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moegooner88  +   642d ago
I agree with some of the points, but strongly disagree with the last one, I think Sony caters to both gamers, and casuals, but emphasises on the gamers. Besides, using the bluray format proved to be very beneficial especially for first party titles, I honestly think that out of the big three, Sony catered the most to hardcore gamers this gen, they tried to appeal to the casual at multiple occasions, but they never abandoned the hardcore while doing so. I think their fifth and most fatal error is the lack of marketing, and advertising, you should have mentioned that.
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Straightupbeastly  +   640d ago
Well marketing kind of ties into all of these things. If something is done the right way and is good, by word of mouth that becomes your marketing.

Commercials and things of that nature only go so far. The most popular things always grow large by way of word of mouth. And in this day with Twitter, YouTube and Facebook, marketing is free, large and fast.
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A-Glorious-Dawn  +   640d ago
From this list I gather that you'd be happy if they just released another Xbox.

Why not just stick with MS since you're already pretty happy with their business strategy

Oh and btw.
"Sony getting owned again is as predictable as the sun rising in the east"

"Go play your Killzone 3. There is probably just enough people online to get a full room going. hahahaha. Halo for life."

"Xbox is a must own console they get the best stuff or get it first. No point in owning a ps3"

"Must suck for Sony. They couldn't get CoD to run smooth on PS3 if their lives depended on it and with one shot got it running like a beast in the Wii u. Guess it's the PS3's lackluster hardware"

"Glad I switched to Xbox."( on labert's lawsuit)

"Ps3 games don't run smooth the system has no ram. It's crazy how Sony hyped the ps3 so much and it never really put out any games graphically better than the 360, and surely no games that run better. It's like we're still waiting on that promise l"

I was going to ad hominem the hell out of this post but I don't need to.

You're a troll so don't try to hide it, everyone can see your histories and you have some seriously dirty undies in yours.

Comment history is why N4G is my favourite site. ^_^
plmkoh  +   641d ago
4. Charge for online service

"In this day and age you get what you pay for."
Nope, if that were true the concept of 'price premium' would go out the back door.

"If something is free it is going to be cheap and not maintained at the standards of something that is continuously gaining revenue"
Nope, a large majority of the best online services are all free: Steam, Google, Skype, Facebook...all free.

"we all know PSN was a piss poor service."
In what? That fact that you could use your own Internet connection to connect to other people's consoles via P2P in 99% of console games? I think you're confusing the PS3's lack of change in GUI apps, utility with the actual robustness of the PSN service.

"Segregating your community for a quick buck is bad for business in the long run. "
No it isn't, basic commerce 101 dictates that it's the most efficient way to cater to the largest demand with the largest supply, it stops the service being a 'exclusive' service where those who wish to pay the maximum fee can use it. It's the same reason why Cable television providers have different tiers of packages.

"I'd much rather pay for something and have all the bells and whistles of features, smooth service and security then to have something for free and not have that stuff. "
True but that's your preference, I won't pay for stuff I don't use and security has absolutely no correlation with revenue generation see: Visa, Amazon, Google, Bank of America....

"People will pay for the service and won't complain if it's worth it, just look at Xbox live. "
If people see the value of a paid service, so be it, I'm happy for them, but I think the reasoning has more to do with you've spent $500+ on a console and a library of games...how can you not justify paying $30-49.99 a year to enjoy your purchase.
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plmkoh  +   641d ago
4. Charge for online service

"In this day and age you get what you pay for."
Nope, if that were true the concept of 'price premium' would go out the back door.

"If something is free it is going to be cheap and not maintained at the standards of something that is continuously gaining revenue"
Nope, a large majority of the best online services are all free: Steam, Google, Skype, Facebook...all free.

"we all know PSN was a piss poor service."
In what? That fact that you could use your own Internet connection to connect to other people's consoles via P2P in 99% of console games? I think you're confusing the PS3's lack of change in GUI apps, utility with the actual robustness of the PSN service.

"Segregating your community for a quick buck is bad for business in the long run. "
No it isn't, basic commerce 101 dictates that it's the most efficient way to cater to the largest demand with the largest supply, it stops the service being a 'invite only' service where those who wish to pay the maximum fee can use it. It's the same reason why Cable television providers have different tiers of packages.

"I'd much rather pay for something and have all the bells and whistles of features, smooth service and security then to have something for free and not have that stuff. "
True but that's your preference, I won't pay for stuff I don't use and security has absolutely no correlation with revenue generation see: Visa, Amazon, Google, Bank of America....they all face the reality of cyber-crime everyday.

"People will pay for the service and won't complain if it's worth it, just look at Xbox live. "
If people see the value of a paid service, so be it, I'm happy for them, but I think the reasoning has more to do with you've spent $500+ on a console and a library of games...how can you not justify paying $30-49.99 a year to enjoy your purchase.
PantherDST  +   641d ago
Outdated idea
Wow… I see why you are cast as a Sony hater

You may believe your advice is worthwhile, but I doubt Sony, or most PS gamers would agree. Much of your claims are outdated and seem to suggest that you haven’t even used a PS3 for quite some time. I’ll address the single sidedness in most of your items of advice. The only sound recommendation you make is about controlling the entry price of the next console.

1. I think everyone agrees that the high price and poor marketing early on hindered sales and would do the same for the Next-Gen.
2. Hardware drives change and improvements, not software. Your supporting argument about Porting games was true the first year or so after the PS3 was realized. However, this is flawed rationale, as the only people that care about console to console port comparisons is the gaming press. The honest gamer could less is if game X displayed beard-stubble better on a different system. Gamers are going to buy the game for their respective system. I own all three systems and this type of comparisons have not altered my buying habits. Simply put game comparison articles about rating frame rate and picture quality only serve to provide the gaming press a means to support their favorite console.
3. For a person in the gaming industry, you seem highly uninformed about Sony products. Maybe it’s because deep down you are a Sony hater. They say a person can only get better after they acknowledged that they have a problem. Anyway back on track… Sony has already done more than any other console maker to provide unique gaming experiences. Sony has produced more exclusive games, and is reintroducing many older favorites in HD.
4. This comment just goes to show that you have not used PSN. Maybe you have no friends on PSN, and that leads to your conclusion that PSN is somehow inferior to Xbox Live. 4 months ago I cancelled my Xbox Live subscription because I hated paying for something that should be free. This comment contradicts the point you were trying to make about price. If price is the driving factor than Xbox Live should cancel charging its members! From a gaming perspective both service offer the same service. In the meantime you just continue to pay for access to FB, Twitter, and Netflix.
5. Alright we agree on two out five points (1 and 5). I’d also hope that Sony maximizes its limited marketing on gaming, and leaves out the social media, and entertainment hub aspects of any Next-Gen console it produces.
sdplisken  +   641d ago
1. The only reason ps3 was $600 at launch was because of bluray, now bluray is much cheaper aka ps4 will be
(i think bluray has been worth every penny imo)

2. the "alien technology" you speak of has put out the best looking console games this gen, i believe some devs are just lazy or dont know how to program for a more complex system

now sony will prolly make ps4 much easier to just to keep
the rest of the devs happy which is great but still a shame imo

3. Youre joking right?
heavenly sword, demon's souls, heavy rain, beyond, little big planet, the last guardian, infamous, the last of us, sly 4, twisted metal, GOW, journey, Gran Turismo, metal gear solid, uncharted, yakuza, motorstorm, modnation racers, valkyria chronicles

gotta have shooters as well: resistance, warhawk, killzone, MAG, socom, dust 514

Yeah id say sony's got this area covered and then some

4. WRONG, just wrong
PS plus > xbl
free online > paid ad riddled live
cross game chat is on vita btw
keep drinking that microsoft koolaid, its not 2006 anymore

5. go watch the "michael" commercial on playstation channel on youtube bro imo out
thorstein  +   640d ago
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PurplePeople007  +   640d ago
@Straightupbeastly No one cares about your irrelevant and illogical opinion about PS3/sony.

You're trying too hard.
Ben_Grimm  +   640d ago
I don't think Sony needs to bounce back they just need to recognize that there is now stiff competition out there. And this goes for MS and Nintendo, gone are the days of one ruling console.

I mean we even have Steam tasking a small percentage of the user base away and that service is only growing and becoming more popular. The big 3 need to step it up for next gen and deliver on bigger and better quality if they want to stay in the game.
thorstein  +   640d ago
Yeah, I didn't really get the "bounce back" reference. From what, gaming "journo's" who claim the console hasn't done well because NA sales are behind XBox. I mean, if the argument is solely based on sales, then Nintendo Wii is the greatest console ever and Xbox/PS are complete and utter failures. Being only a few million difference in sales is negligible.

And as for Steam, at least I can play some games on Steam right from my PS3. I look forward to that being a key feature on the PS4.
ShaunCameron  +   640d ago
Correct on #2. The 256MB of memory was the ultimate reason why the PS3 received a lot of poor versions of multiplatform games. Developers weren't lazy. They had to make do with what the PS3's memory architecture granted them which wasn't much.
punisher99  +   640d ago
First of all. im not sure what this guy mean. When he say "Sony can bounce back next gen"
In my opinion, Microsoft is the company that should be looking to bounce back. The PS3 has outsold the 360 every year worldwide since 2008. Secondly, name at least 5 things that XBL does that PSN doesnt do that even justifies the price difference between the two. Thirdly, the 360 comes with more primitive hardware vs. the PS3 which justified the price differences. Personally I sure as hell dont want Sony to water down the PS4 just to try and please fanboys. The PS3 has spoiled me too much this gen.
miyamoto  +   638d ago
I think you are just seeing the tip of the iceberg
Do you remember Jack Tretton talking about a "big rock they have to move" concerning the launch of the PS3?

Its a very expensive rock really.

Anti Piracy Technology for developers & publishers
Blu Ray Technology
Cell Processor's Multi Core Technology
and whatnot

Sony has invested so much & laid out the groundwork for future proofing. PlayStation has succeeded on its own goals & objective for itself & video gaming.

Sony has done a great job and developers saw these hence the overwhelming support for PS3 inspite of Microsoft's billions

David has stood his ground against Goliath.

I think the key word for Sony is not "bounce back" but "speed up"
Picnic  +   634d ago
I would much rather that Sony charged a little more for PS Network games and various characters adds ons, which the hardcore Sony fan may be willing to pay more for, than charge for online gaming. Free online gaming is a beautiful feature of the PS3 and THE compelling reason to cite the PS3, especially at its current price point, as value for money. It has the feel that I guess that playing the Dreamcast must have done in the early days, like it's a free gratuity for investing in the future. Paying to play online ruins the sense of community feel that the Xbox360 aspires to but only delivers at an extra price.

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