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LOGICWINS  +   1623d ago
Guess that means map pack prices will go up now that Activision knows that theres is a huge demand for them.
fluffydelusions  +   1623d ago
Doubt it. They catch enough shit for the current pricing model. Can't picture them being bold enough to raise it even more but then again...
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-Alpha  +   1623d ago
The price has never been different to the content.

For 3 maps they charged $10
For 5 maps they charged $15

If they were to raise the price to $20, then they'd include 2 more maps.

Even though $15-$20 for DLC in the timespan of one year for like 4 DLC packs sounds expensive for most gamers, a lot of people just play COD exclusively and Activision is going to ride that pony until the end.
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theonlylolking  +   1622d ago
In W@W you got 4 maps for $10.
aGameDeveloper  +   1622d ago | Funny
In Soviet Russia, maps got YOU.
M_Prime  +   1622d ago
lol @aGameDeveloper

well said man
Ares84  +   1622d ago
I'm guilty in buying Map packs!!! Now I only buy them for the zombie map. I wish they would sell that separately but they won't since no one would buy the other maps by themselves.

As for MW3, I will not buy it so I will not buy any of it's DLC either.
WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   1622d ago
Speaking of map packs, it's funny all these COD killers don't even provide half the content that COD provides to their fans.
DaTruth  +   1622d ago
My friends hardly play games and practically never play online! I think I would buy almost any game if my friends would play with me online!

I have friends who would surf through random Facebook profiles for hours and barely play their consoles! I know there's no accounting for taste, but WTF!
flankhim  +   1622d ago
Take that BF FAN BOYS!
jeseth  +   1622d ago
From the point of a PS3 gamer that doesn't pay for online play...

COD and its map packs are not very expensive when you break it down. I know COD is not for everyone on this site but I put over 20 days into MW2 online with my friends. I paid $60 bucks plus $30 for map packs... so $90 bucks for 480 hours of gaming.

Thats 18 Cents and hour! Where else can you entertain yourself for 18 cents an hour?

I know people hate on COD and it is deserving of criticism, but I do enjoy it with my friends and we have fun. So a $90 dollar investment for that kind of replay is worth it. Especially when I'll also by awesome SP games like God of War and inFamous and be done with the campaign in 12 hours or so. So to me its just all a convenient way to take cheap shots at COD.
bakasora  +   1622d ago
Increase the game to $120, hardcore COD fan will still buy it.
iamnsuperman  +   1623d ago
possibly. I think the best way is to up it by 5 but add something small to make it seem like a better deal. In a way the amount of map packs releasing or Black Ops hints at same price but more frequent map packs
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LOGICWINS  +   1623d ago
"Doubt it. They catch enough shit for the current pricing model"

No, the "shit" you hear predominantly occurs on the Internet within informed gamer hubs such as N4G. Given the 18 million map packs sold in the first nine months, its pretty obvious that not too many people in the outside world are bitching about the price.
raWfodog  +   1623d ago
This is what I keep trying to get across to people who wonder why publishers keep releasing the 'same game' year after year. If there is an obvious demand for the game and tons of people keep buying it, why wouldn't you keep putting it out?

That's common business sense, old supply and demand at work. In no way is this stating Sales = Quality. It just means a lot of people wanted to play a familiar game that they enjoyed.
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gamingdroid  +   1623d ago
I don't even see an issue with the entire thing of releasing the same thing (although I disagree that it isn't the same thing).

One could almost argue that all shooters are the same thing or heck, that all video games are the same thing. They all work on a screen don't they for entertainment?

If people want it, let them have it.

It really is an elitist attitude.
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sikbeta  +   1622d ago
Market is definitely there, so they can exploit it the way they want, by looking at these numbers, they pretty much has covered the FPS market-field and will do until COD loss its "charm" or whatever it is that makes +20m people buy the damned games, the same way Capcom kind of found a market for their Super-Ultra-Gold rehashes with added content compared to their normal releases, kind of the GOTY Edition of games, but without being GOTY :P
jspc1989  +   1622d ago
I dunno, perhaps it's my age (and i'm only 22), but just recently I seem to be going off FPS's can have too much of a good thing. That's not to say they don't look good, i think MW3 and BF3 look very good in both of their respective ways.....but of all the games in my shopping list this fall, neither of these are one of them (and I have a pc capable or running BF3).

Funnily enough aside from my Ultimate Metal Gear Solid HD collection my two other most anticipated games are Skyrim (shocking eh!) and Catherine.

But back to the article, those are some immense numbers! There maybe people who don't like Activision as a publisher and may dislike the CoD games, but noone can deny they're obviously doing something right! And i'm not self righteous enough to be telling people how to spend their time - everyone's entitled to do what they enjoy!

Only thing that bugs me and it's quite a major thing is, the stereotype CoD player is the 13 year old boy running his mouth (don't flame me, i only said the stereotype not all or even the majority) - and most of the CoD games are 16+....i've never seen such group ignorance of an age rating of any product anywhere else! It's CoD so noone bats an eyelid lol.
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DaTruth  +   1622d ago
Me too! I have own both Resistance games and am not even anticipating the third game! On top of that, I can't even play through the campaigns again, and I play all my games multiple times!

I just feel burnt out on FPS's, like the whole format isn't doing it for me anymore and developers can't seem to find anything new to do with it!

I'm almost turned off of Skyrim, just because it's in the first person! Maybe I'll hold out until I get a capable PC and there's a third person mod!
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ForTheFallen  +   1622d ago
"obviously doing something right"
Popular? Surely. Right? Debatable.
What do you call it when a product has a stranglehold on a market and uses that influence to force people to pay higher prices for something that they shouldn't have to pay that much for?
Oh yeah, a monopoly. A manipulative, greedy monopoly.
jspc1989  +   1622d ago
@ForTheFallen - The issue is in this example there are ALOT of alternatives. Noone is forcing anyone to pay for anything, people are doing it because they want to, not because they don't have a say in the matter.

And popular for the general masses may not equal good for you or I, but it obviously does for them, as they're the ones that keep buying it, and i'm sure when they're finally sick of it, they will stop buying it. I know alot of people who game casually who buy it, and they're far from being idiots.
2v1  +   1622d ago
THIS GAMEis like $57 use at game stop and has been like that since release.....Patcher is right mw3 will sell more than bf3.10 to 1 ratio
zeddy  +   1622d ago
this wont happen again, black ops is horse shit and i'll never trust treyarch with a game again.
StanLee  +   1622d ago
Dude, give it a rest. Say you wont buy another Call of Duty game and you know what, you're the minority. I heard the same silliness before Black Ops was released about Modern Warfare 2. You wont buy it, cool, not need to tell anyone else your sob story.
ATi_Elite  +   1622d ago
and Zeddy is posting this from his tent while camped out in front of Best Buy with a sign that reads.....

"I'm gonna be the first kid on my block with a MW3 Kill"

KRUSSIDULL  +   1622d ago
I only buy the standalone game for 40$ on the supermarket on release. I know there is a CoD next year more worth waiting for that than buy map packs.
sak500  +   1622d ago

That's no excuse. I've made quite few friends while playing online games. Either they like my gaming skills and add me or prob hate me for pawning them and then they ask to friend me. Whatever LOL.

If your current friends dont share the same hobby you can have more friends who do :D

OT: I only bought one map pack for MW2 and never again. Had bought before for BF2142 and BF2 though on PC.
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DA_SHREDDER  +   1622d ago
you pay for the map packs? lmao!
Godmars290  +   1623d ago
And this why we will only see more overpriced map packs: because they make money and people are stupid enough to buy them.

And as someone not into COD, I have to deal with a market that carters to it more and more.
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iamnsuperman  +   1623d ago
Stupid or the only thing they want to play. I can see if all you want to do it play COD with your friends buying these map packs isn't so bad. They miss out on so many games but these people are happy enough to have a session after school/work and that is all they have time for and that is all there friends do
raWfodog  +   1623d ago
So you assume that everyone who bought the maps only plays COD and no other games...


So with that same reasoning, are you saying that buyers of DLC only play that game for which they bought the DLC? I'm trying to understand the reasoning in your comment.
Chocoboh  +   1622d ago
speaking of buying map packs to play with friends you can actually share the map pack download cost or w/e with your friends and share it with them

I've done it with a few games now
-Alpha  +   1623d ago
Don't blame the rest of the market for COD. As annoying as it is to see COD be so huge and do so little, it doesn't mean that you can't completely ignore it.

If other devs are trying to be like COD, that's not Activision's fault. What annoys me more than COD's silly success is devs who try to be like COD and then fans who decide to blame COD instead
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sikbeta  +   1622d ago
Exactly, devs can't go against COD, devs can't share the COD success by making their own FPS trying to be like COD, it's like the third party support on the wii, every dev tried to replicate Nintendo games to achieve the same success, FAILED, moved to the HD consoles and start chasing COD sales by making military-based FPS games, FAILED ... now, moving to mobile devices like smartphones and tablets to replicate Angry Birds success and we all know how its gonna end :P
iNMyFiN4LH0uR  +   1622d ago
why is CODs success "annoying" or "silly"?
raWfodog  +   1623d ago
Yeah, I'm not understanding how people are 'stupid' for buying a product that they obviously want. I'm sure you have made some purchases in your life that others wouldn't but no one could call you stupid for it. You had the money and it was something you wanted, right?
gamingdroid  +   1623d ago
Well said!

In fact, quality is pretty subjective when it comes to games and calling others "stupid" for buying something is rather immature in my opinion.
Skateboard  +   1623d ago
I just buy the game not the DLC.
TheRag  +   1622d ago
YES!! Thank you!!!
seems like we're a dying species.. :x
allyc4t  +   1623d ago
And this is why Activision releases a new CoD every year. It's easy money.
nitrogav  +   1623d ago
I was`nt one of the 23 million !!
MasterCornholio  +   1623d ago
Impressive but no big surprise.
Fishy Fingers  +   1623d ago
Yep, they got their money out of me, every DLC map pack. But then, I have over 450 hours in Black Ops, so really, thats pretty damn good value for money.

To each their own. A concept many seem to struggle with.
Organization XII  +   1623d ago
Not a good way to spend 450 hours I tell you, you could have learned to play an instrument or banged chicks with that amount of time which i think is pretty ridiculous, whatever it's your life people.
dangert12  +   1623d ago
Gaming is playing an instrumental the sweet tone when you have unlocked a trophy or purchased for the ps store the patterns from the clicks of the button presses the menu effects sweet music to my ears cod though lol halo sfx are realistics then cods cods sound like something else ill get back to you when i know what they sound like its just not bullets and skulls
silvacrest  +   1623d ago
i agree but i think your thinking of that 450 hours in a lump while its more likely spread quite a bit

assuming he bought it in november thats 450 hours over 10 months

in comparison, watching 1 hours worth of TV a day for 10 months would equal many more hours but i bet we all exceed that without anyone making "your wasting your time" comments

just my thoughts
evrfighter  +   1622d ago
Get if you can get 450 hours out if a game it's easily justified. But from what I've seeing from the cod faithful here at work and my 9th grade brother and his friends that play cod religiously is that blackops is boring and they can't wait for bf3.

Only because they know they'll be crashin at my place for the weekend and enjoying bf3 in all it's glory as I keep my lan up to date for gaming.

I have blackops on my lan but their game of choice when they come over is bc2. I think slot of people are going to suprised
zeddy  +   1622d ago
i wish i could put all those cod hours into education but its not as easy as it might seem. i wish they would make a game to teach me maths or something and make it as appealing and as addictive.
postofficebuddy  +   1623d ago
The hell? The HD console install base wasn't 74 million back in December. It was almost 100 million.
meetajhu  +   1623d ago
23mill where shafted including me :/
Sevir04  +   1623d ago
>_> this is just sad!
Raven_Nomad  +   1623d ago
We'll see more sales then this for Modern Warfare 3. My guess is 26 million and probably 20 million map packs sold.

Battlefield who?

Also, I find it a bit humorous that Black Ops sold more map packs then both Bad Company games sold combined. That's a lot of growth in a short period of time. It's obvious people dig the COD.
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Skateboard  +   1623d ago
Hell yeah, I dig the COD.
TheRag  +   1622d ago
BF:BC2 had so many FREE map packs for those who pre-ordered the game so we didnt need to buy new maps.. only one i remember people actually paid for was Vietnam but that was A HUGE addition to the game..

correct me if im wrong, but thats what i remember...
MostJadedGamer  +   1622d ago
That is totally, and complete false. No way in the wold can MW3 outsell Black Ops. Battlefield 3 is going to take a HUGE chunk out of MW3 sales. I predict MW3 will sell 8 million less then Black Ops. dropping from 23 million to 15 million sales.

Having such a strong competior like BF3 will be very, very, very bad for MW3, and the COD franchise in general.
IM_A_NINJA  +   1622d ago
No offense, but didn't we hear that when Battlefield Bad Company 1 and 2 released? Same with Medal Of Honor? The Call Of Duty games have had steady growth with each game, the fact that Call Of Duty is heavily marketed towards console owners also helps them greatly.

Don't forget, Dice/EA is marketing BF3 mostly as a PC game. Now I'm withholding judgement on the game itself until I play it on a console, but it'd be a pretty ignorant statement to say Battlefield 3 is going to take anything from COD. Since they are marketed towards different types of players. I don't know many COD gamers who would like or be good at BF games and vice versa.
MostJadedGamer  +   1622d ago
"No offense, but didn't we hear that when Battlefield Bad Company 1 and 2 released? Same with Medal Of Honor? The Call Of Duty games have had steady growth with each game, the fact that Call Of Duty is heavily marketed towards console owners also helps them greatly."

No the hype for Battlefield 3 has been a 100 times greater then any other EA game. The situation is not at all comparable. It is quite obvious that the MW3 will have a HUGE drop in sales from Black Ops.
acquanemesisX  +   1622d ago
If this article is about COD, then why did you have all of a sudden mention BF3 and bash it?
Jack_DangerousIy  +   1622d ago
That's what he does. At least on all of the Battlefield articles. Look for him next time you're there. You'll see him.
MilkMan  +   1623d ago
This is pretty sad news.
Considering its like buying the game twice.
Except one time you get the a full game experience (if that's your thing) and the second time around, with all these map packs you pay another $60 to run around in a maze.

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SageHonor  +   1623d ago
Its funny because SOOO many people try to hate this game but it sells this much.
silvacrest  +   1623d ago
the people who are hating on this game (me included) are the minority, the majority are just playing (and apparently buying most of the DLC too)

but what they are definitely not doing is reading or commenting on these forums
MostJadedGamer  +   1622d ago
That is not true at all. The vast majority of gamers do NOT play COD.
TBM  +   1623d ago
As popular as this genre is I feel that its stagnanting the industry, its seems that's all these gamers what shooter, shooter, shooter. I only bought 1 map pack and that was back with MW1
AllroundGamer  +   1623d ago
and i bought... none :p but good to see there are a lot of sheep out there...
GoldPS3  +   1623d ago
Ridiculous. How can that many people be so brainwashed for this game? I just don't get it. I played Black Ops one day at my friends house and every match I played had lag switchers, glitchers, and little kids screaming profanity. COD is horrible online.

Anyway I'm sticking with KZ and BF. They have kids too but majority of them are mature. Plus I like bigger maps and riding vehicles.
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mcstorm  +   1623d ago
Well looks like there is no stopping the cod name but thats fine for me the more kids that buy cod games the better online expirence the core gamers get on games like halo bf forza gt kz ect. The sad news is cod has hurt alot of other ips as people are playing cod every year and only buying cod games every year.
Dlacy13g  +   1623d ago
Those are some insane numbers.
silvacrest  +   1623d ago
jesus.....23 mil? and 18 mil in DLC alone??

this may seem normal to most of you but i dont buy COD iterations, never have, never will, im not against FPS, i loved killzone/resistance but COD just doesnt do it for me

with sales like will never die and acti have little reason to make significant changes, it wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt an annual game...oh well
bednet  +   1623d ago
There are 3 types of gamers...Hardcore, Casual and COD.
NatureOfLogic  +   1623d ago
@silvacrest, Most mature comment I've read in a COD article from someone who doesn't play the game. Bubbles
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silvacrest  +   1622d ago
thanks :)

i'll give a bubble back
ylwzx3  +   1623d ago
I hate DLC.
Thedudehere  +   1622d ago
Why are so many people on this site so worried about how other people spend their money? after a long day of work and kids me and the wife love us some COD! 120 bucks well spent.So you haters can lick my sack!!
Dart89  +   1622d ago
So you're a married man with kids and a wife and you come on here to tell haters to lick you're sack??Wow you're very mature for a grown man SMH.
Getowned  +   1622d ago
so here we have a grown man telling little kids on N4G to lick his sack...Nice,only on N4G.
jetlian  +   1622d ago
for the
people that didn't wanna count that 18 million dlc is worth 270 million
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bloodybutcher  +   1622d ago
that is very impressive.i got one cpy of cod bo myself,i didn´t get maps though,not that much into cod´s gf also lked it(she didn´t play,just watched me playing)
Getowned  +   1622d ago
it's a shame some games don't even make half these numbers like Heavenly Sword,Valkyria Chronicles,and especially Blur it was a great game had tuns and tuns of people in the beta and most people even seemed to like it,more people should buy that game! people still play but it's very under-rated imo

not that im telling people what to buy,they should play what they want but would it kill people to play some thing outher then cod or a shooter! all the time i like shooters too but damn theres alot of people who mostly only own cod games.

Activision sure is makeing a lot of money tho.

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Chocoboh  +   1622d ago
And to this day I still don't find Call of Duty anywheres near remotely fun. For the average human with the attention span of a dog it might be all fun. Running around and shooting people and dying 2 seconds later from the stupid spawning system. Games like BF2-BC2 and Socom(oh how I miss ps2 days) interest me much more. I guess my kind is a dying breed.
cpayne93  +   1622d ago
I'm with you buddy. I like a little more depth in shooters than just running and gunning.
thawind  +   1622d ago
AdmiralSnake  +   1622d ago
Only Call of duty can do this though, anyway it seems a lot of people are enjoying themselves obviously, A lot of N4G trolls will be unhappy lmao.
skweejal  +   1622d ago
And still the game is 60$ and the DLC, still canned goods created before the release of the game. This is stupid people being milked right in front of our eyes and we don't even care. Just shows how lazy our society has become. Would you like more lube with your ass-fucking? Imbeciles.
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