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GTA IV PC a buggy mess, Steam customers ask for refunds

It seems that the PC port of Grand Theft Auto IV is having some problems; the official forums are filled with people suffering from glitches, crashes, and graphical issues. Oh, my. How bad have things gotten? Gamers are reporting that Steam is actually offering refunds on a case-by-case basis.

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ElementX5611d ago (Edited 5611d ago )

Well, does Best Buy give refunds if you open a PC game and it's buggy? I don't believe you can get refunds for open merchandise. Because you are downloading a game from a service, there's nothing to "open", however I think that customers should be reading reviews and forums before they buy downloadable software.

I'm not sticking up for Rockstar, however their PC titles usually have issues from what I've read.

Pennywise5611d ago

I think games should work before going on sale. Call me old fashion.

WANNA GET HIGH5611d ago

Its offical GTA4 is the most over hyped game EVER.First people who bought it on consoles did it was too downgraded and not as fun as GTA3 now PC games say its buggy.I might never buy a GTA game again.I think R* has gotten to arogant because millions of people buy GTA every time it comes out.If GTA5 is not like GTA3 i am not buying it.

killalot1005611d ago

this reminds me of console gaming last gen. they had to have the game running as good as possible because there was no going back and none of that online patching crap. now most games release have some huge problem that needs to get patched right away and some times the patch makes things worser.

Perjoss5611d ago

"I think games should work before going on sale. Call me old fashion."

I think the last game to do this was Tetris on the original Gameboy. Maybe more companies should follow blizzards example: finish working on a game, and then test it for like a year :)

kevnb5611d ago (Edited 5611d ago )

there have been plenty of broken games since the atari days, atleast now they can patch them. I tend not to buy broken games though, and I tend not to remember them for all that long with the exception of a few games like Shaq Fu, ET, the first PS2 Tomb Raider etc...

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killalot1005611d ago

i was planning on getting this game but going to wait like i do with most pc games. this is getting worser and worser. this is a story that doesnt get much news, i understand that there are so many pc configs that no pc is ever the same. when a pc game released i feel like i am a beta tester and its bull. this is one big reason why pirating is so bad and was one reason why i pirated bioshock because the pirated version was the most stable one. i bought bioshock on steam for it to just crash so i pirated. i hate pirating games and i dont do it no matter what now but come on can this problem with pc gaming get more attention.

WANNA GET HIGH5611d ago

MGS4 says hi.That game was so polished its just insane.I did not have a single problem with the control and movement of snake,and the A.I was polished very well aswell.

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TheColbertinator5611d ago

Well I am not buying it for PC.I have never enjoyed a GTA game on PC.I feel bad for those who wanted to get the definitive PC version

TheIneffableBob5611d ago

It's really unfortunate since every other GTA for the PC has been pretty good. A little buggy, though the GTAs for the consoles were buggy too, but nowhere near as buggy as GTA IV.

locos855611d ago

GTA 4 is a huge disappointment. I hope GTA 5 brings me back to chaos happy days

kwyjibo5611d ago (Edited 5611d ago )

I disagree, but I can understand your point. The nod towards social realism that GTA IV offered was refreshing and bold, and I for one enjoyed it as did the majority of critics.

I can see that people just want some sandbox blasting. But you've got Saints Row, Crackdown and Just Cause to give you that. Isn't that enough?

locos855611d ago

I was happy with the game until I had to start keeping up my social status with most of the characters in the game. It became work. Take Roman to the strip club, the other guy to the boats, girlfriend to a date. It felt like it got in the way of havng fun. Game was good but that is what ruined it for me.

kwyjibo5611d ago

Yeah locos, actually agree with you on that bit. It's what annoyed me the most about San Andreas too, having to keep my muscle mass up and eat the right food etc.

If I wanted to play the Sims, I'd play the Sims.

THE_BATTLERAGER5611d ago

You can't rest on your laurels, so why are they doing it. I might download a torrent file of this just to spite them, they don't deserve my money for this.

(A little OT) Good old valve giving us refunds, now THERE'S a developer.
Steam is a vision of the future, I buy all the PC games on there I can, and often don't bother if it isn't on steam. I love it!

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Mainline Grand Theft Auto trailers ranked from best to worst

As we have all been graced by the release of Grand Theft Auto 6's trailer, we're ranking the best and worst GTA trailers to date.

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purple101132d ago

We be getting these posts All week now lads. Someone noticed a number plate ... Someone noticed a billboard... I can see it now

Just go on YouTube and watch one of the many videos dissecting the whole 1minite 30secs worth.

This site supposed to be for news.

roadkillers132d ago

These updates on N4G are going to ruin whats rest of this site. Unfortunate since I was one of the first members.. The site shows unsecure when i login as well.

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Grand Theft Auto 4 Anniversary: The Beginning of the Age of RAGE

Grand Theft Auto 4 is an important game for Rockstar, not least because it was the first title in the franchise to use the newly created RAGE engine.

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franwex349d ago

Wasn’t the Table Tennis game the first to use RAGE?

isarai349d ago

Was about to say the same, but they do say first "in the franchise" so 🤷

cammers1995349d ago

The fact it hasnt been remastered is insane.

Abear21349d ago

Rage engine made driving on the sidewalk in cinematic slow motion camera a blast

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Fifteen Years On, 'Grand Theft Auto IV' Is Still the Series’ Best

There’s never a bad time to relive its magic, and with rumours of a potential Grand Theft Auto IV remaster making the rounds, why wouldn’t you?

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Machina352d ago

The series' most overhyped and overrated (especially by critics) more like.

Number1TailzFan352d ago

Not sure tbh.. I'd say 3 was the most overrated. It's pretty rough to go back to, it was quite rough even trying it just after Vice City. Lack of humour and vehicles that had the weight of polystyrene with top speeds to match.

VC & the stories games (even LCS) were all fun. I remember there being a lot of praise for GTA 3 on TV and in game mags, saying it was a Dreamcast killer of a game or words to that effect, and honestly after playing it on PC I didn't think it was that special and kind of dull, had the odd moment of fun but hardly anything. I heard they cut online multiplayer at the last moment for PC, shame because it could've made all the difference.

Would've loved to have seen what kind of cartoony GTA style game they could've done on Dreamcast as a competitor, I bet something along the lines of Simpsons Hit & Run would've worked well.

BlackTar187351d ago

@numberz How can the game that defined a generation and was copied by everyone be overrated? Was a asinine comment

seanpitt23351d ago

For me 4 was better than 5 was more realistic and the physics was on another level! 5 was a major let down in that department!

Number1TailzFan351d ago

@blacktar you have your opinion i have mine. I found the game dull, and it is for the most part. It set the foundation for the much superior SA and VC however.

KwietStorm_BLM351d ago

You say GTA III is overrated because it's rough to go back to and rough to play after Vice City. Your entire opinion is in hindsight. Of course it's rough going back to it today. It came out over 20 years ago. That doesn't take away from the fact that it pioneered a lot and was a paradigm shift for a lot of trends in game development today. Vice City in a lot of ways is just a more refined version of III. It was San Andreas that took the big leap forward from a design perspective. If III doesn't release, who knows if the open world genre would be what it is now. How can that be overrated?

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1nsomniac351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

Not at all. My most played game of all time. Truly stunning accomplishment in gaming and with PC graphics mods it just took it to levels beyond anything that came before and possibly even after.

People who moan about it generally tend to be people who played it on under powered consoles and couldn’t handle the more realistic car physics. It was the slightly more realistic approach that made it stand out more. Absolutely love it. In fact I always said Vice city was my favourite of all time. But after going back to the remaster I realised 4 was actually the best.

Profchaos351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

I'm no critic and I consider it the best games in the franchise after recently replaying every entry it's story when paired in conjunction with it's DLC was and still is amazing.

shinoff2183351d ago

Lol. Fun fact. That dlc cost a certain green colored console 50 million for exclusiveness. Un heard of back then. Just to point out the hypocrisy of the 3rd party exclusive agenda going on.

Anyway how the dlc better then the base game by a mile. Lol imo

DigitallyAfflicted350d ago

I've enjoyed gta4 the most from all the others too.

DarXyde351d ago

San Andreas holds a special place in my heart. Honestly, I couldn't get into IV at all. Didn't even finish it. I had some pride in playing it at first because I'm originally a New Yorker, but it just didn't do it for me.

To each their own.

shinoff2183351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

Gta sa for sure. To this day my favorite. My least fav is gta 4 easily. Gta 4 made me feel like the dude in next friday trying to take the cd back talking about i cant get jiggy wit this.

Maybe looking back it would be 3 but 3 did so damn much for gaming in general. . My first gta was of course the top downs so the series has came a long way.

notachance350d ago

Yeah I remembered falling asleep playing the last mission in GTA4.. the most boring protagonist (out of all the voiced protag), and the town is too small.

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-Foxtrot352d ago

Not really

Overrated

Boring

Liberty City despite being a reimagined version for the HD era lacked any variety

Lacked the GTA fun charm overall

Niko was bland compared to past protagonists like Tommy, CJ or Victor

blackblades351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

GTA 2 was the best, lol my only owned GTA game. Vice city was alright when I rented it back then. I cant really say which is the best cause those the only 2 games i played but GTA 2 was fun on PC back in the day. Closes game to it that I enjoyed was SR3 and I dont care what people say. That none serious tone was fun enjoyable.

banger88352d ago

Like hell it is. San Andreas was far better, much more fun and a better game overall.

isarai352d ago

Nah, it's a masterpiece in attention to detail and the amount of immersive systems at play. But it really isn't very fun, ESPECIALLY when compared to the previous games in the series. Like tons of things are just wonky and actively kneecap lots of experimentation, or is just lame. Like why do I take huge damage when falling into water, why can I only stand in very specific large trucks when they are moving but not smaller trucks and vehicles, why is the melee combat such a massive down grade from GTA SA and GTA IV, why is the euphoria nowhere near as reactive, why is being drunk using a rasterized animation of staggering rather than the far more entertaining euphoria GTAIV and RDR used when you were drunk, why do npc vehicles barely react to you popping there tires even at high speed, etc etc.

I've always loved playing around in GTA games world. Like the campaigns are great but the majority of my time was always spent just playing in the open world. Yet GTAV is the only game in the series I never really returned to after beating it, it just lacks that fun factor the others have, I spent more time in GTA SA remastered than GTAV

chicken_in_the_corn352d ago

It's one of my least favourite GTA games. It's clunky, the ai is exploitable, it's far too long and the writing is absolutely awful.

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