Xbox360 in the #1spot this holiday season and beyond While Peter Moore gets smashed on the HipHopGamerShow 9/21/08

* 360 destroying the competition
* Naruto: Rise To Ninja Review
* Peter Moore Gets Smashed
* Life With Playstation Finally Arrives but was it worth the wait?
* Will Nintendo wii end up in last place this holiday season?
* Much Much More Enjoy The Show

[SwiffEpics]

another great show

[Jamie Foxx]

but hiphopgamer is certainly just a gamers gamer and tells it as he sees it so kudos,360 is going for the jugular this holiday season,we as the consumer are certainly reaping the awards from this price cut (cheap way to play gears) and because sony must now lower their price microsoft have forced this upon sony,to all the fanboys this is why competition is good

[Genesis5]

3 years into it's life and $199 for a next gen console with no dedicated hard drive and a last gen disc format.(The Wii seems to appeal to alot of non traditional gamers,360 does not) I just can't see the 360 selling Wii like numbers at this stage.

I figure the 360 for 5 million maybe 10 million(life time) bigger install base than the original Xbox. I will have to wait for the numbers obviously. But if the 360 crushes the competition the holiday season I will say I was wrong and everyone that disagrees with me was right.

But I don't think that is going to happen.

[tordavis]

"3 years into it's life and $199 for a next gen console with no dedicated hard drive and a last gen disc format. I just can't see this thing selling Wii like numbers at this stage."

I TOTALLY AGREE! At least you get a hard drive, HDMI/Component and DVD playback with the Wii. And it's cheaper!

[InMyOpinion]

Some would say he's not just biased, but 'PS3-curious'.

Yo yo tordavis! Have you considered renaming the bitbag to the flamebag, since everything you produce are flame articles with no substance?

[theKiller]

if $350 didnt do anything for 360 in this year what will $300 do??

about the arcade well... people buy the wii not only because its cheaper but mostly about its motion sensing controller, i dont know why people want to forget about that fact!!

the arcade will not steal a single casual customer from wii!!
and the premium and elite maybe they have a little bit better chance on competing with ps3!

dont forget ps3 have blue ray, free online,wifi, HOME, and multiple AAA mega hits this fall and finally big blue ray movies like the dark night etc all that for just 100 bugs extra!!

[Jamie Foxx]

because yes we as gamers know the ps3 has alot of advantages technology wise over the 360 but IGNORANCE IS BLISS how else can a console using ps2 technology in dvd9 and have a33% hardware failure rate not be dead and buried.....,theres comments further down from steve saying he may pick up another 360 as back up? rrod seems acceptable now(crazy huh),rrod & ps3s advantages are not highlighted enough to the masses & parents are looking for a cheap way to enter the 'next-gen'

[callahan09]

I like the hiphopgamer, I think he's generally pretty well informed and comes to logical assumptions about things...

That said, and I should also say I haven't yet listened to this episode, I just read the synopsis right here... but all that said, I really don't know why he would think Wii would come in last place this holiday. It will probably come in first place again. Remember, the holiday season is when parents buy stuff for children. That means Wii, as far as I'd venture to guess. Sure, there are teenagers who will get 360's and PS3's, and adults who will ask their girlfriends or wives for a 360 or PS3... but I think that the Wii will continue to be a complete absence from store shelves this holiday, selling through all stock and being the biggest seller yet again.

Also, what is it with these people lately saying 360 is destroying the competition? Last I checked, it has been outsold by the PS3 on a worldwide level every single month this year, and it's been outsold by the PS3 in the USA for the majority of months this year. It only had a small resurgence last month when it sold barely 10,000 units more than the PS3 did in America, and when you're talking hundreds of thousands of units, that is a very small margin of victory. When compared to the Wii, the two systems are in a virtual tie. So I don't see how anyone can claim the 360 is dominating, when it isn't even dominating the PS3 much less the fact that it's still taking a gigantic beating by the Wii.

[leila01]

With €400 you can get an Elite [€250], with a headset, HDMI cable, 120gb HD, Fable/Gears [€60], Gold membership account [€30] and you'll still have €60 remaining.
The PS3 [€400] + a game [€60] + headset [€?)

The PS3 is just too damn expensive. I wonder how this thing keeps selling.

[solidt12]

Great show as always.

[CrazzyMan]

leila01, I agree, PS3 is kinda expensive here in Europe, compared to x360.
BUT..
Price - High Quality console + blu-ray player = media center -> a Family Thing. :)
And 250 for elite? SO far it was 300 and 240 for 60Gb model.

Anyway, there are some positive points about PS3:
1) reliable
2) quiet
3) free online, home
4) build in wi-fi
5) without pain rechargeable controllers
6) blu-ray movies
7) freely changeable hdd
8) disc scratching free system
9) habitual controller for ps2 crowd

[Immaculate]

Depends on how you define high quality game console. The 360 is the highest quality gaming experience period. The most high quality titles+largest game library+best online service= highest quality gaming experience

The price, the amount of media, and award winning controller design are just a bonus.

[CrazzyMan]

"The 360 is the highest quality gaming experience period. The most high quality titles+largest game library+best online service= highest quality gaming experience " - That`s WHY x360 was OUSTOLD by PS3 for almost whole year in all regions?

That make sense.)) Or maybe just consumers DON`T agree with your personal opinion since they are buying more PS3s, then x360s. It`s all about games, isn`t it? :)
It`s a consumer, who DECIDES.

[SCThor]

.its called PC.

[Immaculate]

Crazzyman, you had better enjoy those short lived sales comments while you still can.

SCThor, what's it like sitting in a PC chair playing games on a $800-$1500 dollar PC, knowing that you could have been laying on a couch or bed playing the exact same games for $200? You're kind of weird.

[SCThor]

My ($500,P4 2.4GHZ,2GB RAM,GEFORCE 8600GT)cpu is hooked to my entertainment room's LCD 42", I'm using a Xbox360 controller that connects to the cpu using a wireless receiver and I'm laying on my couch as I write...

(anyone...feel free to type owned,pwned,toasty or whatever you like below this post) :)

[DavidMacDougall]

Probably but how many out of the thousands sold will work? That is the big question

[Shadow Man]

RROD AND DVD9 Ps3s life support.

[DavidMacDougall]

"Shadow Man keeps dipping his toe in the fanboy pool but it never works out for him so he keeps switching sides like his own sexuality" - DMD

I cant tell about you anymore are you a bot or a droid ?

@AlterEgo -Nice list bubbles for u

[AlterEgo]

You mean along with:

Killzone 2
Resistance 2
God of War 3
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
SOCOM: Confrontation
LittleBigPlanet
White Knight Chronicles
Disgaea 3
inFAMOUS
The Agency
Free Online Multiplayer
Home
Blu-ray
everything multi-platform
and everything else in 2009 that's as of yet unannounced?

[Anton Chigurh]

Above

Repeat after me

RIP P$3

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

* The xBox 360 is CR*P

End of SirKenKutaragiShow 9/21/08
Tune in Next week!!! ;-D

[marionz]

actually most will work, i have a new console and the new hardware is much quieter and cooler then my launch pro console, RRoD is pretty much a thing of the past to most 360 owners so its time to just move on.

i actually hope my launch pro console dies before the warranty is up so i can get the new components put in, but yes the new consoles are a huge improvement in both noise and heat, new one doesnt get any warmer then the ps3.

[KiddyBrownTurd]

ROFLMAO

out of all those games, only God of War 3 has the potential to be AAA. and that's if it doesn't suck now that Jaffe AND Balrog are off the team.

poooooooooooor droids

[chewy317]

yea since when can the 360 fight with the ps3 when its still barely winning the ps2.

[NewSchoolGamer]

needs to pray that the xbox360 outsells the PS3 every single month as of the date the price cut is in effect.

If not, Sony can go for the kill.

[KingDizzi]

No praying will help MS, the only area where the price cut can have a continuous effect on consoles ales is NA. In Japan and the EU I can see the increase in sales due to a price drop for a month max but thats it.

If anything I guarantee that the PS3 will outsell the 360 in EU and Japan for the rest of the year, you should see the huge FIFA 09 PS3 advert and also WKC releasing in December 25th.

[egm_hiphopgamer]

if for some reason 360 can't extend the lead over ps3 at a 199 price tag then MS may be in trouble as far as the console wars go because ps3 will eventually become a 199 price and that will be a big blow to MS but i doubt you'll see a 199 price tag on PS3 in 2009 so MS still has tons of breathing room even leading up to there next system

[leila01]

As far as they keep making games for my 360 I'm fine. It doesn't really matters to me if it outsells the PS3 or not.

Glad to see you've dropped you fanboy status HipHop, you're now becoming a real gaming journalist. I'm looking forward to your next show.

[The Dark Knight]

who cares if xbox 360 we be number 1 this season, why do we need to worry? we got Ps3's lol i dont see how being number 1 is so bad when is pretty much has nothing to do with us. I have Both consoles, but for people who dont, you dont need to get angry cause its just business

If anything Good on Microsft

[uxo22]

Nice show! Very Entertaining.

[KingDizzi]

Everyone calls this guy bias but he he just truthful, fanboys can bash him all they want but he makes educated suggestions. Of course the 360 will destroy PS3 sales IN NA, I just hope anyone with any sort of intelligence can accept that.

[GarandShooter]

Define destroy.

[thewhoopimen]

Not that I disagree with the 360 price drop and software lineup as a very strong buy incentive, but what will the 360 have this holiday season that will appeal to the mass consumer? I think gow2 and fable 2 are great games but... they are niche. I still think the wii will squeak past the 360 this holiday season.

[egm_hiphopgamer]

I understand your theory but people stand in line for gears of war, what nintendo has that people will line up for besides smash bros which is already out you see what i mean the hype alone is gonna make it a mass market appeal, keep in mind sometimes people buy stuff just to say they have it and gears is a game like that because of it's popularity

[The Lazy One]

will work in favor of the 360.

By far the strongest lineup this year is in the 3rd party non-exclusive games. When people go to the store and see these amazing games (Rage, PoP, End War, lotsa EA sports games, etc.), which play the same on a $199 console as a $399 console, it's hard to argue with.

Then it still has a strong exclusive lineup, and a lot of new features in the update for the casual gamer (XNA community games, growing XBLA library, Xbox Primetime, Avatars, etc.).

To say it still won't appeal at this price point with the features coming is ignorance.

Summary: 360 is getting plenty of casual and hardcore content, and 3rd party multi platform titles work in favor of the cheapest system.

[thewhoopimen]

good point Hiphop but I still think you and a lot of analysts miss the key word "casual gamer" or lets make it even more mainstream term, "casual consumer." The MASS casual consumer has NO IDEA what is new or not in terms of game release dates, platform exclusive, etc. They look at what everyone else has, whats fun for family, and what people talk about. Sure Gears is going to be a big topic, but moms and dads are definitely going to shy away from this controversial title. No one knows about fable. Besides Gears, there is nothing family friendly per se except viva pinata and part 2.

Wii has the numbers, Wii has the cool controller, Wii has more family friendly games. Wii games will be cheaper b/c of the older age of the titles. Wii is similarly priced, will will win like "tickle me elmos" win.

[edhe]

The cheap-as 360 doesn't just play exclusive games you know. Any multiplatform system seller will sell on the 360, due to the price differential.

I'd imagine force unleashed bundles on the 360 arcade would've sold more than on the ps3.

[NewSchoolGamer]

is will the difference in sales be enough to keep MS on top.

Still, MS can just claim victory in 2010 with their new xbox. Heck the new xbox rumors are already arriving.

[TheColbertinator]

I have been thinking about getting another 360.Just in case the one I have now breaks after November,I have a backup.

[Jamie Foxx]

is what really really worries me about pickin up a 360,but no gamer should have to worry about their console dying, but sadly its fact rrod is very much infamous

[mboojigga]

No gamer should have to worry about the BR drive failing either but it will. Regardless whether you get a PS3 or 360 customers have an option to get a replacement plan based on where they purchased. Simple process.

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

@mboojigga

Failing BluRay drives are insignificant compared to the millions who have received RROD and Microsoft refused service back in 2007.Ignorance is not bliss so I hope you learn that lesson

[leila01]

My 360 is more than a year old (HDMI 360) and it never overheats.
Lets assume your console eventually gets the RROD, that won't happen the first day anyway. So you can buy a 360 now, enjoy the games and IF it dies, Microsoft will repair it for FREE with free shipping. And if you still want to get a backup 360, just get the Arcade unit the day your 360 dies on you.

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

@leila

No because the 360 still gets RRODs including the Falcon model.Please just keep your FUD to yourself

[mboojigga]

Doesn't matter how high it is or low it is for a product failure. We have been in a age of consumer electronics to know that the possibility is still there. That is why I bought a replacement plan when I bought a launch 360 before we knew about the RROD. I have 2 360's and a PS3. I am not one of the millions to have experienced RROD. I have a launch 360 with a Dec 05 and a Oct 07 Halo 3 model.
I have a PS3 80gig from Nov 07. Got a replacement plan on that just in case not vs because of those specific issues. My mindset was better to be safe than sorry for whatever may happen.

[Sergeant Osiris]

over the price drop dies down the 360 will drop back to third place in sales. After that there is NOWHERE to go for microsoft.

[BLUR111]

.

[Vojkan]

You forget

* NO ONE GIVES A S..t!

//////////
I mean really why would his opinion matter anymore than mine or anyone elses on this site? its just an opinion nothing else.

I will always stay to my belief that software sells hardware and i think LBP and RE2 will move ton of them, way more that Fable 2(lol) and Gears of War 2 will. So yes 360 will outsell PS3 in NA but it wont be enormous difference as 360 fanboys are expecting.
360 was also cheaper than PS3 earlier this year and was outsold almost every month by PS3. This is mine unbiased opinion.

[tordavis]

"I mean really why would his opinion matter anymore than mine or anyone elses on this site?"

I'd gladly listen to your opinion too. What's your website? What are you covering at the next VGExpo, GDC and E3? Hit me up bro!

[TOO PAWNED]

@tordavis

Lol since when site = legit, i mean are you serious? Anyone can make site, i mean anyone can learn or pay someone to make them a site, hence there are billions! of pointless sites where people act as experts or consider them selves as expert just cuz they have site with some kind "GAME" connected word.

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

@Tordavis

Your a blogger and just another guy in the internet.Dont get delusional about who you are now.

[etownone]

" I'd gladly listen to your opinion too. What's your website? What are you covering at the next VGExpo, GDC and E3? Hit me up bro! "

agreed.

what makes hiphopgamer different from everyone else is that he keeps it real. Sounds corny but its true.
We all know he's a sony fan but he recognizes the 360's advantage this gen.

[midgetsanx]

Its great to have both consoles. I got the 360 a week ago.

I hope more people buy both of the consoles eventually instead of b!tching about which one is better, because both of them are great.

I'm excluding Wii because I can never find one. God Damn it. =.=

[TOO PAWNED]

Gamecube and xbox were 99 dollars and it didn't help them in thier pointless fight with PS2.
No one will beat Wii this year, so who ever said that is out of his mind or has no knowledge of the industry what so ever.

[LevDog]

360 is going in for the kill? Where? US? Ps3 World Wide has always outsold 360 since Ps3s release..

[TOO PAWNED]

Some ingorant American goes:"So NA is not world? Wow i thought outside of NA some kind of creatures lived there that have no purpose in this american World" / sarc

[SnprSlick]

360 has outsold the PS3 in Japan too. PS3 just has Europe.

[BLUR111]

awwww... it hurts your droid hearts :(

it wont take long for yours to go to 1 bubble DavidMac, I have been on this site for a year and a half now and bubbles come and go

AND i COULD NOT CARE LESS ABOUT FUC N BUBBLES

[DavidMacDougall]

"awwww... it hurts your" bubbles

[silverchode]

droid heart?

[BLUR111]

yea that thing that N4G is in and pumps hope for ps3 fanboys

[59fifty8]

u guys ready for the dream60, im telling u the 360 is going to end up like the dreamcast did it will die pretty fast. remember the dreamcast started by lowering the price.

[tordavis]

Didn't PS3 start their first year by lowering the price?

DC only pushed like 3mil units.

Back into the toolbox you go!

[Shadow Man]

console war is over for x360
http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

in europe and Japan x360 is finished as soon as PES is launched

in USA too LBP will kill x360

[TheColbertinator]

@All of you above

You guys are all epic failures

@59fifty89

They reduced their price because they could not compete with 3 stronger consoles which were the PS2,GC,and Xbox.The 360 only has to compete with one HD system not three

@Tordavis

The Dreamcast sold 10 million units,not three million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

@Shadowman

There has been only one 100 dollar price drop which was last year.The 360 has dropped the price 3 times at least in Europe

I KILLZOWNED you fanboys.Too easy

[DavidMacDougall]

What about me Steven Colbert ?

EDIT: Bubbles for you ..unless im wrong!!

[TheColbertinator]

@David

I just meant the clueless drones here who are stumbling in the dark.I have no problem with people's opinions but if people are wrong,I raise hell.

[dukadork]

itself

[random6789012345]

Haha true its like there emo, i wish my lawn was emo so it would cut its self haha

[Neo604]

this is senseless talk.

[egm_hiphopgamer]

for this holiday season it's possible in my opinion because of hype and game collection from ps3 and 360 but now that 360 is 199 that means you have a true next generation system being cheaper than the wii and people will start to see that the wii isn't worth the price it's at as much any more because 360 offers alot more for a console at a cheaper price

[XXXCouture]

i see what you mean gamer, but people buy wii because of the games and motion sensing. the wii has achieved status of being a party-family-friend-fun gaming console, and that status won't change over a holiday

[Omega4]

Yep 360 will definate have the best holiday season with the pricecuts and Gears 2

PS3 also has a chance of good holiday sales with LBP, but with the bad world economy and the high price of the PS3 i dont see many casual gamers buying a PS3 for LBP

[TOO PAWNED]

Us in Europe will buy it, dont worry our economy is in better shape and PS3 is here like 800USD atm and still sell more than in NA. Dont you worry bud, although i would worry for 360 if i was in your spot, since even if it is half the price of ps3 no one seems to give a ....

[LevDog]

You forget your talking about Holiday season.. Gamers dont have to buy it.. They families, Wifes and GFs will.. Also alot of people might buy it for duel use.. Ps3 is also a Blu Ray player (if you didnt know).. If im a family member I buy it for someone who likes games, only to use it for movies for myself.. Ps3 is the smarter buy

[sak500]

U might have old cash lying there from your pension granpa but in reality hardly anyone wants to waste 400$ on a souped up BDplayer.

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

@sak500

Instead of buying that 400 dollar souped up BluRay player,they can get a PS3 instead.Or they can buy a heater(360) or a toy(Wii)

See,its easy to spin

[59fifty8]

i am saying that i remember buying the dreamcast wen it first came out and then a year later it was the cheapest console. and why killowned ur a bot dont u mean halowend, oh my bad halo suks right gotta pick a ps3 game.

[thekingofMA]

maybe he said killzowned because the last syllable is very similar to the word "owned," which he did to you?

did you even think about it? its pretty obvious pal.

and yes, im sure you got the joke, but your argument is poor.

[juuken]

I really don't think the 360 will surpass the Wii anytime soon. And people seem to be forgetting the PS3's strong lineup for this year.

[egm_hiphopgamer]

PS3's lineup is the best lineup to me this year but because of the price i think people may still wait for another price drop because most likely march 09 the ps3 will drop to 299 and that will be crazy if that happens

[juuken]

Yeah, I think Sony will drop the price next year.

[KiddyBrownTurd]

LMFAO. still pretending you're not a raging droid?

plz enlighten us as to what's better on PS3 this fall than Gears 2 and Fable 2. Just those two alone. Not even mentioning Banjo or L4D. What is better than Gears 2 and Fable 2?

Let's all not forget you actually said Resistance 1 was better than Gears 1 LMFAO.

U stupid droid.

[juuken]

Resistance 2
Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm
White Knight Chronicles
Little Big Planet
Motorstorm: Pacific
WipeoutHD

...

You don't want me to embarrass you even further do you Brown Turd?

I'm a droid and I'm damn proud of it.

[KiddyBrownTurd]

LOL, u must be a droid if you think a single one of those games beats either Fable or Gears 2.

put my penis in your mouth!!!!

[JOLLY1]

Wow, you backtalked too much, it seemed more like you were agreeing with him. resistance 2 good? You didn't play it at PAX. The ps3 hype train must have really been rolling hard at E3. I love how you say that ps overdelivers, yet you dog on life with playstation. "it's a good start". That sounds like they underlivered....to you. Also you think home losing video is bad.....and they are underdelivering. Hmmmm, sounds like they are under delivering....to you.

[LevDog]

Being a PS3 owner.. When they announced Life with Playstation.. It is exactly what they say it would be.. A News and Weather service.. With real time clouds and music (that you can choose from your HDD).. Nothing Free can under deliver.. Its a cool lil App and its interesting to read all the articles from around the Globe.. I can only imagine what it will have with future updates.. Maybe streaming news or new clips.. Or stock ticker and sports ticker.. Trust me for what they said it was gonna be they delivered just that.. For free.. The fact that 360 offers nothing close to it and people pay for it.. Is just plain sad

... Ya I just caught that.. Thats my bad.. but I still stand by my comment.. Just not its not at you.. Its with you

[JOLLY1]

First off, free things can underdeliver. Don't' make me throw out the free food that is undercooked, so you get food poisoning analogy. If you listen to him he sounds disappointed in it. I am not dogging on the app, I am dogging on the person who says one thing then less than 2 minutes later contradicts himself. I noticed that you didn't comment on my whole post though.... I wonder why?

[InMyOpinion]

Google apps are free for everyone just like PSN and Life with Playstation. The only difference is that Google apps don't suck. The "you can't complain about something that is free"-excuse is retarded. Why not make an optional service that is better than PSN and let people who have higher demands pay for it? Kinda like Xbox Live...

[59fifty8]

the 360 line up is laughable compared to ps3 even the wii, the ps3 by far got a better line up then xflop

[MAGNUM-RAM]

when was the last time microsofts won a console war?
can't remember huh?

You must be looking forward to meeting all the homo noobs.
I bet you can't wait to get a achievement for world class useless whatever
you are. What are you? A critic? A cheerleader? A microsoft porch monkey?

Hiphopgamer should phuck you up. You're duma$$ is backing the phasing out DVD.
you would be a tool if you were useful but what's the point of your meaningless show.
you think you got a career in the console war? You realize its gonna be another 8 years of
you asking & arguing about what's better dont you.
Its not that interesting. In real life gamers talk about the console war for 5 minutes & then its back to playing games.
you are boring. When was the last time you worked a real job?

At least hiphopgamer has a future. He calls it & get into it in full detail.
you?! Hah dont make me laugh! You are not needed. You should stay behind
the scenes. I got my ps3 & its all I need. Its not going no where. Go play with little
whiteboys you pervert. You got no skill.

You are broke, stupid & your girl is a hoe.
Please stop wasting peoples time. I'm in new York.
I'm puerto rican & Dominican. I will phuck you up!

You piece of sh••! You are uncomfortable in your own skin & you know it.
that's why yo mamma dont like you. I'm gonna see to it that you quit poppin
sh11T! That has nothing to do with us.
Theres only one champion with a track record. You best change you're tune
on playstation soon or prepare yourself for a phuckN warzone all your best friends & cousins can't handle
you noobtastical waste of space. Keep on keeping on & watch.

[thekingofMA]

first of all, i only see one comment by tordavis here, and it wasn't even directed at HipHopGamer (update: found it in the gamerzone)

but i'm not even going to argue with the rest of the crap you just spewed, as i'm sure you'll just reply with an irrelevant comment like "your girl is a hoe," like you said to tordavis

what i am going to mention, however, is this fine piece of comedy you wrote:

"In real life gamers talk about the console war for 5 minutes & then its back to playing games."

really? 5 minutes? is that why you have been on this site for months (years?) over several accounts, commenting about the console war? by your logic, no one here at N4G are gamers, especially you...

[heyheyhey]

ha, Microsoft have fired all their price drop bullets for at least 2 years

now they can only sit back and pray if sales don't match expectations and the PS3 starts outselling it again... because we know they won't have any system pushing games after Gears for a loooooong time(and even Gears isn't that much of a system) pusher

and you can tell MS knows that Sony has an incredible line-up coming up

[heyheyhey]

i think the PS3 won't win the holiday season war against the 360 in NA.... it will in EU and definitely Japan though

i guess Sony have to try and combat the 360's cut with great games until they are ready to cut the price themselves.... because when they do, MS won't be able to counter it now that they've fired all their price cut ammo

[felidae]

nice show but i don't like how you talk about Sony like they're god or something.

i also think that the PS3 is the better system (for me) but the 360 has some nice games, too.

for me, PS3 exclusives are way beyond anything on the 360.

[MAGNUM-RAM]

its all about games, saving money & getting a all in one value package.
tordavis must shop at old navy because he thinks thier jeans are the best quality.

Yo! Hip hop gamer ! Why do you mess with that dude? He is holding you back!
you sound like you from staten island. When the hellz are you gonna drop that weight?

Tordavis aint even your opposite. He's just a lamo . I really want to fight him but if you say to chill
& leave him alone I might not do it unless you pop him in the mouth for me!
I'm 29 & I will never forget who is the best of all time.

Can you please tell me how many rrod s tordavis has had?
I'm serving that lil biotch every chance I get.
everytime you talk he tries to sound like you are a retard.
in new York his punani a$$ would get knocked.

Please break his face & give his xbox360 the rrod update thanks.

[sak500]

I can see SDF in action again. Every damn article is plagued by these ps3 fanboys. This year again has been failure for ps3 like last 2. You guys can only pray that your savior kz2 will bring it out of this downward spiral.

On Topic. Kudos to MS for beating the beast playstation brand this gen even with less than steller hardware reliability and discontinuation of xbox. THere are more gamers out there embracing 360 over ps3 as we speak and will continue to do so for forseeable future.

If you are not mentally challenged and love games than you shouldnt be without a 360 this holiday season...

Psst MS where is my freebie...

Edit: fanboy n#1 below: You guys have spoiled this site and now are in each and every 360 news. You get the hell out and go and troll your own articles.

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

Stop whining about PS3 fanboys.If you dont like it stop crying and leave.We dont need crybabies here because we are not babysitting.So stay silent or go away if we upset you so much.

No one is asking you to stay

[egm_hiphopgamer]

The console war isn't over yet man just stay tuned and see what happens we don't know what's in store for next year 2009 is gonna be another beast for the industry

[funkysolo]

People seem to forget that soccor mom's are buying game consoles where as before console were bought by gamers and as christmas gifts. PS3 is selling at the same rate as the PS2. Just look at who's buying a wii. I bought a wii for my kids, it's a fun little system, I would never trade my ps3 for one. I could of got 360 but why? wii makes for a better second system

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I can think of one thing and that is supply. Nintendo seems to be constantly struggling to meet demand even this far into its life. Hopefully people will see the 360 as a great alternative if they can't find a Wii.

[OOG]

Cool Cool....

Don't mind the fools on this site at least HipHopGamer is out doing something and actually goes and plays these games etc....all most of you guys do is look at pics and vids and think that you can be critics.

Don't hate.....Appreciate!

[DA_SHREDDER]

Lets just wait and see what happens. The only thing that is gonna come out of this subject is everyone dissing each other. Who cares if the 360 sells more? Sony is gonna produce even more exclusives to justify its higher price tag, and in the end its the consumers that win out of this battle. Honestly Im glad to see the 360 drop its price. That means Sony will have to do something even bigger just to entice the rest of the market's consumers. Like cross game video chat perhaps?

Also, its not gonna matter how much the 360 cost. God of War3, MAG, Motorstorm 2, LBP, and FF 13 vs. is a good enough reason for anybody to buy a ps3. Lets not forget that Sony is just gonna keep building up the franchises that have already proven themselves as best of the best such as Uncharted 2, MLB the show 09, and a new Ratchet and Clank are sure to be out by the end of next year. Pretty soon people are gonna be wondering why they haven't bought a ps3 yet? Even xbox fanboys are gonna have nothing but nice things to say about the ps3. Now that I said that, I can get back to playing some Pure on my ps3. Jesus this game is freakin wicked, and extremely challenging.

Yo, Magnum. I doubt you could beat up Tor. Hes a 6"5 beast. He would probably just pick you up and take a big bite out of you like you was a hamburger out of a happy meal basket.

[Lucreto]

I am lucky I don't need a 360 as my PS3 has all the games I need this year and there is nothing really in its back catalog that interests me that is already on the PS3.

[GOTY 2007]

Sony Asianstation 3rd is DOOMED.

[GameDev]

that's the first funny name I've ever seen given to the PS3. mostly it's lame attempts to mimic what Ps3 fanboys say bout the 360.

[pixelsword]

Yeah, it is... except they were told to make it look like it was American made, so they broke 68% of them.

[DA_SHREDDER]

You guys are pretty pathetic. I cant name one 360 exclusive that is any more fun or prettier then any of the ps3 exclusives. I only need to name one game on the ps3 that is better then the whole xbox 360 exclusive catalog combined. I can name 10 off the top of my head, but what is the use? You bots are drowning in your own stupidity and Im not gonna stoop to your ignorant level. Im an owner of both systems, and yet the only thing that I see separates the two is cross game chat, and voice messaging. Which is what Sony is gonna be doing here really soon but even better because its all free.

So besides all that, I would love to hear why exactly you guys think the 360 is so much better? I mean, you guys always said its about the games. Yet the only game I see worth bragging about on your system is Fable 2. One freaking game that separates itself from the rest of your mediocre catalog. I mean cmon,, Call of duty World at War is the only good shooter that is on your system this winter. Gears is nothing but an expensive cup coaster, but why would you guys need another one? You got your 3 years of cup coasters whenever you need them.

[random6789012345]

Not to mention halo which has been done over and over again the only good one was the orginal, and ps3 and xbox are sharing all the best games except kill zone 2 LBP and fable, fallout 3? Far Cry2 saints row 2 which was an xbox exclusive so its deffinetly even out now between the two

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

only thing is, MS did this years after their system dropped... not within months like the opposing company! what looks worse?

[DA_SHREDDER]

Every bot knows what comes in the box of a ps3. I just think that either their mommies wont buy them one, or they really just like playing Gaylo over and over again. I understand that both systems have some really good multiplats coming to them, but to sit here and talk about the ps3 like its still 2007 is just plain ignorant.`

If your a true gamer, then you could see the potential of Sony's gaming division as clear as day. I dont know what Peter Moore's problem with Killzone 2 is? But who cares what he thinks? He needs to shut his mouth, stop talking about other peoples games, and stop putting out the crap that his company has been putting out for 2 years straight now. NBA Live 08 , Madden 08-09', Army of 2, and Mercs 2 could have been so much better. The online of all the games listed about was mediocre at best. I would even say that it was garbage. He has no right to talk about anything else until he straightens up and start making games that are playable and not broken. Every game above was broken, and for that I will never, EVER purchase another EA game again.

To you bots, I really wish that you would state your legitimate reasons why the ps3 is sooooo crappy. I mean, all I hear is about your favorite systems selling, but what about the games? Again, that used to be your favorite moto last year, but I don't hear you singing that tune anymore. Its like you guys dont even care about games anymore. Sony's lineup is full till 2010. What about your precious? The last good game you guys have is Gears,, and thats going by your opinions. How bout after Gears, where is the next big thing on your console? Im waiting,, (hears crikets chirping in the background)

What are you gonna do, play multiplats for the rest of your lives? Sure, COD5 is probably my most anticipated game this year, but the ps3 has all of the best games that are on the 360 but more. You guys need to get your heads checked. I know I would be going crazy if I didnt have my ps3, and if I didnt have one, best believe I would be buying one asap. Dude, their are so many ps3 exclusives coming out that I would have to sit down with a pen and paper because there are literally more ps3 exclusives coming from now till next year that I would need about 4 more limbs. Get real bots. Play beyond.

Edit: Is that all you can say Guitarded? More like Retarded. Dude shouldn't you be playing Viva Pinata little boy?

[Guitarded]

As do PoS3 fanboys. Carry on. It's ok random, english is a tough language to use and I know that to be a PS fanboy you have to be ignorant so you got two strikes against you to start off. Go slow and think before you type. What am I saying, PS fanboys can't think for themselves!

[random6789012345]

All Xbox 360 fans wanna suck bill gates cox and they wanna suck ps3 fans d!ck stay the fack away

[Guitarded]

that you can't get on 360. BS3 isn't worth $100 for gaming. Is there bluray porn available yet? That MIGHT make it worth $100. High def nipples for the win!

[SpartanZero]

RIP PS3

[GOTY 2007]

hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahh ahahaha

PS3 IS A HORRIBLE CONSOLE

[silverchode]

same person talking to themselves?

[ThatCanadianGuy]

It's sad isn't it.

More like R.I.P N4G.

[gambare]

Jijoro-GOTY 2007

same person

[Guitarded]

YES!

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Hell yeah! Comments are blowin up once again for HHG. I am downloading the show now and will comment again after I listen.

Keep up the good work HHG, Tordavis and Bitbag!

[jacobie74]

rest .....in...........piss....... ps3

[jacobie74]

thats real where is the blue ray porn pc dont even have games that are blue ray so why should i get a blue ray playstation sucks salty donky balls

[Jecht]

Who thinks that a mere price cut is going to make a big difference in the face of overwhelming amounts of games is a n00b.

I don't know about any of you, but I'd rather pay full price for quality, then $200 for shyte. Especially when that comes with as many games the PS3 is getting.

[psiom]

I'm sorry, but if the 360 sales don't top the PS3's after a price cut then it could only be described as massive tragic failure on their part. You have to expect an obvious boost for a little while.

If the sales only stay level or comparable between the two, then this is only the 360 'hanging on'.

Don't forgot that Sony has pretty good demand currently for their 'high priced' PS3, and a price cut late this year would have a massive impact as well, if they even feel the need.

There's a lot of doom and gloom talk about PS3 in the last few days, but there's really no substance to it.

The only thing you can expect to happen in the foreseeable future is all three consoles staying fiercely competitive with no real 'winner' in any clear cut way.

I challenge any one of you to come up with any plausible explanation at all as to why any of the three consoles will disappear at any point in the foreseeable future.

It's all just gaming tabloid crack for fanboy junkies :)

[DA_SHREDDER]

Hey its all fun till you guys realize all you got to play is COD and Gears till next summer. Oh wait,, I forgot you guys have Bango and viva pinata. Even my 2 year old prefers my ps3 over my 360. I guess my 2 year old is smarter then all of you guys put together. Just look at your screen names,, Guitarded( retarded), jacobie( did your mother give you that name), Silver Chode( dude, you do know people use that word to make fun of people, idiot), and last but not least GOTY 2007( You obviously are still living in the past, Nobody cares about Gaylo anymore,,, COD4 owns that @ss). You guys are pathetic, and seriously you guys don't know what being a real gamer is all about.

p.s. There has been porn on blueray since last year, but of course you wouldn't know that cause you were probably using your dead hd-dvd player at the time, and didn't realize that it was a dead format in the making at the time.

[thekingofMA]

why? because you're trying to insult 360 fans. but who do you insult? silverchode, a ps3 fanboy

so you have 4 minutes to edit your comment but i'll keep mine to show what an idiot you are

EDIT: oh, and there's a huge Halo 3 update coming out this week. "no one cares about it" indeed...

[bigjclassic]

lulz what a poser.
LMAO

and he is delusional thinking that the 360 will destroy anything. Can the 360 fans just give up all ready, its getting sad.

[egm_hiphopgamer]

don't sleep on the 360 everybody knows that me personally i prefer the PS3 but 360 is hot and it's no slouch and people love value with PS3 i feel you get the best entertainment out of the box but 360 at the moment is still satisfying for any gamer and any consumer especially now in the mass market you feel me

[invoked]

This guy is a joke to the Nth degree. "The price cut for the ps3 is important because it's in high demand, it's a fact" If it was in demand why would it need a price cut in the first place? Say..contradiction? this guy is confusing himself and just says things to make himself sound as if he's informed. Stick to rap mah inarticulate brotha

[pixelsword]

a spot on a thread... talking about his show.

OWNED.

[OmegaRed]

Here is something to checkout X-360 owners are jumping ship selling their consoles on Craiglist w/ games and accessories and Pawn Shops all over even on the classifieds. I know it is hard to admit when you are wrong but it's okay keep telling yourself 360 is the best console it has all the game and the best online service ever. Just don't wait till it's to late. Play Beyond

[invoked]

you shouldn't quarrel with posters on this board. If you want to appear as if you're a gaming guru or someone on a higher standard than others then don't get defensive or perturbed by responding in an argumentative manner. It makes you appear weak.

[Radiodread]

No one has faith in the 360, but now look at it. #1. Maybe people ought to stop the RROD talk now. Maybe you should pull your heads outta your ass and take look at the sales charts.

[egm_hiphopgamer]

was up radio as far peter moore go either way he's with a major multiplatform company so im sure he still do special things with microsoft but truth be told xbox360 is a force to be reckon with at this point and they are not gonna just bow down to sony that easy so sony got to work harder but at the same time sony has psp, ps2, and ps3, and they are all successful and that says alot for a company and there stability to maintain 3 commercially successful pieces of hardware so in my opinion kudos to both microsoft and sony

[red5ive]

love it when he talks about the splicer from resistance 25:18... "IZ RETAHHDED" LOL!!

[darkdoom3000]

It could. i guess. the price is very attractive, but the christmas game catelouge is kinda dry last year 360 had a pretty good lineup, killed the PS3, but this year Ps3 seems to be on top.

[biggsftw]

Here we go again, listening to retarded hip hop idiots on matters of intellect. This is about as bad as that diddy video sent to McCain lol.

[invoked]

"0.1 - He has a show, what do you have?"

he has a show and puts himself out there, he has people that watch and listen yet he argues with posters and gets offended on this forum because they disagree with him. It makes him no different or better than anyone when he does this even though he has his "own show." Stick to your convictions and leave it at that. Don't go down to a lower level and make yourself appear weak. He's owning and exposing himself when he does this. Now that's truth.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Not true.

PS3 will destroy this holiday season.

Wipeout HD, SOCOM: Confrontation, and Resistance 2 will ensure Europe for Sony...by a LONG shot!

Sony will come in second in Asia, behind Nintendo, but a close second. They have Little Big Planet.

North America - Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, Bioshock, SOCOM: Confrontation, Wipeout HD, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift, and trailers at TGS for upcoming games, including a possible Kingdom Hearts 3 trailer...will push it.

[JCITY]

well my opinion...why yall acting like the 360 isnt cheaper in than the ps3 in japan and europe?? i really dont think the 360 is going to sell much better than the ps3...i mean it doesn't come with a hardrive...hum much is a hard drive? i'm guessing not cheap...it's cheaper than the wii in the other territories and the sales were still stagnant...and c'mon...the whole gears vs resistance thing...honestly i dont wanna be bias at all but im pretty sure r2 will be the better game..if u look at the past isonomic games..i think they will easily top gears 2...if it's just like the first one...that is simply not going to fly this time around! if call of duty 5 has the same effect as call of duty 4 i aspect that to trump gears all the way..jus like it did halo...R2 has a lot more to offer and the multiplier is crazy...and yes i've played it..that alone it's a must buy for me...there is a lot more competition around compared to when gears 1 came out..right or wrong...??? 5 on 5 gameplay...???cmon!...i think gears 2 will be good but i do not think it will have the same effect...lbp is coming also...socom...motorstorm and not to mention the whole blu ray thing...for real gamers the 360 is not a steal it's jus a system without a hardrive in my eyes...dats just my two cents feel free to disagree...i gave my reasonsing do what u want with it

[beans]

Get over the Hard drive argument already. The games still look the same with or without one and you can still play online with the memory card you get out of the box. Sure you can't download to much content except for arcade games but it's a good entry price for someone just getting into it. Also quit the games list crap already because your games don't appeal to everybody. I hope the best for MS and Sony this holiday and think that only a fool would deny the 360's impact this generation. Good show by the way and it's amazing how much HHG has changed his view on 360 after actually playing them both.

[nice_cuppa]

fanboy twats !

360 ftw !
wii ftw !
ps3 for the bin !

[robotnik]

the only thing I know is that I will be playing Bioshock on my Ps3 this winter.

[Voiceofreason]

LMAO what a joke.... See stupidity like this is why this clown should not be posted on N4G. Xbox will come in second behind the Wii. Why would it be any different this year then the last two? 360 already was lower than Wii in many areas but that didnt stop the Wii from outselling the 360. I just wonder where he got the idea that 360 would lead when there is proof in this thing called reality which he doesnt live in, that prove its not going to happen. Oh well you kids can waste your time on some clueless idiot.It's just sad this site will post the thoughts of someone so clueless simply because they paid 40.00 for a webcam, and then they wonder why the majority of gamers dont take this site seriously. Flame me, take all my bubbles doesnt matter. Doesnt change the truth.

[beans]

And just how do you know that the Wii will come out on top? Have you been to the future because if not I think you should shut the he11 up! He see's a possible change this holiday just like many of us and has every right to post his opinion. You definitely get a disagree from me for being an ignorant arrogant a-hole and stating your opinion as fact when none of us no the impact this discount will have.

[Mr_Bun]

It will be due to the price and not the games!!!

[beans]

Ok dude whatever you say. If that makes you feel better then price is the only reason I guess because 360 has no big games.../sarcasm

[TheMART]

I don't like this gangster gamenews so much, but at least they're direct to the point where it is all about.

One thing that he missed on the PS2 though, where I think the system pretty muched failed is the game attach rate.

One can sell 130 mln. units or so, but if for every console is just a few games sold, it pretty much sucks. The console is there to sell software and it seems PS2 owners just don't spend.

For example the great game he mentions, God of War II. What did it sell? 2 mln. copies? That stinks for a game that good with 130 mln. systems out there. Gears of War sold something like 6 mln. copies with only a userbase of 10 to 12 mln. at that time.

[0LDSCH00L]

I posted this for all the ignorant ppl here ta see.. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/h... XBOX Live has a web page solely dedicated ta family & games.

[Mr Patriot]

360 fans were calling it being biased LOL :)

[beans]

Yes this is the same guy but in the beginning he came across as biased and there's no denying that. I'm sure after actually spending time with the 360 he has come to realize that it is really a good machine just like PS3.

[0LDSCH00L]

Your opinions in the Uber fanturd section are worthless just like u!

[NanoGeekTech]

A good value...the 360 may do good in the States because of price cuts, but take a few things into consideration:

HD displays will drop again in price this holiday season, next year feb 2009 we switch to digital TV signals because of this the Sony PS3 will be perceived as a great value as a game system/ HD media Player.

Because there is price cut please do not under estimate the general public....The Nintendo Wii is still an attractive option, Young adults males or families with a little extra cash will help Sony sales....only time will tell......I hope MS does well with the price cuts because if they do not we may see the Xbox720 earlier than we think.....

[Hercules]

i see a lot of female avatars..*coughs*

on-topic: everyone on this site has either a ps3/360/wii, correct? so what if one is on top...it will not matter because neither console will FAIL...check my avatar to see which console i have...but seriously folks, we all know neither will fail, they are all good/bad in their own way...if you disagree with that, then you my friend is an freaking idiot

p.s. thats a freaking-long-as title

[xbox-bot]

...and your girlfriend has mad Street Fighter skills!