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ZBlacktt  +   770d ago | Well said
Down to one month to go and all hell breaks loose on the X1.

If all this is true, it will be found out with in the first weeks of the console being out. There are hundreds if not thousands of testers just waiting to get their hands on both systems to run tests. This would be a big deal news breaker if it does become proven. Which again, it will be if true. Both systems are going to get tested and tested hard.

Good luck getting this story approved, lol.
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theBAWSE  +   770d ago
I don't see why people are surprised?

we all knew Microsoft PR was just that... bull

if you think it's hot now just wait until the consoles are torn down an the truth about both consoles power is revealed... Microsoft have a shit storm ahead, which wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't for all the lies

but regardless of resolution people will buy what they prefer so I wish xbone owners the best and ps4 owners the best.. let's enjoy the new generation
nukeitall  +   770d ago
The internet explodes based on a rumor from a guy that doesn't even feel good about their own source:

"Famousmortimer: I can't get into specifics even slightly about who it was because a blacklist from activision could murder any game based website. But I can say that, no, he/she isn't like a digital foundry pixel counter. I don't know how the 720p number was come up with, whether it's a guess or was told... and at this point if I asked I would get silence."

and then again:

"That said... this was done with one source and I never felt great about it. I teased it because, honestly, I'm dumb and couldn't control myself. There was a thread that was vaguely about what I heard and what I was trying to find a second source for and I teased and Bishop (the head mod at gaf) gave me a real hard time about it. So when I got home I said what I knew even though I didn't have a second source. As for other folks like Thuway and whoever else.... I have no idea if they have real sources or not. I wouldn't be surprised if my story just made it in a circle so many times that I'm the same source to like 9 different people who all think i'm someone different. The internet is stupid."

This is what fangirls are spreading and whereas straight from the developer, they say 1080p at 60fps on Xbox One:

theBAWSE  +   770d ago

yup because things can't change cough 'Microsoft constant 180s' cough

ryse USED to be 1080p

infinity ward could have hit the bottle necks of the xbone architecture as that link you posted was in June

but if all is fine then the famous or whatever his name is on neogaf will lose a lot of credibility
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ooquis  +   770d ago
A wise man once told me. YOU don't choose the console....the console choose YOU.
Septic  +   770d ago
How sketchy is this "source"? Seriously, anyone could make that up.

Ah well. Time will tell.
GiggMan  +   770d ago
All of these talks about 1080's 900's and 720p's make me appreciate Killzone Shadowfall even more. I also can't wait for conformation or denial on all these rumors...
Eonjay  +   770d ago | Well said

Microsoft could EASILY kill this rumor. Or Respawn or Infinity Ward. NOBODY is stepping up.
BBBirdistheWord  +   770d ago

well two things can happen from here.

1. The game runs at 720p as predicted by the rumour.
2. The game runs at >720p and the rumour monger looks like a fool and so do all the fanboys jumping on this like it's a religious experience.

All we can do is wait and see.
Let them have their fun.

If the rumour is true, then I too am disappointed.
In all likelihood though, this rumour is just a way for some tryhard on a forum to get attention from loud fanboys and for hit seeking websites to milk hits from gullible gamers.
NewMonday  +   770d ago

This is confirmed by multiple sources

MS officials refuse to deny the news

Most 3rd party games only demoed on PS4 , including CoD, a game that has exclusive marketing with Xbox

What CBOAT was warning us about is happening, most games will only be 720p on XB1, gamers who expect 1080p for most games need to know this now, MS trying to muzzle this fact will only cause another scandal after the XB1 is released and gamers feel betrayed
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GribbleGrunger  +   770d ago
@Septic: I don't think many people are aware of the Gaf rules. If an insider can't provide proof of a legitimate source then they are immediately banned. One you get the 'read my PM' message, then you'd better be prepared to share your source. Famousmortimer has had such PM requests and is still posting on Gaf. Rumour without any source is scorned on by the mods. Many people have fallen foul of the ban hammer in the last few months for that very reason. This is why CBOAT and Famousmortimer are believed more often than not.
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FamilyGuy  +   770d ago
I'd be surprised if either of these rumors were true. Titanfall isn't a graphical showcase to be struggling to hit 1080p. Fun as it may be it just isn't "next gen" in the visual department.

COD Ghost would be a surprise because they've already outright said that it would be 1080p 60fps and while it looks better than current gen it's also not some huge jump that should make the new system struggle.

I do believe in the rumor that the majority of X1 games will be under 1080p. X1 was built with "the best upscaler ever created" for a reason. They knew that this was something their system would have a problem with.

True or false makes no difference to me, we'll know all there is to know about all these games and both systems in a month or less. With next gen games already going gold and retail model systems already seen in the wild it's just a matter of time. I'd bet that we hear all this info within 2 weeks time actually.
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awesomeperson  +   770d ago
Call of Duty on Xbox One will definitely be running at 720p. Confirmed by numerous insiders on Neogaf.

Titanfall is more up in the air, I believe it was just CBOAT who mentioned it. That holds a lot of weight, going by his past rumours. I believe even Respawn said they were targeting frame rate above resolution?

The Titanfall one could certainly change, still a while until it releases. For it to hit 900p would be good.

EDIT: Another pooint of evidence for the COD situation: there has been no denial. If it was, in fact, running above 720p, it would immediately be rejected. Rumours like this hurt sales, and it would not be left to fester.

I don't believe it will change - there simply isn't enough time before launch.
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Septic  +   770d ago

Ah I see. Thanks for that. I would have known all that if Neogaf authorised my bloody account! Ah well, here's hoping the rumours aren't true. The source himself seems unsure about it so.....we shall see.
VENOMACR1227  +   769d ago
Idk what the huge deal is. 720 or 1080, it's not the end of the world. Either way the game will look awesome and play awesome and be game of the year, well before PS fans get their hands on it. I'll take 720 and a March release, enjoy Killzone.
hiphopisdead  +   769d ago
cod ghosts and titanfall both do not look like graphical powerhouses... i expect them both to run 1080p 60fps on both xbone and ps4.
ZBlacktt  +   769d ago
More then aware, 35 years of watching launches, lol. But yes like I said.
darthv72  +   769d ago

Lets all agree that it wont run any less than 720p.
XboxFun  +   769d ago
I have a some better questions...

Why should we care?

Will it take away any of the anticipation and awesomness of the game?

Will it make anyone not want to play it any less?

Now, instead of MS having exclusives, now the argument has shifted to every game must be in 1080p?

So are we moving the goal posts again?

And I like to point out that once again, looking at the comments above me, the only one's concerned are the sony fanboys on que to blow up these rumors. One minute they're wishing this game to hurry and come to the PS4, the next breath they're downplaying it as a CoD with mechs and now bashing it for a rumor of 720p. The SDF are very emotionally conflicted.
pyramidshead  +   769d ago
@gribble pretty much nailed it.

From all the development from yesterday all arrows are on IW and MS to confirm and all they've done is dance around it. It's pretty much confirmed but I'm waiting for that curve ball to break the internet if it turns out to be the reverse. I mean I prefer the Sony side of things but holy shit that would send internet seismic tremours along all of the wifi.
H0RSE  +   769d ago

I like how only MS has a "shit storm" ahead of them after people start analyzing the consoles. As if they're gonna look into the PS4 and be like, "Wow! Everything ever said about the console, is 100% accurate!"

It's ironic to see console players taking such an interest in comparing hardware specs, yet denounce PC players as "elitist" when they do the same thing...

@monday below

"What CBOAT was warning us about is happening, most games will only be 720p on XB1, gamers who expect 1080p for most games need to know this now..."

The funny thing is that most games won't be 1080p on EITHER console, at least not at 60fps, which is arguably more important than the resolution.
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toddybad  +   769d ago
So you are decided that this random person posting complete guff must be accurate based on an interview in which he continues to speak absolute guff in the hope people will still take him seriously despite the total amount of guffness which he has posted? There's not on iota of evidence behind any of this!
Whether it's true or not is irrelevant. All you've been offered is a few words backed up with nothing but you've decided to fall for it hook, line and sinker. Bizzare.
loulou  +   769d ago
gaf aint the be all and end all, and these guys aint right all the time.

but what make these rumours even harder to swallow is the absolutely abysmal ps4 cod ghosts footage on ign.

jesus, it looks terrible (not the ps4s fault btw).

titanfall is also running on a 10yr old engine.

i dont believe it. bf4 absolutely, terrible looking cod no way. titanfall i doubt as well
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Sevir  +   769d ago
I want to say I don't believe him because COD isn't a game that's breaking any boundaries on any platform. Ruben stated that Black Ops 2 was running at 1080p on Wii U at E3 last year only for DF to prove that the game was running code ported from the 360 as its base and was running at 720p and then upscaled. But This guy was the one that broke the news on Driveclub being delayed and just 2 days later Sony Announced it!

He has some cred, more cred than a lot of people give him credit for! News Broke about Ryse getting a downgrade and then MS's own First party Confirmed it along with crytek! So I am led to believe.

Its just crazy really, when you think about this whole thing and IW choosing to show of COD on the PS4 instead of the platform that they struck a partnership with, it makes you scratch your head and go "HMM"

Even with a spec bump with over clocking the CPU and the GPU MS's XBOX One seems to still be lacking. Drivers for the console must still being ironed out when they are 30 days from launch! I cannot wait for DF to benchmark all the games... I hope they have staffed up. because That's 6 platform to benchmark performance. And i'm telling you now. MS and these Developers who aren't "allowed" to talk specs and resolution will not be able to hide under the shadows for too much longer!

dantesparda  +   769d ago
Downgrade, after downgrade, after more downgrades. Bad news after bad news, after more bad news. And you fanboys just keep on defending it hard. You's must really love MS
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UltimateMaster  +   769d ago
Are we really getting to this?

We are interviewing, a guy that posted a rumor.

*Sigh* Not the biggest fan of the Xbox One with all the bad policies, but come on! This is ridiculous.

If a game is 720, 900 or 1080. 20fps, 30fps or 60fps, I want to know from the developers themselves.

There has been some credible sources in the past, but stuff like downgrading Ryse from 150k to 85k came directly from Crytek themselves.
Or when the developers of KI was 720p, or when Ryse was confirmed 900p.
Those sources came from the developers.

I don't want to hear rumors about some guy of some friend that heard this from his neighbor's COD dog who's owner knows a guy that works there that he's somewhat sure if it is or isn't true.
And surely not interview the guy...

To my eyes, it looks 720p at best 900p, certainly 60 frames per second regardless but that's just me imo. I won't go off telling others info I'm not 100% sure of.
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dantesparda  +   769d ago
hmm, so since the x1 can barely do 900p, now its the 60 fps thats so important. Fanboys are so fake and pathetic!
Soc5  +   769d ago
Not calling u out specifically but what's with everybody saying ps4 people or xbox people. Plenty of people now own both 360 and the ps3, and I'm sure that will happen again with the new consoles. What's with all the silly competition and trolling and picking sides? They're just gaming consoles not political ideas or parties. Be on the side of good games not on the side of corporations that make a game system. If I see a good game ill play it irregardless of the brand.
Ritsujun  +   769d ago
Not surprising AT ALL. =DDD
dboyc310  +   770d ago
My only question is why is the xbox one at 500$ and the ps4 only 400$? Is the high price point just so they can maximize there profit for each console sold? If the system doesn't sell well after the holiday I guarantee they will do a nintendo and give it a drastic price cut.
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GarrusVakarian  +   770d ago


Maybe then it's a combination then of the price for the tech and MS wanting to make a profit (naturally). I agree completely about a kinect-less SKU, i have no desire to pay for a kinect that i will never plug in and im guessing many others feel the same way.
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dboyc310  +   770d ago
I was thinking that but even then separate both and I doubt kinect 2.0 would be worth 100$ as a stand alone item. Heck the first kinect was 150$ when it came out. They will have to release a kinectless sku if they want to compete. The whole foundation that they were going for next gen crumbled. I guess the third console curse is real.
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ElementX  +   770d ago
I think they are charging more because of Kinect and paying fees for using Bluray. Nobody seems to mention Bluray fees and I'm not sure what those fees cost.
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kneon  +   770d ago

Bluray royalties are likely under a dollar, there are $50 bluray players out there so that's not the reason it costs more.

The XB1 has Kinect included along with the HDMI in port and the hardware to support it. That is where the money is going.
Brazz  +   769d ago
Kinectic in addition, the roytles the BluRay also be placed in line production costs. Keep in mind that microsoft is primarily a software company, not electronics, such as the sony. I have no doubt that Sony's production costs are lower, there must be a difference of up to $ 10-20 per unit production costs due to production capacity.
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ElementX  +   769d ago
@kneon I just read that in 2009 licensing fees for a Bluray player were $9.50 I haven't found any updated licensing fees.
DevilishSix  +   769d ago

To answer your question yes. Currently they sell the Kinect for what a $100 and it probably costs $10 to make. With the Kinect bundled in X1 MS makes even more money and MS came out and said awhile back that they will make money day one on hardware sales. Sony will lose money day one.

It bothers me being mostly a 360 gamer this gen, I was one of only 10 people to have the 360 in my area on that chilly November day in 2005, that all the hardware stats favor PS4, which shows were MS priority was when developing this console and Mattrick is gone because of it.

I am getting a PS4 first, it's cheaper and you are getting what you pay for. I will have an eye out for that Kinectless X1 for $350 around next summer.
pete007  +   769d ago
have you ever read my posts? kid, this so called next gen, has a start completelly different from all others before.
lets see ps1 sold more than 100 millions
ps2 200 millions
ps3 80 millions
sega went out of business
multibillionaire microsoft gets into business with xbox not selling more than 20/30 nmillions mostly in US.

now lets see those 80 million ps3 sold:
SOny bled money till the last one, playstation division have posted losses 7 years in a row, ps3 gen didnt happen as expected, sony didnt capitalise enough to continue in house development and went after AMD.
microsoft did well with 360, cheap hardware makes more profits and invested on kinect, to go after nintendo audience as well.
sony 400 dollar console is a sign that sony have not margin for mistakes, cant let microsoft lead the way. must have a strong install base so they can keep game devs on their side because pockets are empty to buy their simpathy. i believe sony is loosing nmoney at start on each console, but later will catch up, microsoft decided not to loose any dime on each console because they know market is evoluting agressivly with steam, nvidia, mobile devices, pads, etc, so if they need to launch quickly a new gen on about 5 years or so they dont loose money and are capable of a new cicle sooner than later,
jacksons98  +   769d ago
Xbox costs more because MS has the attitude that people will pay it. MS has never been shy about over charging their customers.
In my opinion the better specs of the PS4 more than make up for the extra expense of Kinect. PS4 is the better value, nobody can argue that especially if you throw in PS+
nukeitall  +   769d ago
The high cost on the Xbox One are due to:

* more Research & Development cost for almost everything. MS spent $100 million researching the controller alone. Think about the cost of Kinect R&D and how tailored the Xbox One. It's got to run into the billions.

* Kinect hardware is quite advanced, with cutting edge technology. For instance, the Time of Flight technology is used to measure light distance travelled!

* The semiconductor parts in the Xbox One are highly customized. For instance, the CGPU is a 5 billion transistor chip. That is got to be expensive to produce.

* Features! The Xbox One has some very neat features, but there are huge cost to develop, test and push this technology out.

Put simply, the Xbox One unlike other consoles is a huge leap in terms of what is really offered. The whole console is designed around features, as opposed to one big hulking pixel pusher.

That is why the Xbox One cost so much, and if it doesn't sell well, MS might just have to start packing in a game, or dropping the price.
nukeitall  +   770d ago
The internet explodes based on:

"Famousmortimer: I can't get into specifics even slightly about who it was because a blacklist from activision could murder any game based website. But I can say that, no, he/she isn't like a digital foundry pixel counter. I don't know how the 720p number was come up with, whether it's a guess or was told... and at this point if I asked I would get silence."

and then again:

"That said... this was done with one source and I never felt great about it. I teased it because, honestly, I'm dumb and couldn't control myself. There was a thread that was vaguely about what I heard and what I was trying to find a second source for and I teased and Bishop (the head mod at gaf) gave me a real hard time about it. So when I got home I said what I knew even though I didn't have a second source. As for other folks like Thuway and whoever else.... I have no idea if they have real sources or not. I wouldn't be surprised if my story just made it in a circle so many times that I'm the same source to like 9 different people who all think i'm someone different. The internet is stupid."

This is what fangirls are spreading and whereas straight from the developer, they say 1080p at 60fps on Xbox One:

GarrusVakarian  +   770d ago
No one is spreading it as fact, don't you see everyone saying "if", this is a rumour and we are treating it as such.
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majiebeast  +   770d ago | Well said
"Tuesday, 11 June 2013"

Things change i remember KI and Ryse being 1080P.
MightyNoX   770d ago | Trolling | show
Eonjay  +   770d ago
No the internet exploded because of this:
yewles1  +   770d ago
Oh how quickly we forget... remember Black Ops 2 on Wii U? Recap.

First, there was this:

Then, there was this:

Then finally this:

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
-George Santayana
Mr_Writer85  +   769d ago

Can you show me the part where developer says 1080p?

They are quoted on the 60FPS, but only EG themselves mention 1080p.

Also that was done in June, it could of been downgraded.

So maybe you should stop being a fanboy.
imt558  +   769d ago
Hey bithches!! Of course the COD : Ghost is running at 1080p/60 fps on XO.

Check the date of that article :

Published Tuesday, 11 June 2013

And you know what? XO games running on PC's with Nvidia GTX 7xx GPU. Oh man!!!


Even Crytek admits that Ryse was running on PC before :

If you understands what Crytek saying. So, rumors are true. COD : Ghosts and Titanfall run at 720p.
YOU WON'T SEE MY MONEY, MICROSOFT! I want next-gen standard on new consoles.
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pyramidshead  +   769d ago
lol dat hope.
CRAIG667  +   770d ago
I couldn't care less if it's 720, the graphics aint all that anyway, I buy games to have fun not freak out over resolutions... I will let all the my little sony fanboys take care of that.
ion53  +   769d ago
Why the fuck, when anything bad happens to the XbOne, do us Sony fan(BOYS) get blamed?
BBBirdistheWord  +   770d ago
Holy crap how did this get approved?

a rumour on top of another rumour from an anonymous and unreliable forum poster?

Come on N4g. lame. so lame. Kids stuff.
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True_Samurai  +   770d ago
Funny how this rumor comes out after we began to get some TF news. Hmm Sound like some shill smear campaign
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Studio-YaMi  +   770d ago
Let's be honest here,Albert Penello himself can't even give a solid answer to this question,how would you reach his answer if you read his latest comment on Twitter ?

I would say he's giving away the answer and just saying that the rumors are true,I hope not but his answer is just cringe worthy.
malokevi  +   769d ago
lol, yep. Getting sad, now. And with the Titanfall announcement yesterday... hmmmmm....

""I've seen COD: Ghosts running on Xbox One. It looks f'n amazing. Wait for real footage, then judge for yourself." "

That's.... confirmation? ahahahaha.

This whole episode reeks of desperation. Not surprising, since the ONE worthwhile PS4 launch exclusive is now shrouded in fog... literally.
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BBBirdistheWord  +   769d ago
@ studio

"I would say he's giving away the answer "

i would strongly disagree, sorry
That is not the message of the twitter I read.

It might be the message, if you frame it in the context of rumours, fear mongering and fanboy rants that precede the twitter.
That may be worth some deep thought.
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scott182  +   769d ago

The "ONE worthwhile PS4 launch exclusive" If you are talking about Killzone because people keep praising it and it getting so much attention, I agree that it looks very worthwhile and extremely fun, I am very excited to play it.

But I will be picking up a ton of other exclusive that I consider worthwhile, just my opinion but the PS4 has the games I want at launch...
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2cents  +   770d ago
This sort of news is only a problem for people who need numbers to justify their ego.

The only time this will affect me is if the games dont look better that the 360 counterparts. Which I can confidently say will not be the case.

Sure it's nice for bragging rights to have the full bell n whistle but some take these things way too seriously.
otherZinc  +   769d ago
Phil Spencer is right "I don't know what 3rd parties are doing, I know what our 1st parties are doing".

This is why Forza 5 is releasing on time at 1080p "native" 60fps and Drive Club is releasing sometime in 2014.

You can only control the quality of your company, if others want to slackoff, can't help that.
Drekken  +   769d ago
Forza 5 will be a mess on release. Bookmark my comment so you can come back after release and tell me how the jaggies and screen tearing look.
imt558  +   769d ago
Well, Driveclub will be released in early 2014 : january or february.

January or February are still launch PS4 months in some countries.
scofios  +   769d ago

In fantasyland your right.
forcefullpower  +   769d ago

Spot on and this is why Gaf is considered the place to go to get rumours and dispel OR bullcrap.

Only people I see that hate gaf are the ones that get banned.
malokevi  +   769d ago
"all hell breaks loose"

lol. You're kidding... right?

"Q: What do you think about this rumor? I know you said that you don't know if it's true or not, but you must have a feeling about it. Do you believe this rumor or not?

Famousmortimer: Earlier in the day I didn't. The non-answers from Albert are making me think it's true. For those who follow gaf you know I had the driveclub thing also.... and each non-answer was further proof (or, at the very least, relaxed me... not wanting to be wrong on a big stage is nerve wracking)."

This is nothing short of SonyGaf reacting to the Titanfall release date, and a lack of exclusive launch titles. Some serious grasping at straws both here and there.

Pennelo said of COD:

"I've seen COD: Ghosts running on Xbox One. It looks f'n amazing. Wait for real footage, then judge for yourself."

RYSE running at 900p, and you are all convinced Titanfall and COD are 720P based on... an absence of evidence?

lol. Slavestation faithful getting more desperate by the day! "ITS ALL OVER! ahahahaha.
scott182  +   769d ago
Funny you say slavestation when Sony are the ones that allow devs to take their time to finish games, and MS has devs crunch to get games done for launch (crytek) and not allowing for a life.
gazgriff2k12  +   769d ago
it will be 1080p on ps4 lol
KontryBoy706  +   769d ago
LOL hell's BEEN breaking loose on the XB1 since Microsoft opened their mouths about it
BallsEye  +   769d ago
Seriously, these games run on 360 in 720p and you really believe XBox One version will same share resolution? REALLY? You're delusional.
N4realGMRZ  +   769d ago
Ohh N4G! your Sony fan are about as silly as Fox News viewers ....interviewing a man who spread a rumor from a source he isn't sure about....Stupidity clearly has no is boarder line libel.
scott182  +   769d ago
A Sony fan did the interview? Interesting.
N4realGMRZ  +   768d ago
Someone who can't seem to put 2 and 2 together on N4G, interesting.
Walker  +   770d ago
Oh my god, bad news for xbox fans :(

Here we go ...
jatakk  +   770d ago
Infinity Ward themselves have said that XboxOne version runs 60fps@1080p so there are NO bad news, only if you believe in false fanboy rumours!
Studio-YaMi  +   770d ago
That was 4 months ago,they could have said that not knowing that they may counter this res problem that the XboxOne is having.

Let's just wait for a confirmation from IW or MS regarding these rumors about 720p.
Xsilver  +   769d ago
her they said ryse will be 1080p
and we know things changed so for now i think you guys should wait for confirmation from activision.
BallsEye  +   769d ago
it's not news, it's bull rumors. Here let me start a blog and write crap about the other systems and make it NEWS on n4g. Also , it was confirmed to run 1080p 60fps on XO by infinity ward.
ziggurcat  +   769d ago
"it was confirmed to run 1080p 60fps on XO by infinity ward"

link, please.

upscaled 1080p =/= native 1080p, and we all know that xbone upscales all games to 1080p (confirmed by greenberg himself).
GarrusVakarian  +   770d ago
If this is true, then that is mind boggling. How could it be 720p? It looks like great fun but it doesn't look all that technically demanding to be honest. Should have no problem running it at 1080 60fps.

Either way i will buy and play it, it looks like alot of fun.
BX81  +   770d ago
That tells me devs don't know how to properly get the most out of the hardware yet. That's just my opinion. Also who are these clowns acting like a 720p game is trash? I love how the droids come out of their holes to drag there knuckles. Oh poor xbox fans the resolution of a game is 720p not 1080p.... These poor Xbox fans will be playing Cod/BF4/ryse and dead rising come launch day. Those games look great and fun. To all the xbox fans in denial. The ps4 is stronger no doubt but the Xbox has just as many good looking games that are just as fun..... Oh yeah meh!
TRD4L1fe  +   769d ago
it's because fanboys need something to bash on, plain and simple. they dont like the hardware so they want to make it seem like it the worst thing ever
BX81  +   769d ago
Lol, true.
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majiebeast  +   770d ago
"As first party I don't get builds of 3rd party games. I know what our 1st party games are doing."

So wait Phil Spencer doesnt know whats going on with third party games(TitanFall) and he is pretty much top of the food chain at Microsoft.

But Adam Boyes VP, Publisher & Developer Relations at Sony knows exactly whats going on with Destiny,Elder scrolls online and other games.

So a few conclusions i could draw.

- Lying his ass off and knowing exactly that both Titanfall and Ghost will run at 720P.
- Really not knowing whats up with their biggest console exclusive game for 2014 which is extremely weird when so much is riding on it.
- Sony is more hands on with third party devs/publishers while Microsoft isnt.
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cleft5  +   770d ago
Either way Microsoft comes off looking weak in a time when they need to appear strong. 720P isn't a big deal, but when they try to pretend it is something that it isn't people will use it against them.

Their PR is doing a terrible job and just making them look really bad. They could easily have just said it was going to be 720P so there could be a greater level of detail and AI interaction.
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majiebeast  +   770d ago
Its a pretty big deal when 8 year old tech runs on the same resolution as the brand new one. Also every TV is now fullHD not 720P.
NexGen  +   769d ago
Of course this is a big deal. The console's consistent inability to hit 1080 makes this no better than the 8 year old xbox. Why buy the bone then?
Mikeyy  +   769d ago
Somebody at neogaf speculated that ms honestly doesn't know about their 3rd parties because the 3rd parties are keeping them out of the loop. They just don't want to share the bad news with Microsoft because they are a vindictive company. The console pairity rule won't hold water after the next gen sales numbers go public and official. Ms won't have a pedistool to stand on and won't be able to refuse a game if the ps4 version looks and plays better.

That rule alone shows ms cares nothing for the industry, or the hobby. Trying to cripple your opponent just "because". Regardless if his canvas is larger or not.
g-nome  +   770d ago
Ps4 Ghosts most likely upscales to 1080p , i'd be very surprised if it gets the magic target of native 1920x1080x60 .
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GarrusVakarian  +   770d ago
For Titanfall? 1080p native on PS4 would be more than achievable....Killzone SF is 1080p 60fps with minimal drops when under heavy load and it looks MILES better then CoD Ghosts and that's an understatement.

You are underestimating the PS4 if you think it can't run Titanfall in native 1080p 60fps. Ghosts is 1080p 60fps, right? And ghosts and titanfall graphically look pretty much the same, so it doesn't make sense to say it wouldn't be able to do 1080p 60fps for ghosts.

Enough talk about numbers anyway, the game has freaking jetpacks and mechs! It looks like great fun.


Even so, it doesn't look like a game that devs would struggle to hit 1080p 60fps with, its like CoD Ghosts, barely looks next gen visually.
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Ezz2013  +   770d ago

i mean look at this KZSF gif

i can't believe how good Killzone Shadow Fall look and all in 1080p
and that's just a launch title
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Studio-YaMi  +   770d ago

GG themselves said that the game can handle 24 different enemy AI on one screen ! while looking this much awesome in graphical achievement,

Not to mention in Multiplayer they said that the game will support up to 24 players & 24 drones(with full AI) at one time while achieving NATIVE 1080p & 60FPS and only dropping a little in EXTREME situations.

Source :

"Q: Will Killzone Shadow Fall multiplayer have a variable frame rate?

A: No, we’re running 60fps. However, the game may drop a few frames in extreme situations – when there are a lot of GPU-intensive things going on at once. Guaranteeing a constant 60fps under such circumstances would’ve required undesired concessions.We wanted to make sure Killzone Shadow Fall multiplayer would present a visual spectacle, boasting a stunning level of detail in 1080p at 60fps, while still allowing 24 players and their drones (effectively 48 entities) to take part at once. We’re very proud of the results – when you move through the maps you’ll notice lots of intricate details, from beautiful reflective surfaces to individually moving leaves on the foliage."

If that's not something to you then I don't know what is ? :\
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JCDenton  +   770d ago
More bad news for Microsoft... With all the news, it looks like that, in terms of public image, they're taking one step forward, then two back.

Now, this is coming from a long time Xbox fan:

I was always more interested in Xbox and Sega Consoles than PlayStation. With last generation, it was the same - I opted for X360 rather than PS3. But coming generation, I'm all about PS4, there's no denying about that. The price is lower, more powerful hardware (although it remains to be seen how games will actually look in practice), and all in all it feels like with the PS4 there are much less "hoops to jump through".

For me, PS4 feels like an "optimized PS3" in a way that they kept everything that was good with PS3 and improved upon it (simpler hardware architecture, more resources), while Xbox One feels like it's trying to be something completely different than X360, which is wrong, IMO.

Maybe it's just me, but I think PS4 will be the new PS2.

This is just an honest opinion of a completely neutral gamer. :)
Thehyph  +   769d ago
I'm just happy that x86 is now the de facto standard for pretty much all non mobile gaming.

This means a lot. Alternate control schemes or keyboard and mouse support could open up many new opportunities.
RTS makers, for example, could make console ports to increase revenue.
MightyNoX  +   770d ago
To those who kept saying "Sony is losing steam" from trifling things like the delaying of DriveClub and I countered with the many(and ever rising)failings of the Xbox One, I say---

You know what, I'll let my good friend, The Burger King state it for me-:

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TheKingWilliamV  +   770d ago
And this Is what troubles me, 720p out the gate with possible upscaling. I want to purchase a PS4 but all my friends are getting the Xbox One damn...
cleft5  +   770d ago
Make new friends.
Xsilver  +   769d ago
that's what i did.
GarrusVakarian  +   770d ago
You have 4 options:

1.Convert your friends.
2.Get a PS4 and go lone wolf.
3.Get both consoles (eventually).
4.Give in to peer pressure and get an X1,lol.

Now choose, young Padawan.
RiPPn  +   770d ago
While I question the intelligence of your friends paying $100 more for inferior hardware, I would hope that they buy the machine from a retailer that has returns, so they can return the machine after they get it home and see the doo doo it's spewing on the screen.

Then if you already have a PS4 you can say "see brahs, I told you what system to get." You'll be a boss while they are hunting down PS4s having to pay scalpers major bank just so they can hang with you.
Manic2014  +   770d ago
Not sure about titanfall but, The COD GHOST resolution for both consoles has been confirmed 1080p 60fps.....
Drekken  +   769d ago
And Driveclub is a launch game. They said it months ago, so it must be true. Right?
Manic2014  +   769d ago
Well they did repeat the same thing today so.........
GutZ31  +   770d ago
Guy is an idiot for starting this rumor over one insiders remarks, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is true.

I don't think 720p is a bad thing, but it comes off as lazy on developers if CoD Ghost, a game that looks rather unimpressive visually, can't make 1080p on Xbox, but can on PS4...
It also leads to the question of the consoles power again and again when this kind of thing comes up.
I hope developers take advantage of both consoles, fully utilising what each has to offer.
cellfluid  +   770d ago
Lol 720p for a next gen console lol.. I guess that's why microlost xfolp done stated specs don't matter.. Lol soooooo last gen. I'm glad I preorderd a ps4 killzone bundle.. Just a few more weeks and greatness has arrived!!!
HappyWithOneBubble  +   770d ago
I believe that every PS4 game won't be 1080p either. It's up to the devs.
Studio-YaMi  +   770d ago
You're probably right,either they will sacrifice the FPS or the RES if they want to make the games graphically heavy.

Killzone:Shadow Fall had to sacrifice the FPS for single player but you can't blame them,the game looks STUNNING(latest story trailer looked phenomenal!).
johny5  +   770d ago
720p? hmm never heard if it? Isn't it that thing they stopped making 2 years ago...
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Ko_Uraki  +   770d ago
I have nothing about this guy. He seems honest to me. Nevertheless I want to remember that yes, he probably confirmed the DC delay rumor but it was not started by any "insiders" but from a site. It still a big difference, expecially when everyone thought that the silence from Sony confirmed the rumor of But the main point is another one. The so called "gamers" are bashing MS and its new console for a difference in resolution hard to be seen, but they don't seem to care about the framerate, the online speed and all the other parameters that can really hurt a gaming experience. In few words they are making the game of sony that by now is good in resolution but is having serious issues on the framerate (from knack to killzone).

Of course this only my opinion.
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JonnyLH  +   770d ago
I've been delving into the 90 page thread on NeoGAF to try and find the slightest bit of evidence to which support these claims, I found nothing but comments like "LOL MS DON GOOF".

If anyone finds any evidence other than a person who can't string a sentence together and who has got many things wrong in the past, let me know.

In the meantime, I'll just read the many different articles which confirm 1080p on both.
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Skate-AK  +   770d ago
EA and Activision need to just come out and say the resolution. Not answering it does make it seem true. Publishers know how bad people want 1080p so it would be a perk and they would be praised if they announced it.
Jovanian  +   770d ago
If this were coming out on PS4 I guarantee it would be running at similar settings.

But then of course, graphics wouldn't matter!
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Fishy Fingers  +   770d ago
I guess high frame rates are their priority but 720p would still be disappointing when it's running a, albeit heavily modified, version of the Source engine.

PC for me anyway, this game is crying out for my mouse.
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christocolus  +   770d ago
it seems sony fans are more worried over this than xbx fans..but even at 720p would the game experience change cos it seems everyone who has played titanfall loves it either way and call of duty is doing well on the xbx charts 720p or not both will sell millions..i play games for fun not to compare resolutions or to dwell on crap like that...but even at that why not wait to see these consoles launch first before assuming...i see ryse, quantum break, sunset overdrive, halo5,kinect sports ,forza5 and even the order and infamous and all i want to do is play those games irrespective of their resolutions or fps and thats how it should be.the experiences will remain the same 720p or 1080p..why cant fanboys shut up and just play the games they want on their console of choice without being so petty..imo i feel most of the trash talk ,rumors and hate will die down after seeing how both consoles and their respective games fare after launch and into mid next year...the games will surely speak for themselves and gamers will decide...
Hicken  +   769d ago
How does any Sony fan seem worried?
reko  +   769d ago
worried? about what?
UncleGermrod  +   770d ago
Look, unless you are just a flat out fanboy,no one wants this to be true. Honesly, I want titanfall to exceed 720, but that game does seem to push hardware further than CoD. now Ghosts on the other hand, I really do not see how the xbox one does not have at least enough power to hit 1080 for that game. Nothing real special graphically and the specs would seem capable. If this game really runs 720p, my guess would be development and driver issues more than hardware. Either way, when IW said 1080p for xbox one, they also admitted that both version were "in severe development"...things can change
christocolus  +   770d ago
dude its crazy and some of them are very not trying to spur anything but even with the issues ms faced with dev kits not been out on time and the upgrades to the drivers and the os on the dev kits its still amazing what ms has been able to achieve with forza, ryse , killer instinct and quantum break and they look awesome 720p or not..and i can only imagine how good the games made ground up from the finalized dev kits would look like...only time will tell though.
MightyNoX  +   770d ago
Hey kids, you know what time it is? That's right, it's that magical time when every young Xbox One suffers a bad catastrophe and has to be saved with PR-spinning.

It's time...for more Xbox Facts(tm)
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rmw2hot  +   770d ago
I kinda feel sad 4 u xboners that your system can't run 10 year old graphic engines in native 1080p lol.
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drsfinest72  +   770d ago
720p or not I'm still gonna be enjoying titanfal l on Xbox one .I simply cannot wait for it.
DevilishSix  +   769d ago
Surely I can enjoy Titanfall on my 360 at 720p or 1080p on a PC? See in there is where the disappointment of X1 lays if rumor is true.
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   770d ago
Help me, i'm drowning in salty tears!
ger2396  +   770d ago
Its call of duty, the millions of people who buy it could careless that it runs @720p.
Saleem101  +   770d ago
Last time I check a lot people flock to COD on Xbox because game look better and ran better... stop wit fud
Saleem101  +   770d ago
Cboat works for Microsoft so this is definitely true... lol 720p
MultiConsoleGamer  +   770d ago
Once again NeoGAF gets called on their bullshit and their entire story falls apart.

Every site that ran a story on this subject now looks like a joke and has no credibility.
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ThatCanadianGuy514  +   770d ago
You have no idea what you're talking about.

Just stop, it's embarrassing.
MultiConsoleGamer  +   770d ago
Personal attacks don't change the truth.

The guy spins a story, people confront him on the facts, he backs away and the whole thing falls apart.

The only thing that's embarrassing is your behavior and the whole idiot fanboy circus that built up around this story. Its a disgrace to gaming. It honestly makes me happy that casuals are taking over the industry. At least they actually play video games instead of fighting console wars on the Internet 24/7.

BTW, fanboys. I'm buying PS4, Xbox One and Steambox on day one. So go ahead and tell me that I'm pulling for one team or another. Go ahead and make an ass out of yourselves. That's what you do.

You're all a disgrace to gaming

Don't like what I said? Too ****ing bad. That's all I'm going to say about the subject. There's a reason I won't post on sites like NeoGAF. I'm not going to help some scumbag line his pockets while his creation shits up the industry. I'm even starting to feel guilty about my involvement with N4G.

Oh what's that sound? You hear that? Listen close. It's the sound of fanboys getting told hard.

Bring on the disagree votes. Each one is a small victory for me.
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ThatCanadianGuy514  +   769d ago
1) I'm not going to wade through your paragraphs of nonsensical rambling

2) Mort didn't spin a story, nobody confronted him with any facts, he didn't back away and this certainly hasn't fallen apart.

How you came to that conclusion is one for the books.

3) This story is only GAINING traction as mort confirms it, Thuway (the originator of the 720p info) confirms it, and the motherload, CBOAT himself.

3 separate well known, trusted insiders all with the same info.

All i can say is, just wait and see for official news.I wonder what your excuse will be then?
MultiConsoleGamer  +   769d ago
1. You already read my comment and you can't reply because you haven't the skills or the vocabulary.

2. "I don't know how the 720p number was come up with... I have no idea if they have real sources or not." Only the biggest idiot in the world would still defend this guy.

3. I don't care about the story itself, I buy all consoles and PC so I always get the best version. This is a point you conveniently ignore because you're a little fanboy warrior. There is a larger issue here that I am addressing, one too vast and far reaching for your tiny mind to grasp.

What's that you say? It burns to get told so hard? Well maybe you can put some ointment on your sore ass.
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ThatCanadianGuy514  +   769d ago
"It burns to get told so hard?"

You didn't discredit a single thing i said.You just continue to ramble on about things that don't make sense or blatantly contradict yourself.

You say you don't care about the story, but your original comment says otherwise.You ignore the fact that this guy, Mort, isn't even the originator of the 720p info (was in fact Thuway and reconfirmed by CBOAT + Mods) But hey, whatever man.

You're obviously so far gone into denial that you can't even accept reality.Trying to get a sensible comment from you is like hoping for intelligence in a youtube comment.

Now quick, ignore what i said completely, and reply to me about how much of a fanboy you aren't.
MultiConsoleGamer  +   769d ago
Blah blah blah CBOAT!

Blah blah blah this somehow matters to you because I say it does!

Blah blah blah you are forced to buy the worst version even though you buy all consoles!

Blah blah blah muh sources!

*grabs popcorn*

It's like watching a small child throw a tantrum.
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solidjun5  +   769d ago
"It's like watching a small child throw a tantrum."


An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   769d ago
"It's like watching a small child throw a tantrum."

Look at your comments, man.The irony is palpable.Whatever.About the response i expected from you.

Just pure stupidity.
NexGen  +   769d ago
My only question is should I report him for immaturity or personal attacks because both fit.
MultiConsoleGamer  +   769d ago
You got told hard. You didn't have the skills to write a decent counter argument. You wasted your life fighting your little console war and defending an obvious liar with no credibility. When you were confronted with the facts your ran from the truth and I laughed at you at every turn.

You are the poster child that represents everything that's wrong with the video game industry. Casual gamers are better than you because they don't care about any of this stuff, they just play games. I have never enjoyed calling out a fanboy more than this. Everyone who loves gaming should do the same. People like you are a plague on the industry.

Oh and one last thing, I'll have both the PS4 and the Xbox One. You won't. Keep up the battle to reinforce your purchase justification issues little fanboy.
Hicken  +   769d ago
Holy crap, MCG. That was embarrassing to watch. It's funny how you talk about tantrums and lack of facts and yet that's literally ALL your comamount to.
reko  +   769d ago

they haz tehhh titanfallzz and teh cloudzz
so watch out. s/
Sarobi  +   769d ago
"now looks like a joke and has no credibility."

I'd rather take the word of a known Gaf insider who has a decent track record, over someone who just wants to speculate they are wrong. Microsoft or IW could of came out and said something by now.. but no.. they haven't. The only thing we have now is "well it looks good".
Smootherkuzz  +   769d ago
Its all bull.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   769d ago
True Bf4 and COD Ghosts have gone Gold. Nothing but FUD created on the other side.
DoesUs  +   769d ago
"Handful of insiders say 720p, Albert says it looks great but has no numbers, CBOAT says 720p (+ Titanfall at 720p), Ben K of PAR says that the internet will blow up soon due to a resolution issue in a big game."

Wonder if the Stereo drivers will up the resolution? Or the hidden DGPU will make it before release date?
sAVAge_bEaST  +   769d ago
Don't worry frigid, that dGPU from the volcanic island series will save the day. (; /s

(or you could always get a Ps4)
Mikeyy  +   769d ago
Speaking about "FUD". Where is that discrete GPU you where telling us about?
FrigidDARKNESS  +   769d ago
Of course these type of comments and responses are expected from you folks on the other side.
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