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1080pgamer  +   823d ago
So basically an Xbox 360 1.5? Penello also said that he couldn't give a definitive answer which I find very strange.
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BobBelcher  +   823d ago
You're disgusting.
4Sh0w  +   822d ago
Yep censorship on n4g, smh you cant post or talk about this:
We can talk about every facet of microsoft drm policies but the subject when discussing sony is taboo despite sites reporting sonys TOS **CHANGED** to this:

"You must not resell either Disc-based Software or Software Downloads, unless expressly authorized by us and, if the publisher is another company, additionally by the publisher.”
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nukeitall  +   822d ago
Sony is the saviour of the industry!

Only MS could something like that and therefore must have snuck it into Sony Terms of Service. There is no other explanation possible.

Sci0n  +   822d ago
has 720p res just like 360 too lol. Maybe this time it can hit 720p without having to upscale to it though.
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come_bom  +   822d ago
New account! This poor guy/girl probably has dozens of N4G accounts. The length that some Sony fanboys go, amazes me.

That's what I call dedication... and no personal life.

As for "Microsoft shuts down latest Xbox One DRM rumours - console works "exactly" like the Xbox 360" that's good news, if true.
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user9597082  +   822d ago
Based on new functionality and innovation, if the Xbone is 1.5, the. The PS4 is another PS3 remodel.
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Goku781  +   823d ago
And why should we believe this with their track record, banning practices, and NDAs?
MizTv  +   823d ago
Thank you!
Why Should they get the benefit of the doubt about anything?
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BG11579  +   823d ago
With all the 180 done, false information given, misleading, unjustified banning done until today, it's agreeably easy to say they don't deserve the benefit of doubt.
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rdgneoz3  +   823d ago
In the words of Futurama, (Amy) "Fool me seven times, shame on you. Fool me eight or more times, shame on me. "
Bigpappy  +   822d ago
So what are your choices. You either believe this guy or you wait until Nov 22nd, get yourself an X1 and check it out. But of course you are not interested in what the manufacturer of the console has to say, the rumors are a lot more to your conviction.
SpinalRemains138  +   822d ago
Funny you still allude to them all being rumors.

Everything wound up being 100% accurate. They weren't rumors. They were............oh yeah, facts.
MasterCornholio  +   823d ago
It doesn't work exactly like an Xbox 360 because with an Xbox 360 (I had one so I know) you could play games right out of the box.

Nexus 7 2013
kB0  +   823d ago
They meant exactly as 360 as in they both have a power button and controller;) lol
Bundi  +   823d ago
In terms of DRM genius.
MasterCornholio  +   822d ago
In terms of DRM with the Xbox 360 you can play retail copies out of the box. But with the Xbox One you have to download a patch to mask the Xbox Ones DRM system.

How's your wife Peg doing?

Nexus 7 2013
DestinyHeroDoomlord  +   823d ago
Taker_129  +   823d ago
Its good that Microsoft is starting to respond quickly to these rumors and shut them down before they blow up. i just wish they would have learned this lesson sooner.
kiz2694  +   823d ago
I wouldn't really say this has been shut down? Still many questons to be answered around this topic, for one: Why do they have DRM protection this close to Launch when it was months ago they conducted the 180.
MizTv  +   823d ago
That's exactly right
They tryed to push there drm back in June!
That was 6 months ago
Why can't you just play the x1 right out of the box?
BG11579  +   823d ago
They are pushing it right now.
Forza needs the cloud to run the game at 1080p 60fps...
Kevlar009  +   823d ago
Are we really gonna have to settle for day one patches for every game now? I'd love to open the box and jump right in
Gigaguy777  +   823d ago
If by exactly, he meant the word exactly, then no. You can just refuse whatever patch there may or may not be.
LordDhampire  +   822d ago
This is a age of internet, no more do consoles and games have to be released completed, now they can just patch all there mistakes.
skazwaz  +   823d ago
Man... gaming is a mess.
BobBelcher  +   823d ago
mostly our fault.
Insomnia_84  +   822d ago
Don't count me in there, I'm doing my part. No matter how much I like Killer Instinct, I'm not giving them my money. I'm not supporting their sht!
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True_Samurai  +   822d ago
@ insomnia fanboys like you are the reason I left the play station brand to be honest
LeCreuset  +   822d ago

You say that as if anyone cares. I don't see how someone who stopped supporting a product because continuing to support it ran contrary to their principles can be defined as a fanboy. I don't get that, at all. So what is a fanboy, anyone who doesn't show absolute commitment to a product, no matter what?
SirBradders  +   822d ago
@ True_samurai you cant seriously blame a few comments by fanboys for leaving a brand. It pisses me off it really does sometimes but sometimes they are a laugh.
True_Samurai  +   822d ago
@LeCrueset I see you cared enough to reply lol :p You're just another example

@SirBradders nawl n4g is 10% of my reason the rest comes online with them, YouTube, IGN, meeting few personally etc. Sooooo yeah
ZodTheRipper  +   822d ago
Microsoft is the mess.
Insomnia_84  +   822d ago

torchic  +   823d ago
I don't think Microsoft understand the rumours. that dude wasn't able to access anything on his console, so basically what people are complaining about is that Microsoft wield far too much power over your console.

or maybe I misunderstood I dunno but that is what struck me.
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mhunterjr  +   823d ago
It's not that Microsoft doesn't understand, it's that the people complaining don't understand...

The xb1 doesn't have full functionality without a day 1 update. Mr. Swami does not have that update, so he's working on an old build. It's not a question of DRM, it's a matter of a non-member of the beta team not having access to prerelease software.
SegaGamer  +   822d ago
I thought he did have the update though. I'm not sure though, i'm not 100% clued up on all of this :p
mhunterjr  +   822d ago

He got AN update, not THE update. All of the official beta testers have the day one patch. He logged in and accessed the beta servers and ended up downloading the most current beta software, but not the day one patch, since it isn't live yet.
SegaGamer  +   822d ago
Ah right i understand now. So basically people are massively over reacting again and don't want to listen to common sense because they love to take a dig at Xbox One right now right ?
Orpheo  +   823d ago
This is a duplicate story and needs to be taken down as it provides no new data apart from what was posted earlier at:

Albert responds to DRM/COD "offline" issues

Not sure how this got through as the original story is still on the front page.
creeping judas  +   823d ago
Because it helps the cause.
ANIALATOR136  +   823d ago
I still don't trust them
True_Samurai  +   822d ago
You shouldn't trust any company Ms, Sony, Apple, Walmart etc.
Max-Zorin  +   822d ago
Benedict Arnold taught us that the world was built on anything but trust.
Drekken  +   822d ago
Imagine getting charged $499 for a console... receiving it early and the company banned you from using it because the store you bought it from shipped it early? Thats a low blow.
MightyNoX  +   823d ago
A good post from Gamefaqs. I take no credit for this:-

Microsoft reveals XBox One Console

Everybody hates it due to DRM

Larry tells everybody you can't just 'flip a switch and get rid of it'

Microsoft changes mind on DRM and say's a day one patch will remove it

**3 Months later**

Microsoft claims the day one patch has nothing to do with DRM
I'm sorry, but what?!?
christocolus  +   823d ago
great...nov22. cant wait.
BobBelcher  +   823d ago
People who weren't going to get a X1 in the first place asking "why should be believe this" is silly.
christocolus  +   823d ago thoughts exactly..a bunch of biased, narrrow minded chumps.....smh
4Sh0w  +   822d ago
vvvv Imalwaysright

"after everything they've done since the X1 reveal"

You mean all those things that they actually NEVER did since the console launches 5he 22nd, and to micros credit they change all those things the WERE going to do, whether motivated by bad PR or preorder sales they absolutey did NOT do anything to you, and yes sonyfanboys complaining about it is even worst because they weren't ever buying an X1 anyway.

Yes you are wrong.
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Imalwaysright  +   822d ago
Oh? They didn't do all those 180s? Aren't they blaming consumers because their initial plan failed? Aren't they saying that they're still commited to their initial vision?

"they absolutey did NOT do anything to you"

They are blaming ME and everyone that likes to own their games and console for their failed policies which means they feel they've done nothing wrong. This alone tells me everything I need to know about MS as a company. It tells me they don't care about the most basic rights that we have as consumers so no, I do not trust them and I don't believe in anything that comes out of the mouth of their PR representatives period. You can cry and call me a fanboy all day long because it won't change a damn thing.
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LeCreuset  +   822d ago

Unless you're in the habit of rewarding failure, I don't really see how you make such a big distinction out of MS trying to screw people over and MS succeeding at screwing people over.
Imalwaysright  +   823d ago
It is exactly because some of us don't trust MS that we're not getting a X1! After all the 180s, spinning, blame game and them saying "we're commited to the initial vision" don't expect some gamers to feel safe to make a long term investment on the X1 because that is exactly what a console is.

What is silly to me is to expect every gamer to trust MS after everything they've done since the X1 reveal.
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MightyNoX  +   823d ago
shhh! No logic here. Only blind obedience.
Fireseed  +   822d ago

So wait I'm confused, you think blindly believing conspiracy theories is logic? As compared to believing an official statement? Well heck maybe I did the most illogical thing but I looked up the facts for myself (sounds crazy right?)
jessupj  +   822d ago
Can you blame them after all the lies, mistruths and miscommunication MS has spewed in the last few months?

I think any level headed gamer would immediate take a step back to anything MS says now and at least analyse the information.

I personally take everything MS says with a truck load of salt and wait for actual proof or confirmation from an impartial 3rd party before I believe anything they say.

Having said all that I believe what Penello is saying is mostly true that it's just the complicated mess that comes with constantly updating the OS and that most of these issues will be ironed out in time for launch.

MS would not be stupid enough to creep the DRM back in this early. Although I did say MS wouldn't be stupid enough to include DRM in the first place, so I guess I should expect anything from that company.

It is very confusing though when Penello says the patch doesn't remove the DRM, and that the DRM wasn't built into the system when we were also told a few months back that the DRM is built into the core of the console and that MS "can't just flip a switch" to get rid of it.

Seems a bit fishy to me. And not the good kind of fish.
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Lulz_Boat  +   823d ago
so... the game won't run because the OS build isn't up to date... this mean that if someone doesn't update the OS, it can't play offline. and this mean a period online check.

nice trick.
JimmyDM90  +   823d ago
"console works exactly like the Xbox 360"

You mean it runs most games in 720p?
B1uBurneR  +   823d ago
Regardless MS and Sony said that they would allow Third party devs to use DRM is the chose to. MS and all their reps need to shut up now and let the Games and gamers talk for the system
aiBreeze  +   823d ago
Not really.. Microsoft are in a lose lose situation on here at least. Whatever they say, it'll be criticized and if they don't say anything, they'll be criticized even further and rumours will spread like wildfire.
metus  +   823d ago
And and here comes ppls conspiracy theories and negative thinking.... Predictable, and narrow minded..
jimbobbeers  +   823d ago
N4G - making mountains out of molehills.
Mikey94  +   823d ago
My god i have never seen such a bunch of sony fanboys in my life. You keep questioning the day one update like, why doesn't the console work straight out of the box blah blah blah. Just stfu already your acting like the ps4 doesn't have a day one update to. Everything these days have day one updates my damn tv had one. Day one updates are to get the software up to date. Which is exactly what is happening in this case. Go ahead and down vote me and all that is a typical fanboy maneuver and has really gotten old already. I just seriously want to know why people sit on the internet for hours a day bashing a product/company that there not even going to purchase/from. The fact that people cant say that there getting a xbox one without having a sony fanboy come in and start bashing that person saying why would you get that its not even a true gaming console, or want a true next gen experience buy the ps4. Seriously ps4 launches in 3 days and you guys are still sitting here bashing the xbox get a damn life this has been going on since May.
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LeCreuset  +   822d ago
So how many comments here have bashed someone for saying they want to get an Xbox One versus the number of immature comments, such as yours, whining because gamers are giving an opinion on a gaming company/console in the comments section on a gaming site?

I think it's pretty silly that you MS diehards all of a sudden want to change the rules as if only loyalists of a product can comment on an article about that product. It's illogical and sad that you have to push that in lieu of any real argument. If that's going to be the MS diehards' stance, at least be consistent. Don't complain about the presence of Sony fans if you're going to name drop and blame Sony fans every time MS does something to shoot itself in the foot.
Mikey94  +   822d ago
But yet in this case Microsoft didn't shoot them self in the foot is my point but people are acting like they did. When Microsoft come out to say the rumor aren't true people don't believe it when it comes straight from the console creators mouths. But when a simple internet rumor comes out saying one little thing that no one knows anything about they automatically assume its real. So why is it that when Microsoft come out and tell you straight up people don't believe it but they believe stupid internet rumor.
LeCreuset  +   822d ago
I'll be happy to answer that question Mikey.

First, let me correct your claim that MS didn't shoot themselves in the foot. They did. This whole controversy is the result of them banning the guy in the first place. Now they are getting more negative press from this DRM rumor, which only came about because they banned him, than they likely would have received in the first place. To take it back even further, DRM and patches to play offline wouldn't even be an issue had MS not tried to pull a fast one by introducing the DRM to begin with. These are problems that MS created for themselves.

Onto your question. I don't see how you can honestly ask that question at this point. Anyone paying the slightest bit of attention already knows the answer. Come on Mikey. Which is it: they can't just flip a switch to turn of the DRM, they can turn off the DRM with a day one update, or this latest contradiction that the day one update has nothing to do with DRM? Then take into account Microsoft's history of deception and evasion. Then take into account how so many rumors you'd think wouldn't be true turned out to be true, like always on, used game restrictions, launch country cancellations, inferior tech, not being ready for launch, resolutiongate (interesting how many Xbox diehards attacked the rumor that Xbox wasn't ready for launch, but now fall back on that to explain the resolution disparity), etc.. When the "stupid internet rumor(s)" start having more truth to them than the b.s. coming out of MS, then people will stop giving M.S. the benefit of the doubt and start believing the rumors.

Now, I've answered your question. Can you finally answer mine: So how many comments here have bashed someone for saying they want to get an Xbox One versus the number of immature comments, such as yours, whining because gamers are giving an opinion on a gaming company/console in the comments section on a gaming site?
SpinalRemains138  +   822d ago
Why are you pouting?
sher123win123  +   822d ago
if you haven't notice, the "powa of teh cloud" is the new DRM..
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stiggs  +   822d ago
@ sher123win123

A "powa of the cloud" funny and so original. I am holding my sides from laughter. Did you think of that yourself? Brilliant, just brilliant. You should go into stand-up with material like that. I'm serious. You are hysterical. /s
LeCreuset  +   822d ago
His comment isn't just a joke. There's actually some truth in that jest. MS has pushed this "power of the cloud" as something that will make your Xbox 3x more powerful and future proof. It's supposed to be the secret weapon to make up for the inferior specs. So basically, if you don't want an inferior experience you have to connect to the cloud. To connect to the cloud, you have to have an internet connection. Thus, the joke that "the 'powa of teh cloud' is the new DRM."
sher123win123  +   822d ago
WOW! did i hit a nerve to make you go postal?
SpinalRemains138  +   822d ago
Power of the Cloud is MS's.

We all know that. Why are you mad at the above poster for something MS is pushing?
KrisButtar  +   822d ago
There are things I'm not happy about on all the consoles, more so on the XB1 but this is good news and explains that they just don't have the "day one patch" ready.
Yo Mama  +   822d ago
He says DRM was never built into the console to begin with but I call bullshit. Then why can't he access settings or play offline? And if you're telling me that when you're banned, you can't even play offline, that's just as bad, if not worse than DRM.
DxTrixterz  +   822d ago
And I quote
"There is no "DRM removal" in the Day One update because none of the consoles were ever built with that stuff in it.

Do they really think I'm gonna believe that. If so what the hell is that day one patch for?
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feraldrgn  +   822d ago
Console "Works" exactly like the 360 is wrong, it's not finished yet.
Here's his post:

He said:
"When we launch, console will work exactly as you expect today on 360."

"When we launch" & "will", meaning that's what they're aiming for, it doesn't imply that it's working just like a 360 NOW.
(I wish there was a bold option)
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mcloving  +   822d ago
I just cancel my pre-order today im probably getting a ps4
fu@k microsoft
ambientFLIER  +   822d ago
close the door on the way out
flunkers  +   822d ago
Some of you guys are nuts. Some random bloke who got his Xbox early posts some info on the web he has no idea about and you all jump on it like rabid dogs.

Do you really think Microsoft would try and sneak DRM back in a and expect no one to notice?

ambientFLIER  +   822d ago
This is EXACTY why MS didn't want people on Live or giving out details before launch day. Because of stupid shit like this. His console didn't have the proper patch yet, and boom, internet drama about the DRM again, which they have to monitor and respond to! And even more ammo for the sony trolls. Still a work in progress, and will be until the last day.

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