GTA IV Runs at 630p on PS3, But Who Cares?

In another case of news that makes up fanboys' dreams, we've got another case of missing Ps. This time it's Grand Theft Auto IV on PlayStation 3, which has been discovered to run at only 630p – well short of the 720p you find in the 360 version.

You can find a fairly simple explanation of what that means on Kotaku, but anyone who's played the game or checked out GameVideos' side-by-side comparison of the game knows that the game looks great on both consoles. There's a slight difference with the color palettes in the two versions, and the slightly warmer colors in the PS3 version might just be a result of Rockstar using the processing power on something other than displaying those extra 90 lines.

Ultimately, while fanboys might bicker and argue about which technical detail makes for the superior version, the rest of us can go on with enjoying a terrific game.

[Breakfast]

No one...it only matter if its Halo.

lol...you cant even tell.

[chaosatom333]

COD4 looks good at 640p, gtaiv looks good at 640p.

Does halo look nearly as good as cod4 or gtaiv at 640p?

HALO was touted as the end to all gaming?
------>Look at the first trailer for god sakes.
------> halo didn't look anywhere near that trailers. GTAiv does.

edit @below: You try playing GTA AND cod4, before making a judgement and make sure that you eat some breakfast before you do, or can cause blurry vision.

You got any other pics from biased sources like microsoft.com?

getting back to the topic:

U said that "it only matter if its halo" that's because of the hype. It was twice more than GTA and 4 times more than COD4.

i played the halo multiplayer at a friends' house.

[Breakfast]

Actually yeah it does.

http://media.teamxbox.com/g...

lol...try playing before making judgment.

It looks bad at time (character models) but, it looks brilliant at other times...But, you wont believe me...lol.

How bout you buy an xbox, try the game, then pass judgment. But, answer me this. Did that pic look good yes or no?

LOL

Edit: I have, you dink...i have gta 4 on ps3, and i have played cod 4 countless times....tell me if that pic looks good.

Edit #2: "You got any other pics from biased sources like microsoft.com?"
Please keep making yourself look dumber...go play the game. You can take that pic within the first five minutes...lol....so Yes or No

Edit#3: LOL...keep avoiding it...you know what you are...i dont have to say it...i dont care how much hype it has...hype was made to sell games...not how you judge them. How about playing the game.

YES or NO

Edit#4: So you give up...do i win? Im guessing all the avoiding means - YES the pic looks good. lol...your basing your opinion on playing multi-player...lol...was it at least fun? Oh let me guess...you wont admit that too

[toughNAME]

Sergeant Johnson looked like such a retard...ugh

[ben hates you]

thats because its a xbox exclusive, if it was multiplatform the world would be to busy for much else

[dantesparda]

It doesnt look that high rez/anti-aliased in real life. Come on, breakfast, you can do better than that

And edonus, I have the game (check my gamertag), and it doesnt look quite that good.

[sonarus]

Wrong. Its not 630p its 640p :D

[mistertwoturbo]

Actually COD4 is even lower, it's 600p.

[deeznuts]

You know what's funny, the guy who discovered it was 640p (quaz51 or whatever) who is apparently a resolution counting fool, preferred the PS3 version when he announced it.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

Resolution is not the #1 factor for picture quality. Head on over to AVSFORUM and hear from non-gaming PQ obsessed posters. Contrast ratio, color accuracy etc are more important.

[dan-boy]

it only matters if it's halo, or a 360 exclusive game. man, they got to have something to accompany rrod.

halo looked and played great, so does cod4.

the reason why this can't get dropped is because of what happened the weekend before release. all the sony army were jumping up and down and beating their chests in a collective state of extacy. claiming that they were (finally) getting a superior multi-platform game...everyone of them on here was loving it. even alexM aka shadow hearts aka sammy_mantra was contributing stuff. there's was wild claims flying around, and all sorts of nonsense. people thinking that was the reason why R* hadn't shown the ps3 version pre-release incase it would've hurt the 360 sales lol. we now know why they hadn't shown the ps3 version.

but it turned out a whole lot different, and because of that weekend, there has to be thread after thread trying to justify everything. but, after most sites claim there's no noticeable differences. i think it's time to put this one to bed....remember, the quicker this is out of the news, the quicker it will be forgotten.

[Lifendz]

I just wish they would have stated it on the box. I was trying to adjust the screen on my TV before I finally just knocked my settings down to 480p. The game looks so much better running where it's supposed to be rather than trying to force 720p. My only gripe was the driving but even that is getting better. You can't drive around with the gas button pressed down all the time like you could before.

[wallace1000]

That made me laugh dude. It only matters when it is an xbox 360 exclusive, everything else is ok :-P

[CrazyMystical]

.

[athlon770]

that this whole GTA IV runing at 630/640 on PS3 was debunked and R* confirmed both the 360 and PS3 run native at 720? Anyone else remember that?

[Fan Tastic]

my 360 has more pixels on screen but it doesn't look as good :(
runs at a lower framerate than the PS3 :(
Has more pop in than the PS3 :(
less control flexibility than the PS3 :(
Didn't include my 50 million dollar content for free :(

Why is MS waisting so much money and my copy isn't better :(

[ben hates you]

you annoy me

[Amanosenpai]

I love the PS3 but come on guys... this is just pathetic.

[Jack Meahoffer]

Why don't you just post "I heart Sony" and be done with it.

[miganda]

when exactly did the 50 mill become yours dude?

[The Dude]

Why is the ps3 version of gta4 so buggy?

[SUP3R]

It is? Oo
What/Where are these "bugs" you speak of?

[Adamalicious]

I haven't seen any evidence that it's any more or less buggy than the 360 version. Neither version is so buggy that it ruins the game - the freezing stuff is a bummer, but it doesn't seem to be all that widespread (hasn't happened to me).

[Kleptic]

I thought Gamesradar or someone debunked this?...they said their comparison used straight uncompressed 720p video from both consoles 'confirming the two machines rendering in the same resolution'...

the guy on B3D also said he didn't know how new or old the screenshot was for the PS3 version of GTAIV...Game Informer had an article confirming the PS3 and 360 versions being rendered at the same resolution...

it doesn't matter to me...I own the PS3 version, and it does look great...and runs great (especially for a GTA game)...its just this would turn out to be really lame if they do indeed run at the same resolution...

[Breakfast]

Who cares...it doesnt matter, if it looks great. Pretend like you never heard of this story...would it make a difference?

[kewlkat007]

Yes who cares, really if your enjoying the game, I just hated the sh^t Halo 3 got for not being so called "Tru-HD", that's all.

I still don't know why the game is like that, on the PS3, given the Superiority complexes, we hear, every damn day on this site.

Oh well....Game on. Who cares right...

[chanto23]

"I still don't know why the game is like that, on the PS3, given the Superiority complexes, we hear, every damn day on this site."

it still was considered the superior version between the 2 so i don't think your sarcasm makes any sense...

[kewlkat007]

and you make perfect sense kiddo.

Like I said, all the Sh^t Halo 3 took was for no damn reason after seeing how well COD4 came out and now this game..

Superior version based on Opinions...Right kiddo. Perfect Sense. But who cares right..

hypocrites suck

[Kleptic]

I don't really care...that is why I said that at the bottom of my first post...I was only referring it as lame in that if blogs like kotaku took it as true, when the magic forum poster may have been wrong...

and yeah...halo 3 got a lot of crap for being 640p...but what I think is generally accepted is that the game really wasn't visually ground breaking...at all...and had halo 3 been in 720p...it would not have made a single difference...I am not starting crap on halo 3 again, I am just speaking in terms of how the general gaming audience reacted after seeing it for the first time...the 640p thing was just something for fanatics to throw at each other, differences in resolution at this scale make very little difference...

no believe me though...I haven't lost an ounce of sleep over this resolution crap...I KNOW the PS3 version looks fantastic, as well as the 360 version...I am just happy that the PS3 didn't get an Orange Box type of half-assed'ness...

[alexM]

Swedish gaming mag Gamereactor said that there are MAJOR DIFFERENCES between the 2 version

http://www.gamereactor.se/r...
Swedish Gamereactor mentioned in their 10/10 review that they were pretty surprised regarding the difference between the PS3 and 360-versions. The PS3-version features better colours, contrast, load times and what looks to be better resolution textures. The game also looks sharper and has a more stable fps.

IGN

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

"For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud".

X360 version has FR dips too . more frequent than the PS3 version
"Past GTA titles have had mild-to-serious framerate issues and technical glitches, because the games were trying to do far more than the PlayStation 2 could handle. While GTA IV is pushing the PS3 and 360 to the limit, it also runs amazingly well. Sure, there are framerate hitches here and there and (particularly on 360) there is some texture pop-in, but it actually runs better than I expected. That a game with great AI, an awesome physics engine and a detailed open world runs so well and with such short load times is a technical marvel. For that, I can forgive framerate issues and some noticeable aliasing. "

http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend...

EGM
"PS3 version looks slightly more vibrant and sharp "

GAMESRADAR

http://www.gamesradar.com/x...

"Occasional pop-up".........ONLY IN X360 version of GTA4

http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08...

So happy that i own a PS3

GAMESRADAR also confirms that PS3 version is SUPERIOR

"While the PS3 and 360 versions of the game are functionally identical, the PS3's visuals sport noticeably smoother edges, along with a warmer color palette that makes everything look slightly more realistic. If you're looking to compare Accomplishments with your Achievement-hoarding friends, though, forget it - GTA IV ignores these half-assed consolation prizes altogether. PS3 owners also have to put up with a nearly eight-minute installation the first time they start the game, which puts the normally slower Blu-ray load times on par with the Xbox 360 version. (That is, unless it's running on a 360 with no hard drive, which we're told will face much longer loads.)"

Others here u go

x360 version of GTA4 will cause your xbox 3 FIX me to permannently RROD

apparently there is no fix for the FREEZING on the X360 version

x360 version's freezing is HW related

http://kotaku.com/385183/ro...

soi freezing in GIMPED BOX 3 FIX me version has no FIX

x360 version cant be played at FULL SCREEN also

NOT TO MENTION that GIMPED BOX 3 FIX ME version has UNBEARABLE AMOUNTS OF POP INS

POP INS in GIMPED BOX 3 FIX ME versions

http://www.sonydefenseforce...

http://www.sonydefenseforce...

http://www.sonydefenseforce...

http://www.sonydefenseforce...

http://www.gamesradar.com/p...

It is OVER for XBUTTS and 3 FIX ME

VIDEO COMPARISON between GTA4 PS3 and WASHED OUT VERSION OF GTA4 ON x360

You can easily determine the best version from a series of Comparison videos

Gamevideos

http://www.n4g.com/News-140...

As seen in the video one version sports SLIGHTLY brighter and more saturated colours . Look at the water at the end. Look at the ROADS.

You could compare this video to IGN's comparison

http://www.onlineflvplayer.... http://media.rockstarwatch....

Spoiler

look at the DIFFERENCES in COLORS of the cars/ shadows/ roads. Notice that one features yellow stripes on the roads which appear as white stripes on the other version. Notice the shadows which appear dark orange on one version. Notice the car which appears slightly more greenish on the ps3 version. The yellowish green tint is VERY MUCH NOTICEABLE in one version only. see the comparison footages from 3:00 to the end to base your judgement

Gamesradar

http://www.n4g.com/News-140...

Clearly the video demonstrates the slight improved brightness and color depth in one of the versions

VIDEO GAMER comparison

http://play.tm/wire/click/1...

IGN VIDEO COMPARISON

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Cry some more for us fishhead!

All your links are fakes!!! How do you like that?

HAHAHAH

360 > PS3 version and now that it's in people's hands they are agreeing. Many multiple console owners who bought the PS3 version have since taken it back for the 360 version.

Many couldn't even get the game to play. LMAO!

The superior console can't even do 720p. Ooooh it is sooo powerful says the fishheads but then reality came and kicked you square in the nutt(I don't believe you are man enough to have both of yours drop yet).

MasSiVE DamAGE!

Now I eagerly await your childish 20 page long reply calling me names and spamming the same jizo you already posted twice in this thread.

[Nasim has no life]

Im sorry for all of my stupid posts. I realized today that Allah hates me. I should have bought an Xbox360. I'm going to eat a pork sandwich and draw pictures of the prophet muhammad. Believe in Jesus

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

AH HA HA HA HA HA Cry sniff sniff boo hoo Nasim http://www.kleenex.com He went this nuts with the GTA IV freezing, online issues and video graphic side by sides that all came out in favor of the 360. Look he is still in such denial he is posting those same links over and over again, the same links he has been posting since the launch of GTA IV and his copy freezing on him.

Poor little guy hates losing so bad, it's like a child with fingers in the ears screaming "LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALA I DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE IT LALALALALA"

I love reading his comments everyday they make me laugh, he copies and paste the same thing over and over, then he logs onto those "MANY" accounts he has to agree with himself. I would think about how sad it is, if I wasn't laughing so damn hard.

[KBDuB]

Uhm, wow.. get a life, yes?

[alexM]

VIDEO COMPARISON between GTA4 PS3 and WASHED OUT VERSION OF GTA4 ON x360

You can easily determine the best version from a series of Comparison videos

Gamevideos

http://www.n4g.com/News-140...

As seen in the video one version sports SLIGHTLY brighter and more saturated colours . Look at the water at the end. Look at the ROADS.

You could compare this video to IGN's comparison

http://www.onlineflvplayer.... http://media.rockstarwatch....

Spoiler

look at the DIFFERENCES in COLORS of the cars/ shadows/ roads. Notice that one features yellow stripes on the roads which appear as white stripes on the other version. Notice the shadows which appear dark orange on one version. Notice the car which appears slightly more greenish on the ps3 version. The yellowish green tint is VERY MUCH NOTICEABLE in one version only. see the comparison footages from 3:00 to the end to base your judgement

Gamesradar

http://www.n4g.com/News-140...

Clearly the video demonstrates the slight improved brightness and color depth in one of the versions

VIDEO GAMER comparison

http://play.tm/wire/click/1...

IGN VIDEO COMPARISON

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

@GAYAGENT aka XBUTT from GAMETRAILERS

Just get the hell out of N4G ..u XBUTTT

play GTA4 on your WASHED OUT CONSOLE

[ben hates you]

who gives a rats ass about sales, comparisons, pointless things that don't effect the peoples lives

@ above get a life

[Rocko]

You are a complete and utter f@ggot. Kill yourself asap.

[Phil Harrison Mklll]

you should GET A LIFE! you little crybaby! :D
sending me a message crying like a baby! you should get a life big time! ps i didn't read it anyway!
even xbot slaves are trying to stop "sir ken" and "shane kim" on this. read this -

http://forums.n4g.com/I_hav...

REALLY PATHETIC you xbot slaves are!

[Montrealien]

@ Phil Harrison

So the person using the name of Phil Harrison is no slave to sony?

You should look in the mirror fine sir and see the pathetic ooze out of your little character driven face. You are the true slave, and the worst kind at that, you don`t even know you are a slave.

[PeeboDaKilla]

alex...this is getting ridiculous

[alexM]

It looks and run better . Live with it

PROVED above with 1000s of LINKS

@Brothergyamon

You mean GTA4 on X360

with POP INS

SCREEN TEARING

washed out GRAPHICs

no AA

VIDEO COMPARISONS clearly reveal which is BETTER

BROTHERGAYMON

GTA4 was ported from X360 to PS3. It looks better on PS3 and runs at 720P (proved by GAMETRAILERS and GAMEINFORMER)

Play your WASHED OUT version of GTA4 on GARBAGE BOX 3 FIX ME

@MART aka BROTHERGAYMON

It is over for XBUTT and 3 FIX ME

Tomorrow GFK would be releasing their sales figures .

Play WASHED OUT GTA4 on that POP INS 3FIX ME

DLC LOL

We dont need that

we have HAZE and MGS4 coming up

Unfortunately you have nothing to play except WASHED OUT version of GTA4

GAMESRADAR and GAMEINFORMER confirmed that PS3 version of GTA4 is 720P

[JOLLY1]

Craftsman, you need to get a hobby. Do you have a word....Oh wait, Word is a Microsoft program....an open source word processor file that you just copy and paste all day? I actually wish this tool box was a 360 fan. If he was I could look up his gamertag just to see if he even plays games. He spend most of his day on this site hitting Crtl+v. You are a sad litle boy!

[Homicide]

I agree. Calm down schmee/ Nasim / Tanod / Zambrota / RIP HDVD / Tidus007 / doodle / Shadow_Hearts / Sammy Mantra.

[JOLLY1]

and you all know he will! He can make his new name craftsman.

[bneals]

You are right - it doesn't really matter. Both versions are apparently really good. The only thing that I would say as a 360 owner is that I am sick of hearing how much more powerful the PS3 is or will be some day. The simple truth is that the 360 version draws 90 frames more than the PS3 game. As a result, the 360 is being taxed more than the PS3 version. That is just a reality. I am not saying that the 360 is better or more powerful than the PS3 version, but you can't tell me that your 630p version is better than my 720p version when your system draws less lines every second.

Both versions have problems. The 360 has less draw and the PS3 version seems to be locking consoles up. Maybe it is me, but I will take the pop ins.

[projectile]

If the ps3 really was so much more powerfull it could draw the same ammount of lines and still use the post prosessing effects it is using to make it look good.
The graphicsåart on the ps3 is not as powerfull so they use the cell for the postprosessing to make it look better. I have to admit the postprosessing they do with the cell is pretty good.

[ben hates you]

who cares about sales, who cares about other peoples opinion, who cares about this stuff is really insecure in my opinion

[brothersimon]

lol @ ps3 getting shyt version.

also funny how halo 3 runs at 640 too, yet droids bash it and insult etc

now its one of the biggest games this year, and on their console they defend it sayin its not a big deal

rofl smh pussies

[Varsarus]

I thought that Dot50Cal person sent a screenshot from IGN to that Quaz person to analyze....

[flexbox360]

if it was the other way around, i know all these comments would be so much different. stupid fanboys. especially the ones who think they have shares in sony, not to mention the imitation market analysts lol. this fanboy stuff is boring now

[jkhan]

People who count pixels are bunch of low life teenagers that have nothing better to do. Enjoy the game what it is offering you. I am 17 hours into the game & I have enjoyed every second of it. Those who can't enjoy a game sit down & cry over how bad the game looks or what resolution this game runs on.

[yanikins111]

F***ING bubbles man. We are winners baby. You and Me. Yeah Man. We get it. Its all about the STYLE man. You gotta be genetically different to see it. Its the fun you have man. Its the cruising for chicks. Its the f***ing choppers over the f***ing statue of happiness man. Its the Wasting cops. Its the bullshark testosterone. YEAH BABY!

[ElementX]

I care because people made such a big fuss about Halo 3

[MikeGdaGod]

the difference is that Halo 3 was made for the 360 as its flagship title. it should have shown what the 360 was capable of much like Gears did.

GTA4 was made on the 360 then ported to the PS3. if MGS4 runs at 640p, then i might be upset.

and it looks great on my tv in 1080p.

[brothersimon]

rofl @ alexm gettin mad

what u gon be doin after u finished story cus it aint big really

i mean, im gonna do mp for a bit.. then come back to the new DLC HAHAHAHAH

owned.

and dont act like u dont care about dlc.. yall make urself look like a worse ass than u do already.

and could u imagine if gta ran 720 on ps3, itll be unplayable, least 360 can play it

owned much

kthx :)

[flexbox360]

but if it was superior to the 360 version u would so much care

PS u cant be a ps3 fan boy if u dont own a ps3

[Kleptic]

apparently you didn't read any of the original threads about this...360 fanatics definitely cared...

there is very few things on this site that are funnier than when someone says 'one side does things that the other doesn't'...one thing is certain...both sides will take aim at any cost...its the nature of the entire community...

[Vanqu1sh]

Rockstar giving ps3 640p version is crap since ps triple is more powerful than 360

[LorD]

when GTAIV hits the PC, you will all eat your extra 90 lines of resolution for lunch.

Just imagine this game on TRUE high-def.

[Rocko]

Would've been a goddamn slideshow at 720p.

[brothersimon]

ROFL @ Alex

"DLC LOL

We dont need that"

ANYBODY who owns GTAIV would want it, why wouldnt you? more story?? come on, stop being a fuking fangirl...

Droids = fail, stop making me laugh :-)

I know you're sitting there like "MAN WISH WE HAD DLC :'("

[hanson520]

and who care Runs at 630p on PS3!

[The Dude]

you hero is an @ss bag just like you.

[Funky Town_TX]

the 360 got destroyed by Sony fangirls because Halo3 was not in "HD". If the game looks good on my 1080p sammy I don't care what res they made it in.

[kornbeaner]

From a PS3 fan to a PS3 extremist

-bubbles.

STFU already.

[ActionBastard]

If Halo 3 can catch flack for 630p, then GTA IV on PS3 can catch the same flack. Of course, none of it matters. I'll let the devs decide what rez to render my games in. Not a futile pissing contest.

[The Dude]

Halo 3 is 640p
GTA4 for ps3 is 630p

[ActionBastard]

See "futile pissing contest". Is 10p even worth a comment? Jesus.

[Gitaroo]

its 640p, same as Halo 3, it has been confirmed for the second time when the high quality screenshots were out. And they ppl that talk about it still havent got it right.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

The fishheads seemed to care when it was Halo 3 we were talking about. Now it's all "just shutup and enjoy the game on whatever system you have it looks great". When 360 owners said Halo 3 looks great that wasn't good enough and it certainly isn't good enough in this case.

360 > PS3

No excuses

[Varsarus]

Oh look, a crabbot seems to be losing bubbles, I say gang up

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Varsarus]

Then HOW THE HELL is Heavenly Sword 720p with 4xAA?, Killzone 2 is said to be 720p with 4xMSAA, not to even mention WarDevil, 1080p @ 60fps....this article and GTA IV resolution makes no sense.

[i Shank u]

fail

[CrizzleC24]

you (Ps3) dummies went for hours about how halo 3 was at 640 or 550 or some ratio like that.

So hippocrates=PS3 or just hippocrates = sony

seriously you guys contradict yourselves every week it seems.

sony at Ps2 "graphics dont make good games"

sony at the Ps3 "our graphics will kill the 360"

sony at halo 3 "omg look its running at 650 lines of res"

sony at GTA 4 "oh who cares its way better anyway"

sony at killzone 2 "look I cant wait to play it in 06' "

sony at killzone 2 in 20 years
"dude the graphics were worth the wait...*wake up* sh!t !!!"

Ill switch to ps3 if they get a good rts or two like supreme commander or starcraft 2, that'l be the gamebreaker for me.

but yeah enough about me, lets see how you dummies can bend my poor grammar and statements to make me seem insane.

have a nice day..

[Funky Town_TX]

looks like the PS3 has reached it's limit already.

[mistertwoturbo]

I have a better one, the 360 hit it's limit when Gears of War came out. Why? Nothing has looked better than that game, and it's been over a year and a half.

[Varsarus]

Don't be dumb, unless your being sarcastic...

If not, developers are only seeing 30% of the PS3 power in games, Uncharted being one believe it or not.

"SPUS: lots of stuff. Scene traversal, water, decompression, particles, etc. Using only 30% of SPUs"

http://xemu.blogharbor.com/...

The Cell owns Intel's & AMD's latest CPU's to date.

http://www.n4g.com/tech/New...

So what were you saying????

[Whoooop]

HALO 3 wasn't only exclusive to the 360, it was MS/360 Flagship tittle.

That's why HALO3 deserves all the smack.

[Varsarus]

Exactly, Halo 3 was purely optimized for the 360, all dev kits available, so what caused the game to be lower resolution and with NO anti-aliasing?

It's either 2 guesses

Bungie are crap coders

or

It's the hardware

[Funky Town_TX]

Just joking. Actually I could care less if Uncharted used 5% of the PS3's power or if the PS3 ran at 8 terflops. I play games not specs. Read my other post I don't care what res GTA is either.

[yanikins111]

"hippocrates" was actually a greek philosopher i think

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

The truth is the PS3 has no limits as of yet while the Xbox 360 hit its limit when Gears of War came out..Talk about a sad short life cycle!!!
What a Joke!!Whats next xbox720 for X-mas???
Hope you enjoyed your budget PC aka Xbox360 suckers and all those "hand me down better on PC titles"..!!

The Sad part is these lazy sorry Developers are using the 360 as a lead platform and trying to port over code that was designed to run on that poor Low def system that originally had no HDMI and is crippled by 10MB of Ram that can't handle HD and post processing.

SO these lazy bafoons are employing this same approach to the PS3 porting over crap code, which spells disaster.Its like they are trying to Emulate the 360 on the PS3, instead of using the PS3 as a lead and building an engine from scratch that was designed for Cell; and make use of the PPU and SPU's power and parallelism , re-thinking data organization and algorithms.LAZY poor developers.

[JokesOnYou]

imo the gametrailers side by side comparison vid showed the game is just a bit better looking on the 360, the close ups were just sharper on the 360, while ps3 version has somekind of fine blurr effect to it. Either way GTA4 isn't exactly the best in terms of graphics for ps3 or 360, but when has graphics ever been GTA's selling point?

It does make you wonder though, why would R* have to dumb down the resolution at all for the ps3 version? I mean the game was delayed so you would think that with all the time they spent and all the ps3 raw power that it would be on par with the 360 res or maybe higher. Now I hear people saying R* used some kind of "post processing" tech for the ps3 version if so I don't see where, but frankly I won't pretend to understand how it works but that still makes me wonder why couldn't they do that and run the game natively at 720p with all the power packed in the ps3?

ahhh well, although I do find it very ironic(funny) considering all the pre-game talk, either the game looks good on both consoles, the only people that keep looking at the pixel count is the n4g detectives.

JOY

[Lord Vader]

Good points. And I find it even more insulting (as a PS3 owner) that the game cant run without freakin streaming from the HDD... what's up Sony ???

Am I gonna have to download 1-4GB's per game to run them now ???

[laryforlife]

the reason i bought a 360 instead of a ps3 was because there is no difference between the two, I could get a bigger selection of games plus that looked better or the same on the 360, one day I will buy a ps3 when there is a game that gives me a reason too, right now i don't see that happening very soon.

[ActionBastard]

The 360 is the best console ever. The are 100's of games worth spending $60 for.

[spooky205]

even if the games are bomber man act zero?

[the new haloblows]

The ending pissed me off, but I think there is two ways it could end though, so the other ending might not suck as bad.

[Marriot VP]

I want my 90p!!!

call the whammmmm - bulance

[DFresh]

Stop this propaganda already both versions run in 720P w/ the exception of the PS3 being able to upscale to 1080P.
Stop the hating it's already been confirmed by several reviewers and critics that the PS3 has the superior version of this game just accept it and move on.

[laryforlife]

I don't think gears of war, pgr4, halo, mass effect, ng2, xbla titles such as rez, are games that nobody wants to play, maybe i'll get a ps3 for mgs,maybe, but i don't know about echochrome, and yeah every review site says there is no noticeable difference between the game,

[wow4u]

...Except maybe all the freezing issues the PS3 is having with GTAIV.

[devilhunterx]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Whoooop]

some framerate issues and noticeable pop-ups on the 360, but apart from that they are pretty much the same.

:)

[DJ]

"PS3 GTA freezes" blah blah blah. I've been playing since tuesday, and I'm still looking for some kind of bug, some kind of freezing,...some messup?

Man, the FUD is on high alert with this game.

[Bloodwar]

What he doesn't show you in the youtube clip is that the PS3 is sitting on the right side of the screen and is the version actually running the game and freezing. HAHA =) J/K On launch day, once during my online cops and crooks battle at the score board, did my 360 freeze. It hasn't froze since then though. *knocks on wood*

Seriously though and back on topic, I don't care that the PS3 version runs at 630p. I don't have a PS3. Its just sad that the PS3 fanboys can come here and bash the 360 and cry when the 360 actually comes around and punches the PS3 right in the face. Yep, better resulution than the PS3 and also exclusive downloadable content in the fall that the PS3 players won't be getting. Way cool!

[gambare]

no one who likes the game

[bootsielon]

Which is ironic, considering they don't own a PS3. PS3 owners don't care because even at a lower resolution it looks and plays better. Sure, online player sucks right now for PS3 owners, but a patch is coming.

"but your the most worthless carrer sony fanboy of them all"

Mine? Whose most worthless "carrer sony fanboy of them all"? I don't collect them you moron. Oh, you meant "you are"? The word "Your" indicates possession you moron, so I can't possibly own "the most worthless carrer sony fanboy of them all".

"Your always trashing 360 articles and now you want to give it a rest."

I don't wanna give it a rest, I say flame on, dipsh1t. I couldn't care less if the PS3 version runs at 220p and the 360 version runs at 1440p if the 220p still looks better. Who cares if Newtonian physics are worse than Einsteinian physics if Einsteinian physics aren't very practical for most real world situations? Especially when Einstenian physics are too taxing, just like 720p is taxiong on the 360 and causing massive dithering.

"The power of the cell is a myth GTA4 running at 630p proved that at least halo3 was 640p."

I guess you know better than whoever made the PS3, or uses the PS3 as a simulation device, "dude".

"Below is one of you buttsielon posts"
"However, Halo 3's quality is definitely in question 640p"

Yes, Halo 3 is 640p, but it in no way gets to render as many effects as GTA4 let alone MGS4. It looks like a cartoon, just like GTAIV does on 360. Ironic how 640p on PS3 looks better than 720p on 360, isn't it? Massive dithering, pop-in, framerate issues and non-realistic colors. Xtards like you love to say your version of GTA looks "sharp" as if it was a good thing; pixels do look sharp when Anti-aliasing doesn't work well, and it seems that even at 720p you can count the pixels on the 360 version. Do a 4x Zoom on the 360 version, and even at 720p, it looks horrible, but perhaps it looked better than running on a 360 with more AA but less resolution like on PS3.

Keep playing Halo 2.5, I'm sure it must be fun to pay 60 bucks for a rehashed product with few extra features to warrant the complete price tag not to mention the yearly fee...

[The Dude]

Your always trashing 360 articles and now you want to give it a rest. The power of the cell is a myth GTA4 running at 630p proved that at least halo3 was 640p.

Below is one of you buttsielon posts
"However, Halo 3's quality is definitely in question 640p"

I would say that definitely puts the PS3 GTA4 quality in question running at 630p

[t-0_ot-]

Omg.. Give it a rest about Halo 3 looking "cartoony." That's the way the game was meant to look. It's the type of art direction they chose. Just like Ratchet and Clank. It's the art direction that makes it look "cartoony." The res has NOTHING to do with that. Just like GTA4, it looks more like real life than Halo 3, because, well, it's because of the art direction(fancy that).

"Keep playing Halo 2.5, I'm sure it must be fun to pay 60 bucks for a rehashed product with few extra features" Ooooh. That's hilarious. aaaaaaaHahaha -.- Moron. If I remember correctly, it's people like you, the *hardcore* (I put it like that because you fight over N4g more than actually playing the games your fighting about) PS3 fanboy that bought a FCKIN DEMO for, what was it, like $40?? Now, THAT'S Hilarious! Haha

[Mwaan]

But you're still just expressing your horribly biased opinions. There are no facts in your posts. The graphical discrepancies between both versions of GTA4 are so minor that it's not even worth arguing about. It actually all comes down to personal preference. For every advantage there is a disadvantage on the PS3 version. Loads quicker, but has to install. Less graphical hiccups, but has to run at a lower resolution. I guess you can't be a Sony fanboy unless you hate Halo 3. That game has been out for 8 months and you guys still won't stop talking about it. I guess that alone proves what kind of an impact the game made.

[Rocko]

Just walk away.

[themyk]

i don't know about the res issues. i have a ps3. and i played it on the 360 and to me it looked kind of grainy. and it got much worse when the car started to speed up. thats what i noticed.

[Bathyj]

Well after reading all the comments its pretty safe to say, the main people who care are the ones who hate PS3.

People with PS3 are just glad:
1. We didn't get a crappy port.
2. The frame rate is smooth, I actually haven't noticed any bad drops yet even with full stars.
3. The popin is limited to a few textures. No buildings or trees popin right in front of you. Just a some textures down the road.

I can live with that, you should try it too.

Besides, I'm playing it at 1080p and it looks great.

[condorstrike]

Call me wii fan boy or whatever you want but I do cares since you ps3freaks are always ranking on the wii's 480p resolution, now I rank on you, since you're all running games at such low resolutions almost wii like and have to spend 10 minutes installing games, I do care and laugh with excitement... LOL.

The promise of BlueRay running all games @ 1080p,lol. Sony sure fooled all of you huh?

[Bathyj]

No one EVER promised all games at 1080p, so who'se the fool? Me who enjoys my console or you, who apparently is upset for believing a promise that was never made.

Besides Wii owners (of which I am one) dont even count in this argument. Theres not that much difference between 600p upscaled and 720p native. But the difference between 480p and 720p, upscaled or not is huge. Seriously, a Wii only owner trying to nugde into this conversation like he can cause some harm to PS3 is like a virgin 12 year old trying to give John Holmes sex tips.

[yanikins111]

At the last bit

[Says you]

Doesn't know crap why doesn't anybody just call Rockstar and stop with the forum crap considering what would forum people know and especially a website named kotaku why the hell should people trust that site? and plus all I keep seeing is the PS3 version why don't they compare the same picture with the XBox 360 version and see if there the same which I know they are some people are just trying to make the PS3 look bad and plus Rockstar hasn't confirmed the PS3 version is in 630p and again people say its 640p so why listen to morons that go back on there word and say its 630p? now there just craping every where and as usual the XBox 360 fans will jump at this at the drop of a hat!

so of course they would listen to a forum post.

[599 US Dollars]

Well, that's an easy one. It's the same group of morons who complained about Halo 3.

Only the difference here is, PS3 is supposed to destroy 360 in performance, but...never seems to do so. How odd. GTA looks blurry on PS3.

[OOG FunK]

its funny how people on this site work....
they will complain about halo saying OoO not hd not hd but

when cod came out ps3 fans go o yea well ps3 has more liness.....negative......

but now when GTA comes out and the PS3 kiddies have it and it is proven that gta runs at a lower res......no one cares?????go figure.....hypocrits much?????

[DJ]

All I can say though is just buy the frickin' game? PS3 version's technically better, so that's the one to get if you have both consoles. But if you only have one or the other, no reason to buy a PS3 or 360 just for this game.

[Bloodwar]

What makes the PS3 version technically better when it doesnt run as high a resolution as the 360 and also doesn't get the exclusive content that the 360 does get? LOL

[Bazookajoe_83]

Dont take my head of, this is just a question. I havent been so much on n4g lately (Because of one certain game), but from the articles i have read ive heard the ps3 version looks a little better. Anyone seen any thing else?

[mistertwoturbo]

here's why they think the PS3 version looks better, without resolution in mind.

360 version
http://img87.imageshack.us/...

PS3 version
http://img87.imageshack.us/...

Notice the shadows, police car, and the fences on the 360 version. It has this weird pastel look to it. Then look at the PS3 version, again though running a lower resolution, the fences are much more defined, the shadows on the court are smoother.

X360 version
http://img187.imageshack.us...

PS3 version
http://img187.imageshack.us...

Look at the signs on the top right. The 360 version's dithering is so bad, the signs disintegrate. also look at the tree's to the left of the building. The PS3 version looks nice and smooth, while the 360 version looks like it's been soda blasted.

Granted, these differences are "minimal" and aren't as obvious in motion but they are there. So that's why all the sites are claiming the PS3 version "looks" better.

[Bazookajoe_83]

Bubbles for you =)

[i Shank u]

thx for posting those images, those are some of the better comparo shots ive seen. bubble to ya

[fablib]

We cannot think to fool no PS3 owners by saying that 630p + No AA + Vaselline Effect is better than 720p + AA… And please, remember that even with a MANDATORY installation we have frame rate issues and even some pop-in… Well, not to mention the huge freezing problems… And the online ones…
The game is a great fun, but on my PS3 from a technical standpoint is full of little problems…
After all, I can easily admit that this game is disappointing to me… Not for the game in itself, but for what the game should represent…
I still wait for “the revenge” of PS3 but after more than a year, I more than sure that also this time Sony has lied… as usual…

[permutated]

I love how "gamers" have this bullsh!t double standard for the Grand Theft Auto franchise...

Examples...

COD4- Bad textures!
GTA4- Bad textures! But it's an open world so it's ok.

Halo3- Not "true" HD.
GTA 4- Not "true" HD. Who cares it's GTA4! OMG!

Fuc%ing retarded. I'm seriously concerned that fanboyism is ruining the gaming community. All you 4 year olds should go back to school.

[power of Green]

Are these fucs kidding? the PS3 version is so blurry it hurts.lol

[Bathyj]

Cause you've played it......, on your PS3....., Riiiiight.

Bigger arse than usual Pogmart.

[t-0_ot-]

At least he has ONLY two accounts.. Some people *cough*NASIM*cough* have like 10 active accounts.

[Jamegohanssj5]

If no one cares, then why don't you all just shut the hell up?

The Genius has spoken.

[moujahed]

When i press the display button on my t.v. controller It says 720p... because I have my ps3's HDMI output set to, 720p. Seeing that my Olevia television is 720p / 1080i . While you have other people who set their PS3's to 1080p, and their television says 1080p... go figure.

So Can the PS3 upscale the default 630p to 720p, 1080i, or even 1080p... That's what alot of PS3 gamers are reporting...

Why arent they speaking about this???

[SL1M DADDY]

It's simple, does the game play great? Does it make you giddy when you turn it on to play? While playing the game does it make you look hard at the screen to see (or not see) the missing lines of resolution? Come on, this is getting old. it's not like Halo 3 or COD4 looked bad. In fact, each of these games look great.

[JasonX43]

Who cares if the game isn't so high def that you can count the hairs on Niko's head? GTA has never been about having the best graphics in the first place. It's about game play, shock value, and lowbrow humor. I could've cared less if the game was in 150p, I'd still play it!

[KBDuB]

I would happily say "who cares." But, some people on the other hand.. not so much.

[t-0_ot-]

hahaahahah The ps3 fanboys act like they "don't care." And, they act like they don't care because they would look even more like hypocrites than they already do.. since they was hatin on Halo 3.

[themyk]

i don't care because i've played the game on both consoles and i know it looks better on the ps3. maybe the importance of a mandatory install is starting to show itself. all i know is it does look better on the 3.
sorry guys it's true.

[iceman2885]

I usually don't try to get involved with fanboy flame wars. But do you think the same 360 fanboys that post "Blu-ray sucks, upconverting DVD is just as good, you can't even tell the difference" are the same ones that are saying "PS3 GTA4 is terrible, its only 640p and all grainy while the 360 version is 720p and razor sharp". That's a little hypocritical...isn't it?

[sleepbox]

Funny how all PS3 owners can do seemingly is give themselves affirmations on why their version is superior using backwards logic.

[mistertwoturbo]

Actually the PS3 version running at 640p actually turned out to be an advantage for the system.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...
http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

There's some serious dithering effects on the 360 version when running in 720p. Maybe a patch could remedy the 360's version, but at this point. The PS3 though blurrier, doesn't have as much dithering as the 360's.

Which one is superior is now just a matter of opinion.

[zonetrooper5]

GTA is an open world game of course its going to use more processing power and such rather than a linear shooter like CoD4 or Halo 3.

[crimsonfox]

because i cant afford an hd yet so... eh....

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

Im an expert at this crap and all I can say this is a BS article!!!
Once again without getting into Technical detail(refresh rates,FPSec,viewing distances,Size of screen relating to resolution.
I'll say this for all you Dumb aholes that wonder what all the fuss is about resolution is about.
SIMPLE
Adjust your Computer Monitor from one resolution to the next one up you will see a huge difference in clarity and solidity in what you read.lessening eyestrain etc.
NOW imagine this on a big 42in or 50 inch screen Which do you prefer to have ??
Hi Def or Low Def???
Thats why standards were created!!!
I din't buy an HDTV or a PS3 for LOW def chunky crap..$$$$$$$
no i paid for HI-DEF glorious stuff i.e. GT5 Prologue!!!
Fck-OFF Rockstar and Bungie!! you suck at developing Hi-def cause your weak sauce!!!!

[crimsonfox]

gt5 because you can only do so much in a racing game so eh... your not that professional i bought a ps3 for good games not good graphics i guess were not all the same eh???

[jinn]

nobody cares, the article was pointless

[OldGamer]

When I'm playing the game and I hit the info button on my TV, it says the game is at 1080i. I don't have 720p or 1080p on my tv.

So why is everyone saying it's running at 630p or whatever?

Someone help me understand, I'm a bit confused.

[i Shank u]

games like halo 3, gta 4 (ps3 version), and cod4 run in 640-600P natively ; the scaler chip in the console then upscales that into 720 p, or 1080 i/p, whatever you like. a game thats 1080p native is supposed to look better then a 640P native game that is upscaled into 1080p. your tv is showing the resolution of the incoming source, not the native res. the console is rendering the game in. hope that helped : )

[Lord Vader]

Because your tv is upscaling the resolution to suit it. It does not truly make it look any better, it allows the video signal to be output at 720p. Tv's do not natively display 640p resolution.

[Official General]

They were all broken hearted when they realised at once that all the main online game reviews of GTA 4 stated that the PS3 version looks slightly better and runs more smoother than the 360 version. It was the ultimate heartbreaker for the 360 crowd. So it is very easy to understand why all you vengeful 360 fanatics are eagerly jumping at the chance to bash the PS3 with this bullsh*t 630p rumour. Well let me hot you with some facts:

* It has already been confirmed by Rockstar that both the PS3 and 360 versions run at 720p natively and upscale to 1080p. This was on an earlier Gamespot article on GTA 4.

* This so-called PS3 GTA 4 603p pixel-counting test was done on screenshot of GTA 4 from IGN on a PC screen. Who is to say which version it is? It is not reliable information at all.

* Rockstar have NOT confirmed this rumor, so why should anyone believe a post from a forum?

* On the back of the box of the PS3 version of GTA 4 it clearly states 720p, 1080i and 1080p. My Sony Bravia HD TV plays my copy of PS3 GTA 4 at 720p. As far I'm concerned this tell me that the PS3 version is 720p.

* Even the Rockstar developers say the PS3 version looks better.

* http://forums.gametrailers.... - check this link.

Just face it guys and let it rest the PS3 version looks better than the 360 version just like most reviewers say!

[wallace1000]

Do people realize that the time they spend analyzing and arguing over GTA versions could be spent actually playing the game? Last time i checked playing it is more fun than arguing over it :-P That is why there is no chance in hell i am going to read all the comments in here.

[condorstrike]

to BathyJ, I have a 360, and thank god I didn't buy the ps3, besides i'm not a huge fan of the GTA series the only one i really played was vice city, and that was for the pc, and yes you ps3 freaks were all hyped up on the ps3 1080p graphics and as of today all you got is a handfull of HD games and upscaled games that really suck and look worst that the 360 which came out a year before.

by the way GTA looks better sometime on the ps3 and sometimes on the 360, eg: green pavement:"360" unrealistic-blue cloudless sky:"ps3"
so give it a rest the game's colors suck and resolution suck, rockstar suck. flame-on...lol...

[Official General]

They were all broken hearted when they realised at once that all the main online game reviews of GTA 4 stated that the PS3 version looks slightly better and runs more smoother than the 360 version. It was the ultimate heartbreaker for the 360 crowd. So it is very easy to understand why all you vengeful 360 fanatics are eagerly jumping at the chance to bash the PS3 with this bullsh*t 630p rumour. Well let me hot you with some facts:

* It has already been confirmed by Rockstar that both the PS3 and 360 versions run at 720p natively and upscale to 1080p. This was on an earlier Gamespot article on GTA 4.

* This so-called PS3 GTA 4 630p pixel-counting test was done on screenshot of GTA 4 from IGN on a PC screen. Who is to say which version it is? It is not reliable information at all.

* Rockstar have NOT confirmed this rumor, so why should anyone believe a post from a forum?

* Most gaming reviewers say that the PS3 version looks and runs better.

* Even the Rockstar developers indicate that the PS3 version has better graphics.

* http://forums.gametrailers.... - check this link. It is says the PS3 version is indeed 720p.

On the back of the box of the PS3 version of GTA 4 it clearly states 720p, 1080i and 1080p. My Sony Bravia HD TV plays my copy of PS3 GTA 4 at 720p. As far I'm concerned this tells me that the PS3 version is 720p.

The 360 version is still great of course. But just face it guys and let it rest the PS3 version looks better than the 360 version just like most reviewers say.

[i Shank u]

ok sony defense force. you win

[The Gaming priest]

looks sharper on the 360, while ps3 version has some kind of blurr effect to it. Heard people say that its to cover up the lower res and lack of aa and do think they could be right.

It does make you wonder though, why would RS had to dumb down the resolution at all for the ps3 version?

I mean the game was delayed so you would think that with all the time they spent and all the ps3 raw power that it would be on par with the 360 res or maybe higher.

Makes me wonder why they could not do that and run the game natively at 720p with all of Sonys comments on the power in the ps3?

Right now im feeling decieved by Sony from what ive played and seen of the two versions.

Dont even get me started on the online component for the Ps3. This game along with GT5p has made me re think my purchase.

Maybe next year would of been better to purchase a PS3......I just don't know anymore.

How can the older,cheaper,no Br disc be running at a higher resolution ?

I want answers or at least the truth from now on from Sony because the BS does Sony no favours with me and guess other customers like me.

[zerolinkgannon]

^.^ nice comment!

[pshizle]

630p WOW

thats less than Halo3 and COD4 which runs 640p

[Bizmal]

PS3 version is better anyway. I've played them both. let it go.

[zerolinkgannon]

Cause I have the xbox 360 version. lol

[Stoner_dude]

Xbox 360 owners are the ones who care because it gives them a reason to rag on ps3