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Xbox360 in the #1spot this holiday season and beyond While Peter Moore gets smashed on the HipHopGamerShow 9/21/08

* 360 destroying the competition
* Naruto: Rise To Ninja Review
* Peter Moore Gets Smashed
* Life With Playstation Finally Arrives but was it worth the wait?
* Will Nintendo wii end up in last place this holiday season?
* Much Much More Enjoy The Show

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Jamie Foxx5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

but hiphopgamer is certainly just a gamers gamer and tells it as he sees it so kudos,360 is going for the jugular this holiday season,we as the consumer are certainly reaping the awards from this price cut (cheap way to play gears) and because sony must now lower their price microsoft have forced this upon sony,to all the fanboys this is why competition is good

Genesis55687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

3 years into it's life and $199 for a next gen console with no dedicated hard drive and a last gen disc format.(The Wii seems to appeal to alot of non traditional gamers,360 does not) I just can't see the 360 selling Wii like numbers at this stage.

I figure the 360 for 5 million maybe 10 million(life time) bigger install base than the original Xbox. I will have to wait for the numbers obviously. But if the 360 crushes the competition the holiday season I will say I was wrong and everyone that disagrees with me was right.

But I don't think that is going to happen.

tordavis5687d ago

"3 years into it's life and $199 for a next gen console with no dedicated hard drive and a last gen disc format. I just can't see this thing selling Wii like numbers at this stage."

I TOTALLY AGREE! At least you get a hard drive, HDMI/Component and DVD playback with the Wii. And it's cheaper!

InMyOpinion5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

Some would say he's not just biased, but 'PS3-curious'.

Yo yo tordavis! Have you considered renaming the bitbag to the flamebag, since everything you produce are flame articles with no substance?

theKiller5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

if $350 didnt do anything for 360 in this year what will $300 do??

about the arcade well... people buy the wii not only because its cheaper but mostly about its motion sensing controller, i dont know why people want to forget about that fact!!

the arcade will not steal a single casual customer from wii!!
and the premium and elite maybe they have a little bit better chance on competing with ps3!

dont forget ps3 have blue ray, free online,wifi, HOME, and multiple AAA mega hits this fall and finally big blue ray movies like the dark night etc all that for just 100 bugs extra!!

Jamie Foxx5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

because yes we as gamers know the ps3 has alot of advantages technology wise over the 360 but IGNORANCE IS BLISS how else can a console using ps2 technology in dvd9 and have a33% hardware failure rate not be dead and buried.....,theres comments further down from steve saying he may pick up another 360 as back up? rrod seems acceptable now(crazy huh),rrod & ps3s advantages are not highlighted enough to the masses & parents are looking for a cheap way to enter the 'next-gen'

callahan095687d ago

I like the hiphopgamer, I think he's generally pretty well informed and comes to logical assumptions about things...

That said, and I should also say I haven't yet listened to this episode, I just read the synopsis right here... but all that said, I really don't know why he would think Wii would come in last place this holiday. It will probably come in first place again. Remember, the holiday season is when parents buy stuff for children. That means Wii, as far as I'd venture to guess. Sure, there are teenagers who will get 360's and PS3's, and adults who will ask their girlfriends or wives for a 360 or PS3... but I think that the Wii will continue to be a complete absence from store shelves this holiday, selling through all stock and being the biggest seller yet again.

Also, what is it with these people lately saying 360 is destroying the competition? Last I checked, it has been outsold by the PS3 on a worldwide level every single month this year, and it's been outsold by the PS3 in the USA for the majority of months this year. It only had a small resurgence last month when it sold barely 10,000 units more than the PS3 did in America, and when you're talking hundreds of thousands of units, that is a very small margin of victory. When compared to the Wii, the two systems are in a virtual tie. So I don't see how anyone can claim the 360 is dominating, when it isn't even dominating the PS3 much less the fact that it's still taking a gigantic beating by the Wii.

leila015687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

With €400 you can get an Elite [€250], with a headset, HDMI cable, 120gb HD, Fable/Gears [€60], Gold membership account [€30] and you'll still have €60 remaining.
The PS3 [€400] + a game [€60] + headset [€?)

The PS3 is just too damn expensive. I wonder how this thing keeps selling.

CrazzyMan5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

leila01, I agree, PS3 is kinda expensive here in Europe, compared to x360.
BUT..
Price - High Quality console + blu-ray player = media center -> a Family Thing. :)
And 250 for elite? SO far it was 300 and 240 for 60Gb model.

Anyway, there are some positive points about PS3:
1) reliable
2) quiet
3) free online, home
4) build in wi-fi
5) without pain rechargeable controllers
6) blu-ray movies
7) freely changeable hdd
8) disc scratching free system
9) habitual controller for ps2 crowd

Immaculate5686d ago

Depends on how you define high quality game console. The 360 is the highest quality gaming experience period. The most high quality titles+largest game library+best online service= highest quality gaming experience

The price, the amount of media, and award winning controller design are just a bonus.

CrazzyMan5686d ago (Edited 5686d ago )

"The 360 is the highest quality gaming experience period. The most high quality titles+largest game library+best online service= highest quality gaming experience " - That`s WHY x360 was OUSTOLD by PS3 for almost whole year in all regions?

That make sense.)) Or maybe just consumers DON`T agree with your personal opinion since they are buying more PS3s, then x360s. It`s all about games, isn`t it? :)
It`s a consumer, who DECIDES.

Immaculate5686d ago (Edited 5686d ago )

Crazzyman, you had better enjoy those short lived sales comments while you still can.

SCThor, what's it like sitting in a PC chair playing games on a $800-$1500 dollar PC, knowing that you could have been laying on a couch or bed playing the exact same games for $200? You're kind of weird.

SCThor5686d ago (Edited 5686d ago )

My ($500,P4 2.4GHZ,2GB RAM,GEFORCE 8600GT)cpu is hooked to my entertainment room's LCD 42", I'm using a Xbox360 controller that connects to the cpu using a wireless receiver and I'm laying on my couch as I write...

(anyone...feel free to type owned,pwned,toasty or whatever you like below this post) :)

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DavidMacDougall5687d ago

Probably but how many out of the thousands sold will work? That is the big question

Shadow Man5687d ago

RROD AND DVD9 Ps3s life support.

DavidMacDougall5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

"Shadow Man keeps dipping his toe in the fanboy pool but it never works out for him so he keeps switching sides like his own sexuality" - DMD

I cant tell about you anymore are you a bot or a droid ?

@AlterEgo -Nice list bubbles for u

AlterEgo5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

You mean along with:

Killzone 2
Resistance 2
God of War 3
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
SOCOM: Confrontation
LittleBigPlanet
White Knight Chronicles
Disgaea 3
inFAMOUS
The Agency
Free Online Multiplayer
Home
Blu-ray
everything multi-platform
and everything else in 2009 that's as of yet unannounced?

Sir_Ken_Kutaragi5687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

* The xBox 360 is CR*P

End of SirKenKutaragiShow 9/21/08
Tune in Next week!!! ;-D

marionz5687d ago

actually most will work, i have a new console and the new hardware is much quieter and cooler then my launch pro console, RRoD is pretty much a thing of the past to most 360 owners so its time to just move on.

i actually hope my launch pro console dies before the warranty is up so i can get the new components put in, but yes the new consoles are a huge improvement in both noise and heat, new one doesnt get any warmer then the ps3.

KiddyBrownTurd5686d ago

ROFLMAO

out of all those games, only God of War 3 has the potential to be AAA. and that's if it doesn't suck now that Jaffe AND Balrog are off the team.

poooooooooooor droids

chewy3175686d ago

yea since when can the 360 fight with the ps3 when its still barely winning the ps2.

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NewSchoolGamer5687d ago

needs to pray that the xbox360 outsells the PS3 every single month as of the date the price cut is in effect.

If not, Sony can go for the kill.

KingDizzi5687d ago

No praying will help MS, the only area where the price cut can have a continuous effect on consoles ales is NA. In Japan and the EU I can see the increase in sales due to a price drop for a month max but thats it.

If anything I guarantee that the PS3 will outsell the 360 in EU and Japan for the rest of the year, you should see the huge FIFA 09 PS3 advert and also WKC releasing in December 25th.

egm_hiphopgamer5687d ago

if for some reason 360 can't extend the lead over ps3 at a 199 price tag then MS may be in trouble as far as the console wars go because ps3 will eventually become a 199 price and that will be a big blow to MS but i doubt you'll see a 199 price tag on PS3 in 2009 so MS still has tons of breathing room even leading up to there next system

leila015687d ago (Edited 5687d ago )

As far as they keep making games for my 360 I'm fine. It doesn't really matters to me if it outsells the PS3 or not.

Glad to see you've dropped you fanboy status HipHop, you're now becoming a real gaming journalist. I'm looking forward to your next show.

The Dark Knight5687d ago

who cares if xbox 360 we be number 1 this season, why do we need to worry? we got Ps3's lol i dont see how being number 1 is so bad when is pretty much has nothing to do with us. I have Both consoles, but for people who dont, you dont need to get angry cause its just business

If anything Good on Microsft

uxo225687d ago

Nice show! Very Entertaining.

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KingDizzi5687d ago

Everyone calls this guy bias but he he just truthful, fanboys can bash him all they want but he makes educated suggestions. Of course the 360 will destroy PS3 sales IN NA, I just hope anyone with any sort of intelligence can accept that.

thewhoopimen5687d ago

Not that I disagree with the 360 price drop and software lineup as a very strong buy incentive, but what will the 360 have this holiday season that will appeal to the mass consumer? I think gow2 and fable 2 are great games but... they are niche. I still think the wii will squeak past the 360 this holiday season.

egm_hiphopgamer5687d ago

I understand your theory but people stand in line for gears of war, what nintendo has that people will line up for besides smash bros which is already out you see what i mean the hype alone is gonna make it a mass market appeal, keep in mind sometimes people buy stuff just to say they have it and gears is a game like that because of it's popularity

The Lazy One5687d ago

will work in favor of the 360.

By far the strongest lineup this year is in the 3rd party non-exclusive games. When people go to the store and see these amazing games (Rage, PoP, End War, lotsa EA sports games, etc.), which play the same on a $199 console as a $399 console, it's hard to argue with.

Then it still has a strong exclusive lineup, and a lot of new features in the update for the casual gamer (XNA community games, growing XBLA library, Xbox Primetime, Avatars, etc.).

To say it still won't appeal at this price point with the features coming is ignorance.

Summary: 360 is getting plenty of casual and hardcore content, and 3rd party multi platform titles work in favor of the cheapest system.

thewhoopimen5687d ago

good point Hiphop but I still think you and a lot of analysts miss the key word "casual gamer" or lets make it even more mainstream term, "casual consumer." The MASS casual consumer has NO IDEA what is new or not in terms of game release dates, platform exclusive, etc. They look at what everyone else has, whats fun for family, and what people talk about. Sure Gears is going to be a big topic, but moms and dads are definitely going to shy away from this controversial title. No one knows about fable. Besides Gears, there is nothing family friendly per se except viva pinata and part 2.

Wii has the numbers, Wii has the cool controller, Wii has more family friendly games. Wii games will be cheaper b/c of the older age of the titles. Wii is similarly priced, will will win like "tickle me elmos" win.

edhe5687d ago

The cheap-as 360 doesn't just play exclusive games you know. Any multiplatform system seller will sell on the 360, due to the price differential.

I'd imagine force unleashed bundles on the 360 arcade would've sold more than on the ps3.

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70 percent of devs unsure of live-service games sustainability

With so many games fighting for players' attention and interest losing out over time, time sink games are at risk of eventually losing steam.

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thorstein7h ago

It was worrisome to begin with.

It's a niche genre with only a handful of hits that can stand the test of time.

CrimsonWing696h ago

What’s to be unsure of!? Look at the ratio of success to failure!

shinoff21834h ago

Yes. Stop all the live service bs.

jznrpg4h ago

Only a few will catch on. You need a perfect storm to be successful in GaaS and a bit of luck on top of that. But a potential cash cow will keep them trying and some will go out of business because of it.

MIDGETonSTILTS174h ago

Helldivers 2 manages just fine…

Keep production costs low… don’t just make custscenes until the mechanics and enemies are perfected first.

Make so much content that you can drip extra content for years, and the game already feels complete without them.

Most importantly: make weapons, enemies, levels, and mechanics that will stand the test of 1000 hours. This might require more devs embracing procedurally generated leveled, which I think separates Helldivers 2 from Destiny’s repetitiveness.

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The Battle Pass Is The Worst Thing To Happen To Modern Gaming

Nameer from eXputer: "Some exceptions aside, I don't think the battle pass is a net positive for gaming with how they're implemented in most live service titles."

got_dam8h ago

Battle passes AND meta gaming both.

DivineHand1256h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I like the way Helldivers 2 does battle passes. It allows you to make purchases on each level of the battle pass and gives you the option of choosing which item to unlock first. The more purchases you make using medals the further you progress. There is no timer and you can earn medals towards purchasing stuff via personal orders and Major orders.

I haven't played much live service games that have battle passes but I remember some games that have battle passes where you progress through it linearly using an exp system. What makes it really bad is that the battle pass will have like 50 or more levels with the cooler stuff being closer to the end. They also have an in-game shop that sells exp boosters so you can reach the end of the pass before it refreshes. Everyone ilse will have to grind their way through.

lucian2296h ago

battle pass in fortnite is perfect; buy one and it buys the rest for every other season as it gives you more money than the first cost. so 8.50 and season ends with you getting 13.00, it pays for the next and you have some pocket change to save up for cash shop. All of which is optional

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy851d 2h ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted1d 2h ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere1d 1h ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook722h ago(Edited 22h ago)

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy8521h ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga21h ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher7h ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble2h ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike21h ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv7211h ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

crazyCoconuts4h ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire9h ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer19921d 1h ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga7h ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk16h ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 72111h ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty4h ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds15h ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx1215h ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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