Xbox 360 storms past 7m sales in Europe

MCV: Two million sold since June; Platform holder predicts its 'best ever Christmas'

[Arsenal4Ever]

So it has 7 million in Europe. 11 million in America and 800,000 in Japan.

That's 18.8 million sold. Have I got the figures wrong or has Sony just been doing so well in Europe that the lead has almost dwindled down to nothing??

I think PS3 has 5/6million in America. 2. something in Japan and an install base of 17 million worldwide.

In other words PS3 has at least 10 million in Europe

[Fishy Fingers]

MS have just confirmed they're just shy of 25 million units. Shipped/sold I don't know, but it's more than 18.8 either way.

[green]

Going by your logic the ps3 as of June had sold only 11million.4 in the USA,5 in Europe and 2.2 in japan.

So apart from the USA,Japan and Europe (which consists of 51 countries), there are no other countries again that a console can be sold.What happened to the other 137 countries in the world?Did the billions of people that occupy them mysteriously vanish.

[Why o why]

Australia, the rest of asia et el but yep it seems MS have been tricky with the numbers. The price cut in europe definitely done them a favour though as its now cheaper than the wii with twice the tech (except wireless and motion control)

[Why o why]

yeah green, i see you telling ALL those 360 guys that there's more than just doing well in NA to this console war to the point where im now BORED of you being sooo objective *sarcasm* yeah, ummm, right

[Arsenal4Ever]

1.2 - PS3 has install base of 17 million.

5/6mil in USA, 2. something in Japan thats total of 8 million so PS3 in europ must have.

17-8 = 9million.

PS3's ahead in Europe by about 2 million

360

USA 11 million
Japan 800,000
Europe 8 million

Thats 19.8 million.. PS3 17 million Worldwide.

[green]

Pls can you provide a link to prove that the PS3 is at 9 million in Europe?

[vasilisk]

There's something quite fishy whenever microsoft releases their numbers. Two months ago they stated that they were 22 million 360s sold worldwide. Now it's close to 25. With the NPD numbers telling us that they sold around 700K in NA during these 2 months (their strongest territory) I don't see them selling 2.3 million consoles for these months to the rest of the world.
Now they're telling us that they sold 5 million 360s in 30 months and then they sold another 2 million in 6 months. And the price cut was in September, alive only 2 months now...
Anyone wanna bet that these 2 million consoles are consoles shipped for the holiday season?

[vasilisk]

PS3 is not at 9 million in Europe But it's closer to 8.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Sony stated that they were at more than 5 million back in May. That's 5 million consoles in 14 months because we all know that PS3 was not launched in Europe in Nov 2006 but in March 2007. What took 360 30 months to reach in Europe, PS3 did it in 14 months. So Sony sells approximately 2.2 million/6 months. If you add the fact that Metal Gear Solid 4 was launched in June then it's safe to say that they sold around 2.5 million at least for these six months placing them near 8 million consoles right now.

[jaysquared]

There's no way the PS3 has sold 9 million in Europe. It was just at 5 million this past May.. You really think with the financial crisis Sony was able to sell another 4 million in 6 months? It tooke them 1.5 years to get 5 million!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/...
http://www.xbox360fanboy.co...

Love how PS3 fans just flinging numbers around without doing research first!

@Above- please provide a link that says sony has sold 8 million PS3s. If not please rewrite your post to "I think Sony is close to selling 8 million."

In my opinion judging from the bad global economy and the cheaper 360 I would put the PS3 at 7 million as well.. I guarantee however that the 360 will surpass the PS3 this coming holidays because of price alone!

[vasilisk]

Nope you're wrong. As I wrote above, PS3 launched March 2007 in Europe, not November 2006. So it's 5 million consoles in 14 months not in 18 months as you claim. It's funny how you accuse people of not doing their research...
So it's 2.2 consoles per 6 months average for PS3. If you think that PS3 sold less than that with MGS4 out in June for this 6 month period then anything I say won't make any difference. If it's not close to 8 million then it's definitely around 7.5.
And secondly as I wrote above it took 360 30 months to reach 5 million and it took PS3 only 14 months. This means PS3 outselling 360 in Europe more than 2:1. You logic is flawed. You say there's no way for a company that sells 5 million in 14 months to sell 3 million in 6 months (with the release of MGS4 which had a great impact in Europe) but then you easily accept a company that sold 5 million in 30 months to sell another 2 million in 6 months.

[Why o why]

damn

why you smack him so hard. Its like the sense you made makes no sense to them at all. Its right there in MS's and Sony's own numbers. I wonder if anybody can take u on with those facts....lets see

bubbles 4 u anyway

[jaysquared]

I'm sure MGS4 made some impact in PS3 sales but dont think that big of an impact you make it out to be. Unless you can provide links that prove other wise your words are just like the word of PS3 fans proclaming how LBP is going to sell 2 million its firt week and how its going to move over a jillion PS3 consoles! LOL! I dont think LBP even sold a single ps3 consoles! Gotta love it though!

Europe is Sony land(even though they keep getting f!cked over by Sony)and the anti trust lawsuits brought on by European Union over M$ practices a few years back didn't help at all in selling the 360s at first. But now that's all settled and no longer in the news M$ is image is getting better. Even better with the new cheap console and the great games coming out! So i'm not suprised that Sony at launch sold more compared to the 360 but like everybody says it doesn't matter how your start its how your finish is where the race is won.

Every PS3 fan in this place proclaimed that 2008 will be the year the PS3 outsells the 360 because it was outselling 360 the FIRST 8 months of the year! But what every PS3 fans keep forgetting its the last 4 months of the year that really counts. And guess who the 360 just outsold 2:1 this last NPD? If that keeps up in the biggest gaming market in the world and the 360 sales continue the way they are in Europe then the 360 doesn't even need japan to outsell the PS3 this year!

Edit-Also according to NPD the PS3 sold after May 2008 in N. America
june 2008-405k
july 2008-225k
august 2008-185k
september-232k
October-190k

Total= 1,237,000 PS3 sold after May 2008 even if you add mays number which is 209k the PS3 in N. America, the biggest gaming market in the world Sony only sold a little less than 1.5 million PS3s. With those numbers you really think the PS3 could've sold 3 million PS3s in Europe when it couldn't even sell 1.5 million in the BIGGEST GAMING MARKET in the world? We dont' know how much Sony has sold in Europe right now but I highly doubt unless you can provide facts that its at 8 million. In fact after pulling those NPD numbers I highly doubt the PS3 is even at 7 million in Europe!

[MURKERR]

a lot of reports state over 33% thats over a quarter of sales so how many of these so called 'millions' were to the same customers? ms are being very coy and elusive show some financial sheets like sony and nintendo do

they say every cloud has a silver lining ms have used rrod to inflate numbers

[jaysquared]

and how many of those 100 million plus PS2 owners were returned customers because their console stopped reading DVDs or they wanted to upgrade to the slim ones? We dont know but it doesn't really matter. A console sold is a console sold..

"ms are being very coy and elusive show some financial sheets like sony and nintendo do "

What are you talking about M$ is a publicly traded company like Sony and Nintendo they have to publish their financial sheets to their shareholders and to the public.. So get your facts straight before you make yourself look like an idiot!

[Why o why]

damn. you really are just blinded or love playing the 'wrong n strong' role. What vasilisk is saying is that the trend was already in the ps3'e favour and that trend is that it is outselling the 360 regardless. He even corrected your false release date and gave you the numbers. He mentioned the release of metal gear because he believes it would also spike sales on top of the constant outselling of the 360 just like the NPD in the US said it did over there so why not over here huh? What vasilisk didnt mention was that there has been a price decrease in Europe so that logically would spike more sales plus most of the sales charts from Europe show the ps3 on top even though the 360 had a head start.

Remember that it was MS's own people that stated that they had to do more to compete in Europe yet your here banding numbers around and saying stuff like its only certain months that matter. lol cumon now. Ill wait until the end of the year just like last year when the gap was proved to be closing AGAINST what all of you boys were telling us .....tut tut

an A for effort because u did at least try;)

[300]

jaysquared,

The US is the biggest gaming market in the world is it?

This report says different.

http://uk.gamespot.com/news...

In 2007 the US was ranked 3rd, Europe 2nd. Europe is Sony land and Sony sold 5.5m PS3's in 14 months (april 2007 - may 2008). An approximate 6 months of sales using average monthly data gives you 2.3m, add that to 5.5m they where at in May, places them close to 8m in Europe - thats basic math, without taking into account sales spikes like MGS4.

Well done to MS for getting to 7m in Europe. Even if it took ’em longer.

[AAACE5]

It's good to see they are getting some traction in those tires, and not just slipping on the ice like they were doing! Sometimes you have to downshift, in order to make any progress.

For those who didn't get that... The lower price helped them move some consoles.

[Omega4]

WOW 2ml in such a short period very impressive, MS will certainly have one of the best xmas' yet and without a Halo title as well

They are certainly going all out to ensure they beat the PS3 this gen and its defiantly working, come next year with the release of Halo:Recon and the heavily rumored 360 slim there will likely be another explosion of sales to allow them to cruise through 2009 as well without the need of a pricecut

[Fishy Fingers]

MS have stated they will not be another price cut for years, I imagine they've got it as low as they can.

"going all out to ensure they beat the PS3 this gen and its defiantly working,"

Well they been outsold by both the PS3 and Wii since their launch so I'm not sure it's "definitely working". But I imagine they'll have a good Christmas, beating Sony but not close to Nintendo.

[jaysquared]

No console this gen is going to get close to the wii! Its unstoppable at this point. 2 years after it launched and its still selling like hot cakes when everybody proclaimed it was just a fad! Its no longer a fad! the consumers love the wii. The gaming industry is back to to the original king. I can now say Nintendo is going to be this gens console wars winner.

[Sarcasm]

"I imagine they've got it as low as they can. "

If they shut down Rare, they can drop the 360's price to $149 FOR THE CONSOLE WARS WIN!

:)

[BIoodmask]

The price cut in Europe has definitely had a positive effect on Xbox 360 sales. Microsoft has stated previously that sales have increased 200% since the price cut.

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

The price cut was the right move at the right time. The Holiday season sells the most consoles when compared to other times of the year.

[TheColbertinator]

Exactly.Not to mention I have noticed people buying 360s sometimes just for one game like Left 4 Dead or Gears 2.I think people should show some respect to a company dedicated to delivering content like games and updates in a timely manner.Look at how they announced Gears of War 2 this spring,funded the development,and placed it firmly on a November release without delays.I consider that service

[jaysquared]

definitely true steven. also the fact M$ is just delivering the games and providing more and more incentives in paying for XBL. I love the new netflix stream feature this has to be the best update ever!

[cayal]

Yep, they provide excellent service. Just crap hardware.

[Silogon]

Let me do the math really quick... 7 million in 3 years time. Is that good? Ps3 has 6.7 million in not even 18 months time over there... I guess we know how to read into bias media drivel more than ever this gen.

Also, 7 million + 12 million + 800,000 is hardly 25 million units sold world wide, Microsoft. Maybe you should tighten up them sales numbers a bit and the graphics on level 3 while you're at it.

[morganfell]

The overall 25 mil figure comes in because this is the one way in which they finally acknowledge, albeit in silence, that they are counting multiple 360 ownership that occurs when you send your console in for repair. You get a 'new' 360 back (in their mind).

[ultimolu]

I find it extremely suspicious as well. It sounds like they're inflating numbers.

[Foxgod]

howabout you add canada, asia and australian numbers.

[theKiller]

only time will show how weak is the software sales because of multiple consoles per user or when they send a new 360 for those who had problems with their original 360!

i think there is around 3 million unused 360's and the fact that ps3 software is much stronger than 360 in europe since both they r about the same size install bases shows this reality!

ps3 software sales is greater than 360 with the similar install base why?

360 software sales barely double of the ps3 sales in USA and it has 3 time more install base of ps3 why?

[ReTarDedFisHy]

and MS' numbers are based on consoles shipped not sold.

[cmrbe]

Canada is counted in NA. NA is US+Canada+Mexico.

[tortella]

PS3 has surpassed x360 in Europe

MS has shipped 25m x360s but they will reach that number by the end of this december

But bad news is after 08 MS has no more trump cards to play since x360 has already gone below 200$ and is the chepeast console in most parts of the world

There are around 20m PS3s worldwide by NOW. PS3 will reach 23m by December

X360 will hit 26m-27m by the end of December

PS3 will completely crush x360 in 09 when SONY can go for a price cut

an x360 costs less than a PS2 (100 euro) in many parts of the world. Those 25m is the SHIPPED number

[karlostomy]

at the excellent sales numbers for MS.

god. get a life. douchebags.

[pp]

Awesome Microsoft i congratulate you on your imminent victory for world domination.

signed pp.

[Why o why]

im glad to see there is still some humour around here. We need Dark Sniper back on our side to deal with you (all in good fun though)

[360 man]

well 360 has been consistently out selling the ps3 in europe since early september.

so good for them

[Why o why]

there may be nothing wrong with your statement so i've no issue with it its just it doesn't tell the whole story

[IzKyD1331]

the 360 also had like a dozen price cuts in Europe this year, and PS3 has outsold 360 in Europe this year by miles

[shawnsl65]

i'm glad 360 hardcore fanboys will never see the light of ps3. I can't imagine what it would be like for you brats to migrate from xboxlive to psn. You annoy us regular gamers enough with your squeaky voice and annoyance over xbl. Stay away from the ps3 and psn cause you're not wanted there.

[tortella]

Thats MS claim

In reality all games on x360 flopped in europe because of x360's smaller base

PS3 outsells x360 in the PAL region when u consider the middle eastern market which is 30% of PAL and ps3 has an 85% marketshare in ME

PS3 will outsell x360 in November and december worldwide and give it a final death blow next year

X360 is now the cheapest console in europe. It is even cheaper than a PS2 in most eu regions

[Arsenal4Ever]

who needs a link for Europe?

Sony says 17 million sold.

NPD says 5/6 milion
Media create says 2. something million

17 million - 8 million = 9 million = Europe.

Maths isn't too hard is it?

[wicked]

you are forgetting the about the rest of the world, i.e not in europe / Japan /USA.

[Foxgod]

indeed, australia, new zealand, canda etch

[bomboclaat_gamer]

dummy

[Immortal Kaim]

Your ignorance is why the US is not respected in the international community, please refrain from posting your 'opinions' if you can't even justify your statements. Sorry Champ, the US is the third biggest videogame market, Oh look at that, Europe is the second biggest.

http://www.gamecyte.com/eur...

[BIGBAER]

You have plenty of time.

Come on, please! For your own sake take some time to consider your posts. As others have already pointed out, you are excluding significant market---and peoples---from your calculations.

Japan numbers do not include, logically, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and Hong Kong not to mention the entirety of the rest of Asian sales e.g. India et al.

And then we have Australia, New Zealand and Tasmania.

How about the Arabian peninsula and all the way down to The Republic of South Africa?

You see? Don't disenfranchise these gamers from adding their purhases to the console tallies. MS's Xbox 360 has plenty of support in the above regions to make their stated numbers.

[BIGBAER]

...as well as Central & South America. World sales means just that---WORLD SALES.

[Silogon]

http://www.vgtilt.com/2008/...

Bout sums it up.

[Why o why]

which it seems it isnt. TUT TUT. like vasilisk said in the gamerzone. IF NPD said they sold 700k in their strongest territory in the same period, where did the rest come from if it wasnt japan or europe........ Australia maybe??

[karlostomy]

will you stop trying to get hits for your pathetic blog?

You are the biggest saddest, douchebag, selfpromoting, narcissist i have ever encountered!

If you need money, then get a job!

You are worse than Bruceongames.

fuuuuuuuck.

[dale1]

so its 7 million not 8.68 million as vg chartz said,also 2 million shipped not sold since june, and were in mid nov.i should think most retailers would be stocking up from october onwards for the xmas rush good time for the numbers game.

[Arsenal4Ever]

so it's higher than 17million then? BTW which data do we have includes Africa and india??? PAL right?

[Foxgod]

canada and australia are also important, and india falls under asia.

[earwax]

http://news.filefront.com/e...

Fing ZERO BTW, COD? that is what America did for YOUR ass NOT ours. Enjoy that Muslim invasion too h.omo

[Arsenal4Ever]

PS3 has 9 million in other terrotories. (sp.)

NPD 5/6million
Media Create 2. something million

SONY SAYS 17 MILLION so... 17 million - 8 million = 9 million

Am I right? PAL has 9 million sold vs X360's 7 million

360

NPD 11 million
Media Create 800,000
PAL = 7million

18.8 million... vs 17 million (SOLD not shipped).

MS will do 25 million SHIPPED, not sold. PS3 is only 1.8 million behing 360 in Worldwide Sales

[Redlight]

Your keyboard appears to be broken.

[timmyrulz]

I see you are out in force since the introduciton of the groundbreaking and unrivalled NXE for the x360, your force is been felt on every x360 thread with your lies, propeganda, your imaginary bull rubbish and your damage control.

A bit like a wounded lion your trying to fight your corner, lashing out in some vain but pointless hope that the console of your choice will rise from the ashes.

The time is now, the hour is upon us, the revolution is in its earnest. The brand knows as xbox is smashing its way into history, outselling its competitor on a global basis. Bringing you great entertainment and fantastic value, xbox is the place to be, right here right now

Xbox, the people have chosen

[timmyrulz]

1.8 million? haaa haaa haaa haa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haa haa haa haa haa haa haa haa haa haa haa

"Viera woooo Viera woooo, give Ryan Giggs the ball and aresnal won fcuk all"

"Theres only one, Arsene Wenger, theres only one Arsene Wenger, with a packet of sweets and a cheeky little Smile, Wenger is a fcuking paedophile"

[Arsenal4Ever]

ARSENAL 2 - 1 Manchester United.

Give it up loser!!

[Why o why]

did u get lured in by the sweeties. how'd he taste

ARSENE KNOWS

[Firstkn1ghT]

Congrats Microsoft! You did it! You won the next gen war. :)

[Irving]

I almost spit my coffee on the keyboard. You should at least warn people before making such comments :D

[FinalomegaS]

this war between the 2 behemoths last a few more years and Sony will have time to catch up, since MS new console will launch and they will kill off some support for the 360. Ok now I'm talking crap lol... Who knows the hell will happen, maybe sony will drop the ps3 to 199$ and MS will drop the 360 to 99$ to save our down turn economy lol and everyone will have a gaming system. the wii... on the other hand, ninendo ups the price to 299$ because their rolling in the dough and nintendo goes bankrupt from the stock market, all it's investors jumps ship and Hiroshi Y. dies and his stock gets sold off. Man what a future!

that's the war to win, the battle at hand, will be this Christmas.

Sony has some high end games this xmas but will it be enough to put a halt in MS arcade/ gears2 walk to victory? surely they both are fighting for 3rd place. Can the wii over take the ds and win the holiday .

I love christmas specials :)

[belal]

the ps3 is at 17/18 million by now and the 360 is at 21 mill or less ;) just live with the facts that the ps3 is kicking the shiattt out of 360 all over the world even with a price cut!!!!!!!!

[Antan]

^^Wheres the finish line? Have i missed it?^^

[NowGen]

XBOX360

[Antan]

hhmm, no that says XBOX360.....The finish line comes at the end of the life cycle. Come back to me in 5 years or so.

[timmyrulz]

How about:

Arsenal 0 - 1 Hull pmsl
Stoke 2 - 1 Arsenal pmsl
Arsenal 0 - 2 Aston Villa pmsl
Arsenal 4 - 4 Spurs pmsl

Etc etc

"Champions champions"

[shawnsl65]

grow up you lil freak. I'm glad you don't own a PS3. Every logical gamer other then dumb ass zombie lemmings know that MS is always full of shiit when it comes to #.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Yes says Shawn the $ony lemming zombie!

Give it a rest! How funny that the $ony chum strokers will believe bullsh*t numbers from $ony that they've matched XBL subs with zero pause and then question every single number that comes from MS and try and spin it.

[shawnsl65]

you're a retarded fanboy crab. Check out my history post since you have plenty of time anyways. I'm a gamer, i only speak what is on my mind and i do own all 3 systems. Everyone knows Microsoft is full of shiit when it comes to #'s other than you and the rest of your fanboy boy scouts. What kind of company waits til people's warranty to run out to release the RROD NXE update? If my box dies, that's it for it.

oh i forgot who i was typing to. The blind crab PP.

[Irving]

nm

[sonyfanonly]

what you xbox people fail to realize is that the cheapest model of the 360 is the only one that is selling and its what 200 bucks look at the ps3 the cheapest ps3 is like 400 and its selling slowly but it is sellin and look what happens when they drop the price - the ps3 will overtake the 360 very easily so you xbox people just shut up and buy a ps3 -

is the moderaters going to erase my comment from n4g because i am a sony fan they have done it before

[pp]

Arsenal is Sh*t.

[DJ]

I'm really starting to wonder about the validity of Microsoft's figures.

They claim to have sold 22 million so far, and are betting they'll sell another 3 million consoles in the next 6 weeks (best of luck to them). But if they're at 12.5 million in the US, 1 million in Japan, and now 7 million in Europe...that adds up to a little over 20.5 million units total.

It looks like they're only giving us Shipped numbers again. That puts Sony at around 4 million units behind Microsoft; maybe a little less if you count hardware failures (16% overall). PS3 is at 16.8 million units right now.

[FinalomegaS]

MS & Sony normally give their shipped numbers. All PR shows the same bullox, the numbers are out there but let's not rely on them as though it is the holy grail. What we need are the financial reports for their shareholders world wide hehe, then we can talk numbers. So we should try and do some snooping around the net to get some real figures >:)

[DJ]

Not shipment figures. Sales are all that matter, so it makes sense for them to do that. Every PS3, for instance, has a tracking code so that every purchase is relayed back to SCE fairly quickly.

[Death]

Can you back that up with a credible source?

-Death

[fishd]

Sony record a “Sale” as an actual sale , not a shipment to retail or warehouse.
This is written in their financial report
see:
http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...
http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...
"Beginning from Q1FY07, the method of reporting hardware and software unit sales has been changed from production shipments to recorded sales"

[Xi]

all 3 companies use sales as shipped number, including sony. No where in those reports does it say otherwise.

"prododuction" refers to consoles made (including sony warehouse numbers), recorded sales are to retailers, installed units or sold to consumers are the only ones used for customer sales.

[cherrypie]

"little less if you count hardware failures (16% overall)"

Take this crap to the open-zone. Hardware failures are WARRANTY repaired -- not new sales. Only an idiot can imagine otherwise. STFU.

[Turbo Teddy]

I just got an Xbox 360 - So I guess that I a little part of the numbers, but I have the PS3 since release, but since they dropped the price quite a bit, I think I can afford to raise above the console war and just enjoy the games.
Still think that the PS3 is more spectacular, but cant play Gears on that one..

[gdguide]

18M PS3 is probably shipped, 7M 360s in Europe has got to be shipped. Considering there are new SKUs for the 360 in the form of so many bundles, surprise surprise, the stores got a load of new shipments. ;)

[Jeremy Gerard]

What ever the Euro numbers are they are very close, but according to PS3 fans the PS3 has been raping 360 in EU since launch, if this is the case how can they be so close in sales numbers? I guess all that "PS3 out selling" was meaningless, in another month 360 will have a solid lead in EU.

[cayal]

Compare release dates and then average it out per month.

[Guitarded]

Typical N4G nazi tactics. You boys should give up. PS3 will remain in third place throughout this generation. Nothing you type here is going to change that.

[Magic_The_Celt]

Haha sony has still sold more in europe, quite a bit more actualy and thats with the Delay of the PS3 in europe and substancial time difference too hahahaha

[eagle21]

So this means those tards have only SOLD around 21 million since freakin' 2005. SAD!

[Death]

That means they need to sell 3 million by the end of the month to hit their projected 25 million mark. The numbers released on their last quarterly statement stated they had sold 22 million. This is not an exact number and the financials didn't come off the press hot. This was an estimate. Either way, they sold 700,000 according to NPD in September and October in North America. Europe and "others" usually come close to North American sales. Combines with Japans numbers, they should have close to 1.2 - 1.5 million coming into Novemebr. November is a strong month for everyone. If Microsoft came into November with 23.2 - 23.5 million, this isn't exactly a long shot to 25 million. That is keeping in mind that NPD, Media Crate and Chart Track are all estimates and don't include every nation on every continent.

Not much "fishy" with the numbers unless you really want there to be.

-Death

[Xi]

So wouldn't they need to sell those 3 million by the end of January?

either way, bubbles for logic.

[M3 Superhero]

LIKE I CARE.. jk

[Rampant]

Here comes the homeschooled Sony Mafia.

Don't forget kids:

Europe + America + Japan = World.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Now these mental nutjobs are actually saying their is 1.8mil in difference in install base!! They get worse with their FUD and lies by the week.

[cherrypie]

With the market in its current state, its no problem understanding that price will matter.

And, it will matter even more than the past..

We know that 75% of a console's sales happen *after* it reaches $200 or less.

What does this tell you? That the *vast mass* of Xbox 360 sales are about to *start*, and that accelerated sales are what is going to bury the PS3.

I'll bet the PS4 will come sooner than you expect, *and* it will be little changed over the PS4 in order to minimize the "retooling / retraining" in the studios -- they wont be very happy if the PS4 pulls the same BS with unproductive development as the PS3 is.

[cherrypie]

You're doubting the "validity" of MS's figures? HUH?

You do know that all of this is required to be accurate for Sarbanes Oxley **and** SEC rules right?

They cant make sales claims in public that are *not* accurate.

Are you people 10 years old? Get an education FFS.

[RRoDReaper]

Probably why people bought more :(

I'm too greedy

[ambientFLIER]

To all the dorks that are adding up the numbers...Do you know that there is more to the world than just Amerika and Yurop? F*cking retards...

[tonywood]

I guess these sales includes the replaced and re-buys of other faulty systems. Microsoft, stop lying!!!! You may pull the wool over the eyes of everyone else on here, but I happen to be intelligent. Seriously, you gonna try to say that damn near as many systems are being bought in Europe as in the USA?

Everyone, listen up...the number of systems that MS claims to have sold is not every on record, and why is that? BECAUSE THEY LYING!! (LOL...) I don't even believe that there are 20 million working xbox 360 systems in existence.