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AusGamers: Metal Gear Solid 4 Review

Like Snake's old cardboard box, much of the game is only here for fan-service - novelty and nostalgia purposes; it really goes above and beyond in that respect. However, if the game's humour and drama is not your style and you don't have the history for the nostalgia, then some pretty polygons, a long-winded story and a bit of generic stealth-action might be all MGS4 has left for you.

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360degrees5765d ago (Edited 5765d ago )

If we can all stop buying into the HYPE for one whole second and be true gamers...I think we can agree that 8.9 is a fairly accurate scoring for this game...for every game has its faults here and there

Asurastrike5765d ago (Edited 5765d ago )

Perhaps someone without "360" in their name, and without a 360 avatar should be giving us this lecture.

Close_Second5765d ago

Ok, so now you're happy because you have found a review that better reflects your opinion of the game. Just how long did it take you to get through it and how did you drag yourself away from your 360 long enough to play it?

MGS4 was the first MGS game that I played and I must admit I had a blast. I'm not a hardcore MGS fan so there was no replay value for me although I could see why many might go through it a second time. As for visuals, its a beautiful game and the story is deeper than most for a game thats into its third sequel.

I would be interested to hear your views on the strengths and weaknesses of the game rather than just bagging its low points, or what you consider to be its lowpoints.

360degrees5765d ago

so in your opinion how long is TOO LONG for a cut-scene in a video game until it becomes a movie clip???

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Close_Second5765d ago (Edited 5765d ago )

I really don't care how long a cut scene is as long as:

a. It holds your interest and actually adds to the story and character development.

b. You can skip it if you desire.

To suggest some sort of rule along the lines that "if cutscene > 5 mins then game = rubbish" is just a ridiculous argument to try and make. Sure the cut scenes in MGS were longer than you generally find in a game however, the MGS franchise has never been about short, shallow cut scenes and spades of equally shallow gameplay. Even I knew this before buying into MGS4 which as I said in another post, is the first MGS I have ever owned.

To be honest, the cutscenes in MGS4 made me regret not first having played through the first three MGS games as I know I would have felt more emotionally attached to the drama that unfolded.

Pedobear5765d ago

A 360 gamer really should accuse a game of being hyped when their best games live on hype.

ikkokucrisis5765d ago

Metal Gear Online is a great game in its own right. There's a deep combat system, healthy supply of game modes and server settings, and a decent supply of maps. And best of all, content is constantly being added to it by Konami.

You can't go wrong buying MGS4, it comes with the full package, whether you like single player or multiplayer games, you won't be dissappointed. This game easily scores higher than a 9 for value, game polish, and dev support.

dro5765d ago

on topic mgs4 has alerday been proved that it deserve a 10, the only thing i can say bad about it is that some cutscence are to long and boring, if u can show me another game that has graphics as good as or better than mgs4 apart from uncharnted i will give u all my belongings..i live in north london at wood green (-_-)

SL1M DADDY5764d ago

I am a true gamer and MGS4 in my honest opinion is the ONLY game this year or this gen for that matter that truly deserves the high scores it gets. Anything under a 9 is just some review trying to grasp for hits. MGS4 is truly the first masterpiece this gen.

Dareaver15764d ago

@ Dro, so because he said something you disagree with, he should be in the openzone. He was on topic and shared his opinion. Just because you disagree with it, doesn't make it openzone worthy.

There was no fanboy type statements in his comment.

But i to agree, Metal Gear as far as evolution goes (outside of graphics) didn't progress far, and hardly brings something new to the genre. At least in my opinion. I believe that there have been several games that do not deserve the scores they have been getting; for example, GTA 4 and Halo 3 did not deserve perfect 10's, but were awesome games. I think those to at least deserve high 9's, but when i look past Metal Gears shiny new graphics, i still see a tired and less innovative control scheme, slow and unrealistic weapon select options, and etc.

But then again those are my opinions of the game. But don't say someone should go to the OpenZone, without just cause. He shared his opinion in a respectable manner.

Michael Jackson5764d ago

is that celsius or fahrenheit..?

Tmac5764d ago

I love how jealous you Xbox fanatics are of MGS4, keep amusing the rest of us.

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jay25765d ago

Do we really need another review of MGS 4 3 weeks after it launched?
I'm getting bored of all the reviews of games for ages after them come out.(Not including User Reviews because of cause they can't play the game before it's out in shops.)

Close_Second5765d ago

...as the game is several weeks old. I though N4G was going to group reviews for a game under a single heading so only those who are interested need enter.

Amp5764d ago (Edited 5764d ago )

Nuff said edit: Sorry Blood, didnt see your next review from a site Ive never heard from give it a good score. Just stop, if you want , Ill Look up the Terre haute, Indiana gazette weekender score for the game.Give it a rest

Veryangryxbot5765d ago (Edited 5765d ago )

Nuff said.

I dont need other people to convince me how good and epic this game is. This game shiats on every other competitor out there right now and is in a class of its own.

Every technical aspect of this game is awe inspiring. From the water efects in S america to the snowstorm effects in shadow moses to the superb cutscene to gameplay transition to the movie style cutscenes, the stealth element, the action element, the incredibly deep storyline, the superb details and extremely sharp graphics. This game is unmatched.

Anything lower than a 9.5 is in denial. Period. A game this epic with such technical supremacy with a mere 9.5 means you are seriously stupid and obviously have no clue about gaming and developing.

Thats the same as saying that a Ferrari is worth less than a bicycle. Whoever in their right mind would utter such stupid crap anyway.
Whoever gave MGS4 lower than a 9 need to seriously rethink their career options because they are not good at gaming.

It will takes years for other developers to catch up to MGS4 (aka STEAL some of MGS4s formulas) because the earliest game borrowing concepts, have only been started just a week ago at the earliest. For every other game already in development when MGS4 came out, its too late to change now and borrow MGS4 concepts.

Seriously EVERY MGS game is a pinnacle of achievement and is a showcase of the PS brands power. Every one of them. And MGS4 was no exception. It did just that, demonstrate the power of the PS3. This game is not possible on anyother console. Dont let your fanboy fantasy run wild. If you are a developer, which you are not, you would already know that this game is technically impossible on the 360.

I feel sorry for the retards that thought MGS4 was not going to deliver. As if MGS4 was going to fail. As if.

Xbots: "Haha Kojima rated MGS4 with a 1 out of 10! game is fail!"
Xbots: "Haha Kojima dissatisfied with PS3. PS3 is a failure!"

Making true what most people know already: xbots are dense people and probably people who cant afford a PS3 (aka lower rankings of society) and therefore got a 360 instead.

poos35765d ago

hey noob http://www.metacritic.com/g... STOP LIEING TO YOUE SELF MGS4 IS AT 94% AND WHEN IT gets the amount of reviews halo 2 has gooten asit was released almost a yea rlater i would guess it would be on 92% halo 3 is still at 94% btw mgs4 is ok

juuken5764d ago

poos3...you are a moron.

Kindly remove head from ass please.

MGS4 should at least be around 9.8, considering it received a crapload of 100's, and 9's. While 8.9 is still a solid score, I'm also wondering why the reviewer couldn't have just given the game a 9.0.

XBox fanatics are just jealous that this game isn't on their system so they have to resort to bashing it to oblivion.

GOTY.

Go cry some more.

AngryHippo5765d ago

....way too personally....christ...serious ly i mean wtf? oh no a game got rated an 8.9 from one person out of how many reviews.....probably like 100, the rest are pretty much 10/10 so why does this bother you so much?. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion about a game, but to some of you opinions are only allowed when its the same one as yours.

Grown Folks Talk5765d ago

You are correct sir. What do you win? Most likely about 6-10 disagrees, which will only further serve your point. Be a boring @ss world if everybody had the exact same tastes.

AngryHippo5764d ago

'Be a boring @ss world if everybody had the exact same tastes.'

I could not agree more. Bubbles + for you

Grown Folks Talk5765d ago

Especially Snake Eater & Substance on the Xbox, but I don't see as of yet what all the raving is about. Maybe it's because I'm not a fan of the series & haven't got all of the nuances that make it so enthralling to others. I still can't stand having to sit through a conversation without being able to do anything else. Movie theaters could charge full admission for the opening scene, & the graphics, while very good, aren't as good as people make them out to be (& no, I'm not playing on a black & white tv. 1080I lcd). I'm only on the part just after you meet Drebin, working my way through downtown. So I know I have a limited perspective. Right now, it's a good game, not great. Perhaps that will change as I get further along. & for the usual skeptic who claims every non perfect appraisal is from an "xbot" who actually doesn't have a PS3, my id is SOONERReign. Bought the MGS4 bundle last week & Arkham is on my friends list.

Grown Folks Talk5764d ago

Only click disagree. If my phantom disagree came from a woman, then I guess you literally have none (maybe). Step up. Tell me why i'm wrong.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro40d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7240d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_40d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga40d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2340d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200040d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin40d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole40d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix40d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198940d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198940d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons350d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde350d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden350d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop350d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu350d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop350d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17350d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop350d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136350d ago (Edited 350d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984350d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster350d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989350d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon350d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA350d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon350d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA350d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon350d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden350d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt350d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989350d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90350d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden350d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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