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Gamesradar reviews MGS 4

Daniel Dawkins writes:

''Metal Gear Solid 4 is a masterpiece, arguably the best in the series and – though many will fiercely disagree – ever so slightly disappointing. About 40% through, our notepad was scarred with breathless superlatives like 'Genius', 'Amazing' and 'Wow!!!' but by the game's conclusion, they'd given way to considered criticism and stark cries of 'WTF?'. Will you enjoy it? Yes, definitely, but while most hardcore fans will adore it, a tiny minority may be left slightly deflated by the weight of their expectations, despite the game's unarguable quality.

First, a disclaimer: this isn't a 'standard' review. Kojima Productions are so obsessed with spoilers, there's a two page document outlining what we can't say, covering basic plot developments, plus a bullet-point list of forbidden items. Restrictive? Certainly, so excuse the lack of detail. There's also insufficient room, or merit, in explaining control nuances, or button presses. Note that we've finished MGS4 twice: once on 95% complete code in Japan, and again on retail code – trust us, no one's played it more.''

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chaosatom3335797d ago (Edited 5797d ago )

Gamesradar#1: "I was thinking of giving MGS4 a 20/10, but when i play it, it was only 15/10 :(, so we subtracted one point and gave it a 9/10."

Gameradar#2: "Yeah, i was thinking of giving Grid a 6/10, but it turned out to be pretty good, so we gave it a 9/10."

Jamie Foxx5797d ago (Edited 5797d ago )

even if it got 4/10 across the board this is the 1st time no review could ever stop me declaring that

THIS IS A MUST BUY TITLE

Fishy Fingers5797d ago

Hideo would probably give it an 8 with a "could do better" for measure.

That's the kind of guy he is.

morganfell5797d ago

someone has played the game more - rob smith the editor of playstation magazine. not to mention quite a few sony, konami, and kp personnel.

deeznuts5797d ago

Fishy Fingers, Itagaki would give his own game a 10, and say "nobody could do it better" cuz that's the type of guy he is!

PSMonster215797d ago

9 is the second highest score they could rate this game since all their scores have to be whole numbers.

Its as close to perfection as it can get.

popup5797d ago

Let's face it. There are alot of so called game fans on this site that only play on one piece of hardware - thus limiting the choice of games available. Everyone can appreciate that not everyone can afford all the hardware required but surely we can appreciate that there is quality on all platforms and if we could own all systems, we would!

If movies were split across two platforms like HD-DVD and Bluray were for a while, would you snub a fantastic film at the cinema because it was not coming to your disc based format? I hope not. So let us remove the jealous, fanboy pretenders and look at this product as a universally available one. Either you buy into the story, gameplay mechanics and visuals or you don't. If you do, the reviews so far easily confirm that you cannot go wrong with this title. If it really does not interest you (like a chick flick can) then 10/10 or 0/10 will make no difference.

The 'politics' of the game journalist's world can be both petty and geeky at times but reviews can only really help provide conformation of a purchase based on your preferences and expectations and nothing more. What is deserved and what is attained are rarely the on the same planet anyway for many reasons!

JimmyHACK5797d ago

Just shows you how so many of "confused" these "professionals" (sarcasm) reviewing are no better than you,I, or a bum on the street.. Not even caring what game this is for, if you just read the review, they clearly make no sense... and also the negatives are kinda funny... but whatever, everyone is most likely getting the game anyway.. it's just funny to see several confused reviewers reviewing this game already..

computer5796d ago

Honestly, I don't care what score this game gets... all I know is I want it in my hands. Now.

Lyan5796d ago

Really, the ppl above should read the review.

Quotes you should pay attention to...

"Truth is, if we've reduced your expectations, if not made you a little sad about MGS4: good. No game could survive such a hideous weight of expectation. MGS4's final judgement won't – or rather, can't – be passed today, by knee-jerk critics or fans, but by history."

"As MGS's biggest fans, if we owe the series anything, it's unburdening it from the weight of expectation and our own hype."

Taking a realistic point of view on what to expect will allow you to love the game that much more. Don't let your expectations disrupt you from enjoying what your given.

Though the review is opinionated, it balances well the magnificence of the game while acknowledging its faults.

"It's at once forward-looking and nostalgic."

Loved that quote in the review.

morganfell5796d ago

well fingers there is nothing like arriving late to the game. hideo has stated he is no longer employing that method. thickheaded westerners fail to see the nuance of humility.

Lifendz5796d ago

I'm buying this title regardless.

INehalemEXI5796d ago

The story was always confusing at some points everytime I played a MGS. I like the confusion though its leaves me something to piece together while I sneak around.

Never played a MGS I was not totally impressed with. MGS4 w/MGO starter pack its crazy that were so close to being able to own such a game.

I am full of jealous rage at those who got a Gunmetal Gear Solid ps3. I will get over it. Grrrrrr.

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Euphrate5797d ago

fair.

I'm starting to not care anymore, playing the game is all I wanted anyway. Nice score, good site.

Surfman5797d ago

Yeah anyway we're starting to know that reviewers will continue their conspiration against the PS3. So i guess 9/10 means a 10/10.

Fishy Fingers5797d ago

Everyone's against the PS3 huh (sarcasm... obviously)

Dude, a 9/10 means 9/10.

jackdoe5797d ago

Lol. Since when has a 9/10 been a bad score?

Maverick_5797d ago (Edited 5797d ago )

It's pretty obvious everyone's got an idea for "how Snake should go out" or if he should even go out at all. MGS4 is a game for the fans, te hardcore the true followers and the ending which I've heard mixed feelings on... is probably the only way he would want to see Snake leave us.

I don't think Snake is going to go down fighting anymore....maybe something much less epic for that last 90 minutes. I get a feeling he might actually just complete his mission...save and do his job and we actually see him move on or something to that effect... and maybe die later on. Its obvious this game is absolutely massive and its not going to have that "Snake on his knees fighting it out until he dies" last ending. -The game will have that... but I think Kojima already had his mind made up with the way Snake's story would have to end and it's going to be something much less subtle than orignally thought.

When you actually build up such a strong hearted and loved character in any medium to such an Epic proportion... its gets to the point where its just not good enough... I mean I'm sure the ending will do all Metal Gear fans justice and end gfood or happy but maybe Snake just retires and we see his body stop aging and he lives a happy last few years or maybe he dies a slow and peaceful death.

''Metal Gear Solid 4 is a masterpiece". Either wasy this will be one of the greatest of all time... this is with out a doubt my favorite gaming series of all time and I just hope in the end Snake doesn't just lose it all... he HAS too find some satisfaction for all he's battled for!!!

lonestarmt5797d ago

since when is gamesrader the be all and end all of game reviews? seriously I hate fanboys on both sides do this. The game got many perfect scores and even a 9.9 from ign uk. The game has also gotten an 8. Its like lets find the score or the review that fits what I want to be the be rated then everything else is baised or has been paid. Like only the reviewer who gives a game the lowest score out of all the others is the true reviewer and telling it like it is. Everyone doesn't have the same tastes. Face it people this is a fantastic game and must buy. A game that if you ever liked MGS you should buy a ps3 for. If you haven't like it then stay way. This isn't complicated. lol

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Gun_Senshi5797d ago

Apparently they did not understand the ending :D

LenHart5797d ago (Edited 5797d ago )

It is a must buy and it is teh best game of 2008

PSW gave it 10/10

It would be getting 10/10 from most websites anyway

review scans would be posted soon

Veryangryxbot5797d ago

So they expected it to be a 20/10, but it ended up a 15/10. Which of course, is still twice the game worth over a 10.

And they ended up giving the game a 9?

LOL nice reasoning. Its totally flunked.

15/10 means that even a 10 is not worth this game. It means that SDF was right and you should award this game higher than a 10.

But they ended up giving it a 9? LOL

PSMonster215797d ago

Of course it is a must buy, you don't need review scores to tell you that.

pimpstation5796d ago

I've yet to see one good reason for deducting points from any site that hasn't given it a perfect score. Look at this review. They're criticisms are:

Huge Cutscenes - Well if you can't handle them, skip them. If they are bad or don't enhance the experience, then say that. But don't take off because of their length. Unless the cutscenes are just wasting time, you can't criticize their length or frequency. They're as much a part of the MGS experience as the gameplay.

Isn't as good as we thought - The game can't be blamed if your expectations were unreasonable. If they were reasonable, then there must be another, more specific reason for deducting points.

The conclusion is indulgent - Alright now we're getting into pure bull$hit. What does this mean? Allow me to answer for you. Nothing. This is pure rhetoric. Indulgent? What a joke.

Well Gamesradar successfully continues their tradition of wasting everyone's time and not making sense. Good job.

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Euphrate5797d ago

"Nothing, nothing, would make us happier than being told we're wrong – in fact, we're resenting our gut reaction as we type, and keen to finish it again despite all our minor grievances – but either way, it's a journey we implore every gamer to take, regardless of their feelings for the series – because while the destination won't be to everyone's taste, the route is paved with gold. Damn. Now we're sad."

They clearly state that this is only their opinion ( looks like someone learned from others' mistakes)

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OtterX39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro38d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7238d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_38d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga38d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2338d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200039d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin39d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole39d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix39d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198938d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198938d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons349d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde349d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden349d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop349d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu349d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop349d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17349d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop348d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136348d ago (Edited 348d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984348d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster348d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989349d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon349d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA349d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon349d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA349d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon349d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden349d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt349d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989348d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90349d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden349d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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