Modern Warfare 3 Dual Scopes Revealed

"Although Infinity Ward Community Manager Robert Bowling has made mention of the addition of dual scopes in the past, we’ve yet to see any footage showing off the long-awaited feature for Modern Warfare 3 in action. Well, that has just changed."

[doctorstrange]

Nice

[NJShadow]

Pretty cool addition. Definitely adds a bit more realism.

[Tank_Commander_E6]

well it's going to need a f**king sh*t ton more if it hopes to contend against the mighty BF3 this holiday season.

[PoulCast]

The "Mighty" BF3 which presucessor sold 15million units less than the presuccessor of Black Ops? :)

[Tank_Commander_E6]

Well I think now that it's on two additional platforms this time around it might just do a little bit better. But do I think it will do better numbers than BlOps did... who knows, maybe.

[CaptCalvin]

Wow is this kind of feature so major it needs to be "revealed?" This is the kinda stuff modders have been modding into their games years before...

[evrfighter1]

ingame chat system!!!

[maverick1191]

meh tbh nothing im hearing or seeing in videos (yes i know its early to judge) but from the e3 video it all looked like mw2 but redone it brought nothing new when i see online i will make my decision i hope the online will be greatly improved

black ops improved the online so much with the customization alone

[artdafoo]

That must be the upgrade in the tired 2005 game engine he's been hyping. Lol.

From his twitter:

" fourzerotwo Robert Bowling
@TheGhostSix Of course, the game is improved year after year. Look at the leap from COD2 to COD4 to MW2 to
Black Ops. Always building. 5 hours ago

LMAOF, Dude are you serious right now ?! The last major improvement in COD was from COD3 to COD4, from then on it's been nothing but a new coat of paint on the same old 2004 car.

[PoulCast]

Why are you denying the success of CoD? MW & BO was the best selling FPS of all times and yet people find time to sit and mock it because their favorite FPS isn't as successfull? What a life you have....

MW2 was a major improvement in both Call of Duty and FPS in general. They made some stupid moves around their PC release and they had internal problems with their lead designers, so ofcourse the game was maintained as well as it should have been. They tried something new with IW.NET, it didn't work out as well as it should have, it was still the best selling FPS ever. To this day, there are as many people playing MW2 as there are people playing Black Ops, which are more than people playing CoD4. Obviously, the game has done something right, to earn this amount of copies sold and the amount of hours of playtime.

How can you say CoD4 was a leap? The game was unplayable for months, the release was more broken than Black Ops, but ofcourse you are too young to actually know that, as you just spit out whatever some "pro" told you.

Patethic really, but I guess that's how some people like to live, spitting on things they dislike, just for the sake of gaining their own favorite some breathing room.

[jozzah]

He never denied it selling heaps. He just stated the truthful fact that cod is pretty much a rehash of the small old thing every time the new one comes out. COD 4 was the last good game in the series.

[antz1104]

LMAO, there definately have been changes noticable to people actually playing it who enjoy it over the past few installments. Saying its the same game since 2004 is just ignorant.

Beyond all the various types of matches available, most notable and important to me is the points system BLOPS introduced. The story and graphics in that installment were sh%t, but the points system was soooo much better than having to get 750 kills with a weapon to unlock a thermal scope.

Hopefully MW3 is a good culmination of all the positive aspects of each previous game.

[tacticalcity]

For gun guys like myself, listening to the author and his readers discuss the “dual scope” feature in the upcoming Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 video game is extremely frustrating. About as frustrating as listening to your non-computer literate grandma try and educate one of her even more non-computer literate friends on how to burn a DVD would be for you. The complete lack of understanding about all things gun, and miss use of terms is frustrating beyond words.

First of all, it is not “dual scope”. There is not even a single scope on the rifle, much less two. What it is a normal EoTech Red Dot “Sight” (not scope) with an EoTech 3x (pronounced three power) “Magnifier” (not scope) mounted behind it in a “flip-to-side” mount. This is a very common setup amongst military, law enforcement and gun enthusiasts.

It solves a flaw we discovered during the gulf war when the ACOG became so popular. Magnification is great on the open battlefield. It allows you to make shots at 300 yards with ease while not making it difficult to make shots within 100 yards. However, at CQB distances within 15 yards, like those you encounter when clearing a house for example, magnification can cause problems. You loose both detail and speed in your reaction times. It starts playing tricks on your eyes and your mind. All of which can get you killed.

The Red Dot is the ideal optic for combat within 0-100 yards. The 4x ACOG is the ideal optic for combat 100-300 yards or more. By adding a 3x flip-to-side magnifier, you bridge the gap.

The use of a flip-to-side magnified in combination with a red dot is not a perfect solution however, and has many critics. For one thing it is heavy. For another it increases the dot to a point that it makes seeing long distance targets harder to hit.

A similar solution is to mount a small red dot on top of an ACOG or SCOPE. The problem with that concept is that you run into height over bore issues that make it less effective for CQB. Basically that means the closer the bad guy is you to the more the dot is no longer where the bullet will go because of how high it is mounted.

The latest solution is to have a variable power scope ranging from 1-4 power mounted as you normally would, and a small micro red dot mounted to the hand guard at an angle. That way if you are currently set at a higher power and taking long distance shots, and suddenly a bad guy surprises you and ends up right in front of you, you can simply twist the rifle just a small amount and engage him using the micro red dot. This type of setup originate in the competition world and is extremely popular.

None of these solutions are perfect, and therefore there is a lot of argument over which is best.