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Wii Game Sales Weak?

There's no denying that Nintendo sits atop videogame system sales with the Wii, however an article in today's New York Times notes it's the Wii game (software) sales that are lacking. The article notes a sharp drop in Super Smash Bros. Brawl sales, with retailers such as Toys R Us bundling the game with the Wii system and a GameStop store reporting sales dropping from "a couple thousand" in the first week to "maybe 100" in the weeks following. No doubt, hardcore fans swooped it up in the first week, as March 2008 NPD numbers show. But are Wii owners supporting the system's library enough?

PS360WII5838d ago

meh. Wii sales are much better than GC sales so far so not to weak.

Bleucrunch5838d ago

I barely play the wii since I got brawl. Actually I bought my wii on the day that brawl released and I still dont play it much at all. During a 7 day week I might play it once if I am lucky enough to remember to do so. The wii has not games that appeal to me, I will not buy mario kart wii because at this point I can see that Nintendo is just remaking this games which is really annoying if you think about it.

PS360WII5838d ago

I've been playing the Wii more than the others for the past month or so. There hasn't been anything out but on the Wii for me at least. I've been playing Opoona, Baroque, and Okami just resently along with Brawl still playing Dragon Quest Swords and Fire Emblem. PS3 I play GT5P but only in small bursts and 360 I'll pop in Lost Odyssey every once in a while. Yet for a good while it's been back and forth between Wii and DS. Lots of games for the DS I'm playing too :)

ChickeyCantor5838d ago

one disagreed with you....LOGIC FAILURE * head explodes*

Xiru5838d ago

This is normal. It has been stated many times by many different sources, the most recent being the Epic president that the Wii is selling because of curiosity. Once a person buys it, they usually find that it gets boring after a little while. I know that I haven't touched my Wii since Brawl came out. Most gamers will go to the 360/PS3 to get their gaming fix. Its the casual market who is buying the Wii, and they really aren't big game buyers.

Xiru5838d ago

Yep I study charts all the time. Casual and 1st party titles rule the charts. Typical of Nintendo sytems.

nirwanda5838d ago

sorry xiru it wasn't meant as it may have sounded, I think the problem devs have with the wii they don't understand that the hardcore gamers do own wii's but also have a 360/PS3 it's like the DS they need to have better unique idea's then it will sell by the bucket load.

Why would a port of a next gen game sell

BrotherNick5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

From Nirwanda: "hardcore gamers do own wii's but also have a 360/PS3 it's like the DS they need to have better unique idea's" Don't you think Nintendo has created Wii Sports and Wii Fit? Those are quite unique ideas. It's the other developers who are having trouble making sales for the wii...their "backwards looking design teams" is the real problem...I think the wii was made to change perceptions of what a game is, or can be.

From Xiru: "Casual and 1st party titles rule the charts." Shouldn't games be for everyone? I don't think the industry should ostracize other groups of people to gaming. If they didn't make the market bigger there would be less reason for gaming overall, because if you seen the trends of how many were gaming from the snes up, you would see that less people were playing games, therefore less revenue, therefore less games. I put money that many casual gamers will start craving more hardcore type games...not many, but a good enough amount. You have to realize that most people aren't as obsessed as we are.

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BeaArthur5838d ago

I could have told you this. The Wii doesn't have very many good games and they don't really appeal to the hardcore gamer. As a result there target market consists of people who do not buy lots of games (recreational users) and little kids (who rely on their parents to buy the games). I like Metriod, Zelda, Mario Kart and Mario Galaxy, they are all great games but that equals 4 games in the year and a half the system has been out.

KingJFS5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

Super Smash Bros Brawl sold 2.7 million copies in March. No PS3 game has ever sold that many in America and only three Xbox 360 games have (Halo 3, Call of Duty 4 and Gears of War).

To say that Wii sales are "weak" after a game becomes the fourth best-selling game of this generation is moronic.

BeaArthur5838d ago

Game sales is plural meaning not just one game. Super Smash Brothers may have trounced other game sales but go look at the statistics of Wii game sales as a whole.

Voiceofreason5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

I have and they are just fine over all. Even the shovel ware is managing some decent sales. Wii is constantly in the top spot when it comes to the amoun of software sold. Whats really sad is 5 minutes at looking at NPD data is all it took to see this guy was full of it. ALso to the person above. They specifically mentioned SSBB. Sales for that game are fine compared to many other games that arent being called failures. Someone even tried to say SMG was a failure and it has arounf 4-5 million sold now.

KingJFS5838d ago

OK fine.

In 29 months, 36 titles have sold more than a million copies worldwide on the Xbox 360. (monthly average = 1.2)

In 17 months, 25 titles have sold more than a million copies worldwide on the Wii. (monthly average = 1.5)

In 17 months, 12 titles have sold more than a million copies worldwide on the PS3. (monthly average = 0.7)

While none of the consoles are doing bad, the numbers clearly show the *PS3* software sales underperforming, not the Wii.

BeaArthur5838d ago

Voiceofreason...decent sales aren't going to cut it. By comparison the 360 and the PS3 sell more games overall. I own all 3 and by far more games for the PS3 and 360.

BeaArthur5838d ago

KingJFS...maybe but the author is not strictly talking about games that sell over a million. You seem reasonably intelligent so you probably know as I do that numbers can be manipulated to say whatever you want them to say. I'm not calling the Wii a bad console I'm just saying as a whole their game library lacks in appeal.

KingJFS5838d ago

"I'm not calling the Wii a bad console I'm just saying as a whole their game library lacks in appeal."

And I'm saying that sales numbers do not bore out that opinion. You're right, numbers can be manipulated, and that has happened often in this console war. But that is not what's happening here.

Look at the VGChartz listings for US sales between the Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360.

For the Wii...
Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 is at number 50 with 196K
Four more pages of Wii games follow.

For the PS3...
Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 is at number 50 with 174K
Two more pages of PS3 games follow.

For the Xbox 360...
The Simpsons Game is at number 50 with 454K
Four more pages of Xbox 360 games follow.

I don't say this to bash the PS3, but worldwide and American sales clearly label it as "weak" saleswise, not the Wii.

BeaArthur5838d ago

KingJFS...Again he is referring to overall sales for the console not isolated games. We'll jsut have to disagree on this one. I'm talking about the crappy games no one buys, not the Zelda's and Mario's.

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Voiceofreason5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

Lot of incorrect stuff in that article, or just outright spin. Just pulled up VGchatz and noticed that SSBB was number 1...yeah being the number 1 selling game is really something to be worried about.Also the last official thing I read had GH3 on Wii outselling all other versions of the game and thats will a recall. I guess he missed the part where they lost 6 weeks of sales for shipping with mono sound.Hell just looking at th NPD for game sales shows he is completely wrong "Over the first three months of the year, only three other Wii titles broke the list of top 10 best-selling games compiled by the NPD Group, a market research firm: Super Mario Galaxy, Guitar Hero III and Wii Play," I think he needs to actually read the NPD data. Jan has 5 Wii games in the top 10. Feb has 4 and MArch as 5 again.. When you consider the 360,PS3,DS, and PSP are all trying to have games there getting 5 of them isnt a bad thing at all.

PS360WII5838d ago

not to meantion last NPD results shows 1 Wii game selling more then all PS3 software for the month... just sayin

Xiru5838d ago

Think about the install base though, Wii has almost 24 million consoles in homes. 360 is 18 million and still gives the Wii a run for its money in software. The best selling Wii games are also casual games, aside from the 1st party games. Taken in context, the 360 sells a broader range of games than the Wii, and the Wii has a bigger install base.

Voiceofreason5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

Let me give it to you another way...... Number of 360's in US 11,498,994:Number of Wii's in the US 10,350,259:
Yearly software sales for 360=16,431,522: Yearly sales for Wii software
16,052,740. Even with a million console lead the 360 is only outselling the Wii in software by 430k. You can pull a certain number off just to make the 360 look better like pulling the top 20 only and making it look bad but do the whole top 50 and Wii comes out on top every time. Also notice from your own list that GH3 for Wii is higher on that list than GH3 for 360.. Of 22 games on Wii that all sold over 1 million 9 of them are 3rd party. So again dude you are wrong.You seriously need to look into this stuff more before you speak. If 9 3rd party games have all sold over 1 million on WIi then it isnt just the first party stuff thats selling.

Xiru5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

K, just to prove to you that 360 is selling more per week, here is the list of last weeks top 20 games. The 360 has 7 games in the top 20, Wii has 6. Of the 6 Wii games, 5 are 1st party. Care to tell me that 360 isn't selling more 3rd party games again?

Top 20 for this week:
1)Smash - Wii
2)Wii Sports - Wii
3)Cod4 - 360
4)Wii Play - Wii
5)Vegas 2 - 360
6)Crisis Core - PSP
7)Army of Two - 360
8)More Brain Training - DS
9)Galaxy - Wii
10)GH3 - Wii
11)New Super Mario - DS
12)Rock Band - 360
13)Dark Sector - 360
14)Cod4 - PS3
15)Mario Party - DS
16)Pokemon - DS
17)GH3 - 360
18)GoW - PSP
19)MLB 2k8 - 360
20)Links Crossbow training - Wii

Also, total software sales were:

360: 837,860
Wii: 766,150

Oh and on the topic of 1 million more 360's in the US than Wii, how do we know that 1 million people aren't waiting for their 360 to come back from having RRoD? :) 30% of 10 mil = 3 million.

PS360WII5838d ago

so Xiru are you saying 1st party doesn't count? Close numbers considering that the 360 has more units in US.

Xiru5838d ago

I'm just saying, that MS is selling more software all around. Nintendo is only selling 1st party. Which is typical of ANY Nintendo system. And I believe it will stay this way.

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raWfodog3d ago

“Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Has Reportedly Sold About Half of What FF7 Remake Did in the Same Timeframe”

Makes sense to me since the current PS5 base is about half of what the PS4 base was when FFVII Remake released.

There were about 113 million PS4’s in consumers hands worldwide in 2020 when FFVII Remake was released (towards the beginning of COVID lockdown no less).

PS5 sales currently sits at about half of that (50-something million. We are not in COVID lockdown so many people are not as bored as they were 4 years ago and not in a rush to buy every video game coming out at release. Some PS4 owners may not have upgraded to PS5 yet and therefore can’t buy the sequel yet. And, of course, some who played Remake just might not be interested in Rebirth.

It just seems pretty disingenuous for an analyst to ‘analyze’ a situation when there are so many mitigating and unequal factors involved.

OtterX3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Yes, this and also finishing part 1 of the Final Fantasy Remake trilogy weighs heavily on it too. There's always a huge percentage of gamers who never finish the games they purchase. It's not always due to lack of enjoyment, but also life priorities etc. But factor that into the knowledge that Rebirth is a straight continuation of the story, and enjoyment lies heavily on having finished the first, you can begin to understand why not as many players jumped in. But absolutely too, the lesser install base of the PS5 played a huge role!

jjb19812d ago

I started the game when it came out, played about 2/3 of the way through and finished the rest in the last month before rebirth came out. There are just too many games and too much adulting to do.

Eonjay1d 14h ago

It sold about half... with about half as many PS5s available as PS4 had when it launched in 2020. So... the tie ratio is about the same. As PS5s continue to sale it should eventually match Remake. It's a really good game.

fr0sty1d 12h ago

I think there's going to be another wave of buyers that purchase the game once the third part of the trilogy is released, especially if they release it as a bundle.

jambola2d ago

Excuse me sir
Industry analyst Daniel Ahmad said this 🙄

Obscure_Observer2d ago

"Industry analyst Daniel Ahmad said this 🙄"

That guy is director of research & insights at Niko Partners.

https://nikopartners.com/

But he shouldn´t be trusted according to some "trust me bro" N4G random. Smh

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Barlos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Obscure Observer, so by your logic, we should also trust Pachter? Come on, it's like you're not even trying any more.

MrNinosan1d 17h ago

@Obscure
"We cover China, Chinese Taipei, Egypt, India, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Philippines, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, South Korea, Thailand, United Arab Emirates, and Vietnam."

Yepp, very trusted and the biggest areas for videogame sales.

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Tody_ZA2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@raWfodog You'd think an analyst would catch these facts, but just goes to show what gaming analysts are made of. We've only in the last year moved to PS5 only games, in addition to the install base cross-gen has been around for years. There are a lot of PS4 players still over there. It's amazing when people compare things whilst isolating all the significant facts.

And Rebirth being a direct sequel is also valid: anecdotally, I've just started FF7 Remake a week ago and I'm loving it, on Chapter 8, but I'm obviously not going to buy Rebirth until I complete the story which will take time.

Ironmike1d 14h ago

But it's hasn't sold as much the articles om Google stating bit so what if it hasn't the game is still great better than remake which tailed of in middle-of-the- game

TheEroica1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Apologists always know what to say... 👍
Is it possible to squeeze in one more excuses for FF7 sales? Go for it!

Tody_ZA1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

@TheEroica Understand the meaning of the words you use or don't use them. An apologist argues in defense of something controversial or problematic. Pointing out relevant facts that an analysis or article did not take into account is constructive feedback and discussion. There are great movies, games and other forms of art that don't sell as expected, but later gain financial success.

Example? The Godfather Part 2 underperformed financially compared to its predecessor but is widely hailed as one of the greatest films and sequels of all time and is still influential to this day. And no, I'm not comparing Final Fantasy 7 to the Godfather, before you draw that strawman. There is one loose similarity however in that Rebirth is also overwhelmingly acclaimed and considered superior to the first.

Given the decision to split Final Fantasy VII into three separate games, of which Rebirth released exclusively for PS5 leaving the PS4 install base behind, and the final installment due in 2027, the sales performance is a bit more of a conversation than you're trying to make it out to be.

Crows901d 17h ago

Didn't even mention price increases across the board for all games...this causes all people to be more picky and limit game purchases

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GoodGuy093d ago

Unfortunate but it's the reality of sequels. And I simply just don't hear much people talk about rebirth and even remake as these titles just seem too hard to get into with many newcomers and old fans that are upset with the many changes.

Eonjay1d 13h ago

The games are really good and both acclaimed and Rebirth is even better than Remake with a 90+ metascore but if you don't want to 'hear' the praise... you probably wont.

TheProfessional1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

It's kind of ridiculous how some people here are just making stuff up to explain the low sales. Just because you bought the game and you like it doesn't mean it sold better than it did. Same with FFXVI.

rpvenom1d 5h ago

For me its cause now that i know it releases on pc.. id rather play it with mods on my pc than my ps5

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gold_drake2d ago

well, according to some other reports, it had 2.1 mio. players in the first week.

so, who to believe now.

ZeekQuattro2d ago

It's safe to say if it sold that Square would of made a sales milestone announcement like they did with past FF entries or other IPs in general. They did a FF16 sales update within 2 weeks after it launched for instance.

gold_drake2d ago

there is no way this game hasnt already sold more than remake.

there doesnt need to be an announcement for everything, especially not if they released several updates amd the ultimania.

people are too obsessed with sales

CrimsonWing692d ago

I think there’s a reason we haven’t seen a celebratory tweet from Square on the sales. It came out on Feb. 29th and it’s Apr. 13th right now… that ain’t a good sign. I think this one can reach 3 mill at some point but will be behind Remake, which when it comes to business, that ain’t good.

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Strange headline, as I thought the star of the show was Super RType. I almost bought RType Dimensions EX this last month and was just thinking, man I wish we had the SNES one somewhere on Switch. That's where I got my start w the series and I was beyond excited to see it drop this week!