Sigh, console gamers need to understand, one of the reasons Activision doesnt want to create a new engine is because Console tech is too old.
Sure they can create a new engine but then they wont be able to hit 60fps. People like COD because its about the only First person shooter on console that does 60fps. There really isnt another shooter asides Halo that can run at 60fps and supports 18 people in combat. Even then both the games run in Sub 720p.
Now before someone throws talks about some odd game doing 60fps on console, the key word here is First person shooter. First person shooter is the most demanding of any genere.
Now activision probably wants to stick to the 60fps formula. If they do upgrade the engine (graphics) they wont be able to stick to 60fps not on console atleast. Note how even Sonys own Killzone which claims to use max of the PS3 can barely do 30fps.
Hence If console gamers are going to whine about a new engine, they should first be thinking how 6 years old hardware will perform on a new engine. Clearly activision want to maintain the smooth 60fps experience which wont be possible on current consoles.
So yea you wanna blame something for not getting any progress in Cod for the last 5 years, blame the old tech.
Lastly console gamers are buying into the same crap year on year anyways, so why should activision change anything?
@the disagree
Go on name a firstperson shooter on console that actually looks good and runs at 60fps... There is none.
If i recall Rage had the worst case of texture pop in on any platform. If looked closely the textures were low res even on the PC version, specially when you walked closely to any object. Things look fine in the distance, however upclose its all low res.
Huh... another COD... the only reason I would ever consider buying a COD game is to play zombies with friends... but if not, I just ignore it completely.
The one FPS on my radar this year is Bioshock Infinite..but thats it. Getting annoyed with the FPS genre.. Bioshock is the game that makes me go 0_0
It's because Bioshock feels so much more than a FPS, something Call of Duty has never had. I only play the Modern Warfares for the online, but even now I'm pretty sure I won't be buying the next Modern Warfare because of how bad MW3 is. Though I have a few FPSs I'm looking forward to: Borderlands 2, Bioshock Infinite, Crysis 3 and perhaps maybe Far Cry 3, Metro Last Light and Medal of Honor Warfighter... I'm getting a bit tired of the genre still.
Just wondering, but why do people care about the announcement? It's guaranteed to come out, so it's not like it's a surprise... I'm just not seeing what the big deal is.
All three of them that are closer to real games are. All other 8.9 Million will hear about it when it comes out, then buy it like zombies without brains, because they basically are. And they will also tell themselves it's amazing, new, and they hopefully will realize they're 100% wrong.
"All three of them that are closer to real games are. All other 8.9 Million will hear about it when it comes out, then buy it like zombies without brains, because they basically are. And they will also tell themselves it's amazing, new, and they hopefully will realize they're 100% wrong."
Excuse me waiter? I have a table? Bitter, party of one?
I doubt current gen consoles could handle a new engine and still run the game at 60fps. Save the new engine for the next gen and just do some new maps, new perks, a bit of new art and sell it for $40 new.
That would be my plan, but i'm not a video game exec and my opinion doesn't matter. I just hope it turns out to be fun.
Don't care. Can people please stop feeding the call of duty machine?
That franchise is getting away with murder making the same damn game year in year out. It's single handedly made made the fps genre completely stale, and if we let it continue to churn out this shit the whole genre will just end up rotting and smelling really bad. Lay off the fps' for a while until someone comes up with a fresher experience.
Yea Treyarch always changes the way COD plays. Like WAW had the dogs, dismemberment, classic guns, bouncing betty, ZOMBIEZ!!, secret easter eggs worth finding.
Then BLOPS had the Upgraded ZOMBIEZ!!, Fun story, Best Map Structure, FIR3 BR3ATH lol, had to EARN kills.
MW3 feels the same as MW2 in ALL aspects of the game. Just new some new Perks, Weapons, Killstreaks, Maps. Not game changing.
Hoping that BLOPS 2 will innovate again. Especially ZOMBIEZ!!
they should change the zombies engine a bit XP i'd love to see some hit detection(flinching) and a new way to make it more challenging other than giving them ridiculous amounts of health. some sort of rpg element and customization of your character would be nice too ^^"
Why the hell everyone be Hatin on Back ops??? I mean, I thought it was the Bomb! Then again every game on the PC is always about 98x better then console games.
Doesn't matter which platform. COD could be the best looking game ever, and still be just as crappy as it is now.
Graphics =/= good game. Physics on the other hand, can dramatically change the experience. Along with new game modes, getting rid of "quick-scoping," , fixing knives, and having dedicated servers along with higher player counts on larger maps would make it a ton better.
There is not a knife that I have ever seen that would be faster than a bullet. If you are walking/running through a hallway, and someone is directly in front of you with a knife while you are carrying an assault rifle, LMG, or SMG, I am pretty sure you could squeeze the trigger before being knifed. Even if you were to get stabbed, while shooting someone in the head, I am pretty sure bullets to the face would win that.
There is not nothing "modern" about that "warfare."
At least change the name to Super Unrealistic Knife of Duty.
Also, what is the point of kill streaks? They only reward the better players.
I have gotten quite a few nukes in MW2, but it always felt so cheap to me. In fact, just about every killstreak in the game is ridiculously cheap.
The very concept of the killstreak encourages camping. Hide in a corner, and wait for people to walk by and either knife them, or kill them with ghost and a silenced weapon. Rinse, repeat until getting enough kills to release a cheap killstreak.
Or noob tube them into oblivion.
In other fps's I don't worry about an imaginary number called a K/D ratio. Getting a lot of kills does not make you the best player.
For instance, in objective gametypes, I tend to die a lot, but I am always the one getting the flag/capture point/bomb, what have ya, and if I wasn't there sacrificing myself, a lot of those types of games would never have been won.
The K/D thing I stated was more of a community driven thing, but it is the stat that has not been taken out yet that contributes to the obsession of the K/D.
Like it or hate it, it is here to stay until something comes and dethrones it like Skate did to TH. Also like Rock Band did to Guitar Hero.
HELL YEAH COD FOR LIFE...DONT CHANGE THE ENGINE KEEP IT THE SAME FOREVEERRRRR...CANT WAIT TO CAMP IT OUT EVERYWHERE...I HOPE THEY MAKE AN ELITE FOR BLACK OPS 2 BECAUSE I WILL PAY UP TO $100.00 FOR IT ....HELL YEAH
They won't stop rehashing the same old rubbish until people stop buying. clearly those buying are not sick of it. I haven't owned a CoD game since MW2 and I technically didn't even own that (you can fill in the blanks). How many people here can say they didn't get Black Ops and MW3?
I've never played any CoD. I've played Doom and Portal 2.
Guess you could say I'm not really a huge fan of the FPS.
"So why are you here then?"
Because a few people I know are huge CoD fans. I send them the info. And in return they send me stuff about cheesy science fiction and other FPSs. Nice guys. I send you stuff that interests you, And you reply by sending me other stuff that interests you. Dig up something about Android 4 or Assassin's Creed 3. I don't care about Lexx, Bioshock, or Runescape.
@ decrypt " Sigh, console gamers need to understand, one of the reasons Activision doesnt want to create a new engine is because Console tech is too old "
No they wont do a new engine cuz that would mean no 6+ million sales every November for at least two years minimum. Money is bottom line here kids, not making the best looking or best playing game every year. Yea they will not do a new engine now that the new consoles are already on the horizon but they sure as hell could of done it right after W@W and did MW2 the right way. Let's not fool ourselves, Oh and I fully expect to them to do use a modified version of their current engine for all COD games for PS4 and 720. But I highly doubt they'll be making a brand spanking new engine for next gen consoles. They have no interest taking their shit to the next level and their history proves it.
oh yay another game from activision which people will say they won't buy but end up forking out another 70 bucks for the same game they buy every year.
It get's hyped out of proportion every year. The strange thing is even when I don't have money and when I don't even care(MW3) to get the newest Cod someone ends up buying it for me :/ Is that just the statistics of someone owning a Cod?
And people will eat it up.
Sure they can create a new engine but then they wont be able to hit 60fps. People like COD because its about the only First person shooter on console that does 60fps. There really isnt another shooter asides Halo that can run at 60fps and supports 18 people in combat. Even then both the games run in Sub 720p.
Now before someone throws talks about some odd game doing 60fps on console, the key word here is First person shooter. First person shooter is the most demanding of any genere.
Now activision probably wants to stick to the 60fps formula. If they do upgrade the engine (graphics) they wont be able to stick to 60fps not on console atleast. Note how even Sonys own Killzone which claims to use max of the PS3 can barely do 30fps.
Hence If console gamers are going to whine about a new engine, they should first be thinking how 6 years old hardware will perform on a new engine. Clearly activision want to maintain the smooth 60fps experience which wont be possible on current consoles.
So yea you wanna blame something for not getting any progress in Cod for the last 5 years, blame the old tech.
Lastly console gamers are buying into the same crap year on year anyways, so why should activision change anything?
@the disagree
Go on name a firstperson shooter on console that actually looks good and runs at 60fps... There is none.
Also Rage never had MP with lot of people.
The one FPS on my radar this year is Bioshock Infinite..but thats it. Getting annoyed with the FPS genre.. Bioshock is the game that makes me go 0_0
It looks incredible.
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borderlands 2....will take 150-200 hrs for me
bioshock....will take 25-30 hrs
farcry3....will take me 20 plus hrs
aliens game from gearbox....must buy
so i have 4 FPS for this fall season just like all the other COD games i will avoid this one too.
after MW1 i have yet to buy another one
spec ops the line
max payne 3
2 3rd person shooters for me
Excuse me waiter? I have a table? Bitter, party of one?
That would be my plan, but i'm not a video game exec and my opinion doesn't matter. I just hope it turns out to be fun.
That franchise is getting away with murder making the same damn game year in year out. It's single handedly made made the fps genre completely stale, and if we let it continue to churn out this shit the whole genre will just end up rotting and smelling really bad. Lay off the fps' for a while until someone comes up with a fresher experience.
Don't freakin' care, they not getting a single red cent from me on their $hit.
but I think Treyarch has the potential and balls to "change it up"
at least wait til gameplay reveal
Activision?
How can it not be.
Tweet was removed... but its legit. BLOPS 2
( IMO ) still my favorite.
I will def give these guys a listen and a look.
Then BLOPS had the Upgraded ZOMBIEZ!!, Fun story, Best Map Structure, FIR3 BR3ATH lol, had to EARN kills.
MW3 feels the same as MW2 in ALL aspects of the game. Just new some new Perks, Weapons, Killstreaks, Maps. Not game changing.
Hoping that BLOPS 2 will innovate again. Especially ZOMBIEZ!!
If not BF3 it is. I love this game.
Graphics =/= good game. Physics on the other hand, can dramatically change the experience. Along with new game modes, getting rid of "quick-scoping," , fixing knives, and having dedicated servers along with higher player counts on larger maps would make it a ton better.
There is not a knife that I have ever seen that would be faster than a bullet. If you are walking/running through a hallway, and someone is directly in front of you with a knife while you are carrying an assault rifle, LMG, or SMG, I am pretty sure you could squeeze the trigger before being knifed. Even if you were to get stabbed, while shooting someone in the head, I am pretty sure bullets to the face would win that.
There is not nothing "modern" about that "warfare."
At least change the name to Super Unrealistic Knife of Duty.
Also, what is the point of kill streaks? They only reward the better players.
I have gotten quite a few nukes in MW2, but it always felt so cheap to me. In fact, just about every killstreak in the game is ridiculously cheap.
The very concept of the killstreak encourages camping. Hide in a corner, and wait for people to walk by and either knife them, or kill them with ghost and a silenced weapon. Rinse, repeat until getting enough kills to release a cheap killstreak.
Or noob tube them into oblivion.
In other fps's I don't worry about an imaginary number called a K/D ratio. Getting a lot of kills does not make you the best player.
For instance, in objective gametypes, I tend to die a lot, but I am always the one getting the flag/capture point/bomb, what have ya, and if I wasn't there sacrificing myself, a lot of those types of games would never have been won.
The K/D thing I stated was more of a community driven thing, but it is the stat that has not been taken out yet that contributes to the obsession of the K/D.
Like it or hate it, it is here to stay until something comes and dethrones it like Skate did to TH. Also like Rock Band did to Guitar Hero.
Lets hope this year other games have a chance, but I doubt it. *sigh*
The only game capable of disrupting BO's sales is Halo 4. That will be getting my money.
If he is serious, kill it with fire.
Guess you could say I'm not really a huge fan of the FPS.
"So why are you here then?"
Because a few people I know are huge CoD fans. I send them the info. And in return they send me stuff about cheesy science fiction and other FPSs. Nice guys. I send you stuff that interests you, And you reply by sending me other stuff that interests you. Dig up something about Android 4 or Assassin's Creed 3. I don't care about Lexx, Bioshock, or Runescape.
Lazy bums.
" Sigh, console gamers need to understand, one of the reasons Activision doesnt want to create a new engine is because Console tech is too old "
No they wont do a new engine cuz that would mean no 6+ million sales every November for at least two years minimum. Money is bottom line here kids, not making the best looking or best playing game every year. Yea they will not do a new engine now that the new consoles are already on the horizon but they sure as hell could of done it right after W@W and did MW2 the right way. Let's not fool ourselves, Oh and I fully expect to them to do use a modified version of their current engine for all COD games for PS4 and 720. But I highly doubt they'll be making a brand spanking new engine for next gen consoles.
They have no interest taking their shit to the next level and their history proves it.
MW
Price: SOAP!!! SOAP!! SOAP! SOAP!! SOAP!! SOAP!
Mw2
Soap: ROACH!!! ROACH!! ROACH! ROACH!! ROACH!! ROACH!
BLOps
Woods: MASON!!! MASON!! MASON! MASON!! MASON!!
MW3
*LOOK MW*
BLOps2
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