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OmniSlashPT  +   586d ago
A gamer is someone that plays and cares about games. Just like any film or book enthusiastic. I watch films, but I don't consider myself as a film person because I dont really care. But I care about games, I care about the industry, the news and releases, the rumours and reviews.

I have friends that played Uncharted and RDR but they're not gamers, because they dont care. They bought them because those games were in the top charts and everyone was talking about them. Not because they actually had been waiting for that game and enjoy the series.

IMO, a person that plays games is just that, a person that plays games. A gamer is someone that cares more about games than simply playing them.
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OcelotRigz  +   586d ago
See, thats "your" definition..... but also one i agree with really.
Like i said how in my head i tag guys who keep up with the gaming news and know what im talking about when i start mentioning gaming lingo, they're the guys who i feel are "real" gamers, that would be my own definition. But yeah, you kinda hit the nail on the head for me, people who care about the medium, thats who i consider "gamers".
BadboyCivic  +   586d ago
I used to be a real gamer until I started playing COD.
OcelotRigz  +   586d ago
Great post, you kinda strayed from you point when you started talking about the "D" games and giving your view about them, that was for a whole different argument, the whole opinion vs fact argument regarding reviews and overhyped games etc..

But nonetheless, i enjoyed reading this and completely agree. By definition its simple, gamers are people who play games. But people have a way of complicated and changing definitions to suit themselves.
I also shared your view once, that if a guy only plays one game then he isnt a "real" gamer, i still forget myself now and then when i argue with my brother who doesnt play games as much as me that, since i play games everyday, that he's not a "real" gamer like me. But i say these things as banter and never really take it serious.

I think people use the term to identify with people who play games a lot opposed to those who dont and dont really have as much interest. I kinda think that way in my head, like when i see a guy who keeps up with news and knows what im talking about when i say some gaming lingo etc.. i say "yeah, this guy knows his stuff, hes a "real" gamer", but like i said, i only use it to identify someone and thats all fine and dandy, but on the otherhand that can lead to a division between gamers, people who take it to far and starts looking down their nose at other gamers if they dont meet their standards, thats where we get pointless arguments across the web and the creation of these "elite" communities etc..

Im going to stop as im only repeating what you already mentioned.
So yeah, good post, i completely agree. Play games and enjoy yourself, dont worry about what other people think, then again thats the greatest flaw of mankind, if you can solve that problem let me know. So to rephrase, dont worry 'too' much about what other gamers think.

God, im just going to stop typing...
TuxedoMoon  +   586d ago
@OmniSlashPT
If they bought a PS3 and those games, they have to have some level of care and interest in gaming. Just based on that, I'd consider them gamers because they got what they wanted, played it, and most likely enjoyed it. If they don't acknowledge themselves as gamers, then they're not gamers. If they do say they're gamers and continue getting games, then they are gamers. Try to be more involved, maybe you can turn them to like gaming.

It's really how they identify themselves, not how we perceive them as. Because then we're just saying they're not gamers because of their faults of not playing X amount of games. There are plenty of gamers out there who don't visit forums and buy games based on ratings or what everyone else is play. Just recently I had a friend who bought Ni no Kuni simply because he loved Studio Ghibli's movies. He didn't even know about this game until it actually came out.

@OcelotRigz
The who D-games things was just a few more examples of how different my opinion is on a few games. I just wanted to make the point that, with those few games, I don't agree with reviewers and many other gamers that think those games are the cream of the crop. I got into a lot of arguments due to my opinions and was pretty much made fun of for it. I've been on both ends, making fun of and being made fun of. It just plain sucks.

This realization though helped me be a lot more open with other people coming into the gaming community. I'd just hope that when people read this, they realize what they're doing and try to be more open with their casual friends.
OcelotRigz  +   586d ago
Open mindedness is a very uncommon trait, people have their views and become very defensive when they are challenged by others. Especially when a guy considers himself very knowledgeable and competent at something, then he is going to be very closed minded and defensive when people challenge his views and ways of doing things and this goes double for when newcomers do.

This is what leads to these elite communities or elite bunch of members on certain sites, who are very aggressive about correcting and putting the new guys into their place when they say something they don't agree with, instead of asking them why they think such-a-thing should such-a-thing and why they themselves don't agree. This is called a discussion and its something you dont see much of between gamers and if you do it usually ends with "go play cod!".

People just cant except other people having different opinions from them, i really think people still dont understand the difference between opinions and facts. I know this from my own experience where i got banned from a site, the site was for PES and the guys there, well the loudest guys anyway, started becoming more aggressive towards people who were complaining about PES. Most of these guys weren't offensive or anything and were simply stating how they feel certain parts of the game should be changed, how they were disappointed with the game because such a reason etc... But these guys were always ganged up on and treated with such condescension, it got to the stage where guys were getting banned for posting complaints about the game and thats when i got on to the owner about how he shouldn't be so harsh and the guys had the right to there opinions. Thats was the end of me.

I seen the same stuff on BF3 forums where guys who complained about the game were nearly always told "go back to cod noob!".
You even see it on here when a post is made about a console and you have the same stupid fanboy arguments over and over how one console is better than the other.

I think im going off the point though and this is another big post from me, so i'll stop typing.
steve30x  +   584d ago
Talking about Elite groups. Theres elite groups all over N4G. Theres even Elite Disagree'ers in here. A lot of the time I press the disagree button though because its so easy to get desbubbled on here.
parkerpeters  +   586d ago
I actually wrote a blog about this myself last week in varying shades of the same opinion as you, but I put it more harshly. YOU are a real gamer. I have no doubt of that. But there are people out there that use gaming as a fashion accessory, like the "gamr grls" who spend more time eating their peripherals than they do playing games. There are also the "seasonal gamers" as I call them. People than get a new Madden, Fifa, Call of Duty, or other seasonal game every year and stick to that. I would not call them gamers, because GAMING in and of itself is not their hobby, their hobby is their one and only game of choice.

I think for a person to be a "real gamer" they have to have gaming be their main hobby. Just as a cinephile's main hobby must be cinema. It is a niche hobby, and a niche culture. Not every tom dick harry and sally can be let in just because they owned a Gameboy one time. But we aren't completely exclusionary. I for one don't care who plays games as long as they actually play games, not just chew on the cords of their controllers in a plea for attention.
TuxedoMoon  +   585d ago
If they acknowledge themselves as gamers and don't play games or consider it a hobby. Then that would be hypocritical. I never met a fake gamer girl before who does that. I've only seen it in the media with whats-her-face that's on ign these days. When a person does something like that, yeah, it really is just for attention. Maybe she is a gamer and really did grow up playing RPGs and whatnot. I don't really know. Girls can be sexy and have their own right to flaunt what they got.

A person can have as many hobbies as they want, there's no limit to that. When those seasonal gamers play madden or Fifa, they play it for a while. Most sports gamers play online too, which only increases their chances of keeping the game for a while. It's probably kept just as long as the yearly COD/BF games. Which they'd probably have too. Like I said before, if those people don't consider themselves gamers, then they're not gamers.

Back in the day when I started gaming, it was a niche thing that not everyone did. I didn't have anyone to show me or help me beat games. I'm sure a lot of us didn't since gaming back in the 90s was still a new thing with new genres coming out everywhere. Gaming has aged and so has its early gamers. People today are lucky since the experienced gamers can now pass down what they know to others. Where this gets sour is the attitude. Gamers don't want to share their secrets with noobs most of the time, believing that they should tough it out on their own like we did.

I used to have the exact mindset. That gamers needed to do certain things to be real gamers, but all they really need to do is care enough about gaming (interest), play games (base requirement), and consider themselves gamers(self identity).

All I'm saying is to try to be more open to the idea of new gamers joining our "Gaming Clubs." The more we push people away and place more requirements onto being a gamer, the less of a friendly environment the gaming community becomes which may lead to the gaming being perceived as a bad thing. We're getting old and passing our knowledge to the younger generation will only make the future of gaming brighter. I do hope that eventually, gaming becomes as common as it is in Asia.
parkerpeters  +   585d ago
I agree. I don't care who becomes a gamer, and I am open to anyone who wants to start gaming, but you can't just enter a niche culture on day one and expect to be "one of the guys" especially if you were one of the people who ostracized gamers in the first place, before it was a trend to be a "nerd"

No being exclusionary. Just being sensible.
hennessey86  +   585d ago
For me a real gamer is
Someone who loves games, doesn't care what system they are on.
Tetsujin  +   584d ago
The way I see it, your either a gamer or not, no in between. I've met people who play video games and not a gamer, and I've met people who don't own consoles yet they are gamers (various reasons like bills, can't afford, etc.). This whole guy/girl gamer bs needs to stop; regardless of gender, nationality, or background we are all gamers - it's one thing to say "I know this girl who plays video games" as opposed to "I'm a gamer girl."

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