide links to their "numbers"

[Dandiego]

You can't disagree these are the real numbers... damn people are fanboys... these are facts. It's the same as me posting a color and saying the name of the color you can't disagree. These are what we call facts. You'll get the hang of them

[Dandiego]

They say it's about 50/50... that is vague... these on the other hand are real numbers and if you look at them it's about 50/50 but not quite. IGN had numbers posted on there as well.

[The gaming GOD]

YOU are the one making claims with NO proof? You say some place has these "numbers"? Fine then post them. SO yeah, until you can do that, we pretty much CAN disagree that those are "real numbers"

The only fanboy here seems to be you at the moment. See, you came back to reply and whine and call people fanboys because of the comments your received, yet you have no LINKS to back your claims

[Dandiego]

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... people say stuff about VG Chartz but they are real numbers when Sony claimed 20 million systems VG chartz was right there with them.

[Pennywise]

lol all that and then he broke out vgcharts!!!!!!!!! hahahaha

[badz149]

funny stuff! I LOL at that too. dude...VGChartz is crap!

[xc7x]

otherwise those sales numbers place it differently so that is not the real sales number

fail

[kewlkat007]

MS should be smiling...Sony have lost some market-share just based on this game alone. This game is one of the top sellers on PS brand.

[DJ]

GTA: Vice City was released on Xbox over a year after it was released on PS2. GTA: San Andreas was released on Xbox roughly eight months after it was released on PS2.

Delayed releases lead to lower sales, which is why the GTA series never did well on Xbox. Everyone had already purchased the title on PS2. GTA IV is different since it was released on both platforms simultaneously, which is why sales weren't skewed.

You can look at Bioshock as a great example of how a multi-million selling title ends up selling far less copies on a secondary platform after a long period of time.

[iHEARTboobs]

DJ has a good point.

[gdguide]

Guys, remember that GTA really has been viewed in the past as a PS branded game more so than say an Xbox game.

What's interesting then is breaking down the people who can actually take advantage of DLC on the 360 vs every PS3 having the space to. I wonder how many people bought an Arcade as the cheapest way to play GTA, and now don't have the storage space to even download it?...

[Power_Of_Flops_]

But but but... vgchartz told me that the 360 version would win :'(

I can't believe they lied again :'(

[Pizzagaki]

Ps3 had lower market share, because the 360 had a headstart, and still the ps3 sold just as much, probably even a little more then the 360.

Pizzagaki says imagine if the Ps3 version had exclusive DLC!

[FF7numbaone]

I seem to remmeber the last Gtas being on xbox and other gaming platforms. However it did exploded on ps2 Gta2. No need to spin for both sides.

[Pizzagaki]

No spinning needed, Ps3 has lower fanbase, and no exclusive DLC, yet it stands tall to the 360 version.

[Thoreau]

the sales are equal, micro could have created an awesome game with 50 mil, but they settled for DLC?

[ShabzS]

without the dlc they PROBABLY couldn't have matched the figures with sony... anyways as of right now thanks to the dlc.. getting a gta on 360 gives more longevity than picking it for the ps from an avg consumer point of view...

[Game13a13y]

i bet half of those who bought the 360 versions didn't purchase the DLC pack as well. $20 a pop? no thanks, i bought the PS 3 version. even if its released on PS 3, i wouldn't have bought it anyway. i would rather play me some more Killzone 2 leveling up then driving around running over people on the street. i got tired of it like 30 minutes after.

[Thoreau]

5.3 -
America is the center of the universe so get use to it=the nickel

you are the reason why the few govern the many, just goes to show the average american cannot think for him/herself, unless it is group thought. i am a proud american, but we are not the center of any d@mn thing. the center of ignorance maybe. i am not the average american because i use my brain everyday. no ipod or iphone glued to my head. i did not vote for obama or mccain. i work 2 jobs and i am finishing my socio-anthropology degre.

[Why o why]

a slight rebel i see but thats ok. I also hate 'i' this and 'i' that. I couldnt vote because im british but i did favour obama just for the shake up it caused. His election actually gave me more faith in democracy. I hope ive not been misled....again.

When outsiders think of stupid americans they think of people like thenickel (or at least how he's acting) Im not stupid enough to think that he's the majority or conversely that his mindset is not common. In truth every country should promote itself and enforce patriotism but unfortunately some take it too far and xenophobia and other types of blatant disregard for everything not of 'ours' creeps in.

[360]

You could also say that the only reason those people got a 360 was for the pirated games and if not for them they would of bought a ps3 with GTA on the ps3.
In fact i can say a lot of things and some will be true and some will not

[ShabzS]

hmm 50 50 ... thats interesting... nah not really... i just dont get why everyone dissing the dlc... sure gta 4 didnt have much to do after the story but the dlc gives us what gta 4 had nailed down from the first min... story... more story = more missions and thats what kept me playing gta over and over ....

[Pennywise]

You know, I dont know if its 360 haters around here OR 360 fan haters.

I dont hate a piece of plastic. I opt not to buy it for many reasons.. but I do basically hate all the 360 fanatics that spread lies and make no sense.

[gdguide]

No hating at all on the DLC. But it does look like MS needed to pay 50 million for it to break even with the PS3 numbers. What isn't being said though is that I'm sure a lot of 360 owners will buy it again now with the DLC. But my guess is many will buy it used, so it won't show up as more sales.

[ShabzS]

yah definitely MS needed that dlc to get more ppl to buy gta on 360 ... it worked i guess... ms is still new compared to sony's fanbase... they should have really done something about the exclusivity deal...

[ps3_pwns]

so we can have a true next gen gta with all that stuff they said was going to be in there but cut out becuase the x360 couldnt keep up. freaking dvd 9 and M$ ruin everything this gen. gameing cant be the best it can be if people keep hyping the crapbox x360 becuase you can voice chat with some guy while he watching a movie and you playeing a game lol. xbots, we dont game we chat like little girls and play on p2p 8 player servers while ps3 guys play on dedicated 32 player servers soon to be 64 player servers (mag)gameing isnt about chatting abotu a tea party its about pure and oter online gameing. plus I dont want no littl kid tea party chat with racists foul mouths.

[Nelson M]

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[TreborRversed]

again look at my post above, do we need a GTA exclusive when we have so many others to show off hehe

And I don't need to list them really, we all know what they are ;)

[ShabzS]

whats really interesting is ps3 should have outsold 360 ... since gta was really a ps brand... ms got over the gta franchise through r* ps loop holes when?.. in 2004? considering how bloody new this company is to the gaming market and with all the hardware failiures its been through .... its making ps3 run for its money... even if 360 had a head start ... gta came out in only in april 08 (not even been a full year yet.. so both brands SHOULD have secured an avg audience by then) ... and during 360's early days the PS 2 people mostly would have waited a few months for the ps3 to come out as brand loyalty and the rrod scares... from wat i see it ps3 should have outsold 360...

[Unicron]

Hey Rockstar, I'd like to thank you again for snubbing half of your fanbase when it comes to DLC. GG guys, GG.

[mirroredderorrim]

GTA IV was one of the most boring games I have played... however it was a decent movie. :P

[Game13a13y]

the graphics aren't that impressive, the missions feel so repetitive, online play is pretty broken (well, i mean compare to games like COD, Warhawk, and Killzone2).

this series need some serious break thru if you ask me.

[DARK WITNESS]

you know what... i keep hearing this thing about the graphics not being all that and i have to say i don't really understand why people think that.

especially after playing the DLC... can you explain to me what was disappointing about the graphics. comparing it to other sandbox games with the same sort of theme. Have you tried the wheelman demo ? saints row 2 ( which actually looked worse then part 1)

when you look at the size of gta4's city along with all the stuff going on in the city. i mean everything from the lighting, physics, detail on the cars, buildings, the water.... what about it looks average ?

i am not having a go at anyone by the way. i would really like to debate this. i mean at first i thought it just looked very good. when i started to notice all the little details and then played some of the other sandbox games, gta kills them in my opinion. the only sandbox game that looks as good ( in my humble opinion ) is AC, but that didn't have half the things going on in the city that gta did.

anyway, thoughts anyone keeping in mind that gta4 is a sandbox game, comparing it to gears of war or GT5 prologue or some other genre of course is not really fair. what sandbox game that is " currently " out looks better ?

[Game13a13y]

huh... in my opinion, nobody has ever called it a graphical break thru or whatsoever, the graphic is pretty blend, i don't care how large the scale of the city is, when you are running through blocks and blocks of generic looking buildings, and about the cars, come on, it is what it is, generic looking. then the character facial expressions are like puppets...

its not anything terrible, it is decent. but certainly, i won't call it, "OMGGZZZZ, GTA 4 LOOOOOOOOOKS Gre4t 1!!11!"

well, anyway, there you have it, my opinion.

[badz149]

for you, for me and maybe for many more, GTAIV graphic is nothing revolutionary...YES! but before it came out, various reviewers jumped their guns on saying the graphic is the best and stretching as far as it's the best game on a console EVER! when it was released, we knew that GTAIV is not exectly what is was said it is and many were dissapointed! it's not a bad game but certainly not the best! previous GTAs were better than IV!

[DeZimatoR]

Ps3 ownerz buy no gamez!!!

So even though the PS3:
. has a lower install base
. is quite a bit more expensive
. and has no DLC whatsoever

GTA 4's sales are still even between the two platforms.

Pretty telling actually eh?

[Nelson M]

That GTA was born on the Play Station
And the Playstation owners Did their Bit
Now its up to R* to do theirs
And Make GTA5 Exclusive to the PS3

[Xbots play games]

Everyone knew the sales were split, which is why Microsoft getting both Grand Theft Auto and Resident Evil 5, anf Final Fantasy onto the 360 are the biggest coupes in gaming history. Without the $50 Million deal, the console race would be over as we speak in favor of Sony. The GTA franchise was a monster franchise for Sony. The absolute height of the PS2. Pulling consumers enough consumers to the 360 was a miraculous task that PS3 supporters and bloggers complain about to this day. I actually restarted GTA 4 to finally complete it, before I start new DLC.

[ShabzS]

exactly right... miraculous indeed

[rhood022]

The franchise may have been big on the PS2, but it was never exclusive.
GTA III onwards were all multiplatform titles. The only coup there was getting it day and date with the PS3 version.

The same can be said with RE 5. During the PS2 era, RE went multiplat. Aside from the PSOne games (which were re-released on the Gamecube), the RE series was never a Sony exclusive.

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[EzekielRAGE]

I had to force myself to get through the story to complete it. I never even tried to startover after the trophy update.

[Socomer 1979]

microsoft is struggling to maintain the lead.
dam, they paid xtra for dlc & it didn't even matter.
well I guess rstar made more money raping 360 customers.
oh & before someone yells out 360 console sales being a factor please realize the year & a half headstart &
the fact that the wii sold 2 million in 1 month.

[TreborRversed]

2 million in one month?

Fck me, I think Rockstar and Nintendo should get together and lead for world domination lol.

[DJ]

And very surprising considering the install base difference of 6 million units. But a higher attach rate for the PS3 SKU was reported a long while ago, so it makes sense.

[KingME]

50/50 nothing is "ABOUT" 50/50, why didn't take two just give us the numbers. I'll tell you why, because the numbers are NOT 50/50. They just didn't want to get caught up in a bunch of hate mail from whiny fanboys. Which is pretty chicken sh!t if you ask me.

I don't believe for a second that GTAVI was split 50/50 in sells and region. Hog wash!

I see people are "still" using that lame a$$ install base crutch that seem to make them feel better. I'm not buying this until take two produces some numbers.

@below - No one can call anyone a lair, if they just put the actual numbers out. Depending on the scale, about 50/50 could be a 700,000 unit difference who knows. NUMBERS PLEASE!

The funny thing is their publishing revenue show 18% for the 360 and 15% for the PS3.

http://ir.take2games.com/re...

[twoface]

Is the 50M payout reflected anywhere inside here?

[Pennywise]

The 50M payout and maybe higher development costs for the PS3?

[Major_Tom]

And your exempt from your own stereotype because your an Xbox 360 fanboy and not a Sony Fanboy?

Please cry more.

[sarshelyam]

Of course someone is lying, but it isn't Rockstar/TT...it's not like this CC had Sony/Microsoft execs on the call so there'd be no reason to swing the numbers in favor of an even margin. It's more likely that finally Microsoft's embellishments of SHIPPED/SOLD units are finally catching up with them. It's quite popular in this industry to count a shipped unit as SOLD, be it to a retail chain, or shipped as a replacement for a defective unit. Get enough of those (come on we all know that friend who is on 360 #5/6/etc) and suddenly the sell-through is looking a bit plump. You just can't count "install-base" for sales, it's a floating number used for projections...nothing more.

Not to mention the Lost & the Damned DLC is many months too late for a lot of the early GTAIV adopters to care about. I, like many (as indicated by the volume of used product on GameStop shelves) have traded it in and L&tD isn't enough to bring me back sadly.

[Kratos19]

But I thought Microsoft fanboys always say mutliplats sell better on the 360? Odd. Just proves that MS fanboys are filthy, spiteful liars.

[Socomer 1979]

We are stronger .
we are many.
We help build our ps3.

Oh, btw !
did you know there is a resistance 2 tournament for the mlg?
its soon & first prize is $50,000.
see the information tab on your xmb!

[ps3sux]

mlg supports the sorry ass ps3?

hahahahahhahahahhaha good try

[DNAgent]

lol, mlg.

The fact that you actually like/care about it is even more funny.

[XxPh1l5t3RxX]

... this number is not copies sold it is copies shipped, and have you all forgotten the game has been released for pc, which means that the split was not 50:50 between 360 and ps3 but rather between the 360 and the ps3/pc. Even though the pc version probably sold 1/10 of what the ps3 version did, i thought it was worth mentioning anyway. Even so congratulations to the ps3 version for standing toe to toe with the 360 version in terms of sales, against all the odds.

[Obama]

Once again prove that xbots don't buy games ;)

[Xbots play games]

Top 5 PS3 Games sales..we'll even round up to make it fun

1.Grand Theft Auto 4 - 5.5 Mill (the last known numbers)
2 Call of Duty 4 - 4.1 Mil
3. Metal gear Solid 4 - 3.9 Mil
4. Motorstorm - 3.9 Mil
5. Resistance: Fall of Man - 3.6 Mil

And the Grand total is 21 Million!!! Surely the Xbots who according to the very Fake Obama (who is a very real PS3 hardliner) couldn't possible come close to the PS3 numbers with the top 5...

Top 5 Xbox 360 Games sales..rounded down to make it closer...

1. Halo 3 - 9.1 Mil (Oh snap..Halo 3 almost took out the PS3's top 2 games all by itself)

2 Call of Duty 4 - 7 million (3 Million more than the PS3's COD 4 sales)

3. Grand Theft Auto 4 - 6.8 Million (Last known numbers)

4. Gears of war - 5.8 Million (Gears sold more than ANY PS3 game ever did)

5. Call of Duty: WOW - 4.9 Million

Grand total for the Xbots who 'don't buy games'...33.6 Million games

Bottom Line

Comparing the top 5 reported numbers..Xbots bought 13.6 Million more games that PS3 gamers. I would have gone top 10 but I wanted to keep the numbers under 20 Million. The Real Obama is an Xbot anyways

Xbots play games (we buy em' first)

[zag]

mmm interesting.

As those PS3 games are all first year games, with the PS3 sold around 10 to 15 million PS3s.

What the 360 was double or something maybe more and the PS3 sold about double the amount of total PS3s in homes and around the same amount of 360s sold probably more so seeing as most 360s don't work anyway and just sit in warehouses.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

First... this had been a more or less Sony title for so long so getting this franchise and splitting the sales so far was a win from the standpoint that you took away an exclusive from Sony and did just as well.

Then there is the second view which is the exclusive download content that you bought (MS) failed to drive sales significantly over the PS3 sales so far.

What will be interesting to watch is how the rest of this years sales of GTA IV fare. I mean, Lost and Damned got great reviews and proved to be some of the best DLC ever released. That and the promise of the other exclusive content in Oct. 09 "should" spur the sale of the 360 version. What would be interesting to see is what the "used" game sales of GTA IV have been like? I imagine the 360 sales have been probably higher.

Either way...those sales totals have to feel like a mixed bag for MS.

[bigjclassic]

if they decided to go exclusive to one side. But hey they conned people into buying 13 million copies of GTA4. I know personally im done with the GTA series.

[N4Garbage]

Wow...people get so gassed up so fast.

In this world my friends 50/50 in competitive earnings are hardly EVER 50/50.

No offense but do you really believe a Ps3 game sold 6.5million copies?

There is most likely a 1.3million give or take difference between the 360 Version and Ps3 Version.

A CFO most likely wouldn't feed into this analyst raw data because it would only cause buzz on the net...too bad this CFO hasn't been to N4G.

Priceless lmao.

[farhad2k8]

So much for lost and damned eyy?

Even if that DLC came to ps3, i still wouldnt buy it lol

[Godmars290]

Well, R* is probably envious about not making twice as many DL of L&D that they could have.

[kazan]

some real angry people on this site ...sad

[Nexy]

The only real thing here is that the commercially huge GTA trademark is NO LONGER associated with SONY or PlayStation. They have lost one of their best titles.

What is even more unbearable for SONY fanboys is that it's the competition which gets more and more DLC for the title and it's very successful (just checking the facts is enough - Lost and Damned IS a great success).

Deal with this. No spin can change this. Play the games instead of trying to distort the facts. I am currently enjoying both Killzone 2 and L&D - both are cool pieces of software. Just do the samne, enjoy the games, not waste time here.

[Godmars290]

What's really sad is that 360 fanboys can't accept that GTA4 wasn't a huge success on their console despite all their noise.

That's what people need to deal with.

[Ashby_JC]

"What's really sad is that 360 fanboys can't accept that GTA4 wasn't a huge success on their console despite all their noise.

That's what people need to deal with."

Are you kidding me??

1. Selling 6 plus million units you consider NOT a success??

2. Having a once timed exclusive for SONY coming out day and date on the 360 not a success for MS??

3. Securing exclusive DLC (that has been a success) not a success??

What it seems that who cant deal with it is the SDF who feel the need to come into any GTA4 related thread to say ..the game sucked ..or I didnt like it? Thats cool...you are entitled to an opinion.

But why comment on a thread about a game you claim sucked. "Uhh I dont care about the DLC ...GTA4 sucked" ... lol come on..whatever!!

[BigBad316]

If i remember right rockstar said the PS3 had the better frame rate because of the hard drive install not xbox 360 and people that owned both like me brought the ps3 version because we trusted it more e.g. less likely to break down

[BigBad316]

to be honest the last thing i brought and played on my 360 was gears of war2 I can't see myself buy anything else for it for a bit halo wars pants and most other game are multi or ps3 exclusives unless something chance xbox 360 will just collect dust probably why i haven't seen the red rings yet I don't use it that often to over heat it

[jBat17]

who got duped into buying this game!

count me in, got on day one at that.. i remember how the hype was for this game. ign dedicated one whole week for this game.. but the game was epic fail.. bargain bin game at best..

i wonder what the numbers are for the DLC. the core game was so bad, i doubt xbots would even want to download more crap.. then again, those xbots have bad taste

[Raoh]

people (and mainly websites and companies) are getting this whole install base thing mixed up.

for instance lets say halo 3 sold 5 million copies (just picking a nice simple number) and the 360 install base is roughly 30 million (again just picking a number)

does that mean that the game is crap because 25 million people didnt buy it?

what matters is the fan base. for instance there are probably more western rpg gamers on the 360 and more jrpg gamers on the ps3 so you can tell which games will sell more on which console.

gta series has a lot of fans, so many that the numbers were split down the middle for each console. regardless of DLC or promotion.

bring halo 3 or 4 to the ps3 and it will never post the same numbers as the 360 version. not because of install base but because at the core ps3 and 360 gamers (the majority anyway) are different types of gamers and fans of certain games but not all games.......

even though gta came out for the xbox that doesnt mean they are original/hardcore gta fans...

microsoft and its fans were basing their expected sales on install base not taking into consideration what games their core community actually likes. especially when you realize that a lot of websites and xbox fans didnt care about gta4, but cared more that it wasnt a ps3 exclusive...

thats why microsoft spends money on getting whats considered playstation staples instead of investing in games that are dear to the xbox gamer.

where is the money to fund a sequel to the XBOX game Hunter: The Reckoning? I know the sequel came out on the ps2 but i consider Hunter an XBOX franchise more than anything.

the numbers arent surprising because microsoft is buying out games and DLC but not gamers.

[Xbots play games]

Back in October of last year Microsoft sold over a million more copies of GTA 4 than Sony. You can only speculate what that lead it at the moment. But when you talk about a game selling 13 million; saying about a 50/50 split it almost sounds like a drop in the bucket...but how many titles actually ever reach the million sold mark?

We have seen the recent backlash from Sony hardliners who try to discount GTA 4 as an overhyped game. This sentiment went into full swing on N4G.com after the Lost and the Damned articles started to trickle in.

But let's keep it 100% real..GTA 4 is currently the #1 selling game on the PS3 period. Nothing is coming close to topping it's numbers. Even the games at the top of the PS3 exclusives list (Killzone 2 & God of War 3) will fall short of toppling it's numbers. The game will go down as an amazing achievement in this generation.

Which is why Microsoft should be celebrating at this Take two announcement. In October 08, the Xbox 360 GTA 4 sales were pushing 7 million. Even with the delay, Lost and the damned is a huge win and reportedly may reach the 2 million number by the end of the year. E3 will most likely reveal the next chapter of DLC. If 'Lost' is any indication of what Rockstar can pull off; you may see some large numbers for the second installment of content as well.

Microsoft was mocked for the 50 Million dollar Rockstar deal when it was announced. But, it didn't stop them from pulling out the infamous GTA tattoo a couple of E3's ago...and it sure kept at least 7 million people from needing to buy a PS3 in order to experience this retail beast of a game.

Long story short: $50 Million = Priceless!!

[Ashby_JC]

"Microsoft was mocked for the 50 Million dollar Rockstar deal when it was announced. But, it didn't stop them from pulling out the infamous GTA tattoo a couple of E3's ago...and it sure kept at least 7 million people from needing to buy a PS3 in order to experience this retail beast of a game."

I have to say this paragraph is what I have been talking about from day one when MS announced they were getting GTA4 day and date as the PS3.

HOW MANY OF THAT 6Miilion + UNITS SOLD ON THE 360 WOULD HAVE BEEN PS3 SALES IF IT WAS EXCLUSIVE LIKE IN THE PAST??

Sony dropped the BALL by not securing GTA4 as an timed exclusive like in the past.

I would bet my left leg that SONYS HW sales would be ALOT closer then it is now if GTA4 was ONLY on the PS3 at launch!!!

I myself would have gotten a PS3 for GTA4....how many other ppl would have done the same. How many of the 6-7 million who got the game for there 360s who are huge fans would have gotten a PS3 for this one game.

GTA is a system seller. But being that it went multiplat it wasnt as evident.

[Raoh]

one thing i noticed during the last xmas holidays while checking the ps3 and 360 top sellers is that new 360 owners were buying a 360, a live card, a charge kit and halo 3

new ps3 owners were buying ps3, a blu ray remote and gta4

it goes back to the standard business model of the two companies and its fans

1. microsoft promotes the hell out of games and gets big quick numbers

2. sony does not promote and gets great life time sales.

3. each console buyer sees a few games as must have games for their console, halo, mgs, gta etc...

[Official General]

I remember before GTA 4 came out, that idiot Microsoft executive called Shane Kim said, "the 360 will own the launch of GTA 4". It looks like his punk-ass was dead wrong on that. And was'nt this DLC supposed to bring in more 360 sales of GTA 4? Well, HA! No it has not done it one bit, considering the 360 was released over a year earlier with a larger install base, plus exclusive DLC. MS should politley ask Rockstar to get their money back - oh actually they cant do that, legally! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

[NateDPG]

So much about 360 selling more software...

[Salta_nelas]

Nice 50M that MS spent in DLC.

[ps3sux]

wow one game matched the 360...how many multi-plats sold 2-1 ratio over ps3 on 360?
give me a break sony fanfvcks this is'nt a "victory"

[TreborRversed]

Tell you what I call victorious, having a great console with great games, I enjoy the system I'm playing on thank you very much and the competion does not appeal to me one bit.

Glad you can see a reson to own it tho.

[LostChild]

both look good but one looks a little better to you. One female ask: "So which one of us looks better." To avoid conflict, you say both look the same and leave it at that.

[dar36]

the sales should not matter to us. it should be the games that are important to us .WE ARE THE GAMERS.

[wardende]

That's the devs not rocking the boat as they want to keep Sony and MS on side. I've noticed from this website it's dominated by PS3 fanboys, note that there arent so many 360 fanboys here, they're all busy enjoying their 360 playing great games, not waiting 3 years for an overrated standard FPS like Killzone 2 to arrive.

Let me go and re-dust my PS3 paperweight down again!!

[Ldubbz]

Thats a pretty funny avatar...very clever

[Dante43]

I have to admit GTAIV is overrated, it doesnt look fun at all.

[Irish-Republican]

luv gta online its really good for playing with your friends

[Ashby_JC]

To all the people who are debating that the PS3 version sold the same as the 360 version.

Look at it like this...What if the trend continued and GTA4 was a timed exclusive like past GTAs. That would have been HUGE for SONY!!!

How many people who purchased the 360 version of GTA4 would have gotten a PS3 if it didnt come out for the 360???

I myself would have gotten a PS3 hands down if GTA4 was ONLY on the PS3!!!

When MS got it day and date it HURT sony more then anything as they would have SOLD alot more units had they had timed exclusivity as in the past.

So selling 50/50 for MS is all good being that they stopped ppl from getting PS3s to play this game!! Me included!!

[Ldubbz]

Like bees to honey. I thought a lot of you didnt even care about this game?

Obviously, They are tying to be diplomatic. About 50/50...notice that word "about"; its not very specific. And when they are asked if it was 50/50 in US, they replied yes.

We all know that isnt true. WW is one thing, but there is no way they are truly 50/50 in US. If you believe that, you are delusional.

Funny...someone brought up VGChartz numbers, and the usual crowd that hates numbers sez its BS. Really? If you combine VGChartz numbers, they are just shy of 13 Million...which is mysteriously the number of copies sold that R* stated.

Hmmm....just coincidence?

"'d like to take a moment to discuss some of our recent business highlights. We released The Lost and Damned, our first downloadable episode for Grand Theft Auto IV exclusively on Xbox LIVE. The episode received critical acclaim from the media and eclipsed first day revenue for all previous downloadable content on Xbox LIVE."

I'd say the DLC is doing pretty well. And whats even funnier is even if they were truly even, thats still a victory for MS; being that GTA was one of the biggest titles on PS2...you get the picture...

[solsub]

Spin spin spin spin spin spin spin...

[SSCOOLCHEA]

killzone 2 and ml09 the show is better

[XLiveGamer]

Funny because its obvious that the GTA4 was going to be able to achieve that quantity of copies sold on PS3. But on the side of Xbox 360 where there is not much fans of GTA manage to sold that quantity. Now remember he said: "It's approximately 50/50 key word here "aproximately". I was a fan of GTA 1-3 but then i quit playing them. Then i bought a copy of 4. Did i play 4? Yes ¿Did i like it? No ¿What i did with the copy? Trade it. "We" (because i am not the only one) people that have 1st Xbox and Xbox 360 console we also played PSOne PS2 games in the past. Why did we make the jump to Xbox? too much same old bullshit on Sony side. Now we are here enjoying this other side too. Its a shame that the majority of PS gamers don't get that we are gaming and i am sure we are gaming more than you. Remember here we have a lot of games to pick up and play them its not only a few and GTA4 its not the only that give us fun. On my list of 100 friends i remember there was like half of them on the 1st month playing GTA4 but now... lol its only around 4-7 of them. Like i told you we are having fun.

[silverchode]

mart why do you share pm's(PRIVATE messages)

[XDF]

All I know I am enjoying the Lost and Dmaned and can't wait for DLC#2 to come out.

PS3 fanboys, now go ahead with your 50/50 tied victory and keep posting to make yourself feels better. Don't you guys have KZ2 to play instead of posting these non sense?

[-EvoAnubis-]

And all I see are pointless discussions of if they lied or not. Here's a thought - who cares? Why does it matter how much it sold on the 360 vs the PS3? I mean, to us, the end users that is. I'm sure it matters to R* and TT, but why is it so important for people here?

[Allowen]

I have never played any GTA game before the GTA4 I bought for my PS3 and I loved the game.Indeed a very interesting. I thought it would be a bit more violent but it was ok the way they made it anyways.

I remember reading rumors about a GTA V to be an exclusive to the PS3 and if that comes to be true Sony will be getting the best deal ever to the PS3 that no other exclusive game on the console will be able to surpass the success of that game, not even a GTA 5 ,GoW3 , nothing .

[Allowen]

BTW for ppl that thinks that does not matter if the GTA4 sold more on the 360 or on the PS3 ,offcourse that matter.

See, Xbox360 had what 30 or 40pct more video games sold then the PS3 but still the salles on the GTA4 was split 50/50 ??

For me that means that if the rumor of a GTA5 is true to go to the PS3 only then it can really happen indead... just imagining the PS3.. the salles will go up easily 30pct when that game comes and in the end it will sell around 10-13 million copies ONLY as a PS3 exclusive.

If that thing does not bother the 360 fanboys and Microsoft then you guys are from another world.

Maybe if many xbox "fanboys" had bought the original game instead the piracy version of the GTA4 the salles of the game would be more likely split 65/35 bettewn the two vgs and that would put an interrogation on the idea about the idea if it would be worth or not to make GTa V multi plataform or not

[XDF]

It is a myth, a fanboy's wet dream, and impossible to say the least.
Think about it guys, GTA4 was the most expensive games ever made at 70 plus millions and Microsoft provided alot of support for Marketing. GTA5 will cost millions to make if not more expensive, give me one good logical reason why any developers and publishers would go exclusive when 99% of all third party games sell better on a console starting with a X.

And don't give me this BS about the piracy affect sales as multiplatform AAA games like COD WAW, Fallout 3, and MAdden 2009 all destroyed the PS3 versions in sales. Piracy on X360 is so puny that it is really a non-factor.

[Allowen]

Well, with piracy problems and considering that there are more xbox360 machines out there then the PS3 and still a game such GTA4 sold 50/50 on both video games I would think (not as a fanboy) that if there is any chance that GTA V becomes exclusive it will be not to xbox360.

I guess it will be more obvious about an exclusive GTa5 or at least a DLC for it might go to the PS3 expecially IF those atm exclusive GTA4 DLC(s) for the xbox360 comes some time this year still to the PS3 as rumor says and I don't doubt it might happen since the other exclusive FA3's DLC seems to also be coming to the PS3 after all.

As far as I know that first GTA4 dlc for the xbox360 sold 1 million and they are expecting to sell another million by the end of this year but according to what Microsoft spent buying that exclusive game and the price that it has been sold(almost $20) it should sell near 2,5 milions so they at least don't lose money but it does not seems that will really happen...
I guess that is why the rumors about this DLC also coming to the PS3....they need to make more cash from the expansion pack and so far it did not pay off yet.

I know that Xbox360 rocks and it has great games but seems that this vg is losing preaty fast its fire power to the PS3.
But that is nothing to get scared off but to think about that MS in the near future will PROBABLY have more problems to buy and secure exclusive games since the interest of the devs to launch a game for the PS3 is raising a lot month after month since games on the PS3 are selling better and better...

[Condemnedman]

Christ there are some losers on this site! I don't think I will bother coming here anymore, deluded idiot's caring who sales this and who has the best that .You should look at yourselves and grow up.. I don't mean the normal chaps trying to have a chat , I mean the total tosser's who cant let go of which system they own . You will all disappear up your own asses you are so full of sh@te.

[gameman]

what is the use of the 50m $ they spend on the DLC the two ver sold almost the same

[dj55555555]

Rockstar has stated that they will not be able to pull off the next Grand Theft Auto due to the struggles with Grand Theft Auto IV (source) on a disc that holds only 8.54 GB compared to a Blu-ray that is currently holding 50 GB. This may harm them in the long run because you see developers now a days wanting to expand their games while saving as much money as they can. Making a game on a Hi-Definition Blu- ray disc not only allows for more uncompressed raw data and more audio support, it also benefits the developer at cutting cost of production.

John Carmack, game programmer and co-founder of id Software, has brought this up many times relating to his upcoming title, Rage. He has stated thatin order to put the game onto the Xbox 360 and have it look identical to the PlayStation 3 version, they would need to put it on about four discs which would cost them a lot in production costs.He also stated thatif Microsoft does not allow for them to put this game on four discs without charging them extra, he will have to compress the game massively to have it fit on two discs degrading the visuals of the game.Developers will adopt Blu-ray because of advantages in size, as well as price. Who would not want to make a larger, cheaper game?

[Karum]

If MS make money from the 2 dlc expansions then it will have been a success from a financial standpoint.

If they were looking to increase their install base by offering more GTA than anyone else (the 2 DLC episodes) and push more software than Sony (by that I mean the full game not he full game and DLC combined) then it depends how much more they sold on 360 than on PS3 and also how many consoles were moved because of the game, I don't think either machine saw much of a leap in sales with GTA4 though so that is almost a moot point.

If it sold only marginally more then it wasn't a failure as such but it didn't do what they wanted it to do. If they had sold substantially more which according to this article they didn't then it would have been an amazing success.

Either way it shouldn't matter to us. I personally didn't enjoy GTA4, it's the first in the series I've disliked but there's millions out there that loved it I'm sure and they won't give a rats ass about microsoft's alleged gamble on GTA4.