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Gamedaily: Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Review - 8/10

Gamedaily writes: "Snake's swan song is a beautiful and intense tour de force, marred only by preachy dialogue and decent shooting.

Tactical Espionage Action arrives on PlayStation 3, courtesy of Konami's long-awaited Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, which brings an end to one of video game's most memorable characters, mercenary Solid Snake, who is a gray haired old man. An army of gorgeous cut scenes and a beautiful score highlight this memorable third person adventure, which ties up loose ends while weaving new characters and plot twists into the Metal Gear mythos. It's a long-winded tour of duty that, despite its somewhat bland gameplay, offers an unrivaled cinematic experience.

Snake's adventure begins in the war-torn Middle East, where he slithers through battles in search of his evil twin, the nefarious Liquid, who inhabits the body of MGS villain Revolver Ocelot. In order to kill him, Snake must sneak past or engage hundreds of foot soldiers, as well as vanquish expertly designed boss characters, including Vamp (from Metal Gear Solid 2) and the twisted Beauty and the Beast Corps, four terrifying ladies with signature abilities. He gets help from his friend and techo genius, Otacon, who provides Snake with advice and equipment, most notably the delightful OctoCamo, which changes color in real time and blends into the environment. Along the way, he runs into old friends, makes new ones and uncovers more plot twists than a daytime soap."

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Mc1875788d ago (Edited 5788d ago )

If you don't like the game to begin with don't review it.
@ fork, pathetic failure the game is great I actually am playing and I don't play crap games except for a few drunken nights with Gears
your just pissed you weren't here in time to troll properly looks like you fail again (god 12 year olds are hilarious)

fork_the_lad5788d ago

I feel sorry for you guys

cuz websites and maguzunes like Gamestm and gamedaily love xbox. i like gamstm lot. I liek magazine

they have very little coverage of PS3 though

theKiller5788d ago

they should play more shooter games i think!! in fact they should only review shooting games!

BulletToothtony5788d ago

i guess they didn't get the memo that mgs4 is not a shooter, it's a tactical game..

Everything that this guy said he didn't like.. it's what makes the mgs series so great.. and everything he didn't like it's what i absolutely love.. and every mgs fan as well...

It's extremely obvious that he had never played an mgs game before, but that's ok.. not everyone likes this style of game.. too bad they made him review the game and not someone who knew what tha hell is going on...

i think some reviewers were just in a rush to finish it so they can write the review and they simply don't enjoy the game.. i'm loving every minute of it and i already have 9 hours of gameplay.. don't have 1 complain so far..

Bladestar5788d ago

"If you don't like the game to begin with don't review it. " ehhh... come again!? If you like the game how can you give a fair review? If I like iron man the game does that mean it deserves a 10/10?

no... but seriously I know what you are saying... Metal Gear is metal gear... and on my book before Kojima started the whole console bashing it would be a 10/10... but if I would to review the game I would still give it a 9.5/10... the game itself deserves it.

But I still stick to what I said before... Metal Gear is not for everyone... for people that are not into cut-scenes and the type of gameplay that metal gear offers which is specific to metal gear fans this game is not good... which explain why the game never had a demographic like other games like GTA...

Sadly... Metal Gear will be reviewed for the masses since there is no such thing as Metal Gear fan review only...

I'll say, for Metal Gear fans this game gets a 10/10.
For non-metal gear fans a 7/10.
for people like me that are still angry at Kojima for being such a blu-ray leg humper and xbox 360 hater... a 9/10.

kingme715788d ago

BladeStar,
Which parts of the game did you like/not like and what act are you up to?

BulletToothtony5788d ago

hey dude did you end up buying a ps3? you said a few days ago you were thinking about it?? seems like you tried mgs4...

and i don't consider myself an mgs hardcore fan.. i actually picked up mgs2 about 8 months ago and i loved the game.. it's just a well made game...

and like you said, a 9.5 it's a pretty good score.. a well deserved score.. i think it's a 10 to an mgs fans, but to the general public.. i think a 9.3 - 9.5 it describes a good score for the game..

I'm not a fanboy, and i was expecting an awesome game.. i was pretty sure i was gonna be let down, and to my surprise my expectations were highly overpassed..

all the items, the weapon customization it just adds to the way you get immersed in the game.. and even if you don't like the style of gameplay people should still realize that the game is very well made, it has way more things than other games do.

they should at least have that into consideration, but when they go and give Grid a 9 and mgs4 an 8 that's also not right, (not saying that grid is a bad game) but come on, they have to realize that mgs4 it's a more complete game..

iHEARTboobs5788d ago

Yeah i agree if you don't like these types of games or any other MGS games you shouldn't review it. That goes for all games. If you're not into the genre, you shouldn't be reviewing games from it. MGS isn't going to be for everyone. If you're not willing to put in the time, it's not for you.

XBOX 3605788d ago

Hey look, Bladestar has a problem with Kojima like the PS3 over the 360, but has no problem with Itagaki hating the PS3.

Yet he claims to be a "Gamer" and "unbiased"

Hidden Fanboyism ftw.

Bladestar5788d ago (Edited 5788d ago )

I didn't buy it... and not going to... I still want those NPD numbers to reflect my opinion about what Kojima did... I know I'm just one.. but not the only one.. but it does add up you know... Who knows maybe I will wait and buy a used one... ;) or borrow it from a friend.

Question for you... how does it feel that the most anticipated game on the PS3 is getting a 8's.. and to make things worst... that's not a mass market as you thought it was?

@XBOX 360 - says, the one with a RROD picture... mmm.. .anyways.. Itakari did not add PS3 bashing to his game.. he just had an opinion.. he does not have an agenda to bash other consoles... Kojima on the other hand added to this game which does not contribute to the game. How many times did kojima proved that he favores the PS3? did I have a problem with it? No.. but when a developer dirty their work with non-game related opinions... then their game becomes their opinion... so if I don't agree with their game/opinion then I just don't accept it/ buy it... simple as that... I would say the same if NG2 would say, "Did you know Sony sucks... loading please wait...".

BulletToothtony5788d ago

well to be perfectly honest, if what they were saying was true, and i found the cutscenes to be painful... and the gameplay to be bad, and full of glitches and flaws i would be pretty pissed,

like i said up there everything that those 8* reviewers didn't like i loved so to me i can care less.. about 90% of reviews have given them 95% or higher so that says a lot.. i mean even halo3 got some 7/10 but that didn't stop people from enjoying it..

The truth is that mgs4 it's a good game, it's very enjoyable and it's the best single player game i've every played, multiplayer still goes to cod4.. still play it a lot..

and about not reaching the masses well i don't care about that, i think it's gonna sell some ps3's and i don't care if i was the only person who bought the game.. i love it and that's what matter to me the most..

OmegaKulu5788d ago (Edited 5788d ago )

question, what does NPD numbers gota do with your personal opinion? If you actually want to play the games on there, NPD should mean nothing at all. NPD numbers are only for fanboys and investors.

So what MGS4 got a 8/10 scores? some people just dont like MGS, the install or the long videos.
At least it's better than a game being hyped so much that reviewers are obligated to give a game 10/10.(Halo3 was good but no way in hell it's better than COD4)

ShAkKa5788d ago

is not that they don`t like mgs,is that they hate the ps3 so all ps3 exclusives will get some bs reviews from that crappy website.

Ju5788d ago

unrelated, but some say, according to May NPD# PS3 outsold the 360. What now B* ?

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fork_the_lad5788d ago (Edited 5788d ago )

Gamedaily are own by same company that own this website

Future.us, future is an american comp and we amaerican love XBOX. no space for japanese consoles. Like the japanese say, american love shootign and killing and this game sucks cuz it has none of it

If 1 future website gives it an 8 than the rest give similiar score....

Future owns

Gamdedaily 8
Games Tm 8
Eurogamer 8
Edge 8
Gamedaily 9

I fel sorry for PS3 fans that thought it was the best game ever. I would give it a 6.5 being gernous . I love Gamestm becuase they love xbox.

LJWooly5788d ago

Haha, that was unintentionally funny to read.

JackBauerIsHIGH5788d ago

How can you even give any imput on this game considering you do not have a PS3? I though you bought one just to piss on it and then returned it shortly after?

Whatever you say champ...

BulletToothtony5788d ago

how many days does someone have to troll in order to get moved there??

i'll never understand the need to go troll, it's really sad, and it's obvious that is done out of jealousy... it's ok buddy.. keep telling yourself this game sucks so you can feel ok about your choice of console

Diselage5788d ago

Future does not own this site, they do have investments but that in no way translates to ownership.

Syronicus5788d ago

Why bother posting such flame bait? Does this make you feel better to flame in a thread where it is unnecessary to do so? Please, visit the Open Zone, your friends miss you there.

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Spike475788d ago

WOW seriously these guys have lost all their trust from me.

giving MGs4 an 8/10 is like saying " I am another immature xbox360 troll"

jessupj5788d ago (Edited 5788d ago )

Well there's goes another site on my 'has absolutely no credibilty' list. It's sad really, before this generation there wasn't really much bias in reviews. Now it seems like you have to swin through a sea of crap to find that one genuin, unbias fish.

Silogon5788d ago (Edited 5788d ago )

Mgs4 doesn't have anything on One Life to Live, dare they compare to my day time soaps! Truth is, these shills are morons and will always be in the back of the line begging to grow an inch taller so they can ride the big kid rides by the time they reach the front of it.

P.S. I'd put Todd Manning up against Snake anyday, though. ;-)

Edit to the below: I don't know what's more pathetic, you for thinking I was serious or the fact that you think soap operas should induce such a rage that you'd ridicule someone over them.

Pretty damn sad.

fork_the_lad5788d ago (Edited 5788d ago )

Soaps suck gay facker or you a girl?

Shadow Man5788d ago

Can somebody ban fork_the_lad he is being an aZZHOLE to everybody. I don't think he is a ps3or360 fan.

Get a life dude. and stop sending me PM with your other accounts

fork_the_lad5788d ago (Edited 5788d ago )

Im a nintendo fanboy motherfunky. Look at my jacet. It has Zelda on it111111111

And i not send u message. you are useless person. Why do you even wake up in the morning

heyheyhey5788d ago (Edited 5788d ago )

for the last time

YOUR NOT FUNNY

EDIT: *sigh*

15 years of age?

fork_the_lad5788d ago (Edited 5788d ago )

AND YOUR THE CUM YOUR MOTHER SHUD HAV SWALLOWED

Ask your mother what sex position makes the ugliest baby....

You should have been terminated at birth and thrown away. Like the doctor said when u wer born. "this cud get ugly"

edit: i was lying when i said am 15 or 16 or whatever i said

Sir_Ken_Kutaragi5788d ago (Edited 5788d ago )

'Ask your mother what sex position makes the ugliest baby....'???

Well your Mum said just look at your Photo!!! ;-D

whoknew5788d ago

the PS3 sucks because it has no games, the only good game is Genji, but even that's worse than Halo 3- MGS4 is toasted turd, lol 93 on meta what a flop jeez

IzKyD13315788d ago

your not cool so stop trying

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riqued5788d ago

The guy wants more shooting... This is a stealth game!!

Mc1875788d ago

this is stealth action not a shooter.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro40d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7240d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_40d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga40d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2340d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200040d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin40d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole40d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix40d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198940d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198940d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons351d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde351d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden351d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop351d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu350d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop351d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17351d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop350d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136350d ago (Edited 350d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984350d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster350d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989351d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon351d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA351d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon351d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA351d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon351d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden351d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt350d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989350d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90351d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden351d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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