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Symbiote Studios Review: Metal Gear Solid 4

Symbiote Studios - "I'm not going to hail MGS4 as the greatest game in history because it isn't, Metal Gear Solid 4 is best enjoyed with a in depth knowledge of the series, but you already knew that. Still that shouldn't put you off one of the most truly cinematic and great story driven games ever to grace this generation let alone videogames all together."

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yanikins1115780d ago

"I'm not going to hail MGS4 as the greatest game in history because it isn't"

Errr..... Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Except you.

BEEEEEEEER!!!!!

BTW, i realise how sad it is that im totally sloshed and on N4G posting in every thread, but everyone has gone home, and im pished off my nut. Its a good thing.

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Silogon5780d ago

Man somebody I only hope our youth grows up to be as cool as you. You need no smoke to make you look boss, cause you are the boss!

Agent VX5780d ago

Opppps, here we go again.... The "Dude" don't think MGS 4 is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the goofy fanboys start to crawl out of their parents basement and have a tantrum.

Get over it, MGS 4 isn't the best game ever, nor will ever be the best game ever. Gameplay to pretty tight, but short. The online is pretty good, depending on your tastes.

It really seems to me that only die hard fanboy MGS fans are praising this title, for the more mainstream, the gameplay is decent but short, and the story quite boring and annoying.

LJWooly5780d ago (Edited 5780d ago )

I'm drunk about half the time, but I can still type okay, which makes me awesome.

No, I'm not drunk right now, it's the middle of the day over here.

And Agent, what the hell are you talking about? You're making yourself sound like such an idiot, one (drunk) person just said "everyone's entitled to an opinion... except you". Is that really enough reason to cause a stupid little willy-waving fight? I think not.
If you hate the game so much as to keep causing fights for little reason on everything MGS4-related, please keep it to yourself, N4G would be a better place if fanboys ike you learnt to keep their damn mouths shut.

juuken5780d ago

Agent, I'm a semi-new fan to the series and even I think this game is quite possibly the best game ever made. I'm going to assume right now that you haven't played the game because if you did, you would speak with more common sense than that.

mistertwoturbo5780d ago

Agent VX, it's not like you can play the game anyway. And if you have half a brain to understand the story, it wouldn't be "boring." Stick to your mindless drone run and gun games then like Halo 3.

Agent VX5780d ago

mistertwoturbo - "Agent VX, it's not like you can play the game anyway. And if you have half a brain to understand the story, it wouldn't be "boring." Stick to your mindless drone run and gun games then like Halo 3."

No thanks, I rather play GTA 4, NHL 08 or COD 4 on the consoles. All multiplats thank you very much!

And I do prefer games such as Rome or Medieval II Total war, Civ 4 or Company of Hero's, hardly mindless drone run and gun games like Halo 3 or slow paced linear games like MGS 4. These are my favorite types of games, and games played best on the PC.

Sorry to burst your bubble, MGS 4 is a very good game for an linear stealth action game, but these games are very slow and fairly boring. The cutsceens in MGS 4 take away from the action, they just are way to long and incompass too much of the game. By far, the people who enjoy is game the greatest are the die hard fans. This isn't, nor will ever be a major mainstream title. (Not that I think that is bad.)

Not being a huge MGS fan, this title doesn't nothing to get me into the series that the other title didn't do already. As I mentioned before, I'm on act 4, and I am having a hard time getting back into it, I have already started a new campaign on Medieval II.

LJWooly5780d ago (Edited 5780d ago )

I'm getting the feeling people don't even know what the hell MGS4 is. First, we get tons of people crying "it's not stealth, it's a shooting game" in an effort to downplay the game, and then we get people calling it a "linear stealth action game". Make your minds up.
I ask you, apart from the Thief series, what stealth game is there less linear than Metal Gear Solid? Splinter Cell, the third best stealth action series out there, was far more linear than the MGS series.

Oh, and I also feel the need to point out a severely ironic point in your comment. You complained about MGS4's linearity, yet you love COD4, the outright most heavily-scripted game in the history of mankind. In the level "the Bog", you can stand next to your tank forever killing enemies, and the tank won't be destroyed, but the second you move away and run around the enemy in a fashion the game didn't want you to, the tank gets destroyed. If you play the game exactly how the developer wanted you to, you'll be fine, but I hate that. I want freedom, freedom to make my own choices and decisions in games, not follow a preset route in what is one of the most repetitive games I've played in a while. In my opinion, that is far worse than sitting through cutscenes or story narrations.

boodybandit5780d ago (Edited 5780d ago )

**This isn't, nor will ever be a major mainstream title.**

Could you please define what you consider to be a mainstream then since I am totally baffled that you feel MGS isn't. The MGS series has sold millions of copies and systems over the years. Now a game that sells millions and is a proven system seller AKA a AAA title is considered not to be a mainstream title?

Here I always thought the definition of mainstream was a game like MGS. By what I am assuming your definition of mainstream I guess only solitaire would qualify?

I purchased MGS4 and I despise slow action stealth games. The reason I picked it up is because of how HK changed the gameplay to appeal to players like me. If anything he made the game more mainstream in design if I am understanding your definition of mainstream even a little bit.

I have never played a game as well put together as MGS4. It has a feel to it unlike anything I have ever played before. IMHO not only does it define mainstream but it also defines a complete Epic experience. IMO this is the best title I have played this generation and I have played most of what gamers and reviewers consider to be the top titles of this generation.

Up until MGS4 my favorite "exclusive" games this gen were Uncharted and Bioshock (exclusive at the time I played it).

Obama5780d ago

Don't worry about agent. He is just pissed that the game scored higher than halo3 and that it won't be comming to his firebox.

-Maverick-5780d ago

Sorry but IGN and everyone else in the industry has already declared MGS4...one of the greatest games ever. One useless opinion really doesn't matter.

yanikins1115779d ago

Aww some one tell me what blade said. His posts always crack me up. Mods should leave him alone.

Agent..... LIGHTEN UP!

yanikins1115779d ago

"I'm on act 4, and I am having a hard time getting back into it"

Aww look at the little baby. Wheres your marmy? (name the tv show)

Dude you dont have to get sh***y because you cant figure out how to beat vamp. Just ask for help.

LJWooly5779d ago

Blade was telling you to go die (jokingly, of course). You can have a bubble yankins, you drunken fool :D

Fruit Loops5779d ago

You know you can skip the cutscenes, if you don't like the story.
OR if the story is too hard to understand for you :]

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meepmoopmeep5780d ago

"Still that shouldn't put you off one of the most truly cinematic and great story driven games ever to grace this generation let alone videogames all together."

looks like my nanomachines weren't working 100%... but that will do, no need to inject the author with FoxDie.

at least my propaganda machine is working 99% of the time :D

LJWooly5780d ago

You do indeed have a reliable propaganda machine, to say the least.

meepmoopmeep5780d ago

that's because it's powered by The Cell ;P

Rapture3335780d ago

If MGS4 isnt the greatest game in history then what is? If this same guy gave probably Halo 3 a 10/10

thewhoopimen5780d ago (Edited 5780d ago )

I think its interesting how so many "unknown" or "outside" publications are coming out to give this game a rating. MGS4 really is capturing the public's imagination and gamer lust.

And yes this game to me beat's the S*** out of any game i've played this console gen.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro41d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7241d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_41d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga41d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2341d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200041d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin41d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole41d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix41d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198941d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198941d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons352d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde352d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden352d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop352d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu351d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop352d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17352d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop351d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984351d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster351d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989352d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon352d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA352d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon352d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA352d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon352d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden352d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt351d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989351d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90352d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden352d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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