2-Days to Vegas Info: Release, Story, Blu-ray advantage

Here are some new screens and information about 2-Days to Vegas, to be released on the Xbox 360 and PS3 next year.

2 Days to Vegas has been floating just beneath the press radar and the devs have purposely been tight-lipped regarding the game. According to Loo, this was done to keep "creative control". They even refused to look for a publisher until they get the game completely finished. So inevitably, the storyline and content were kept under lock and key - which was apparently easy considering Steel Monkey only has a small population (58).

2 Days to Vegas is a third person shooter reportedly inspired by movies' impact on people. Think of how you feel after you leave the movie theater, though that depends entirely on the movie you watched.

An in-house game engine was used and would feature global lighting and HDR lighting. They also included a "garbage generator" to simulate the clutter on the city streets. Talk about attention to detail. Loo comments on the Blu-Ray as a distribution media, "Blu-Ray solves a lot of our problems."

[techie]

This is the full article...the below one is merely one quotation.

[NoUseMerc]

This news is old...here is the link to the original:
http://www.psu.com/node/846...

[Lord Anubis]

was there any doubt blu-ray was needed.

[jwatt]

Thats good, they're taking advantage of blu-Ray. I hope Rockstar is doing the same.

[techie]

ps. have we always known 2 Days to Vegas was on the PS3? It was only announced as 360...I didn't know it was ps3 as well.

[Lord Anubis]

it was first announced as a PC, i didn't even know it was announced for the Xbox 360

[TheGoodMART]

looks like they confirmed it now

[Firewire]

Yeah I always thought this was a 360 exclusive!
Good to hear its on the PS3 & they will probably take
advantage of blu ray as well!

[techie]

"PC and next generation console versions of the game all will take benefit from this agreement"

[Firewire]

"No appears not "PC and next generation console versions of the game all will take benefit from this agreement"

So is it multi? I'm confused!

[tethered]

Loo comments on the Blu-Ray as a distribution media, "Blu-Ray solves a lot of our problems."

That is interesting. We will see.

[TheGoodMART]

Looks like blu-ray was a great investment after all, I am actually glad that sony put one in the PS3...

[nebpredude84]

NEXT YEAR!!! WHAT THE HELL!

[techie]

sorry PC should be on there...I wasn;t aware, sorry.

[power of Green]

I'v been excited for this title for ever, its a shame its coming out next year. Looks friggin stellar by the way.

[btkadams]

the streets look soooo empty in those screens...kinda disappointing

[Ludwig]

Obviously a larger media offers advantages .. the whole question is not that .. is if it helps as much as it costs .. the awnser is: only in a few genres of games such as GTA .. everybody else is going to the EXACT opposite direction ..

Games don't save the whole illumination of the maps in image files anymore .. they actualy calculate the light on the game in real time.

The more good looking the game is .. the smaller it gets ... going beyound "saved" content.

And even worst .. games in this gen are going to be much shorter . where would be the actual power of blu-ray .. doing long games.

[ShAkKa]

lots of news regarding the blu-ray on this few days sony should be very happy

[ThaGeNeCySt]

good info

[tehcellownu]

where the xbots?? they suppose to scream out dvd9 is enough? lol it looks like more games this gen will require the extra space exspecially the big ones..

[ThaGeNeCySt]

I'm here. DVD-9 is enough

[ErcsYou]

this game looks very promising but they need to get rid of those ugly chicks

[Firewire]

I really don't think theres anyway to deny the
blu ray advantage now, How many dev's have said similar
things now? And to anybody that says it doesn't matter DVD
is enough, bull! Dev's are seeing the advantage and making use of it!
Rockstar said it, Insomniac said it, Factor 5 said it! & I think
Square Enix even said it.
I'm sure other dev's have mentioned it as well!

[brianodom]

hideo kojima

[ThaGeNeCySt]

it's not bull

[Lord Anubis]

"PC and next generation console versions of the game all will take benefit from this agreement"

so does that mean their game will be the first blu-ray game for PC?

[Frulond]

BD PC drives been hitting the market for a couple months now, hope they get cheaper and as soon as they do I'm getting one for my PC.

[Rybnik]

Wow, vaporware becomes reality, eh? We all doubted these graphics back when they were shown in 2005? now they are real, it would appear. I am truly impressed. I hope the immersion of the game doesn't stop at the graphics though..I look forwards to the first game footage.

[StrboyM]

winar!!

[Bhai]

...better than GTA-IV. Here' another proof that Getaway will be real sweeet ! The game has that WOW! factor that GTA-IV lacks.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

we haven`t REALLY seen GTA runnin for REAL yet.
but i know what your sayin.
i think this being the Getaway`s 3rd game(takes time).
it has some real potential to be the "best" open world game.
GTA got good on the 3rd.
Why can`t the Getaway.
This looks Great too.

[Clinton514]

That's what I get for taking rumors too seriously :(

[IBLEEDBLU]

so i guess this game is gonna be 7-10 disc for the xbox360?????

[InMyOpinion]

Funny. They don't mention having any problems at all with the 360 version. Maybe it's easier to compress data on the 360? Who knows. I read it like "Blu-Ray solves a lot of our problems - with the Ps3."

edit* Stupid question maybe, but I'm no tech head. What problems did the bluray solve then? I'm curious since the game is possible on a dvd9 as well.

[techie]

lol you would.

You can compress media (and have to even on blu-ray) on any disc format...very strange thing to say j

[TheExecutive]

Im not sure why compressing would be easier on one console than another... anyone??

[tk]

Actually compression should work better on the Cell CPU. The SPU's should really crunch through compression as if there is no tomorrow.

But then - so what if it is on 3 or 4 DVD-9's vs 1 BluRay disk. Yes it is nicer, production cost should be lower on a single BluRay disk (packaging etc) - but in the end - so the XB360 0wners will shuffle a few disk. It is not that big a deal.

[nix]

if the developers want to go multi-platform, then they should choose either PC or PS3. no point in choosing a console which neither has HDD as a standard or HD disk drives. what's the point of cutting down the data/game/effects just because one console can't handle it. sigh!

thanks MS... gotta give you a star for making sure we're stuck in the last gen.

@Keilkat (below):

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH! now that's a big sigh, i tell ya!

ok... it's simple as maths taught in junior school. now don't tell me you never went to school.

read my lips:
M.O.R.E. S.T.O.R.A.G.E. M.E.A.N.S. M.O.R.E. C.O.N.T.E.N.T.
something like 7.1 DTS surround... now wouldn't you want that for your newly bought Elite.

it also means more and deeper storyline. greater graphics!!!

and add HDD storage to it.. it will give you faster loading time... etc etc...

XBOX DOESN'T HAVE ANY!!!

and please... blu-ray or HD-DVD are both DVD compatible.

and please... it's been 9 years since we've been stuck with this format... a move was inevitable. sony made the move... MS refuses to move! that's the fact!

DAMN! why did you bring up the PC thing again.. i said it's good to have PC as a gaming machine rather than 360!!!

[kewlkat007]

What about PC games? A year from now with the new DX10 cards, Vista gets it Drivers correct and optimized, they will blow anything away using DVD9.

No doubt you can take advantage of SPACE once you have it. Since developers now have the Blue-ray disk and if they did have the HD-DVD drive, you would see the same thing.

All I'm saying is Blue-Ray games does not automatically scream I'm better because I have more space, the game can still be junk, padded with garbage time. Longer load times and such.

My consensis have always been, when your given limited space to work with, you make sure everything is done correctly, and only the best cuts make the medium. You will see a lot of sloppyness with blue-Ray until you can really justify a SOLID 50GB game thats not mostly FMV and other junk.

Either way if their wasn't this format war going on, the 360 probably would of had a BLUE-RAY or an HD-DVD as part of the console. Of course MS never said they would not include either once the war is over. As much as people want to believe, with a lot of money at stake here, it is far from over.

On another note if there was no HD Media out this gen , you would not hear all these justifications, whining about last gen and excuses. When did we really need a new medium to come out every GEN, only to Erase your good ol' DVD collection every single time after painstakingly collecting your favorites. I mean how many fn times are you gonna have to buy Star wars Trilogy? Every 5 years?

I know we gamers might not care but for the mainstream consumer, they are the ones that can make either format popular.

[THAMMER1]

I would rather find out sooner than later if BR will be a true advantage. So far it has not been explained in a technical way other than more gigs = more space for content. But what about load times and resolutions? When will we see an advantage there? So far compressing DVD's is still working out O.K. or maybe BR will show it’s worth right before the next generation.

[Vip3r]

Looks like BD is playing off for the PS3. Pitty the 360 fanboys can't see that.

[God of Gaming]

But at what cost. The PS3 is 600 dollars.. that may keep it from gaining the numbers it needs to take the market over, meaning all games will be for the most part developed with the 360 in mind. When games like Oblivion and Mass Effect can fit on a DVD-9 its not a NEED at this point. Maybe a few years down the line but then we are looking at the next round of consoles. Its good for those of you who can afford a PS3 right now but having blue ray in the console is really hurting sales numbers (strickly based on cost), if the PS3 was 400 bucks it would be flying off the shelves, I would certainly buy one.

And seriously, most of whats going to be EXTRA on the blue ray discs will be filler.

[Gamer13]

Sick of screens.

IM OUT...///"""

[Bathyj]

I remember ages ago seeing some of them screens when announced for PS3. I hope this isn't going to be dumbed down at all. People are starting to see the light with BR. Within 6 months it will just be a known fact. Looking good.

Nix, you have a point, and I dont want to start a flame war people, but M$ has handicapped multiplat games for this gen. Its becoming more and more apparent. I hope I'm wrong but I fear you will see soon enough I'm not.

[God of Gaming]

So by your logic the PS2 handicaped last gen right? The xbox and Gamecube were more powerful and the Xbox with a built in Hard Drive and ethernet port were obviously more advanced than the PS2. I bet you sing the praises of the PS2 but it was far from the best piece of hardware last gen.

If the developers see a value in adding more content on the Blue Ray version then they will.

[THAMMER1]

You only say that because you would rather blame the 360 for the PS3 under performing. If the hardware was optimal it would not matter. No Xbox owner blamed the PS2 for the original Xbox out performing it. It was better for games in the beginning. The developers have the choice to make the game different if it is in the budget.

GTA III, and GTA SA bother were better on the Xbox when it came to frame rates and draw distances and it was apparent day one. Your logic is not only flawed but backwards. Just because people who have the same preferences agree with you dose not mean you totaly correct. RockStar will come out and say the 360 is a problem if it was that important.

[nix]

these xbox fanboys themselves don't know what's happening to their console. i like PS3 but i am not afraid to say that it's too expensive and got no games... but xbox fanboys keep supporting their console and little do they know that apart from great graphics their console is last gen! no motion sensor, no HD-Drive... just like PS2 but with better processor. it was made to simply beat PS2. PS3 is gen away!

come on xbox lovers... why not ask MS to make a console that will atleast last 5 years?!!! but i wonder MS can do that! they have absolutely no vision... they will never be leaders! they just want to walk step by step... too afraid to take a leap.

maybe they just want your money because you will be buying a new xbox every year! tch! tch! tch!

going by how the fast the HD revolution is moving... i won't be surprised if MS comes up with another console in a year just to, mind you, catch up!

seriously, there's a joke which aptly describes them -
how many MS executives will it take to change the light-bulb?
None because MS will say darkness is the standard. q:

@THAMMER (above):

dude.. no developer will come out and say - we're having problem with certain console if they are trying to come out with multi-platform games.. because of the the fear that gamers might not buy game for that console.. then it's a loss for them.

dude.. you can type, it's a feat!!! but ATLEAST use little bit of that brain that god has given you by mistake.

@THAMMER (AGAIN!!!) below:

atleast prove that whatever i just pointed out was wrong... we can always find who is the "blindest" fanboy later.. sigh!

[THAMMER1]

I was going to cut you up but I looked at you comment record and determined it was not worth it to waist any energy on you. Your a low rate fan boy and it is very evident from your comments. So yeah EAT IT.

[Bathyj]

Since you brought it up, last gen I bought the Xbox version of a game almost everytime. Even though I had all the GTA's on PS2 since they came out first, I still got them on XB later. I prefer to have the best version. And yes Xbox game could have been better if they weren't designed with a HD-less console in mind. Look at Blinx. Not possible on PS2.

Look at Halo. Do you think it would have been as good if it was multiplatform and had to run on PS2. No it would have been dumbed way down and the game would have suffered for it. Now tell me catering to the lowest common denominator is the best way to get a great game.

The fact is devs are going to stat with the lowest specs, whether it just be disc space or whatever, I'm not talking graphics power, and then maybe add slight enhancements to the higher spec if they still have time. They are not going to start with the highest, making to game to its absolute best potential and then leave bits out for the lower end.

Its acrap situation that PS3 owners (not so much now but it already shows) will be paying for i the years to come unless devs give the PS3 version the attention it deserves. I'm not that upset though. I'm more interest in the 1st and 2nd party exclusive from Sony themselves and they alreay show awesome promise.

PS, I give credit to you Guys for disagreeing without being childish enough to take bubbles just because I have a different opinion. Good for you.

[Shadow Flare]

A sentance that can speak a thousand words

[xfrgtr]

The same problem for GTA4,xbox360 is the "old gen",it sucks

[makingdamage]

Me like!
Could be a worthy opponent to GTA. Maybe. But definitely interesting looking game!

[snoop_dizzle]

if this game is multi platform, it will probably be on multiple disks for the 360. Which isn't so bad, if the game consists of levels not one open world.

But o well i have a PS3 by then so i shouldn't worry.

It could still be done on DVD9s but probably multiple disks or a dual or triple layered disk.

I think i have been hearing about triple layered disks.

[Amplifier]

Yes but X360 doesn't read triple layer DVDs...so you can forget about that nonsense. Good, bad, or indifferent, extra storage is going to be more necessary down the road with more content getting bigger due to "HD" quality. Hence the reason the PS3 is "future proof".

@mp

[snoop_dizzle]

its quite possible that Msoft might make another console. I don't mean another version of the 360, but an even more powerful console built from the ground up. It probably wouldn't be released till like 2010 or later.

And who knows, it could use blu-ray or an even more powerful format than that. Though the only thing i wonder is, um they really don't need a more powerful format.

Good point amp. I guess they will have to use multiple disks.
Either way, its no biggie, for me at least =).

[Amplifier]

Possibly, the only gripe I have with X360 is the lack of HDD in every box, would have made load times ten-fold better for caching data. Would have also made developers less caution with data compression on the DVD's available. This "options" thing is not a good idea in my opinion because "Joe Consumer" doesn't really know the big difference but price.

@mp

[nix]

MS will come out with a new console within next two years... not 360 because they are already a generation behind compared to PS3. we know that.. everyone knows that!

Sony will make consoles that will always last more than 5 years.. MS will make consoles to challenge the console sony has made... they will always play catch up!

MS came up with xbox to compete with PS2.. then they came out with 360 to beat PS2... but PS2 is still beating them in terms of sales and PS3 has beaten them in hardware department.. now.. 360 upgraded to elite to come closer to PS3 but they still need to make one more leap to over-take PS3. but then... by then PS4 will be out...

EDIT: @THAMMER (below):

POINT NO. 4. YOU BRING NOTHING NEW TO THE CONVERSATION!

tell us what MS' next step will be... come on dude.. say something... then we'll let you know if you may be right or wrong... stop laughing like a jack-ass! HE-HAW! HE-HAW!!

@ANEGO MONTOYA (below):

righto bro!!! you just said what i was pointing out!!! i think thammer is scared to come out with an opinion because we might laugh at his... come on... thammer don't worry.. we are not like you. q:

@VIRTUAL GAMER (below):

well said!!! just the point i was trying to say!!! and oh.. thammer might scoff at you.. but don't mind the poor chap... must have had a bad day... probably his 360 just conked off! q: and yes.. i agreed with you! ((((:

[THAMMER1]

NIX the bad thing is that your probably serious. WOW (Reads NIX's Comments again, gets co worker to read them too. Both laugh at how retarded NIX's comments are.) Nix if your mentally challenged I apologize but if your not I think you should try to get some fresh air.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

If MS made a new system by 2010/2011 that was more powerful, the ps3 would for sure hit the numbers of the ps2(w/a price drop).
MS`s system would be more expensive(for sure)and would sell like the ps3 is right now.
it takes a while to really start selling systems w/"next gen hardware".
and by the time it started sellin well it would be 2012/2013.
and by then the ps4 will be on the horizon which will try to "out do" MS`s system.
MS has to deal w/ the choices they`ve made and ride it out for a while.

@Thammer1
This site is for people to talk about their opinions.
what`s unbelievable? that you don`t agree w/ it.
instead of just trashing everyone elses why don`t you write yours.

[THAMMER1]

You people and your magical crystal balls. LOL I just love how you have no shame either. LOL!!!LOL!!!

[sak500]

@thammer1

Ignore these kids. Let them live in their fantasy world. We have been enjoying next gen gaming for past 17months. With a huge collection of games and lots more on the way and the quality better than the rivals what do we have to worry about? Let them think their console is the best and next gen with 1-2 games to show some quality of next gen. Rest whatever videos and screenshots we've seen so far only show slightly higher res graphics than ps2. But do remember their console can do folding@home. Now we can't beat that. Also to fill bluray will take ages and already the multi format games get delayed on their fav console.

Let say some games which utilize bluray's 50 gb capacity, already they are suffering from slower loading times, how much more patient will they have to be? Since the ram for gfx is 256 mb only, the drive will be required to be accessed more and more.

Well the pc's are still using dvd 9 format and games like Supreme comander, BF2142 can fit on single dvd. I'd rather have dvd 9 full of game content then 50gb of cgi.

The only thing is that HDD usage might become mandatory for some games but at present most developers are looking at the core model as the lowest common denominator which might be holding them back at providing the fullest content they want in their games. I'm all for discontinuing core and offering 20gb at a nominal price to the core owners so that everybody has atleast 20gb hdds in their consoles.

At present the 360 is easily beating the ps3 in all catagories for which gaming consoles are meant for. And i'm pretty sure this will remain the same in years to come.

[candystop]

What's the deal with you guys trying so hard to justify Blu-Ray? It's not needed and games like Alan Wake and Mass Effect will prove it! This is going to be a very long and hilarious generation because no matter what the same trouble makers will try and say 360 is last generation and soon will surpass 360 graphically! All you guys want to do is try and make it sound like Sony made the right decision which is silly because you guys don't have one game out that shows why it was needed!

[Ggame]

Great for Sony.

[shysun]

Cool...we'll see.;)

[VirtualGamer]

First let me say MS, with the Xbox, set a new standard for consoles. A hard drive and ethernet port in every unit. Sony with the PS2 tried to counter with add on network and hard drive but since they where not standard developers could really not take advantage of these things.

Now lets look at Sony. For the PS1 they introduced the CD as the medium for the console world. With the PS2 it was DVD. Each version trying to offer more to developers and gamers. Not only that but with the PS2 it was the first console to also be able to play DVD movies and moved the PlayStation one step closer to it being just not a games console but a media center.

So Sony comes out with the PS3. Again pushing the envelope with a larger storage medium for developers to use with Blu-Ray. This makes sense on 2 fronts. Once again Sony saw the need for more space in the future then DVD was going to be able to offer. (See comments by Rockstar Games back in 2004) Additionally since the PS2 had set the standard of also being able to play movies and the PS3 is being marketed as a HD Media console it made sense to have it play HD movies as well.

Not only that but Sony learned from what MS did with the Xbox and made sure to include a harddrive and ethernet port as standard in every unit. Initially they where going to not include a HDMI port on the 20GB unit but smartly at the last minute chose to include it. Many Xbox 360 fans gave us Sony fans alot of slack over the fact that Sony was not going to include HDMI in the 20GB version.

So MS comes with the Xbox 360 which does not include a hard drive in every unit. To me this was not a smart move as they in essence took the postion that the PS2 had compared to the Xbox last gen. To me this was definately a step backwards. They also came out with a DVD drive for games and no HDMI out in any unit. They also went on record as stating that 720p was the sweet spot and that they doubted we would see any games in 1080p or that the PS3 was even capable of it. This move did however allow them to come to market a year earlier then Sony and to gain a lead over Sony something that they felt was an advantage to the PS2 over the better tech in the Xbox. If this allows MS to gain market share on Sony then it was a gamble that paid off and to be fair 360 fans seem to be happy with what MS has delivered.

When it became evident that Sony's PS3 was going to have games in 1080p they quickly scrambled and did a software patch to the 360 in which allowed the 360 to upscale games to 1080p. One nice benifit of this however is that this also allowed DVD movies to be upscaled to 1080p something the PS3 as yet, is not able to do and I wish it did.

Addtionally now a year and a half after launching the 360 they have decided to come out with the Elite. Which has a larger HDD (120GB)and a HDMI port. Again it appears to me a move to come closer to matching the PS3 capabilities but yet does not since it still lacks a built in HD drive and it still does not address the lack of hard drive in the core unit.

I have seen 360 fans argue that this gen does not require anything more then a DVD. They state maybe in 3 to 5 years we will see the need however its looking more and more like its happening alot sooner. The nice thing for us PS3 owners is that because we paid more up front we dont't have to worry about any of this. We purchased a console that comes standard with a HDD and thus developers can take advantage of this. We purchased a console that in addition to allowing game developers to take advantage of the addtional disk space we can also watch HD movies and we can do so connecting our unit via HDMI. If I tried to match all the capabilities the PS3 offered going with the 360 I would have paid alot more money then buying a PS3 and still not gotten all the advantages the PS3 offers.

The one key advantage of the 360 at this point is XBL but this to is changing with Sony coming out with Home. Will it be better? Time will tell but Sony certainly is not just taking a we will match MS they are trying to one up them and I actually hope it works because it will then force MS to create and even better XBL. That's what competition does.

[Hayabusa 117]

The good thing about us 360 owners, is that we payed less. Yet, we still get great games.

I think Microsoft droped the hard-drive because the XBox had it, but it didn't help the console out-sell the PS2.

[chrisin3]

I don't think the actual gamers need to try and justify bluray. Enough Developers have already said it's justified. A few developers, however, have said it's not needed, but that doesn't make it unjustified. If those unconvinced developers think it's unneeded, they don't haft to use the extra space, but the developers that believe it's needed, can. That is enough to justify bluray. If some developers believe it's needed, then it's justified. The rest don't have to use the space. It hurts no one. I have a feeling that some of their feelings might change however in the next year....

Final thoughts:
Not needed doesn't mean not wanted.
Not wanted doesn't mean not useful.

[chrisin3]

Great post VirtualGamer--a little long, but well thought out. Edit: I liked how you were unbiased at the end regarding competition.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

*sighs* I wonder where the public outcry was last gen when it was the xbox that had a harddrive standard and PS2 potentially stagnating xbox ports and multiplat games

[VirtualGamer]

Its not a matter of public outcry its more a matter of looking at what having a hard drive standard in ever unit allowed MS to do with the Xbox. It was core to MS establishing XBL, something the industry had not seen before and is a great benefit to all gamers going forward. I am so thankfull for MS doing this and that Sony saw that as being key for them this time around.

I just don't understand why MS decided to not include one in the core other then they felt that having a cheaper product would help sell more units and missing the fact that it would hurt the premium and later the Elite. I mean its not just Sony fans that feel this way. Did Xbox fans not label the core as the tard pack or something like that? I would hope that going forward a hard drive is going to be standard on all consoles. Especially with digital distribution possibly taking over completely.

[hamburgerhill]

In two years we will be able to see if the no hard drive route the 360 has taken was the right one to take!

[ThaGeNeCySt]

it is a tard pack, no matter how anyone cuts it.. I won't argue there.

And you answered your own question:

"I just don't understand why MS decided to not include one in the core other then they felt that having a cheaper product would help sell more units"

^that's it... when the price drops roll around and get low enough.. a $149.99 360 will look like a pretty good buy.. at least that's what MS thinks.

[zonetrooper5]

I knew this quote would be flamebait. I still feel that for this generation of consoles that DVD9 is enough., you Sony fanboys can think otherwise if you want. I really don't mind getting off my ass and changing a disc, you had to do it when the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube was out, I'm pretty sure you had to do it in nearly every generation of consoles so far.

I felt the core pack was a tard pack and it still is, it should be scapped like the 20GB version of the PS3 was scapped. Not sure on this game, will it be a great game? Not sure yet maybe its a rental.

[TheXgamerLive]

He did'nt say what you think he said. Try to find the complete article, he's saying "blu ray solved alot of our problems that they had while programming the game for the ps3". Not that it solved all other platforms issues, he's having trouble making it for the ps3 and in that respect, yes BR has helped them w/the ps3.

Please, don't get this triumphant attitiude going, b/c it'd not true.

Also the comment about may of not fit on other media...that was the posters personal and biased comments and not the game designers so again "READ" the article/s first, and the "real and total one", removing the posters own biased feelings first.

Now maybe we can all start enjoying a post about a possible exciting game and not a fan boys twist on it.

Again, yes BR is great for sony and the ps3 b/c the weaker ps3 needs it to help the system actually being able to play a graphics/physics heavy game.

[VirtualGamer]

He did'nt say what you think he said. Try to find the complete article, he's saying "blu ray solved alot of our problems that they had while programming the game for the ps3. Not that it solved all other platforms issues, he's having trouble making it for the ps3 and in that respect, yes BR has helped them w/the ps3. "

Really? The article in this news story is getting its information directly from PSU.com Which states.

"With so much attention to detail, we asked what they thought of Blu-Ray as a distribution media. He responded, “Blu-Ray solves a lot of our problems [with fitting everything on disk].” The assets, he explained don’t come cheaply."

http://www.psu.com/node/846...

Not aware of any other source for this news so please provided the link to back up your claims.

[techie]

XGamer...there is no denying Blu-ray is an advantage, but it is just HOW MUCH of an advantage it is.

Having more media space on the PS3 does not solve problems for the PS3...the very same problems would be on the 360...what these problems would be that could be solved with disc space (what they can't program the cell so they program on the disc and use it as a rendering device...!?)

[Aramis001]

As far as programming and environments go, I completely agree with you that blu-ray is an advantage. However, from an economic standpoint it is yet to be determined whether or not it was worth the additional cost of the ps3, seeing as it may have priced Sony out of certain households.

[m9105826]

XGamer... you have a profound misunderstanding of the way these things work. The disc medium has absolutely nothing to do with the abillity of the console to process physics or graphics. It can store more graphical information, but think about what you've said. If you somehow gerry-rigged a Blu-Ray drive to an SNES, do you think it would allow for improved graphics or physics? No... it wouldn't. The fact is, the system is only as powerful as it's GPU and CPU, the disc format is all about how much content games can have. To see the future, let us look into the past:

Bill Gates: "64 Kb of RAM is all we'll ever need" - WRONG

Bill Gates: "A single layer compact disc will provide more space than we will ever be able to fill" - WRONG

Bill Gates & Microsoft: "DVD-9 is more than enough for a storage medium at this time" - ?

[chrisin3]

It's more than just changing a disk. As games become bigger, and immense roaming capabilities more prevalent, changing a disk is not only a hassle for the user, but it's a hassle for the developer. Re-duplicating much of the data from the first disk becomes inevitable, and in turn, a rather convoluted and incomplete solution.

[lil bush]

well its nice to hear somthing good about blu-ray...........

[Hayabusa 117]

I thought it was a PS3 exclusive, I was it that other game?...?

He barely said anything about Blu-ray. I was expecting a long list of features.

[gta_cb]

good looking game, shame loads of flamewars again =(

[Hayabusa 117]

All over one sentence.

[zonetrooper5]

"It's more than just changing a disk. As games become bigger, and immense roaming capabilities more prevalent, changing a disk is not only a hassle for the user, but it's a hassle for the developer. Re-duplicating much of the data from the first disk becomes inevitable, and in turn, a rather convoluted and incomplete solution."

While I do agree with you, I still don't mind changing a disk. Is Blu-Ray an advangtage? well the answer is yes, but it can only store content. Like others have said the Cell does have a limit like the Xenon, theres no doubt about that lol.

I just think the Sony fanboys/Sony are trying to say that Blu-Ray will really make a difference between the two consoles.

[chrisin3]

I know where you are coming from, and I don't believe that BluRay alone makes the difference. There are too many factors that determine gaming dominance. Personally, i see current perks to the xbox 360 even though i own a ps3, but for me, bluray is a good thing for the ps3. I believe in the technology.

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

now maybe more developers will follow suit.

[MikeGdaGod]

more stories like this will come

[Premonition]

You guys say blu ray is not needed, to get good games, well, first off you dont need it cause your console does not use it, and second, later in the future its going to come back and bite you know in the you know where, you say you dont need it now but trust me blu ray will prove you will need it later on. Tehnology grows everyday ladies and gentlemens so deal with it.

[timmyp53]

mis amigos

[carlman23]

As much as I love my PS3, the thing ain't selling. And if it ain't selling, it's not gonna get games. We can all flame Xbox as much as we want, but you can't deny that developers are giving it their all. I wish they'd phase out the stupid 'Core' system, that was a mistake. But pound for pound, unless Sony pulls something really nice out of their butts, Microsoft's still going to get versions of the PS3 games as well as some good exclusives. Graphically, the N64 looked better than the PlayStation (although the PS processor was slightly better) but I don't think anyone will argue that Nintendo had the superior system. Games are ALL THAT MATTER and the faster ALL companies realize that, the better it'll be for all of us.

[ps3FTW]

I thought this game was dead.