Editorial: LittleBigPlanet Was A LittleBig-Flop Because Of Beta

CinemaBlend:

"Editorial: LittleBigPlanet Was A LittleBig-Flop Because Of Beta LittleBigPlanet would probably be considered the biggest, most anticipated game of the year for the PS3. Fans were estatic about the game; gaming blogs and publications were already hailing Sackboy and Sackgirl as the next Mario and Luigi; and Sony seemed to put enough interest into the game to promote it as the next mascot-based title for the PlayStation brand. However, things didn't seem to look quite as grand when the NPD results were released, and LittleBigPlanet looked more like a single-A title rather than a triple-A system seller.

I wonder if Sony is secretly resenting the "stress test" for which the beta was intended? What's funny, though, is that despite the moderate sales of LBP, Sony was apparently pleased with the results, according to VideoGamer.com. Maybe someone should tell the execs at SCE that software sales usually decline on a title as time goes on, they don't increase. Then again, they seem to be aiming the PS3 to exit the world backwards, because these are the same folks who are not planning on cutting the PS3's price during the holidays or soon after the holidays, so says PCMag.com. So I guess Sony is just running their entertainment division butt-backwards from here on out, which is not too surprising given that they thought people would be thrilled to pay $700 for the PS3 back in 2006, when the economy was already showing signs of edging toward disaster."

[EvilCackle]

Civilized discussion of the strengths and faults of the game incoming.

(yes, that was snark)

[sackboy says hi]

Yes i admit..i FLOP in SALES....

I can never be the new mario.......... :'(

[LightningPS3]

"Then again, they seem to be aiming the PS3 to exit the world backwards, because these are the same folks who are not planning on cutting the PS3's price during the holidays or soon after the holidays, so says PCMag.com. So I guess Sony is just running their entertainment division butt-backwards from here on out, which is not too surprising given that they thought people would be thrilled to pay $700 for the PS3 back in 2006"

The PS3 is in a lot of trouble.

[jaysquared]

From the start we all knew(except PS3 fans)LBP was going to be a flop because it was a console for hardcore gamers and on the most expensive console out!! So lets stop beatin a dead horse please... We don't want to make our PS3 fans who makes up 90% of the population on this site cry or do we?

@lightning- I would be very surprise if resistance 2 didn't sell at least a million this month. If it doesn't it really wont spell doom for Sony. I mean hopefully not. M$ needs the competition to keep improving the 360!

[Fallen_Angel]

"We don't want to make our PS3 fans who makes up 90% of the population on this site cry or do we?"

After months of hearing them talk about how great this game was goin to be and how it was going to single handed put the ps3 on top again ........... yeah actually I think we do.

*goes and beats the dead horse some more*

[LightningPS3]

Just wait till you see what Resistance 2 did. I would like to say that the PS3 is on life support. But it might not even be that good.

[ericnellie]

As high as the reviews were and as much hype as the game got, it's sad that it's not selling faster. If you're a Sony fanboy - get off this website and go out and buy the game instead of hitting the disagree button with everyone!!!

[jwatt]

First off I don't think the game floped and 2nd when Sony released the beta the game moved up fast on amazon's top 100. If it wasn't for the beta it would have sold less.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

U dont understand.Why people were saying this game is a flop is because the amount of hyped it got and near perfect reviews people tought it will sell like 1-2million in its first week,but it did not so people are saying it floped.I still think all this flop throw sales is dumb,i have played games that did have a huge first week like gears2,mgs4..e.t.c got and i still enjoyed it.

I did not buy LBP because its not my type of game,i like shoot em up more.U can call me narrow minded or what ever but i dont care, i buy what i have fun with and when i played LBP i did not have fun with it,i dont find creating levels fun and i did not fall for hype and a cute puppet like most people did.That dose not mean LBP is crap, i still think the game is a breth of fresh air in the gaming industry but its just not for me.Not every one like tittles that innovate,look at mirros edge it was backed with innovation and most people tought it would be one of the best FPS games but looked how it turned out.Most gamers like playing what they know they can have fun with and do not have time to adjust to something new.All i need is R2,KZ2,god of war3,halo4,gears3,uncharted2 and mgs5 and i will be a very happy gamer.

[HighDefinition]

Too Human and Haze were 'FLOPS', LittleBigPlanet is a f**kin masterpiece.

As I`ve always said, LBP will have a snowball effect in sales, 3 people I know personally are getting it next week. It`s not some brainless ultra violent shooter that only needs a commercial to sell the game, don`t treat it like one. LBP needs to be witnessed first hand before you get actually understand what kind of game it is.

Sales or NO sales, it`s the best game ever made IMO.

[HighDefinition]

All great games no doubt, but try something w/o a number at the end every once and a while.

[Mr.Mister]

is it a little flop or a big flop!!!!:D

[jaysquared]

Its both! Its LITTLE BIG FLOP!

[BlackCountryBob]

Perhaps LBP will have a long life, the creative side of the game means that the reasons to play it will only become more numerous as time goes on. Games like WiiPlay have long lives so LBP can too so long as Sony are able to use particularly the internet and YouTube to build a community and get the viral marketing going, YouTube made the Daily Show big so it happens.

Either way, why the hell should you me or anyone outside of Sony HQ give a flying **** about sales. If you bought the game and enjoyed it then great, if you didn't then thats fine too but don't think that liking games means you are some kind of demi expert in media sales and marketing.

And if the beta had such an effect on sales, explain why so many other games which received betas have not had this problem. Demos too you would think have the same issue but if I remember correctly game that have a free demo sell much better, why has every game with a demo not also experienced a big hit on sales.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

Apparently games flop based on sales now.

Do you fanboys ever quit?

Last I checked, games flopped based on score, not sales numbers. So does that mean that every game that didn't sell 1million the first day flopped?

If so, that means that are a lot of games out there that really really suck.

@blackcountrybob

Apparently we should give a crap about sales because all fanboys do, and if a game doesn't sell good, it's an auto flop.

[Edge Maverick]

Stop being a fool. Sony is happy with the numbers, fine, their business. Resistance is a flop? Maybe in a crowded FPS market unoriginality hurt its sales. PS3 on life support. Funny, the 360 had similar....actually less consoles sold by the 2 year mark than the PS3, imagine that? And software isn't selling, is that why it's on life support? COD:WaW sold nearly a million according to VGChartz, compared to the shooter hyper 360 at 1.3 million with at least 6 million more trigger happy console gamers jumped in. Tomb Raider selling better on PS3. That means that PSgamers only watch blu-ray, right?

Idiots, I swear. Change the name to Lightning360 and go troll in the openzone.

[jaysquared]

A game can be flop in both sales or scores. LBP had great reviews but flopped in sales. Too Human got bad reviews but still was able to sell a million plus. Now if you were a developer and a publisher which would you rather have? Which will make you more money? Of course how many units you sell and the more that you sell the more money you can make to develop your next game. You can have a great game but if nobody buys it how are you going to pay your workers and feed your family?

edit- and to all those who say LBP will have a "SNOWBALL EFFCT" you guys were the same people who said LBP will sell 2 million in its first day and take the PS3 over the top! Didn't happen eh?

[solidsnakus]

i think it floped in sales because it just looks too kiddy. most ps3 owners are an older crowd. if you arent into video game websites you dont know its one of the best games ever so you dont really care about it.

[Doppy]

I think something is really fishy about the sells of Little Big Planet. I live in San Francisco, and it's impossible to find a copy of the game on shelves. So I went back home to Missouri over the break, and it's still impossible to find a copy of the game.

[ultimolu]

Wow, you guys haven't really seen flops, have you? This game is FAR from a flop. Love how you people misuse the word. A flop is a terrible game?

Is Little Big Planet a terrible game?

Answer that.

[Killjoy3000]

You know what the funniest part is? It's the highest rated exclusive on any system, and it's now being considered a flop. How in the f*ck is it a flop? Trolls are just mad because it beat Gears 2 to tha title.

[yesah]

played the beta, by no means a flop but i didnt buy it. I dunno it was OK better then other games i bought but i just dont wanna.....pay for it.

[ultimolu]

And once again you slam disagrees and run away like cowards.

Can't even answer the question, right?

[jammy_70]

if this game was a flop, the olny reason is lack of advertising!
sony dont do it enough! there f**king idiots!

[pathetic fanboys]

i'm surprised you're not asking what you normally ask "who said it then? name them"

after months and months of sony fanboy/fangirls hyping this into the stratosphere, it did'nt do a fraction of what it was claimed to do. go back and look at some of your old juuken threads to see who was claiming what.

hitting the disagree and run..lol what every sony lover does on this pathetic web-site. lose a bubble coz you dont deserve them.

lbp did'nt sell millions of units and consoles because it wasn't a game that would appeal to many, and the lack of marketing did'nt help either.

the problem is, many sony fanboys go on about "outselling" "outsold", when it dont happen as they predicted, the stuff comes back and bites them in the ar$e.

me, i dont care either way. i make no money from any games or consoles sold.

[ultimolu]

And yet you're still attacking Sony fans instead of living up to your name.

"lbp did'nt sell millions of units and consoles because it wasn't a game that would appeal to many, and the lack of marketing did'nt help either."

Little Big Planet is back in the top ten on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

Holy crap, did it just move to number five in the space of two hours?! o_o

Proved ya wrong. :)

"the problem is, many sony fanboys go on about "outselling" "outsold", when it dont happen as they predicted, the stuff comes back and bites them in the ar$e."

Look at the above comment. Obviously I mentioned Amazon as a major retailer. LBP fell all the way to around 50-75 now it jumped to the number five spot.

You might want to stop...because you have no evidence of PS3 fans claiming the game was gonna sell copies and consoles (except for Nasim because he was the one who hyped it).

Bubbles are lost because of comments. It depends on what was said and how the person interpreted it.

[SL1M DADDY]

LBP for me is nowhere near a flop. In fact, it is the best game I have played in years. I can't count the number of hours I have spent playing it and there are hours left to play. Sales do not make games and to say a game flopped due to only selling a million world wide is pretty silly.

[chasuk08]

Why dont you just f off. N4g doesnt need idiots like you talking crap.

Just remember that the xbox has been out twice as long as the PS3, therefore should be gaining twice the ground. The fact is its not.

No matter what crap you keep saying the PS3 is holding its ground very well against a console thats twice the price, and when the PS3 is 3 years in and drops in price, you will see whos in trouble then.

[Saint Sony]

The problem is that there's not really that much people who wants to buy PS3 just because there are more cheaper choices with pretty wide game collection and obviously current PS3 owners are not enough to get the sales high or they just want something else than LBP.

[jaysquared]

"Just remember that the xbox has been out twice as long as the PS3, therefore should be gaining twice the ground. The fact is its not. "

And Sony dominated and i mean DOMINATED the last two console wars and shouldn't bet getting OWNED by Nintendo and M$ this bad! LOL... So your logic don't make sense! Dreamcast came out first last gen and look what happened to it. Also please learn math. The 360 has been out for 3 years now whil the PS3 has been out for 2 years now. So the 360 has not be out twice as long.

PS3 fans made no big deal about the 360 being out first because last gen the Dreamcast came out first and look what happened to them. You guys though the 360 will go in the way of the Dreamcast. Before the PS3 launch every PS3 fan was telling the 360 fans to say goodbye to the 360 because it will be the end of M$ in the console industry. But they all forgot what this "$" stands for M$! Sega didn't have the money to compete with the PS2 and thats why the Dreamcast went that way. Now its Sony that doesn't have the $$$ to compete with M$!

"No matter what crap you keep saying the PS3 is holding its ground very well against a console thats twice the price, and when the PS3 is 3 years in and drops in price, you will see whos in trouble then. "

LOL! We've heard this before. Wait till ... then the PS3 will dominate. We've been waiting for 2 years now how long is it going to take? And what makes you think that in 3 years the PS3 will be cheaper than the 360? You dont think M$ won't drop the price of the 360 for the next 3 years?

[NewZealander]

well i thought the game looked OK, but after seeing my friend actually playing it i wasnt impressed.

[GrandTheftZamboni]

Don't worry, someone will create a level with muscular men soon enough...

[NewZealander]

muscular men lol i play heaps of different games, i actually love a good platformer or family game too, thats why i thought LBP looked OK, but i couldnt tell if i really thought it looked good or if i was buying into the hype and thought it looked good because thats what i was expected to think by the fans and media, either way actually spending some time with the game made me realise that its not my thing, but dont worry i didnt like banjo kazooie either!

shame theres not more true platformers this gen.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

I have,in fact i have played LBP and i did not like it....

[WANNA GET HIGH]

U got it spot on. Have a bubble.

[GrandTheftZamboni]

I was judging based on your avatar:) I'm surprised that since you have sense of humour, you didn't like LBP. Fair enough, I guess it's not everyone's cup of tea. There's plenty of other good games...

[Marquis_de_Sade]

NewZealander, I think you meant to say

'LBP looked amazing, but after watching my friend play it, I was blown away by the sheer awesomness of it, GOTY AAA blaa blaa blaa'

However, you didn't, hence the mass of fanboys who disagreed. I own LBP but rarely play it in all honesty(Blame Resistance 2). Don't get me wrong its a solid game, just couldn't get into, I always check each week though to see how the levels are coming along and there are some impressive creations.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

not a success . wow people are fkn retarded

[sackboy says hi]

I suck......

LBP=EPIC FAIL

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA XD

[kwicksandz]

Sales are respectable but no where near the blockbuster it was hyped to be.

[Salta_nelas]

Despite weak sales LBP is the best rated game ths gen, to bad people didnt buy it, this happens quite a lot with PS3 exclusive, dont know why but consumers dont buy many games as they used to last gen.

Sorry for MM that made an amazing game and created an icon imo.

[miniduf1]

Actually LBP is not the highest next gen rated game i have no idea where you get your stats from. At gamerankings.com Super Mario Galaxy, GTA IV, Orange Box and Bioshock are all ranked heigher.

[Blademask]

just fyi.

[Cenobia]

I think he meant exclusive.

Either way, GTA was extremely over hyped, didn't deserve the scores it got and definitley isn't the best game so far this gen.

LBP is a great game, and I think it deserves the 9-10's.

As for the article, I was in the beta and I can't wait to get it. The economy is what is preventing me from doing so. If I could afford any games at the moment, that's the first one I'd get.

Also, I personally don't care about sales. My favorite games (Ico, SotC) weren't exactly blockbusters, but that doesn't make them any less awesome.

[miniduf1]

What does it matter if it is a PS3 exclusive or not, neither myself or the op brought up the issue of consoles. Exclusive or not it is still not the highest rated game of this generation.

[badkolo]

you mnean on the ps3 they dont buy games, the 360 has many many many million sellers and 360 people buygames.

[Raptors]

And this is in no way a mean to disrespect the ps3 as a gaming machine but I think you and a whole lot of other ppl do not realize the amount of people who bought there ps3 just for movie purposes.
I was on a couple of av forums and the most bought and sought after blu ray player was and still is the ps3. The majority of the posters who owned them showed VERY expensive set ups with the ps3 being at the heart of their systems. The problem is most of them commented and stated they never really use it for gaming.
Of course i can't use that reasoning to explain the attach rate, however, it is definitely a viable reason as to why software sales arent as high as the wii's and 360's.

[Surfman]

Flop and LittleBigPlanet are 2 words that doesnt fit in the same sentence.

[wicked]

They do, you just did it...

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

Why no story saying why the xBox 360 is a Flop for???
You know, it's cheaper than the Wii in the U.S.of.A and it still can't beat it??? (3 Months in a row now) + Only sold 20ish Million in 3 years??? WTF!!! THAT'S A FLOP!!! ;-D
(+Yeah i'll say that a Milllion of times on this to!!!) ;)

LBP IS NOT A FLOP!!! To all the haters on this Go F**K Yourselves to!!! Stupid internet people :-/

[dukadork]

we're having a ball playing the best games of this generation while xbollox morons count beans and try to divert the world's attention from their tiny penises

[earwax]

It looks like a Childs game and NOBODY who spends $400 bucks on a system wants "Sackman". The PS3 is in HUGE trouble and if you think it is not you are fooling yourself.

[Bangladesh]

LBP is casual sh*t on a $400-500 console, that's why it flopped. I hope to God, no one feels like a "hardcore" gamer for buying LBP. Actually, that would be f*cking hilarious, so if you did please tell everyone about how hardcore you are while playing LBP. lol

@ duka
lol you are a brainwashed fool.

[littleBIGfail]

lOLzzzz!211one!!!!11

[SONYSLAVE]

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[razorbladelight]

that would be a Sony Slave

[eliasg]

Sir_Ken_Kutaragi you are the biggest fanboy ever. This is living this is folding...

[Tmac]

Most amazing game this generation, and people still hate on it lol.

[Danja]

anyone hating on he game are ppl who dont own a PS3 so they can play the game..simple as that...

The game is about 1 million sold...or a lil more..dont see how thats a flop...

[Porno Decepticon]

The Best Exclusive out of 3 platforms and like Tmac said, some peeps still hate on it.

[sackboy says hi]

U over HYPED me.... MOuhahahahahah XD

[socomnick]

thats an understatement lol.

[RememberThe357]

Halo 3 anyone?

[wicked]

@7.2 how can you say Halo 3, how many has it sold? and is still selling, No. 2 online game after over a year on the market. I know when my Son has his friends round it's Halo they ask to play. They must have gotten something right.

[comm13]

Yea... they got the name right.

[Porno Decepticon]

Wow so you round up a whole bunch of morons to Buy Halo 3 congrats, I'm sure they got a good golf clap going.

*KIDS wicked... KIDS*.

[Man_of_the_year]

Halo 3 was in no shape or form a Flop 94% on Metacritic and has sold over 8.1 million copies as of January 3rd 2008 - Sony fanboys just like to throw the name around when they are backed into a corner and don't know what to say.

[xg-ei8ht]

Not sure what your sorry for, MM has done well from this.

And the game is doing well. Coming up against bigger well known games.

You have to remember that this game was not advertised as it should have been, a few articles in newspapers isn't the right move.

You have to show this kind of thing in action.

I have the game, and it's excellent. I'm stuck on the bunker level atm. But i'll get off that wheel sometime soon:)

I'm also making a level, and once done should be pretty sweet, the editor is easy/ Nothign like the farcry,quake3 games i made maps 4.

[Counter_ACT]

All these articles and writers please gtfo.

[IzKyD1331]

no, how else will they get hits? by posting credible articles with facts? your crazy....

[jack who]

LittleBig-Flop

[Counter_ACT]

fail

[IzKyD1331]

jack, just go back to trying new sex positions with pp

[jack who]

you jealous

[OSIRUSSS]

LBP a FLOP? Could someone explain?

[tatotiburon]

ok it's easy....tomb raider it's outselling LBP, see?

[Man_of_the_year]

I would like to see a link for that claim. I have LBP and it's ok. It's not all that great but it is entertaining and has it's moments. But you can't have a game like that on a console that is over $400 and an install base of only 17 - 18 million units sold in users households. This game needed a larger PS3 install base for it to generate the sales that most Sony Fanboys on this site expected. So far only the Hardcore gamers have bought the PS3, it still hasn't hit mass market and with the current price it won't anytime soon.

MORE PS3 units in peoples homes = greater % of potential customers = larger software sales

And until the PS3 gets a price cut than you can pretty much scratch out the whole equation.

[Marty8370]

Bunch of retards, sales are only a little under a million under a month. Hows it a flop, Banjo did alot worse on 360.

[Counter_ACT]

Exactly, where are the OMG BANJO FAILED articles? Pathetic fanboys.

[InMyOpinion]

Banjo wasn't hailed as the mother of all games.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

Even tho i dont think LBP floped like i think comparing it to banjo is not doing any justice.Lbp was far over hyped than banjo and it got almost perfect reviews while banjo got alot of bad reviews.LBP was being called the new mario but no one ever called banjo the new mario.

Dont think im a 360 fan boy (i have both consoles) but im just poiting out to u that u are contradictig your self.

And i did not buy LBP because its not my type of game.I am not the type of gamer that finds creating levels and posting them online is fun.

[RememberThe357]

How many advertisements for LBP had you seen before the launch? The only people over hyping this game where the fans.

Sony didn't shove this game in peoples faces the way gears 2 was or even fable 2 and Resistance 2.

In the main stream media I didn't see much hype. There was interest but I would not call that over hyped.

This game is for a younger audience, maybe a $250-$300 console, not a $400-$500 older audience.

See this game getting bundled with a cheaper console in the future.

[alakazzam]

exactly "RememberThe357", so many of my mates havent even heard of the game let alone know what it is. too many people spend way too much time on N4G. in the real world i havent seen a single advert for lbp. besides the game if amazing, hows that a flop?

[DaTruth]

No, Banjo was hailed as the Little Big Killer. LBP was not in seven eleven with it's own flavoured Mountain Dew, Sony doesn't pull that garbage and if you notice they never put a commercial on the air before launch. If they were concerned about first day sales, why would they hold off on the advertising until launch. That's Microshaft's game.

[Johnny Rotten]

One of the best games I ever played! Too bad I'm stuck in a rut on how to get multiple emitters to work the way I want :(

[name]

Yeah it had nothing to do with sony releasing R2, valkyria chronicles, and motorstorm 2 within a week from eachother, and fallout 3, call of duty world at war(which 99.9% of my friends list are playing) and mirrors edge releasing in that same time frame. Gaming media's sad.

[Ryo-Hazuki]

LBP will hit a million at least, its not a flop. However, I do believe Betas hurt games.

[RememberThe357]

That beta's blowing peoples collective minds. You can't blame slow sales on beta's the audience isn't big enough.

We can't keep think that if we think one way everyone else think that same way.

There were a lot of people who loved the beta. If the game sold well would we be saying it was because of the beta?

Did COD:WaW sell well because of the beta that many people said could have been much better?

It's not the beta guys, it's the audience.

[ELite_Ghost]

they should put a demo up so that ppl get to try it and get hooked to it!

[hay]

I've bought it cause beta have shown me how fun LBP is...

[Nitrowolf2]

The beta did not hurt the game, believe that. Its the fact that sony delayed the game, it killed some of the momentum everyone had and even changed there mind about it. To me sales dont necceassary mean flop, nor a success. Its all about the gameplay and the score it gets for me.

Plus the fact that many games hit afterward. I mean that might have changed people mind also.

[DrWan]

It only accounted for the 25k of people, which is not that significant. Majority of the people haven't try the game. I went to The City(Circuit City) to buy this game 1 week after released, it was still on the "Pre Order" rack. the Store managers do not even know the game is already here. THey had to go into the storage room and pull it out when I ask and then they replaced all the pre order boxes....

It is due to lack of ads being a new IP and all, and also, this game has no competition in the market, it will sell well 1 year into the life time.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

Dont u think with all the hype and good scores it got it should have sold alot more even tho it was delayed?

Funny thing is it should have been more....

[comm13]

lol, most people do not care about hype and scores. They look at tv ads, go into a store and buy a game.

[Hot_tea]

Just because some loser on a half 4ssed nothing website writes some garbage, all the haters come out the wood work.
LOL! At failures on this forum talking about LPB 'failing'.
Check these losers previous posts, they are obvious fanboys/girls. Never take an objective comment serious from a loser with a Gears avatar.

[Rice]

psh.. fanboys, you were so 2007.

[Mr_Potato_]

If 1 million already sold for a new IP is a flop, then nearly every game on 360 is a flop.

[air1]

LBP- sales floped like a fish out the water

[robotnik]

LBP is fvcking brilliant, haters be damned.

[Radiodread]

I like how these xbox morons never come back to defend their comments, because they always know they're wrong. Pu$$ies

[Bangladesh]

It's usually because trying to hold a meaningful conversation with a mindless zombie is useless.

[Sez]

hey man. i know what you mean. i still waiting for proof that LBP sold 1 mil. but they still can't find any. one guy had the nerve to use vgchart as his proof. i'm still laughing.

[ultimolu]

Why do you care if you sold your PS3?

Does a lot of sales determine how great a game is supposed to be?

Get over yourself.

[Sez]

ha ha ha. there you go putting your foot in your mouth. i haven't sold my ps3. because as i said a number of times. NO-ONE WANTS IT. so i'm stuck with it.

no sales don't determine how good a game is. sale determine how much people recieves your product,will there be a sequel,will they stay exclusive,ect. just look at heavenly sword. you think if it would have sold better than it did. ninja theory would have made a HS2. and that the same with any game.

[ultimolu]

Know why no one wants it? Because they already own one. Perhaps you should be grateful for the system that it is. But you're an ungrateful brat.

There's already talks of Little Big Planet 2. How do you know Little Big Planet won't go over a million or so? You expected a million in one day? It was a brand new IP. And no, don't drag Gears into this because that was a shooter. LBP is a concept never tried before.

Let's have an intelligent conversation without *you* claiming I have a foot in my mouth...no, scratch that.

You pissed me off.

[Sez]

be grateful for what. a console that sit there and collect dust, grateful for a console where 85% to 90% looks and plays better on the competitions console. and the reason no-one wants to buy it from me (which is a better deal MGS4,R2,UNCHARTED,RFoM,warhark on the HDD all for $300) is because no-one is interested in it other than a movie-player. yeah but i should be grateful. again for what????

"How do you know Little Big Planet won't go over a million or so"-how do you know it will go over. i mean you guys have been saying since this game was mentioned. that this game would sell ps3, and judgement day is upon us "xbot". now it's

"You expected a million in one day" for a new "IP" that hasn't gotten much press. i expect low sells. but for a game that has been advertised by fanboys/gaming sites for over a year now, who sony them selve felt that this game would push the casuals over to the ps3. it hasn't. so your new "IP" excuse went out the window.and no i wouldn't bring gears 2 into this arguement. because it has nothing to do with it.or the fact that it's a shooter.

this has to do with sony thinking that this game would be that game to get people to buy a ps3 for. LBP may sell 1million copies or it may not. but in the end. like i said before. it will sell like viva pinata.

[ultimolu]

"be grateful for what. a console that sit there and collect dust, grateful for a console where 85% to 90% looks and plays better on the competitions console."

Um...I'm pretty sure Dead Space looks great on my PS3. FarCry 2 looks good as well. I'm also getting Prince of Persia and hopefully Mirror's Edge. 85-90%? Where do you even get that percentage from? :D

I love how your PS3 is collecting dust. There's so many things you can do with a PS3 like...play games...browse the internet, and watch movies.

That's really sad because last year, I wanted to burn my PS3. This year, I enjoyed my PS3 thoroughly.

"and the reason no-one wants to buy it from me (which is a better deal MGS4,R2,UNCHARTED,RFoM,warhark on the HDD all for $300) is because no-one is interested in it other than a movie-player. yeah but i should be grateful. again for what????"

Yeah, and that's a really sad mindset there. The PS3 is a media center. It's a gaming console AND a movie player. It's sad you even have people who think like that. My uncle actually wants the 160gb PS3 for games and the movie player as well but he's waiting for a price drop.

"how do you know it will go over."

Because Uncharted sold over 2 million copies and it took time for it to reach that mark.

"i mean you guys have been saying since this game was mentioned. that this game would sell ps3, and judgement day is upon us "xbot". now it's..."

Guys like *who*? The only person running around with that comment was that nutcase Nasim. PS3 fans had every right to be excited about the game. It's amazing and it's likable. Every time I'm online, people are playing this game.

"i expect low sells. but for a game that has been advertised by fanboys/gaming sites for over a year now, who sony them selve felt that this game would push the casuals over to the ps3. it hasn't. so your new "IP" excuse went out the window.and no i wouldn't bring gears 2 into this arguement. because it has nothing to do with it.or the fact that it's a shooter."

But did Sony say it would happen in one day? Yes, they did say that but they didn't say it would happen in one day. Their sales take time to produce results.

"this has to do with sony thinking that this game would be that game to get people to buy a ps3 for. LBP may sell 1million copies or it may not. but in the end. like i said before. it will sell like viva pinata."

Uh-huh.

[Sez]

ok. out of those four game you just mentioned. and a small few of other. look better. but a majority of the games look and play better on the 360.that why you can only name those 4. i'll give you 8 games.but for your 4 games you named. i can throw out 8 games to back up my claim.(F.E.A.R,lost planet,half-life,madden,splint er cell,GRAW,rainbow 6 1 and 2,assasins creed,army of two,ect)

"I love how your PS3 is collecting dust. There's so many things you can do with a PS3 like...play games...browse the internet, and watch movies.

sorry but only you and these sonyfanboys get excited over these things. that have been done on P.C. for ages. i can browse the internet, play all my pc games, and i can watch movies. oh but because it's in the ps3. i should be happy. like i wasn't doing it before. THANKS SONY

"how do you know it will go over."
Because Uncharted sold over 2 million copies and it took time for it to reach that mark.

i know you really not trying to use uncharted a game that has been bundle with the system just to improve sale on the game. like it can't stand on it's own two feet. ps3/bundled with motorstorm1,LBP,ridge racer,uncharted,5 BR movies, R&C TOD, like what games has sony released that wasn't bundled. if thats how you have hide sales to cover up the fact that these games aren't selling is a problem.

"i expect low sells. but for a game that has been advertised by fanboys/gaming sites for over a year now, who sony them selve felt that this game would push the casuals over to the ps3. it hasn't. so your new "IP" excuse went out the window.and no i wouldn't bring gears 2 into this arguement. because it has nothing to do with it.or the fact that it's a shooter."

But did Sony say it would happen in one day? Yes, they did say that but they didn't say it would happen in one day. Their sales take time to produce results.

wow. did you take the time out to read what you post before you send it. because you just contradicted yourself. you still have time to go back a edit you comment.

"i mean you guys have been saying since this game was mentioned. that this game would sell ps3, and judgement day is upon us "xbot". now it's..." Guys like *who?

ok. you want to play these games. OK. how about guys like. nassim and his many accounts,eagle,darksniper,bill , shane,Sir_Ken_Kutaragi,ect. what you need more names. i could go on all day if you need me too. but i will end it here.

[SONYSLAVE]

LOL no wonder ultimolu is ignored by so many people.

A big LOL at radiodread he went to an XBOT to a droid lmao!!!!

[ultimolu]

SONY SLAVE: Blah, blah, blah

vega75: Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.

[Sez]

yeah talikng to me is like talking to brick wall. i guess i would have said the same thing if i got owned as many times as you have. i think it's wise for you to stop. so you don't make yourself look sillier then you are ready do.

[DiabloRising]

*yawn*

So many doom and gloom articles... shouldn't fanboys be playing with their Jaspers now?

[Blademask]

That should have ended the article right there, but no? He some how tries to blame a beta?

I dont even know why this person writes? So that 360 owners will forget that there were only 3 good 360 games released this year, and the entire year has been full of nothing but flops for the major releases?

Gears2 and Fable2 were the ONLY thing that got anyone on n4g talking again. Up until that, the site was called 'wah wah all sony fanboys' because every single game floped starting in january. The 360 had games that scored lower than HAZE for christs sake.

Back off of LBP, it comes to this. IF you want to play the Highest Rated exclusive game on a Next-Gen console, play LBP. If you want to look at one day of a NPD report, and ignore the fact that LBP will be on sell after that one day, ignore that it debuted #1 in Chart Track then fell to number 2 after GEARS OF WAR 2, and sold copies in Japan. Well, Enjoy playing lower rated games and looking at that one NPD article? Have at it.

[MazzingerZ]

LBP is selling well, what I think hurts SONY is not having a worldwide launch...also that delay hurted the game, the online retailer where I had pre-ordered the game here in EU sent me an email saying that the game was delayed 'due to bugs discovered in the code' WTF?

The game is easily close to the 1M mark, during this xmas I estimate around 1-1,5 M PS3 being sold, LBP, MGS4, R2, etc all of them will get a boost in sales

But hey, honestly as a PS3 owner, how does this hurt any of us? it has been a great year IMO

Best games right now are only on PS3, that "X360 has the best games" is getting old, a year ago it was accurrate (I play all of them and since then only Gears 2 can be count as a AAA game) today those games are outdated, Microsoft tried to refresh the catalogue but didn't succeed, Too human, Ninja Gaiden, the Square Enix low budget RPGs are already forgotten

Here comes a list of only on PS3 (forget about finding them on PC), fresh games, new, from this year...we live in the present not in the past and look forward to the future... GOTY is between LBP and MGS4 and it will get better next year.

GT5P
MGS4
Resistance 2
LittleBigPlanet
Motorstorm PR
Singstar
Buzz Quiz Show
SOCOM: Confrontation
Valkyria Chronicles
HotShots Golf
Wipeout HD

Soon: Killzone 2, inFAMOUS, Heavy Rain

+ all the multiplatform games

= VARIATION, that's what is great with the PS3 right now, that's why we don't need a X360 really, they can cut the price to USD 99 and still I would think twice before getting it, why? to play Fallout 3, GTA IV, RE, GH, Far Cry 2, etc you don't need 2 consoles

As soon as SONY cuts the price, X360 owners will be all over it, it's just a matter of money not that the console doesn't have kick ass games...soon Killzone 2 will join the growing catalogue of REAL exclusives

Media talks about exclusives being dead and that's correct, 3rd party exclusives maybe but first party games will always be exclusives, SONY has dev studios worldwide and it's starting to show, Microsoft was counting to sell lot more consoles than the PS3 so they could buy 3rd party exclusives but they didn't count with the PS3 keeping up this well so 3rd party developers have already said 'multiplatform is the way to go" Many see this as a victory for Microsoft but it's the opposite...

that's why Microsoft's goal is to sell more consoles, to try to get 3rd party exclusives with the help of their base installment but it's too late, they know they can't compete with 1st party games, by the time they release 2 SONY releases 4 or more.

[Neoraf]

This game was supposed to make PS3 the system of choice for the holidays.
LBP was the game to kill the Xbox360... listening to fanboys...

LBP IS a Flop.
Face reality.

[DiabloRising]

Your first mistake was listening to fanboys.

Your second mistake was listening to fanboys.

[HighDefinition]

:P

[DaTruth]

That was a double PWN!!!

[ultimolu]

Yeah, and we should allll listen to you.

The game is a FLOP.

I'm sorry but I'm having loads of fun with this game and I'm sure others are having fun as well.

Some 360 fans hate on things they can't have on their system. If this was on your system, you would have praised it as the second coming, wouldn't you...

And Onslaught pwned, as always.

[RealtorMDandDC]

Sony did not HYPE LBP at all...shi* I have yet to see a decent TV AD for LBP..

I here alot of people talk about over hype but that is far form the case...H3 was fuc8king over hyped to death and I hated every last bit of it..

LBP could be consider a flop I own a 360 N a PS3......and so far I have more Quality games on my PS3 versus my 360.........

[Jill Valentine]

It's not a flop kids. It will sell over 1 million and that is a flop? Sales don't mean nothing all the time because i know a lot of games that are overrated and suck and sell a lot. How about wait and see how it fairs through the holidays.

[DiabloRising]

No Jill... personal opinion doesn't matter. ONLY SALES MATTER! ONLY YTD SALES! SKUS! ATTACH RATIOS! PROFIT MARGINS! That's ALL that matters in gaming today, where have you been? Fun? FUN? HAH! Fun doesn't make you a gamer, being an armchair analyst does!

Remember, Halo 3 IS THE BEST GAME EVAR! Fact!

Also, Lord of the Rings is now proven better then Star Wars!

And Titanic? If you don't like it, you're a fool, because its a fact that it is now the GREATEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME! GO TICKET SALES! WOO!

/sarcasm.

;-)

[zodiac909]

WHO THE HELL EVER SAID IT FLOPPED!?

[jmcorp]

for those that don't understand why LittleBigFlop is a flop, the reason is quite simple...

a few months (yes even that far back) before the release of the game, N4G was riddled or should i say infested with comments that went something like this...

"LBP >>> ALL 360 exclusives" "LBP GOTY 2008" "LBP will sell millions of PS3's" "LBP will get casual gamers rushing to buy the PS3" "LBP >> GeOW2, Fable 2 and Halo 3" "LBP...nuff said" "LBP System seller" "LBP top charts everywhere" "Sack boy and Sack girl >>> Mario"

LOL...excuse me while I have a quick laughing session...LMAO!!!

not exactly as planned, eh? what with LBP not even making a dent on the PS3's current standings. how sad...what does this teach you?? don't hype a game to Heavens gates...

what was it again, 40k on its japan first day launch? and the game has barely done a million since then... there's a certain exclusive called GeOW2 which did close to 2 million on day 1...

LittleBigPlanet more like LittleBigFlop...

let me digress a bit and say, whoever thought LBP would push PS3 sales, and sell millions itself needs to get a brain cell transplant, seriously, who picks up a PS3 to play LBP? a hardcore gaming console, in a shiny black finish, and an elegant yet viciously impeccable interface and powerful specs just to play this kiddy game?

it was DOOMED from day one, simply because it was on the PS3, sorry but the irony is too much for me to take...

had it been released on the Wii, sales would certainly have surpassed 5 million units by now...and that largely a FACT!

"LBP system seller", couldn't even beat FIFA 09 on the charts, FIFA 09 which was released almost a month ago...and even now Tomb Raider: Underworld is selling better...talk about a flop.

[DiabloRising]

The irony is...

N4G is not the world, thank god.
What is said by fanboys on N4G doesn't affect the market in the slightest.
No on cares what N4G has to say.
Your "victory" is on a website where fanboys have pissing matches. Go you, you winner!

Excuse me while I get a laugh in now.

[jerethdagryphon]

dont ever compare yealy football games to anything

maden ifa pro evo

they will always sell stupid numbers
since this site likes random numbers heres a couple

superbowl is watched by 2billion+ people world wide
football (soccer) is watched by 3 billion

lbp sold over 500k units and scored over 90%
its score ranked it in aa-aaa status, its sales are a bittle below par.
flops need codifing
if anygame not selling 2 million copys is a flop then fable2 is a flop

ok see my point yes lbp was hyped by this site and this site only

that was a mistake its still a good game
its still a critical success, mm revieved admiration for it and funding or more games that makes it a sucess
its nominated for several goty awards flops dont get nominated
ok

quit saying everything is a flop

a true flop is xbox 360 pimp my ride low reviews very low sales

[Silogon]

It has sold over 1 million units in under a month and that is now a flop, huh? How about being honest with yourselves...

500,000 units sold is what ever developer shoos for and 1 million is what they dream for. Most games never hit 300,000, let alone 500,000 in their life times... LBP hit 1 million in under 1 month.

[lelo]

Let's face it... this game was way overhyped and overrated... it does not deserve the high scores it got from reviews.

I said it and i will say it again... the game is simply not that good. It's cute and funny in the beginning, after a while you get tired of it.

I played it for a few hours in a friends PS3 ... and it's OK... not great.

I don't like the Wii, but i have to admit they have one of the best platformers there is ... Super Mario Galaxy. Now that is a great platform game.

[Hot_tea]

YOU ARE A LIAR.
Most 360 fan girls pull the 'friends ps3' lie to prove they know of what they speak.
Reality is lady, you have never played it so shut up.

[lelo]

@ Hot_tea

Were you offended … about LBP … just because I did not think it was great?

“YOU ARE A LIAR. Most 360 fan girls pull the 'friends ps3' lie to prove they know of what they speak. Reality is lady, you have never played it so shut up “

Is that suppose to offend me? … and PS3 fanboys always claim they are more mature. I can see that … especially on N4G. GROW UP LITTLE BOY

Yes, I do have friends (seems you don’t have any)… yes I do have friends that have PS3’s … yes I do have friends that have LBP… yes I have played the game… and… I don’t think it is that great … and YES it is overhyped and overrated.

[Sircoynie]

HA!there are some awful kiddy fanboy responses on here.

I'm 25, own all 3 consoles (and both handhelds) and can honestly say that if i had to rate the best three games of this gen it would go like this,

1/Super Mario Galaxy
2/Little Big Planet
3/Geometry Wars 2

I find it funny how the older i get the less shooting that i want to do(except geometry wars heheh). If you like me have played games for the past 20 years then you would have NO problem in playing LBP, i feel that some people (mainly teenagers) just skip past anything that isn't violent and forget about it.

Little Big Planet is an absolute masterpiece and easily up there with some of the best games of all time (still nothing knocks Zelda: OT off though)its just a real shame that the only people that can afford the system want games where they just shoot (COD4 is a prime example).....

[Horny Melon]

The only excellent shooters I've played in a very long time is Bioshock and Half Life, the rest are play and forget. I started playing FPS when you could buy "wolfenstein 3d" packs for $5 over the internet. They got boring after tribes. FPS get boring after a while once you've been playing them for a couple decades...everything in them becomes cliche.....exploding barrels, crate filled levels, overly masculine soldier with grunt voice (the thing that killed R2 for me), aliens, space marines.....where are the thief spiritual successors? How about a homeworld rebirth...nope just lame ass FPS after FPS.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

i think betas of any games ruins them. It spoils the hype for them. If I would've played the LBP beta, I know I would personally be like "eh, I'll get the game... but eh". I bought the game without playing the beta and I was still hyped about it. I still play it regularly with my g/f as there is still plenty to still unlock/do in the game. I recently picked up a $20 PSN card... to get the costume packs (animals, resistance, motorstorm, locoroco, etc.). The game is super enjoyable and creative. If this game flopped, Im glad I've got to enjoy this diamond in the rough along with Mirrors Edge. People would rather play rehashed generic crap than be true gamers and give innovation a chance. Im just glad Im the true gamer that is on innovations side... cause Im sick of all the been there done that generic typical crap that overfloods gamming this gen, it's really sad!

[Martini]

Not necessarily - it depends on the game. Beta for COD 4 on the 360 fueled the hype big time and propelled the game into being the biggest game of '07 for example. But some demos and betas can definitely hurt a game (unfinished demo of Frontlines) or make a game (Bioshock on 360).

[Theoneneo81]

You guys also got to put in the Economy into the picture rember September and October were really the toughest months since the economy tanked not everyone is gonna go spend 60 bucks at a time like that and I'm sure a lot of people have been starting to save as much money as they can for the holidays around that time.

[badkolo]

no one expected banjo to do well so stop with that, i hated banjo when i saw you need to build your rides, thats boring, so is lbp, brilliant but boring game.

the difference is no one hyped banjo, everyone hyped lbp, it the best scores yet it flopped, tomb raider is selling more on the ps3 for gods sake, the game may be great and recieved great scores but it was overhyped and undersold.

after xmas comes killzone2 then we will see if people buy games or movies on the ps3.

The same will hold true in feb, if killzone gets high scores yet doesnt sell gears1 or gears 2 numbers then its a flop as well, with all the hype killzone2 is getting, with its great graphics and with all sony fans calling it the killer of all games, then it better sell 2 million in a week or its a flop too.

[dkgshiz]

Do any of you do anything besides going on n4g? I doubt any of you do.

[Theoneneo81]

and yet here you are

[Figboy]

LBP, because i had been playing other games (like Fallout 3, Motorstorm: PR, Resistance 2, Killzone 2 beta, etc), but i popped it in today, before i left for work, and played it for a good hour or so.

i forgot how utterly charming the game is, and how it's potential really shines when creative people are doing creative things (i played a user created level today that was just excellent).

personally, i think LBP is a Game of the Year contender, if not a possibly winner (too many games i've had AMAZING fun with this year to really narrow it down to just one being the best).

do i think LBP is a sales flop? why, because it didn't sell 8 million units on day one? why do i care in the first place?

all i know is Media Molecule has created a fantastic game, and i love it. i'm having fun with it, as are my family and friends, and many of the gamers on my friends list.

i also know that LBP released during a brutal avalanche of quality games.

i liken it to Beyond Good & Evil (which i also played for a little bit today as well). brilliant game, with an excellent story, characters, and world. critically praised, receiving scores in the 9's across many a publication. sold like ASS. i mean, it really bombed. why? because too many good games came out during it's release. i think the release of Prince of Persia, Splinter Cell, some sports games, and a few others i can't think of (like a GTA or Silent Hill, SOMETHING), overshadowed BG&E.

LBP, and many other worthwhile games (like Valkyria Chronicles), are in the same boat.

ultimately, i think LBP will have sold over 1 million units. much like the Ratchet and Clank and Sly Cooper franchises, they don't come out of the gate with 1 million sold, but over time it gets there (Ratchet and Clank Future: TOD didn't sell like gangbusters on day one, but has since sold over 1 million units in the year since it's release).

i don't understand some of you young gamers that are so quick to point to sales numbers as a sign of quality.

yeah, enjoy your Kane and Lynch, 50 Cent: Bulletproof, and Ben 10. all of which sold over 1 million units.

i'll stick to GOOD games like LBP, Valkyria Chronicles, and Dead Space.

[DiabloRising]

Thank you Fig. You give me hope that there are intelligent people here worth discussing things with.

This preoccupation with sales = quality just saddens me. For 4 generations I played games without so much as a mention of sales numbers. Mario Bros, Super Mario World, Warhawk, Goldeneye, God of War... I just played games and talked about playing games. And now all people care about is sales.

What the sh1t happened man?

[Figboy]

i've been gaming since 1985 and i've never seen such a preoccupation with sales numbers.

me and my friends would argue over who was cooler, Sonic or Mario, but sales numbers and processing power never stepped into the equation. it was all about the GAME.

nowadays, however, i think most of these kids don't even remember they're playing video games, they get so caught up in the business side of the industry.

while i find some of the internal workings of companies like MS and Sony interesting, it has very little, if ANY affect on my enjoyment of the games they produce on their consoles.

even though back then, there was the whole Sega vs Nintendo thing going on, ALL of us had both consoles, or at least knew somebody who had the one we DIDN'T and even though i loved Sonic more than Mario, i still couldn't wait to visit my cousin and pop in Super Mario World on his SNES. or play Virtua Cop on the Saturn, while loving Resident Evil on the PS1.

we were fanboys, but we appreciated what the other system had.

nowadays, it doesn't matter HOW good the competitions games are, it seems like the fanboys just hate it out of spite.

with gaming, it's this new breed of fanboy, that comes armed with sales data, shipment numbers and charts, outdated links to quotes from developers who have gotten so out of touch with the current gaming market that their ideas should be locked up in a museum, and an unrivaled HATRED for the "enemy" console, no matter how quality some of it's offerings may be.

we have fools (yes, fools), hating on games like Gears of War 2, or Resistance 2, or Uncharted, or Fable 2, or Little Big Planet, just because it's not on their preferred system.

this is DANGEROUS to our industry as a whole. we WANT more games like the ones i mentioned. they are exactly what this industry needs, and yet gamers, and the gaming media alike, just LOVE to crucify them with nit-picking reviews and an overall tone of derision when covering them (just look at ANY kotaku post about the Playstation 3, for an example of a group of people that just CAN'T be objective in their reporting).

this new fanboy era is fueled by FUD and envy. and it has to stop. it's NOT just fun and games anymore, and some of these folks take it way too seriously.

genuinely good games like Heavenly Sword were MURDERED last year by the media and critics alike. now there will be no followup, which would more than likely improve upon the flaws of the original. but hey, i bet there's going to be a sequel to Kane and Lynch, just like there was a sequel to 50 Cent, because those games made the developer money.

funny thing is, Heavenly Sword has reached 1 million units sold, which is a SUCCESS, by the way, but it's too late. the brand has been damaged, and i think Sony has abandoned it (but hopefully NOT). yeah, thanks fanboys and the fanboy media. assholes...

this new "Fanboy Era" is going to be more damaging to the gaming industry than helpful, especially as the gaming culture continues to grow and expand to beyond just hardcore gamers. i mean, why the hell would other media and non-gamers take us seriously when they look at the gaming community and see a bunch of ignorant, petty, immature fanboys waving about sales numbers and tech specs like electronic penises?

hell, i'd go the other way too.

[DiabloRising]

I agree with you, on absolutely everything you said. Frankly, I'm disgusted, by this site and by what "gamers" have become.

I just can't understand why it has to be one or the other. Why can't people realize you can like more than one thing, be it console, franchise, whatever?

I'll say it plain and simple. 90% of "gamers" out there today appear to be fools. Pure, simple, unadulterated fools. They place sales above their own fun factor. They shoot down games they have never played.The term flop is tossed about like it was nothing. SKUS, YTD, Sales ratios, attach rates, FPS, texture resolution... I hear about THAT more than I hear "Hey, that game was damn fun!" They play corporate cheerleaders for companies that just want their money. They accept anything that is given to them, such as high PS3 pricing and the freaking horrid RROD situation. They just bend over and take more and more, THEN defend the company when someone says something even SLIGHTLY criticizing. The appreciate NOTHING and want EVERYTHING.

Everything has to be a bash fest, nothing can be good hearted joking, or conversation, or critical analysis. The "media" is a joke, and taught gamers to hype the next big thing. Then when it hits, it gets a 3 paragraph review then its on to hyping the next big thing. I've heard more about the goddamn NXE this fall than I have about Gears 2 or Fable 2. What does that say about gaming "journalism" and "gamers" today?

I'd love to be able to actually talk about the pros and cons of Gears 2, or Resistance 2... thats how the industry grows. By having CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. But gamers and "journalists" have become so damn jaded, it amazes me. Especially after time after time, journalists are PROVEN BIASED, but people cling to idiocy like Metacritic instead of their own opinions. We should be looking at ways to improve our hobby, our industry as a whole. But no, it has to be "lol ps3 sux" or "my game sold more urs sux." When gaming collapses again under its own bullsh1t, I for one won't be surprised. Thanks "gamers," you have no idea what kind of crap you sow.

What happened Fig? Seriously, what happened?

LOL @ Disagree Fairy - Too damn pathetic and stupid to make a solid counter argument. Run away little fanboys, run away. Let the big boys do the talking here.

[ultimolu]

Bubbles for both of you guys.

360 fans are only obsessed withe the sales because they wanted this game to fail.

[Horny Melon]

whos cooler? Pfffttt not even a contest, Sonic. Mario has been trying to rescue some self absorbed wench ("save me mario, save me!") Sonic is saving the environment. Well in the genesis games anyway.

What strikes me though is how out of touch most reviews are now with the reality of the games. Assassin's creed and GTA were touted as flawless perfection, but now that opinions can no longer hurt sales everyone is telling the truth and now that the hype has worn off and all the "fanboys" have come to their senses everyone agrees....

GTA friends system was annoying, as was the blur effect and vehicle controls, and the gameplay is largely unchanged from previous titles.

Assassins creed was beautiful but had horrendous game play, the same three missions again and again and again and again....

It's like people buy off of name recognition alone and don't want to here anything bad about the game (regardless of the truth) because it shows them the bad decision they made when they bought it.

[Figboy]

and i agree, Sonic is way cooler than Mario.

Sonic 2 and Super Mario World are two of my favorite games of all time however, so the debate continues. lol.

but yeah, we used to actually talk about the GAMES back then (Phantasy Star, or Final Fantasy?), and while most of us were certainly fanboys (i was a big Genesis fanboy, as it was the only console i owned next to my NES, but i wanted an SNES so BAD back then too, but we just couldn't afford it. eventually i got one, but for those years i didn't, i was a diehard Sega fan), we still wanted, and or had the "rival" console.

that sense of a "friendly rivalry," is all but gone now when it comes to the gamers.

even the big companies aren't behind some dirty, underhanded tricks. just look at recent comments made by MS in their interviews. the mudslinging at the competition just never ends. and don't get me wrong, MS isn't the ONLY company that plays dirty, but recently, despite most of the cards being in MS's hand for the past three years, they STILL feel the need to browbeat the competition. WHY? unless you're scared. we KNOW that your console is the cheapest, has the largest number of software titles available, and is selling very well in your home turf. we don't NEED to hear about it in every interview, or how you're beating Sony every other sentence. Nintendo and Sony, YOU can take that lesson to heart also.

but the fact that the fanboys have become corporate cheerleaders also is really disturbing.

there's no doubt that i'm a HUGE Playstation fan. Sony earned my trust back with the Playstation, and while i wouldn't say i'm "loyal" to the company, they are certainly my first choice when a new piece of gaming hardware is released.

i cheer on the Playstation 3, because it genuinely IS a good system. it has reliable hardware, features that i actually USE (being an adult gamer with responsibilities like fiances, bills, rent, etc, i look for the best value for my dollar), and game software that caters to my tastes (i prefer games like Heavenly Sword and Folklore to games like Halo 3 and Gears of War. nothing wrong with those games, but they just aren't my type. i DO like Resistance 2 and shooters like Uncharted and MGS4, but i LOVE action/adventure games and RPGS). that's the reason why i often recommend the PS3 to those looking to pick up a new system. it's value for dollar proposition is simply better than the competition.

i want MS and Sony to do well this generation, but the way they've been going about it this generation, in particular Microsoft (exclusive DLC, "bought off multiplats," etc) just leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. i believe the word "co-exist" isn't in Microsoft's vocabulary. if they aren't number one, then they don't even want to bother.

but the video game industry is too much of a profitable pie for them to abandon anytime soon. and i imagine that they just won't quit, and will do whatever it takes UNTIL they monopolize the industry like they do the PC OS market.

i think all three consoles this generation can offer a unique experience for the gamer, and that all three can co-exist in the industry. i DO think, eventually, the Playstation 3 will come out on top, as there are still over 120 million PS2 gamers that have yet to upgrade to the new consoles, and if a $200 360 hasn't convinced them too, then they must be waiting for that PS3 to drop in price. a $200 PS3 would certainly fly off of shelves. i'm expecting it to hit $300 by early next year, which will boost sales as well.

god dammit, even I'M talking about sales numbers now...

anyway, if MS fixes the Red Rings, and starts opening up THEIR OWN game development studios. they will have my respect as a gamer. i personally don't want exclusive DLC for games i've played and beaten 6 months to a year ago. i want NEW GAMES. closing down studios is counterproductive to creating NEW GAMES.

if Nintendo stops d*cking around it's loyal fanbase by constantly stringing them along with the promise of a new Mario, Zelda, or Metroid title, and starts producing more than just nostalgia-laden sequels to franchises i've been playing for 23+ years, then they'll have earned my respect back as a gamer. don't get me wrong, i'm GLAD that the Wii is appealing to a larger audience, broadening the gaming market, but not at the cost of the very gamers that put them in this position in the first place. it was us diehard Nintendo fans that championed the Wii, showing it off to non-gamer family and friends. more than just a few nostalgia throwbacks every few years is the LEAST we could ask for. oh, and treat your third parties as more than just filler to tide over your audience until you release YOUR guaranteed money-maker Mario, Zelda, or Metroid title.

Sony has my respect as a gamer for growing up WITH me over the past 13+ years. but things are not perfect. fix your marketing campaign. there's no excuse for games like Little Big Planet to sell the way they are (although 850,000 units is quite impressive. it DESERVES to be more). STOP showing off games when they are nowhere close to completion. i know it's hard to keep quiet, especially when the gaming media and community are constantly harping about you not showing off games. but keep it in your pants until you KNOW that it's only 6 months to a year before release. HOME and LBP were shown prematurely, though admittedly, you needed SOMETHING to show the jaded masses that you were still thinking about games.

being the in Home beta, i can definitely say that the delay was NEEDED, but it won't stop people from b*tching about it. when games like 8 Days and The Getaway 3 get put indefinitely on hold, people who were actually interested in it have a right to be pissed. you should have kept that in your pants too. at least until there was some actual GAME to show.

on the flip side, if a game is close to release: SHOW IT OFF!! White Knight Chronicles releases on December 25 in Japan. so far, it's ONLY been shown in trailer form, or guided demo form, but it's never been played by fans. yes, there is a show in mid December, where you'll finally let gamers get their hands on it, but that's something that should have been done at LEAST two months ago. it's hard to build up the appropriate buzz two weeks before launch. WKC should be on the lips of every Japanese PS3 owner, and non-owner.

also, DON'T release too many big games so close to each other, ESPECIALLY if it's already in a crowded season.

as good as they are, SOCOM, Wipeout HD, Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, and Motorstorm: PR DESTROYED one another with their release schedule. it was literally like they were a week apart from one another. taking into account that most folks are paid on a bi-weekly schedule, and that's just a recipe for disaster. i had to pass on a large number of games myself, because of the deluge of excellent game releases during the months of October and November.

we know you have a lot of ground to make up being a year late to the party, but don't just assume that the SOCOM, Resistance, Little Big Planet, and Motorstorm fanbases are SEPARATE.

personally, i like all FOUR franchises, and would have liked to have owned all FOUR. i had to pass on SOCOM and Motorstorm: PR, because i just couldn't afford them, because other games were on my list that i wanted more (like Fallout 3, Fable 2, Resistance 2, and LBP; which i DID purchase).

anyway, none of the consoles are perfect, but i certainly love the games and services i'm getting on my PS3 more than my 360. i don't own a Wii, and won't, until they inevitably release the "Wii HD."

i go to where the games that interest me are. i have a 360 for Fable 2 and Alan Wake (whenever that releases). i have a PS3 for all the classic franchises i love (God of War, Wipeout, Gran Turismo, etc), and for Sony's penchant for releasing a lot of NEW IPs (remember, GOW, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Jak and Daxter, Sly Cooper, Ratchet and Clank, etc, were all new IPs once too), and quality new IPs at that.

[psycho360]

@juuken/ultimolu

"360 fans are only obsessed withe the sales because they wanted this game to fail"

Oh and the ps3 lovers including yourself were not touting ps3 sales numbers over 360 for past 1 year? Hypocrite much?

[ultimolu]

"Oh and the ps3 lovers including yourself were not touting ps3 sales numbers over 360 for past 1 year? Hypocrite much?"

Yes, because a person can't change.
/sarcasm

How sad indeed. Bring up the past instead of focusing on what's here and present.

You were doing the exact same thing. :)

[123456789]

IT will trust ME. IT will

[Sez]

it's having a hard time selling 1 mil. let alone 1.5mil.

@ whom ever
unless you have proof that LBP sold 1 mil. stop claiming it.

[tonynibbles]

Mirrors Edge. That as a FLOP in sales.

The Socom Confrontation Beta = That was a Beta Flop. Unplayable.

The Little Big Planet Beta = That was a *beta*.

[C_Dub]

I'm very interested in this game. I didn't get into the beta, and because of that, my interest slowly dwindled until it became "I'll get it some day". I wanted into the beta so bad to see if I would like this game, but was shut down day after day. Now I'm holding out until I either get an excess of money or maybe a demo of the game. That is what I need. I think a lot of people who are on the fence about this game would also love to have a demo version available. THAT is what's preventing more sales imo.

[Skadoosh]

It's no doubt that LBP is a major failure. I don't know where everybody is getting that this game has sold a million copies. I guess it's just sony fanboys dreaming again. But this game is around 500k and pretty much off the top charts. That's still a pretty good mark for a new ip but not the millions it was supposed to sell. I thought this game was supposed to break Halo 3's record.

I personally think the game is crap.

But what is wrong with you sony fanboys? Resistance 2 is also having crappy sales. The new Call of Duty easily outsold it. Why don't you guys support your system? The 360 boys are definitely supporting their system. Fable 2 outsold LBP and R2 combined!!! WOW. Time to stop talking sony boys.

[snp]

I'm not sure why you're dividing the sales in half.. nowhere is '500k' logical - even sites which are usually 'shy' with Sony sales estimates (eg VgChartz) estimate >800k...

As to it being off the charts. The week it was 19 on all formats, it was mid 40's Amazon UK. Then a funny thing happened there. It climbed to the 30's. Then the 20's. Then the teens. Then high teens. Then low in top ten. And it's now at number two there - significantly ahead of all the other games being put up in it's place here as successes (which are, naturally, dropping daily). And a spot it's kept for a number of days now...

You'll find a similar thing happening at many online gaming stores (specifically European - it's the top seller (all gaming products) at DVD.co.uk etc.).

Patience being a virtue, sincere people might want to wait until it's had a chance to use it's legs to show what it'll actually end up doing - or at least wait until there's some genuine numbers available. But, of course, none of the motivations for analysing the performance of this game (to negative ends) are sincere...

These sort of articles are useless, by enlarge, except perhaps as an interesting case study in one particular thing - whether or not this site is just filled with Sony diehards (often used as justification for elevating antagonistic nonsense articles), or if it has numerous provocative morons of other persuasions. I think this article - and the other three before it - and it's myriad of childish respondents each jostling on top of one another to get in their inane - repetitive - shot sort of ends that debate.

PS: If you want to disagree, could you please respond with actual human words as to what you're disagreeing with. It not makes your response actually useful, but also far less cowardly. Cheers.

[snp]

Amazon UK just sold out. 4 copies left at dearer than RRP price point.

Yeah, this things tanking all over the place. No word of mouth whatsoever. I'm sorry, comments like that just baffle me. No evidence for them whatsoever, and all anecdotal evidence points to just the opposite...

[Sez]

first off. you are using vgchartz as your proof that LBP is close to selling 1mil. you just made your whole argument worthless. vgchartz has been claim by both side(sonfan/360fan) to be inaccurate when it comes to it's numbers. their has been many people on both side also wanting have vgchartz news or predictions banned from N4G. yet you turn around and try to use them. like it's ok now because they are the only one's making LBP look good as far as sales wise.

second. there no reason. and i mean "NO" reason why LBP didn't get better sales. now i know what you think. "SALES DON'T MATTER" well honestly they do matter. look at heavenly sword. it was an OK game. just too short for the asking price. now with the low sales. do you think these guys will want to make a sequel if people aren't going to buy it,or more so why keep it exclusive,what about money for the next projects,the hiring of more dev's,ect.

the point i'm trying to make is that in the end. LBP will sale about the same as viva pinata. theres no advertisements or word of mouth that could change this. yes LBP did get good reviews. but if no-one's buying it. what does that really say about the game.

@ ultimolu/jukken

i had to laugh at this "snp: 360 fans are usually cowards. When they can't argue your points, they hit disagrees and run off" LMFAO. like all sonyfan are sooooo brave that they tell you why they hit the disagree botton and give a strong arguement as to why they did what they did. plz i'm still waiting for anyone to prove me wrong. that LBP sold 1 mil. yet all i get is STFU, your mama,you don't know nothing, LBP is the greatest game ever created,and (my personal favorite one) you don't own a ps3 cause you can't afford it. yet in all that i still haven't gotten any proof to prove me wrong.

come on ultimolu/jukken. show us how sonyfan do it. show me that you could do more than just back pedal on your comments. that you can actually stand behind what you say with out contradicting yourself.

[ultimolu]

Damn vega, you're quite late to the party!

"i had to laugh at this "snp: 360 fans are usually cowards. When they can't argue your points, they hit disagrees and run off"

It's true. Can't prove anything wrong so they slam disagrees and run off.

"LMFAO. like all sonyfan are sooooo brave that they tell you why they hit the disagree botton and give a strong arguement as to why they did what they did."

Yes they do. I do it. chaosatom does it. And so do other people who support the PS3 and doesn't hate on it like you and some 360 fans do on a daily basis.

Oh, and Sonyfans is *plural*.

"plz i'm still waiting for anyone to prove me wrong."

I just did by responding to your comment.

"that LBP sold 1 mil. yet all i get is STFU, your mama,you don't know nothing, LBP is the greatest game ever created,and (my personal favorite one) you don't own a ps3 cause you can't afford it. yet in all that i still haven't gotten any proof to prove me wrong."

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying here.

"come on ultimolu/jukken. show us how sonyfan do it. show me that you could do more than just back pedal on your comments. that you can actually stand behind what you say with out contradicting yourself."

Can *you* stand behind what you say without contradicting yourself?

[Sez]

"Can *you* stand behind what you say without contradicting yourself?" to answer your question? I AWAYS DO.

"Damn vega, you're quite late to the party!" must not be to late. if you are still here. you must couldn't get a ride "Home" or something.

""plz i'm still waiting for anyone to prove me wrong." I just did by responding to your comment". you didn't prove me wrong. all you did was the same thing all the other sonyfans do. you danced around what i asked you to provide me. PROOF THAT LBP SOLD 1 MIL. do you understand that.

"Yes they do. I do it. chaosatom does it. And so do other people who support the PS3 and doesn't hate on it like you and some 360 fans do on a daily basis"- i can tell you many thing wrong with your statement. i will give credit to chaosatom. but you. you got to be kidding. you have back-pedal in a number of threads.

oh oh " How sad indeed. Bring up the past instead of focusing on what's here and present"

when it comes to you. you got to be kidding. do us all a favor and stop trying to act like you don't hate on the 360 on a daily basis,or have posted flop in a 360 thread. now you trying to act like it's just all 360fans.and sonyfans are all above that. yeah. maybe... just maybe... you need to head over to the openzone. and you will see what i mean... ok

[ApocalypseShadow]

the 360 fans have been brainwashed by microsoft's viral marketing campaign.

they love numbers
they love stats
they love percentages from sites like metacritic.
they jump the gun just like microsoft and their 360 strategy.

they believe "quick sales mean great games.."
and they believe "great games sell millions of copies."

consider the fact that these same individuals bought over 2 million copies of the "BURGER KING" game.that must have been a great game there.

the viral campaign will continue to push forward,bashing ps3 quality games in hopes it slows ps3 down.just like bluray is bashed with pitiful articles to try and drag down the next media format.

such a shame that they waste their time trying to stop what is inevitable.which is more sales of ps3 and quality games still being produced.

apocalypse................

[Hot_tea]

Bubbles for the truth sir.

[Figboy]

and it's a shame, because some genuinely good games have been absolutely DESTROYED by the gaming media, and the fanboys.

Folklore
Heavenly Sword
Warhawk (although it has a healthy community, it's one of the most underappreciated online games of last year)
Zack and Wiki (Nintendo fanboys don't play ANYTHING that wasn't crafted by the hands of Nintendo themselves, even if the game is quality. see; the aforementioned Zack and Wiki, and practically EVERY other 3rd party Wii and Gamecube game released thus far)

so much hate for what has been created to entertain us.

gamers these days expect perfection, and that's simply impossible.

so many fanboys within and outside of the gaming media/industry, have altered and tainted the perception of video games this generation, that i don't even know if it can be repaired.

i mean, since WHEN has a 8/10 been considered a flop??

oh yeah, since this generation started, and the fanboys took over.

since when is selling 1 million consoles (regardless of how long it took to reach that number), been considered a sales flop??

oh yeah, since this generation started, and the fanboys took over.

the gaming industry, media, and community has been overrun by an obscene number of fanboys.

or maybe it's because the internet tends to funnel groups of like-minded individuals to one place, it SEEMS like it's overrun. but when you have "respected" media outlets jumping on the fanboy bandwagon, just to get hits on their sites...well, i think we're in trouble.

this console war is worse than any i've seen. period. not even the PS1/N64 console war got this ugly. it's at ridiculous levels of pettiness now. from ALL fanboys. not just fanboys of one particular console.

[ultimolu]

Well said.

[Blink_44]

I dont understand why people care about game sales. If you have it and you enjoy it, you shouldnt really care about how its sold.

[tonynibbles]

+1

[Blink_44]

Thank you kind sir.

bubbles for you!

[tonynibbles]

The six-figure TV advertising campaign in UK doesnt even *begin* until December.
FFS the games only just been released.

The game is overall, regarded to be an excellent game. All across the board its a 9/10 minimum.

Sales dont really count for fvck all.
Ico was an incredible game and that barely sold any at retail.

[Magic_The_Celt]

Awww here we go again

angry little fanturds trying to call it a flop

Now listen closely, LBP is the highest rated exlusive, ever.

Oh i know that must sting so bad, especaily since these days meta scores matter hugely to both publishers, the media and developers.

The sales are brilliant, yeah maybe not as big as say GTA or Gears 2, but guess what, LBP is a brand new unique IP which brings a whole new genre, and had barely any advertising not to mention an exlusive.

[earwax]

That NOBODY is buying.

[air1]

why the new ip and no advertising excuse?

could it be that you sony fanatics jumped the gun and called out doom for games like fable 2 and gears2? both games have a much better success then lbp.

maybe if you guy's didnt down play proven games and over hype lbp you wouldnt need an excuse, but since you sony fanatics wanted to compare it to gears2 and fable2, in comparison "sales wise" lbp drowned.

as a "new" ip it did great, but compared to proven ip's not so much.. and that must sting..

[Magic_The_Celt]

^^ why would it sting air? last time i checked i didnt work for sony, so sales dont effect me 1 bit

the quality of the game however, does, and as it stands LittleBigPlanet is a better game than Fable II or gears 2, although i still love Fable II (and gears 2 is still a pathetic excuse for a game)

[XDF]

I am sorry, but Sony was betting their Farm on this game and it drop quicker than Monica Lewinski on her Knees after it came out. The initial bum rush is over for he game and it is really a harcore kind-of game disguised as a Wii game. Kid and Casual folks don't know nor have the time or patience to create levels. This game is too ambitious for its own good and that is not going to have the word of mouth that some of you Sony worshippers dream about. This game didn't flop as it sold prtty descent but it is no MGS4 or Gears. Sony should just focus on the hardcore stuff like GOW3 and Killzone 2 and advertise THE $H!T out of it instead of this psudo casual BS like LBP. How in the world can it compete with the Wii and Microsoft. This year is over for Sony. At least they still have the Dark Knight on BD coming in Dec as the next must have.

[DiabloRising]

The great thing is, I'd rather have LBP to play, then have companies continue their streak of homogenizing, casualizing, and throwing out subpar sequels year after year. We need balance between new IPs and companies taking chances, and the companies who are all about profits and throwing out the next easy sequel (HEY THERE ACTIVISION! MILK GH ENOUGH YET?!)

I don't work for Sony, MS, or Nintendo. Neither do any of you I'd wager. This preoccupation with sales numbers is a pathetic, sad trend.

[xg-ei8ht]

tatotiburon

TombRaider - How many Games, on how many consoles.

It's an established game.

I rest my case.

[XDF]

Please,

Tomb Raider is freaking dead dude. RIP Lara Croft...Hope you can sell 200,000 copies combine.

[Bell Boy]

IMO the reality is the market is pretty much flooded by shooters nowadays(don't get me wrong I like to play them myself) but this game is a true masterpiece released in the usual sea of first and third person shooters. Honestly you would think true gamers from all sides would celebrate a title that looks beyond the usual fare we are served up, but alas no apparently 1st day, week and month sales are now the gauge of a what is quality...at least to half of the folks on here.

If you don't like it fine, but all I know from personal experience is my wife just completed it with me and she ain't played a video game in 20 years, her shooter loving nephews played 4 player with us and they are now desperate for it for Christmas...that to me = family entertainment. So this game will no doubt have a very long profitable lifespan

[No Way]

Flop, Flop.. Ah, who the hell cares?

I'll be getting it once I get my PS3.

[JeepGamer]

I'm curious about all of this nay saying going about the sales of LittleBigPlanet...

It's sold 830,000 copies. If you don't think that's successful then you're are one of two things: A complete retard or a fanboy. Was Fallout 3 for the PS3 a failure too? It only sold 500,000 copies. I guess Fallout 3 was a "near" failure on 360 as well since it sold only a little over one million.

Just because the game isn't selling like a well established and highly over hyped franchise like Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, or the latest EA sports title hardly means the game is a flop.

[Enigma_2099]

... when was the last time you ever read about a 360 game being considered a failure... because I KNOW there were some that didn't sell nearly as good.

[ionisdialos]

i own both systems

LBP sucks
and its only hyped by lame ppl
its so damn borring

[Hot_tea]

...

[ionisdialos]

postmypsn?

project76dodo

[psycho360]

hahahah hot tea got burned.

[NickIni]

Because your opinion is better, or counts more, than everyone else's? Personally, I love this game. It's so simple, yet successful and fun. It seems a lot of people feel the same about LBP.

[Enigma_2099]

For example, I thought Halo 3 was boring and overhyped... like the bubble shield it bragged about, so there.

[NickIni]

"LBP sucks
and its only hyped by lame ppl
its so damn borring"

I don't see anything there that says it's his opinion. He's saying it like it's fact, and then just being plain insulting.

[JHUX]

Yeah it's nominated for game of the year cause it's a piece of crap. I don't understand why it's always a war with you people. As a gamer, I can say from personal experience that LBP is one of the best games available right now. I don't follow sales, unless it's being spoon fed to me when a game is doing great, or doing just plain bad, but I don't understand the reasoning behind using sales or reviews for that matter, to judge a game.

OPEN YOUR EYES.. LBP is one of a kind right now, and it's one of the funnest games out right now (especially multiplayer).

[Asurastrike]

LittleBigPlanet has sold 850,000 copies so far.

http://vgchartz.com/games/g...

[DJ]

Is the flawed expectation that entertainment only sells well for the first few days and then drops off permanently.

[yojoe26]

all of you, yes XBox fans as well, need to play this game before poking fun or calling it a flop because I own it and have since launch day. You know what? This game is STILL blowing me away every single time I sit down to play it. Now I have to say a lot of games have the potential to remain fun for a long time, but how many games continue to make you say "Wow" after weeks of playing them. Play this game and not just the platforming components: try the create stuff and if you still don't find it fun that's cool, but at least you will know. As for all you guys who are as some would say "trolling" just go out and give this game a try like I just said. I'm not gonna rebuke you for trolling on this site just because you love anti-PS3 news because I'm not gonna lie I do the same thing (I absolutely HATE Microsoft, not xbox 360 mind you, but Microsoft. However I have played 360 and like it, I just can't justify buying the system of a company I detest. But seriously this game is ingenious and as others have said this game will have long legs in sales and content. You'll see. My two cents...

[sak500]

What a turnaround. Through out the year ps3 fanboys were hyping LBP,R2,SOcom and claiming end of 360... no comment

[Bombomb]

I bet you gears of war 2 beats all those 3 you mentioned and continue to sell...

oh yeah the end of MS it was

let me guess where are them 2009 year of the ps3 articles they will be here soon trust me

[yojoe26]

how're those two bubbles workin out for ya sak?

[Bell Boy]

Sure enough you have a psn, but oddly not a single trophy for LBP?

Heck man you get 1 for simply placing a sticker on another the player.
You obviously like shooters hell so do I but they aren't the be all and end all of gaming experiences. Each to their own I guess, but trash talking a game you probably at best spent 5 minutes with is a sad state of affairs IMO.

I hated GTA 4 which was a shame I loved vice city but I at least can see why others would find it enjoyable.

[Close_Second]

This guy has come up with a theory backed up with little to no facts and tried to pass it off as gospel.

How many copies of LBP have been sold worldwide? How many will be purchased next year after the PS3 price drop?

I wish 360 owners would simply f**k off and focus on their console and stop trying to take digs at those who don't think as they do.

[ReBurn]

I think you just summed up the point of the article. How many will be sold after the price drop? What does a price drop have to do with LBP? There are more than 16 million PS3's out there now, so it shouldn't need a price drop in order to sell well. Instead it's always "wait until" something or other.

[snp]

Don't see why any 'waiting' is needed... 1 million, give or take, in one month is not a failure. Or a flop, or any other synonym. This whole hypothesis.. it's puzzling. It really is. It might yet fall short, but it certainly hasn't at this point.

Fable 2 sells 1.5 million off of an audience about a third bigger than the PS3's - even excluding the fact of the PS3's audience not being purely gaming based (a portion of PS3 hardware sales are presumably to purely/mainly media centre/bluray buyers) - and this is somehow a raging success...

It's odd.

I mean, esp in context. Ratchet and Clank - here's a series which has spawned 7 or so iterations; has been regarded as that much of a success by Sony. Average 'lifetime' sales? 2 million per game. On 100 million PS2's.

Little Big Planet, with botched introduction, as a completely new IP, gets 1 million in it's first month off ~17 million systems (as said with a percentage possibly only secondarily dubbing as games machines) - what follows that, who knows...

and.. "FLOP!! FLOPPAGE FROM PLANET FLOPTOPIA! When are the sales coming Sony? When?!"

It's mind numbing.

[darkdoom3000]

Flop in sales, the game itself was a masterpeice.

i still love my sackboy!

[Narutone66]

LBP just started selling in my region and it's sold out already. Funny how the xobx fan boys said that it is a flop when all the proof they have are some fan boy website saying so. Why do you care anyway? It's not on your console. Might be that you're just jealous that it's not available for your console, remember the 3 years warranty for your console is nearing expiration. Time to buy a PS3 and not be left behind.

[gololo]

hey...can someone tell me what are the sales figures for LBP worldwide...

[trancefreak]

I got this game day 1 and my kids wont stop fighting over whos next. I need 2 copies of lbp in this household.

[HALE2K]

First and for most the PS3 is doing better in its first two years on the market then the Deadbox 360, Second LBP is more Inovative then anything seen this gen,

Fact 1) PS3 sold and is selling better for its time of being on the market compared to the 360

Fact 2) Blueray is being adopted at a much faster pace then dvd in a shatty economey

Fact 3) this is the year of the PS3 like it or not, the PS3 has more games with a rating of 8.5 and above for 2008

Fact 4) XBOX360 has more games that have floped then the PS3 (hey how about those JRPGS) Squareenix your loosing fans as we speak so wipe that shatty smirk from you faces and keep rolling in microshafts money

Fact 5) LightningPS3 your a little peice of pond scum who needs to change your avatar because you not only insult me but you shame sony and Final Fantasy, with you being a Microshaft ball washer talking crap about the PS3 all the time with an avatar and a name like that, do us a favor and go play gears2 or halo 3peat because there is gonna be one every year just to keep Microshaft alive or better yet go run into oncoming traffic because your opinion is a waste of energy.

HALE2K

[karlostomy]

Is this a flop I see before me?
The sales, for sorrow, will not show their head.
Never was a story of more rotting
Than this of PS3 and little big flopping.

What's in a Flop? That which we call LBP
By any other name would flop on ps3.
Out, damned Flop! out, I say!
What! can the devil speak true, today?

But ps3 love is blind and lovers cannot see
The ignorance follies that themselves commit;
For if they could, Kutaragi himself would blush
To see LBP thus transformed and crushed

Good night, good night! flopping is such sweet sorrow,
That I shall say good night till it be morrow.
False SDF must hide what the false heart doth fashion
To flop or not to flop, that is the question

[psycho360]

To all sony/ps3 fans who are blamming 360 fans for turning LBP sales into a flop.

First of all, you were the ones hyping this game as a million console seller. We had been hearing about this game since last year or whenever the heck it was annouced as the be all end all game. The game to kill for, the game the 360 fans would dream of having on 360. Only on teh cell blah blah blah blah.. Truth be told if you guys dont overhype every piece of exclusive thing out there for ps3 be it flops like socom, haze, lair or a mega hit like MGS4 then there will not be any retaliatory action from 360 camp.

I took the other side because of sony's false propaganda about ps3, teh blu ray and teh cell. I was almost going to buy it even though i loved 360, just so that i could play CGI quality games from day one. I'm just glad i made a wise decision to wait and see what ps3 was capable of in reality than shown on the paper. Had sony admitted that its a superior console to ps2 and xbox1 then it would have had more fans than haters. BUt no they thought they could fool the public again after the CGI power of ps2 chipset.

ALas we are at the situation that most gamers chose 360 for their gaming needs and only sony lovers and followers picked up ps3 and defend it like its their own creation. Lets not forget that Nintendo, targetted the wii at casual market and did not overhype wii as the only console for gamers and next gen doesnt start without a wii.

90% of 360 fanboys acknowledge 360s issues with RROD and even though its a big inconvenience they still go for 360 cause of its gaming and online features, whereas ps3 fans defend the blu-ray and teh cell and curse the devs who have trouble with making any sense out of programming for this hastly thrown technology.

Grow up ps3 is named 3 for a reason... And its not the iteration of the console.

[JHUX]

360 fans should dream of having this game if they don't have a ps3, cause it really is amazing. Put your fanboy side to the side and just give the game a play.

And so far when it has come down to 1st party games, the ps3 has exceeded the 360 in graphics, and it will continue to get better down the road. The Cell and Bluray will prove to be important factors I am going to bet as time goes on. People act as if these consoles will have the life span of the original xbox ( :) ), We are still early in this gen, or "console war", but right now Sony is keeping a faster pace than microsoft, and is making profits off there sales.. Luckily microsoft is completely loaded, cause the 360 has not made anything for them yet.. thanks rrod!.... But when it all comes down to it... does any of that actually matter when it comes to enjoying a console? (Keep in mind I will ignore the RROD for that sentence)... Basically I would like to say F|_|ck fanboys.

If a game is good, I will support it no matter what system... but unfortunately that doesn't work for all of us. LBP deserves nothing less than 9-10/10. I would say 10 :)

[eddispider]

I bought this crap and its just no fun. Even the boring banjo nuts and boltz beats this.

[Information Minister]

You trying to tell me that superman 64 is better than LBP?

[Rob0g0rilla]

One of the best games out. I wouldn't call it a flop since it sold over a million but I guess people would say different since this game got some pretty high scores. I guess the PS3 owners are a lot older. This game needs more advertising. It's a good game but I don't think people know what it's really about?

[Shendow]

Its notthing more then 360 owners crying that they didn't get anything as good as this game and the closest they get is some cheap 2D game that looks like it is for SNES, if LBP was so bad then why is MS worry about it? Hm maybe because its not a bad game or maybe the fact that hitting the "E" for everyone market would help sells...hm where did I hear that from....oh yeah Wii!!! its beating both of them because of it being more family base and thats why the got LBP. Sony lacks good "E" titles and 360 lacks "E" games that don't blow, it might not do really good but it sells and thats what matters.

P.S. Have fun with your high fail rate 260.

[Gambit07]

Why would gamers give a Fck about these numbers, just enjoy the games.

[bmatthews]

My point exactly...

[bmatthews]

why, do we have to argue and fight? over the sales of a game...

can't we all just get along and play these games to E N J O Y them?

[XDF]

I am very happy that this game(I have a copy, play it for like 1 hour and neve touch it again), but it is not my type of game. If I wanted to play a proper 2D Platformer, I 'll fire up my SNES emulator and play Mario. Yes ithas sold about 800.00 copies thus far and it will probably end up with about 2 million Lifetime total but the point is this game was hyped by Sony (like tey always do) as the next Titanic of videogame an thus far it has fail. It is no way a mass appeal game like Guitar Hero, Mario Kart or Wii Sports. Those game you can just pick up and play by anyone. This game is Harcore disguised as a Casual game like I said before. Casual gamers don't care about Blu Ray or HD this or That, that is why Nintendo is making a killing. The PS3 and x360 have are harcore systems and the only games that sells are Shooters, Western RPG, action, Sports, and Racing games. Sony just need to stick to this formula and advertise the hell out of Killzone 2, GOW3, and GT5 and they will be OK. But LBP is not the answer.

[snp]

"the point is this game was hyped by Sony (like tey always do) as the next Titanic of videogame"

That's just not true. This wasn't some product commissioned by Sony to fill all the male fantasy pastiche's of already well selling products (blood, male testosterone grunts, guns, muscular figurine characters in homogenised invasion setting etc), and then given tens of millions in budget with an extensive advertising program prearranged..

It was a small project given room to breath and develop by a new and small startup who were largely working out what they were creating as they went. It's intent, logically, would have been to be no more than a diversification product for their catalogue - it's just too unknowable terrain to ever have been 'supposed to be' anything else (just as it's long term success will remain an unknown for quite some time given it's a uniquely expanding product, and so different from traditional typically front end loaded products).

The 'hype' that swam around it was anything but manufactured. Word of mouth spread via nothing more than trade shows and a situation of people continually being charmed by it. The second part of the anticipation came about because of the games critical success.

You're welcome to not like it - nothing is going to appeal to 'everyone'; although if you have only given it 'one hour', literally, i'd suggest you've barely tapped into what it has to offer - but it's just not fair to push that this thing was 'designed' ground up to be some Gears of War 2 etc. type seller. Yes once it had released it had a fair bit of bizz momentum behind it - and indeed a world where an expanding platformer selling '1 million' in a month is considered a 'flop' is a rather strange one - but all that was born of the product, not of anything cynical or pandering from Sony's marketing team.

[snp]

Which champ is it that randomly hits 'disagree' without any actual argument? Seriously, that's incredibly obnoxious.

There's nothing there to disagree with - LBP wasn't a diled in teen male pastiche. Nor did it have an enormous budget and advertising budget. Nor was it 'hyped' by anything more than trade shows and industry (and limited internet) reaction.

[Naked-Snake]

Some of the greatest games of all times "Flopped" in sales, SoTC, Ico, that's I can think of for now because I am tired ...

Edit : KarlosTomy you're pathetic, you're probably going to say that you didn't make it yourself. You stole it from someone else which makes you even more pathetic.

[NickIni]

Lol @ ignorant arseholes that think bad sales mean a game's a flop, despite many praising reviews from buyers and reviewers.

This is the only game I've bought since Twilight Princess that I haven't been disappointed in.

[psycho360]

Do we need an opinion of a 12 year old kid?

[karlostomy]

the developers might think it's a flop after spending more money developing it than what they recoup in sales...

...just a thought...mmmkay?

[NickIni]

No, we don't. So why are you commenting?

@23.2

True, but it's been out just over a month. It hasn't sold badly, just not amazingly. There's still plenty of time for it to sell well.

[Jdoki]

Sales figures for LBP may not have been great in our opinion, but I'd be surprised if LBP hasn't generated a profit already. I doubt the beta had much effect on sales at all.

A game like LBP is never going to sell in the multi-millions, or even shift hardware. It's a new IP, and a quirky game.

But what it has done is show that Sony are happy to invest in innovative new IP. In one fell swoop they've shown MS as nothing but poor imitators; and Nintendo as having lost the ability to appeal to both hardcore and casual in one title.

LBP manages to be accessible to casual gamers, and provide long hours of fun for more hardcore gamers too.

And for that I am grateful Sony are in this industry.

[Ldubbz]

I didnt know a platformer with great customization was so different. IMO, its STILL a platformer, albeit a pretty good one. But the control has been derided by more than a few, which isnt good for a platformer.

I truly believe in looking for something 'different' and especially something promising from Sony, many people have overhyped this game. And I think the sales reflect that. Thats why I hate to see the term 'overhyped' thrown around to stuff that doesnt deserve it. You dont overhype something when it sells MONSTER units, like Halo 3 or GTA 4 (not to mention great reviews). But when it doesnt sell like the hype that preceded it, that IS overhype, meaning the hype outdid the actual outcome.

At its heart, LBP is a platformer with great customization, but in the pure platformer sense is it better than Super Mario Galaxy? More creative? I think not, and I think sales have reflected that.

[Dragunov]

I must sell LBP, is so casual and childish... I need some homoerotic marine game just to look more hardcore and manly, just like these 12 year old boys in XBL ;)

[Sez]

yet sonyfanboy are praising KZ2,R2,MGS4,ect(which by what you said and i quote) "I need some homoerotic marine game just to look more hardcore and manly, just like these 12 year old boys in XBL".

i think your the 12 year old boy. instead of just enjoying your game and not worrying about what fanboys/websites has to say about sells. like a child. you want to start insulting people. well i guess your comment apply to you guys too. since sonyfanboys brought socom and R2 more than they brought LBP.

[SprayandPreycom]

are we safe to say its a game mainly for kids ??
how many kids do you know have 460$$
man i need some coffee .

[STLiens]

Thats why no game do well at all, because they don't advertsie them. Ive seen a MGS4 commercial and a R2 commercial, but no LBP commercial. Its sad too because LBP has a chance to win GOTY but since Sony doesn't want to spend the cheese to advertise it. It might suffer.

[JokerSGS]

Didn't it sell over a million already?

[PS360PCROCKS]

Well the commercials suck! My fiancee saw the commercial and I told her I wanted to get it for my nephew for christmas and she told me that it was probably one of the dumbest looking things she's ever seen, coming from someone who loves the Wii games. So the commercials suck and don't do it justice, Sony blew it.

[bmatthews]

about the sales??

just play and enjoy the damn game, what's the point arguing over game sales...would you enjoy the game more if it sold better??

[DroN4eG]

is a flop.

[Ldubbz]

Lets get one thing straight first; flop refers to how well something sells, not its critical reception. With that out of the way, there are a lot of sides to this that have pretty much been explored by most of u here.

Has the game actually flopped? If u look at the numbers against the huge numbers of Gears, Fallout, or Fable, then yes. The whole point of why these articles are being written and so many are commenting is simple.

Many people last year would post a long list of games that were gonna move PS3's and kill the 360, whose games were going to be terrible and sell terrible...all BS aside, could you imagine the BFD people would make if some wrote an article 3 months ago how Fable 2 would drastically outsell LBP?

So now is that time again...u can already see the new lists being generated for next year of all the PS3 titles that will own the 360. But for 360 fans it had been a cautious look to each year, awaiting the inevitability of a Sony takeover. but over the last couple of years the tables have turned, and 360 fans dont need to post lists to know that next year will be a great year for the 3-6-Oh.

Sales DO matter to gamers like us. Yes, we all know they matter for the financial stability of game publishers/devs we like, but more importantly sales now reflect community, and the bigger the game sales the bigger the community online. Yes, I pay for LIVE but its also to be a part of a very enthusiastic community that buys games in droves. Even in an extremely crowded field, games like L4D do great on the 360.

Unfortunately at this time PS3 owners just arent as excited about their games...or a good percentage of them also own 360 (and Wii...) and would rather buy more SW elsewhere. How else could you explain how some of you have stated "the best reviewed game ever" cant outsell much lower profile titles?

[ind1]

After playing the BETA, I felt I had played it all.

You create levels, you upload them and you download them.

The only levels that got praised were the Mario type look-a-likes, or the Uncharted: Drake Fortune type levels, or a level which you can drive a car in..

After sometime, I'm left there with just downloading random games which either don't have a challenge or are challenging, but just not even that fun, seriously.

I have found a couple of levels that were pretty well made & challenging, but I just thought to myself "I'm not even having fun, it is well made but it isn't fun"..

[TUFFnNYC]

I understand where your coming from. Not every game is gonna be someone's cup of tea. As for me im pickin up the game today. I seem to be more thrilled with creating levels and challenging myself to create levels no one else has. But considering a game to be a flop because of sales isnt justified. Haze and Lair are flops. Often criticized by most gaming sites. However, LBP was highly praised. I do believe that LBP will be fine. Sales will grow steadily. But it is up to many factors such as heavy advertisement. I will judge the game for myself today. Lets see how that goes.

[devilhunterx]

X-mens on PS3 only news. Will wonders never cease (hops to the latest RROD articles)

[zodiac909]

funny how all you fuking nerds talk about this stuff! makes me laugh just to see you all debate about why it flopped or which game is better than this and that one! its sad to see you all wasting your lives...

[cpuchess]

Hey thanks for joining us..

[grantps3]

it didnt flop
it was a truly amazing game that i have a trillion hours of gameplay on. and it can be for hardcore gamers....its the casual gamers who are only into FPS or racing or something. The build a level is far from casual.

this game DID live up to the hype, it just didnt sell as good as predicted because some people were too ashamed to like a game were you play as a puppet. My 360 friends from were i live call me a Pvssy for liking it. Then i played it with them....they liked it so much they played for 6 hours straight and then helped me make a level.

it sold well, but not what was expected...also wait till christmas has past and then we will see its true numbers.

[mcm]

I wouldn't say this game is a flop. It's just one of those titles that will have a cult following like:
ICO
Okami
Shadow of Colossus
Every Extend Extra
to name a few.

All of those games were quality titles but were not best sellers.
They didn't get the recognition until later.

[Spike47]

so they call it a flop and try to make this whole LBP being a flop idea.

FLOPS ARE MEASURED THROUGH QUALITY NOT REALLY SALES, AND STILL LBP SOLD WELL NOT BAD.

[cpuchess]

Flops are measured by business executives by how much money it makes. They couldn't care less if it's unique or special in any way. If tic-tac-toe could sell for a $100 million you bet they would be pushing it and working on the sequel.

[Mindsucker]

"CinemaBlend.com is a private, independently owned website which is intended only as entertainment. The views expressed on this website may or may not reflect those of its owner. Don't take us too seriously. "

This comes direct from there web site. All you suckers that actually take this seriously really need to get some therapy. Man some of you people need to get off your happy little cloud and come back to reality. The more you read this crap the more money these company make from it. So the more controversial they make it the more popular it is and the more $$ these tools make from selling out to a corrupt industry.

[squablo]

I love everything about little planet, or at least everything it is supposed to be. Maybe the game is a "flop" because its broken. This game has been out for a while now, yet I just tried to play a game online and the lag is unbelievable!

This is my main problem with the game. I have at least 3 good friends that also have ps3s, and we never play this game together. Why? well its because the lag, even with just one other person, totally makes the game unplayable with other people.

Yes, the game is broken. No, its not my internet connection, or my friends connections either. All of our networks are configured properly for psn, and all our ps3s are hooked up with ethernet cables, thru a cable connection.

When people ask me about little big planet, I tell them its a good game, but its broken. Period.

So, how about this? Next time somebody wants to make a killer community game, lets make it so that the community part actually works.

[Anon1974]

I'm confused. I'm just playing through LBP now and I think it's fantastic. It received excellent reviews and seems to have sold a million units in a month. Did I miss something? "It didn't sell as many units as Gears 2." Is the author of this article stupid? This is a platformer. Shouldn't it be compared to other platformers, like Ratchet and Clank or Banjo Kazooie? Call me crazy but I wouldn't look at Puzzle Quest sales and compare them to Gears anymore than I would compare LBP sales to Gears. That's madness.

If you're going to compare Gears to anything you'd compare it to MGS4, GTA4, or Halo or at least something close to the same genre. I just tried that and here's a fun fact for you. MGS4 has a higher attach rate on the PS3 than Gears 2 does on the 360. So does GTA4 on the PS3. Interesting.

[XDF]

You two are some of the biggest Sony Fans in this site and defend everthing bad regarding the PS3 and its games. The truth is, it is not the general public but the diehard fanboys that keep saying this game will be the Savior, System Seller, etc., etc.. and will be the deciding factor this year for the PS3. Common, this game is like Viva Pinata and/or Banjo for the PS3. It is descent and great at time and pretty revolutionary but it is not going to turn things around for the PS3. Like I said earlier, they need to get GT5, GOW3, and Killzone out along with heavy advertising and a pricedrop and they will be OK. I love my PS3 but just as a Blu Ray player right now and its function but it really need those heavy hitters like GOW and GT5 to come out soon.