GameStop president Tony Bartel tells GamesBeat he thinks consumers will reap the benefits of the next generation's innovations.
Xbox One X pre-orders are pleasing GameStop, even if the new console is causing the standard Xbox One to underperform against PS4.
Then the beast will be unleashed!
The most powerful console in world it will be one amazing console, will be the best place to play 3rd party games,racing games and fps with a great online network that is not tacked on.
Thrust - 'the best place to play 3rd party game's' - surely that's a little disappointing to type?
Try almost 4 years of embarrassing xb1 sales. After the holiday rush the xb1x will be the next disappointment.
@thrust
Well, at least you're staying positive. Wonder if 3rd parties will put in the extra effort for a console that will have the least consoles sold in the market? I guess we'll just have to see if your boast will pay off.
Wow who gives a shit how well xyz is selling. Get the consoles and games you enjoy people and let others do the same. If one is selling bad it's up to the company to sort that out not us gamers we are the ones who should sit back relax and have a controller in our hands playing the games we like the most on the consoles of our choice
This is an opportunity for them. If they really push this momentum and expand the trade-in program maybe they can get the majority of Xbox fans on X and then do a few X exclusives.
It's odd/ironic seeing Xbox shills go crazy over resolution. If they cared about resolution so much they wouldn't have bought an Xbox One 4 years ago. I guess they need something to grasp on to because it's looking pretty bleak for them. But I can't really blame them for wanting a new console since the Xbox One is garbage.
It's funny everyone has been screaming how their going to be playing on the most powerful console ever come November. But I've been playing on the most powerful console for the past 3 years.
Did you even read it? Xbox base is doing poorly because people are waiting on X. That's going to mean poor sales on base due to X. So no knock out for the base at all. Hopefully good stuff for the X.
Chris, I am not sure follow you here. Aren't you guys saying the same thing. He isn't saying the unit itself not the base assuming they migrate over. You know it to me that we might get a situation that Aaron may be wrong and X is the driver or we may get a situation where he is right and S with its much cheaper price sells more during the bargain seeking season that is November.
***Chris, I am not sure follow you here. Aren't you guys saying the same thing. ***
***knockout for Xbox 1***
***successful X This season***
A 'knockout for' anything is success. It means they are doing the 'knockout, not being knocked out.
Perhaps there's some confusion in that, but that's how it is read based on what he said.
@chris no need to break down simple comprehension to them, it's just going fall on deaf ears and bad learning.
I still think if your going to purchase a PS4 or and X1 it's bset to purchase the original PS4 and the X slim. The Slim is getting dwarfed but I still think it's a pretty nice piece of tech. They are making a HUGE mistake by not keeping the Slim relevant.
Same thing happened to PS4 Slim when Pro launched. A few weeks down de road and the Xbox One S will be the best selling Xbox One console again. :)
X1X has been coming since June 2016. Didn't stop Xbox One S from beating PS4 in a few NPDs last year. Xbone low sales is the result of a much larger issue, not because of Project Scorpio or X1X. PS4 sales didn't slowed last year because of Pro. LOL. Pro was announced in September last year. XboneS beated PS4 in July and August last year. So, it's before Pro.
Pro was leaked as "Neo", not announced officially like Project Scorpio with official specs. Slim was stolen few weeks before official announcement, yes.
But a majority of buyers knew the pro was coming out so it slowed sales of org PS4 also. Same is happening with Xb1s and XB1X. But in the end XBX1 will sell more in Nov & Dec, then it will be back to the norm of PS4/Pro outselling XB1/XB1X here on out. But if Sony drops price of Pro by $50 who knows what will happen in Nov/Dec?
@butchertroll
"Pro was leaked as "Neo", not announced officially like Project Scorpio with official specs."
The "Neo" specs was leaked before the official announcement, no?
Youre spot on and xouldnt have said it better myself.
The xb1slim tanked in #s just after the holidays and i see the "beastly" xb1x doing the same thing. All it offers over the slim is better resolution... If yall xbox dudes wanted better resolutions clearly you went and bought a ps4pro or pc... Sooo whats left is the x amount of xb1 consumers that didnt upgrade...
Now, the xbox dudes are grasping at straws why the xb1slim is failing... Cant wait to hear their excuses 6-12 months from now.
Sony had it's strongest holiday of sales ever last holiday. Probably part of it was due to PS4P, but only about 20% of the consoles sold were that version, however, actual sales for that period were up more than 20% from the years prior. They had record software sales as well.
Where is this notion that people were waiting it out for PS4P coming from? For the most part, Sony's reported PS4 sales have been pretty consistent YOY, with spikes when big games drop, and then the big spike when they released the PS4P.
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But a majority of buyers knew the pro was coming out so it slowed sales of org PS4 also. Same is happening with Xb1s and XB1X.
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It didn't. And PS4 sales didn't slowed before leak, official announcement and after. So, NO!
You didn't read what i wrote about X.
Again : X1X has been coming since June 2016. Didn't stop Xbox One S from beating PS4 in a few NPDs last year. Xbone low sales is the result of a much larger issue, not because of Project Scorpio or X1X. PS4 sales didn't slowed last year because of Pro. LOL. Pro was announced in September last year. XboneS beated PS4 in July and August last year. So, it's before Pro."
So, according to your logic, Xbone sales were slowed down after E3 2016. Project Scorpio announcement didn't affect Xbone sales. Xbone, one way or another, was outsold by PS4 anyway. Xbone low sales is the result of a much larger issue
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The "Neo" specs was leaked before the official announcement, no?
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Few of them ( cheaper and expensive one ), yes. But not announced straightforward like with Project Scorpio.
Fanboys and haters are never happy, always have to go on and on and on about the very things they don't own, believing that what they own can never be touched and that none of the competition can do anything better.
Can't see the xbox brand catching up to PS this gen...unless MS purchase some super high end Japanese properties or something huge like that...Very doubtful...What i do see is the X selling significantly better than the Pro and by the time Sony starts the "next gen" race in three years, Xbox consoles will be a quite a bit closer to Sony's consoles than most people thought possible. X is going to do well.
X will probably sell at the same rate as pro or a little less. Seriously if you look into GameStops comment pleased isn't much praise
The X sold in one hour what the pro have sold in 2017 on Amazon. The X Will outsell the pro by the end of this year.
That seems pretty spot on. It'll sell a little more than the Pro initially, then it'll be a little less.
GS is always pleased or excited over new hardware launching. It tends to push business into their store. I've never seen them say bad things about new hardware....even the WiiU.
If something wasn't selling well, they wouldn't say so, because it doesn't help them sell systems if people think something isn't that popular, or they can easily wait it out to buy.
or ever - they just have the wrong way of looking at gaming. They can't seem to grasp or don't want to grasp what makes a console maker successful. Game's. It's that simple games. Is it easy to make a good game - no.
But you've got to at least try.
this bs that Microsoft has no games is blown way out of proportion... Microsoft has some of the best exclusive games ever made. yes sony has more but exclusives aren't the reason Microsoft is losing this generation
they killed them selves out of the gate with there drm policies underpowerd and over priced console forcing
people to buy kinect.
3rd party games playing @ higher resolution on ps4 was absolutely the biggest factor in Microsoft
losing this gen to sony... just look @ 3rd party games they lead every single year in metrics charts
over exclusives it's not even close.
Microsoft tring to reach a broader audience with there underpowerd tv box for the living room was a don mettrics
nightmare for xbox and absolutely destroyed everything Microsoft had achieved with the 360
now Microsoft has seen power is why they lost the hardcore gamers and the x1x will help bring some of those hardcore gamers back.
this will not win this generation for Microsoft but it does help them going forward
and the biggest thing to take away from this is Microsoft has realized in today's market power does matter
and with there bankroll will never lose the hardcore gamer buy producing an underpowerd product
in the future.
xsta1ker - that's where your wrong, a few frames here and there, a little pop- in means nothing. The PS3 overtook the 360 because of exclusives, MS watching their lead dwindle year on year didn't wake them up to this fact.
But we have the most sales for COD and exclusive rights blah blah. Now Sony has that in the arsenal as well as exclusives.
MS are just looking for the easy way, they'll spend more on advertising/marketing than actual game development.
They are, and will always be 3rd in console gamers eyes.
@LastCenturyRob
"by the time Sony starts the "next gen" race in three years, Xbox consoles will be a quite a bit closer to Sony's consoles than most people thought possible. X is going to do well."
the gap is now over 30mil units worldwide. by the time the XboneX is out, I guess it will easily be over 35mil by then. the only way for the xbone to "be a quite a bit closer to Sony's consoles than most people thought possible" like you said is for it to start outselling the PS4 heavily or the gap is only gonna get wider. but how? I can't see the X selling well aside from the US and maybe UK but that's about it. I think instead of looking at the PS4, MS should be looking out for the Switch or how to at least get to 50 mil at the rate that they are selling.
I think you better lower your expectation as this gen is already done and dusted. the X is just another excuse for MS to save face this gen. I think they just wanna end the gen with at least "the most powerful console" title in the bag. they are outsold heavily, game sales have been tremendously huge in the PS4's favor and even their once most bragged exclusives in Halo and Gears are not selling gangbusters as they did last gen. I remember last gen when xbox fanboys were calling Uncharted as ripping of Gears's cover mechanic and it will never sell Halo numbers only to be humiliated this gen by UC4. ahh...good times! but hey...at least they have the most power now, right?
Have they ever said anything different when talking preorder numbers for any console? lol
Nope, they always talk positively about new hardware.
not that they aren't telling the truth, as new hardware does tend to sell quickly in the console space. I don't even question that aspect of consumerism anymore because I understand there are enough people out there into gaming to pick up a large initial shipment for pretty much anything.
they need to watch out for the noncompetitor. being outsold by a nintendo gadget might pretty much tell them to call it quits. unless.. they too are headin for another branch.. namely the living room where games are not their main focus anymore.
Well it's not surprising now with only a few months away that everyone who would go for a ms console to go directly for an XoneX anyway.
Ms won't be so bothered about the standard Xbox one once the x1x is released.
Apart from a couple of months here and there Sony have had the sales over the standard Xbox one but even 30 million consoles sold is a heck of a lot.
I don't think this gen ms can catch up in sales, but they could certainly close the gap by a fair amount if the x1x sells well and it seems preorders are doing great, much better than what the fanboys and haters predicted anyway shame on them all.
a number of people like me held off buying the xbox one s last year to get a scorpio. So its held off sales for a while now.
Ive already got a user friendly ps4 pro, why the hell would i want a clunky, annoying xbox, i couldnt stand the xbox one s, so glad i got my money back when i sold that peice of junk.
I find it amazing people still shop at GameStop still, or at least the ones that buy games for themselfs (not parents)
Well, it's not a surprise. The old fan of Microsoft are going to change their system with the new one. I guess not so many "new console players" have pre-ordered it. If on 30 millions (random number) of Xbone users 5 millions are going to change the system ad buy the Xbonex, you have 5 millions of units sold. But after that? When everyone has changed the system, who's gonna buy an overpriced console that plays the same games of the old ones (with better graphics ok, but doesn't offer anything else)?
The PS4 Pro effect was about the same. Now the Slim sells a lot and the Pro sells.. mh.. normally? I didn't analyze sorry :P
the ps4 proless sells normally compared to what... 2% adoption rate is far from normal anything. it was dead in the water from the start even the die hard sonyfans new
sony tried selling them a 400$ off the shelf upgrade hens no sales.
It's really hard to say, because the forums I visit don't tend to get a lot of new people visiting it to really gauge how people outside the Xbox fan base may think of it. I don't see a lot of talk about the system outside the Xbox fan base though, which is atypical for new hardware that may have widespread appeal.
95% of comments on this website are just embarrassing. Constant fanboy vs fanboy arguing.
OT - it's nice to see the Xbox trying to gain some pace against PlayStation, and competition is good, but I don't think the new Xbox is going to create such an impact as expected. The new Forza looks really nice and I'm sure will play great. They need more than just that and a couple of other exclusive titles though... in my opinion.
it has all the best looking AAA 3rd party games now plus over 100 enhanced
games before it's even launched not to mention xbox exclusives.
that should sell quite a few x1x's in the next year and will easily out sell the pro.
Microsoft doesnt expect the Xbox One X to outperform the Xbox One S so I'm wondering how that will perform when compared to the Pro.
We have all the future assumption and conjecture based on no specific factual data to look forward to for the next year at least.:)
Hmmmm I'm I own a pro and I'm gonna buy an x so I can play the best games from both platforms want to throw money away buy a switch for its 3 games
I still have my doubt Microsoft will come top in any NPD this year to be honest. If Sony do a price drop around November time on both the Pro and Slim then even the XOX release that won't help Microsoft come top in NPD. If Nintendo get there act together and put more Switch consoles in stores in time for Christmas I can see that being the top selling console for November/December.
I think the best thing Sony could do to draw attention away from X1X launch is to release a $300 PS4P bundle with one or more of their high profile games. GT:S will likely help as well. The stock consoles I don't think are really in the running for competing with the mid-gens in this regard, as they're getting to the casual price point, and $199 is likely coming pretty soon. Anyhow, a $200 price difference would make it really hard for people to justify the power increase as worth it. $100 could be more of an on the fence thing for a lot of people, because $100 more isn't really that much....kind of like how the PS4P wasn't that much more than the PS4 when it released, so I could see people spending a bit more.
Sony at the moment have 3 top bundles releasing soon and 2 of them are Pro bundles. First up is the white PS4 Pro Destiny 2 bundle coming early next month. Here in the UK it's £350 for this bundle plus also includes Destiny 2 season pass. This whole bundle is the same RRP as a standalone PS4 Pro console.
Then you have the FIFA 18 Pro bundle. Which comes with the £80 Ronaldo Edition. Price is £399 so £50 more than the Destiny bundle but if someone wants both the Ronaldo edition and a PS4 Pro that bundle will save them £30.
Then you have the PS4 GT Sport Slim bundle. Comes with the special edition of the game. GT is very big here in the UK and I can see a lot of people getting this bundle (console looks very nice).
Then I imagine come November Sony will have a bundle maybe even a special edition pro bundle for Call Of Duty and Star Wars Battlefront 2.
Xbone Ex will be DOA just as the billion other Xbone console iterations before it, as well as the billion others that will come after it.
I challenge this site to not upload or approve another anti Microsoft article for an entire day.
Impossible!
Was pretty clear the standard Xbox One was under performing all year long compared to the PS4. I don't know how much of this you hang on the fact that they announced X1X launching this year. Sure you had some holding off but I think in general the year has been a struggle for the standard Xbox regardless. MS needed a boost..X1X gives them a nice boost but they will still have work to do. Sony of course should continue on the current path but I do wonder if they will at some point do some promos around the Pro this year.
idk why but I giggle when that word is used..."we are very pleased....." xD
Just let November get here, then the following months and when the status quo is the same we'll see what next thing will come along that will have all the Xbots going crazy. Hopefully there a some new exclusive games we don't know about if not then well then back to the status quo.
GameStop executives wax poetic on the success of the Nintendo Switch since its launch.
Good for them. They are banking on those accessories. I don't see me getting much, maybe a carrying case and one of those screen protectors.
I see me maybe buying 3 games by the time I buy a Switch. Rabbids RPG, Animal Crossing and SMTV if its out by then, so.....well that would be 5 "accessories" for them then lol
Got a switch last month still only have zelda, but will be getting mario+ next week and whenever the physical sonic mania game comes, and golf story comes I'll be getting both of those.
They may not have the quantity of options as the competition but they definitely have the quality. Zelda is one of the best games ever and have about 50 hours in and no where near finishing the game.
Nice!
I ended up getting Zelda on Wii U instead, I beat it a little while ago. Beat Sonic Mania a few days ago on PS4....that game is just....EPIC CLASSIC SONIC! Post how that Mario Rabbids RPG game is like!
@_-EDMIX-_
I get why you are waiting. Maybe a cool color option will be available for you.
I got mine day 1 just because I wanted Zelda on the Switch and could afford it. Mario Odyssey looks pretty dope and more like Mario64.
I hope they bring Smash Bros Wii U. That is one of the most understandable rereleases to me because it is already such a well balanced game with 50+ fighters. But just add more over the systems lifetime.
Also, when you buy a Switch, get a Pro Controller. It's on the level of a PS4 controller.
@Uken- "I get why you are waiting. Maybe a cool color option will be available for you"
Actually just more games. I only buy Nintendo portables for Animal Crossing, Kirby etc. Some games look good like Rabbids Mario RPG game, but not enough to buy it right now, but will buy it Animal Crossing comes out. I ended up getting Zelda on Wii U and beating it. I played it on Switch a few times and I'm happy to have just waited considering.
I have a short list of Nintendo games I do want for it, but Animal Crossing is when I buy. Did it for DS and 3DS, will do the same for Switch. I use to only like the console Animal Crossings, but New Leaf did it right. For the most part, I simply didn't like not being able to have the gameboy player to just play it on TV, but with Switch being able to out to the TV....not a issue, plus after New Leaf, I like the concept of a portable Animal Crossing and put like 300 hours in it.
"Also, when you buy a Switch, get a Pro Controller. It's on the level of a PS4 controller."
I already planned for like 3 accessories and now its up to 4 lol
I want to just use the regular controller set up as much as I can as I don't really see me playing much action type games to really need that controller, but I might get one used if a game comes out that I want to play it with. Animal Crossing and Rabbids RPG are pretty passive games.
The other guy suggested you get a pro controller, I agree. What I don't agree with is saying it is on the "level" of a ps4 controller, it is 100x better than a ps4 controller. It literally was 3 weeks in before I had to charge my controller, compared to having to charge my ps4 one at least once a day. Also it feels perfect in my hand, more so than both the ps4s and xboxs.
So I wholeheartedly endorse getting a pro controller, the thing is a marvel
I still like the gamecube controller and actually wish they just kept using that one and make it wireless or upgrade it or something.
Good to hear the pro controller feels that good though. I might end up buying after if I can find a good one used or something. I plan to play a lot at home.
Didn't Nintendo claim the Wii U had a successful launch also ?, and in the end we all know how it end up. lol
lol
this is Gamestop saying they had the most successful. Based on their accessories and such.
You OBVIOUSLY haven't kept up with ANYTHING regarding the switch then, lol. Ignorance is bliss, I guess...
From Nov. 2012-Feb. 2013 for Wii U yes after that NO
The Wii U sold 4.3m in it's first year. Switch did more than that in 2.5 month
Nintendo ain't claiming anything dumbass. It's game stop saying this. Typical brainless zombiefied sony fanboy.
Im disappointed with the switch myself. It didn't launch with enough content. it was fun for a bit but it has been packed away in my drawer for months now waiting for Mario
That is on you. There has really been plenty to play on it.
Mario Kart is great fun with friend coop. Arms and Splatoon 2 are awesome to play online and are very addicting. Sonic Mania brought back so many nostalgic. This month we also have Mario+Rabbids.
To each of his own I guess.
GameStop has expressed to be impressed by the Xbox Scorpio, and the retailer believes that the console will have some great titles.
Indeed.... I hope they have a lot of games to show it's power.
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Yeah, a monster in hideous looks perhaps. As far as tech wise, it sure is a GDDR5 beast just like the original PS4 has been since 2013.
Like the Pro that went with 1GB DDR3 for extra over the base PS4?
But you say Scorpio will sport GDDR5 along with extra like the Pro saw? Hrm... Kinda seems like you're clearly stating PS4 will become the inferior console then downgraded portions of their mid-gen upgrade.
That GDDR5 helps perfectly replicate PS3 games though yeah? How about PS2 & PSOne games? Gives you native 4K? Plays a 4K Blu-Ray? Does great things for much outside of graphics that it doesn't max out?
Forgot about the 4k Blu-ray thing... I might bite but I'd need to see some exclusives outside of Halo/Forza/Gears/Crackdown. If the next Mistwalker game is XB-only I might... MIGHT bite.
@Exvalos: The original Xbox One contains Jaguar
http://www.tomshardware.com...
With a better gpu/cpu that has a memory buffer of 320gb OVER 100gb more then PS4Pro!
Scorpio in a way has the power of putting a PS4Pro and PS4 together
@BigWan78 I would need to have had a past "relationship" with any Xbox console for that to be the case (you know, the way it is with EVERY single Xbot out there that either guaranteed had a PS1 or PS2 back in the day before Gears of War came out in 2006 and changed thier lives forever).
It would make more sense for you to claim I was jealous but then, what would i be jealous of exactly with the games I've got on PS4 in early 2017 alone? And we still have TLOU Pt II, Days Gone, Spiderman, God of War, Detroit Become Human and Dreams on the way.
@Crotaaa Yet your comment history shows plenty of bias toward hating Sony so you honestly think you are the one to be saying that???
Preparing myself for a $600 price tag for the Scorpio; can't see it any cheaper than $600.
Microsoft is worth $510 billion; Sony is worth $34.1 billion
Really puts it in perspective doesn't it?
Apple and Google are worth more than both, it's completely irrelevant. Microsoft isn't spending the same kind of money on the Xbox platform that Sony is spending on Playstation.
I wouldn't think so, remember its looking a tad more powerful than a PS4 with more easy room with its 12gbs of memory to work with. The question will be, will their be 2 models of it like a cheap one at 400 but with a 500gb hard drive and a 500 one with the 2tb or something.
A tad more powerful? It's a PS4 Pro and an additional PS4 worth of power out of the GPU. Now if there's an upgraded CPU and more ram it will be far more then a Tad bit more powerful
In terms of vs PS4-Pro I can only imagine it will be a tad better in practice. Some 1800p games will be 4K but because of checkerboard it's not going to make a huge difference.
Now if Scorpio maxed out the 6 TFLOPS by going 1800p and checkerboard with upgraded graphics, we'd see a bigger gap. But few games are going to be especially optimized for Scorpio. They'll get a miniscule res bump and that's it. By time MS comes with a beast app PS5 will be here and it's too little too late.
Devs already make games that scale for pc. Same process. When installed on Scorpio, it unpacks the highest settings.
@OmnislashVer36 Exactly, nail on the head mate. All these delusional people that think Scorpio is going to have mind blowing games when the games still have to target the lowest common denominator, the original Xbone.
@Kribwalker That's just it, we aren't talking about a generation difference in architecture like the PS4 is compared to the original Xbone. They are both the same GDDR5 with Scorpio clearly being higher in overall spec. But let me guess, back in 2013 "the Xbone and PS4 are practically the exact same thing".
I think it will be 500 but if they do 400 then it will sell at ludicrous speed. I personally think 500 is a good price with kinect and a elite controller. I still have my kinect but i still think it should be bundled. The elite controller is a must though.
I see it at $500. That's really the highest price they should go for this unless they want to lose a lot of sales. Only hardcore gamers will get it for $600. They shouldn't even bring this to Japan at all. Maybe is 2-3 years from now when it's about $300 or less then get ship a couple thousand over there. lol!! They won't buy it for $500 or even $400 so why bother.
Its going to be another month before we start to get more solid detail on what the final Scorpio will have under the hood.
No, going to be another 2 months of rumors. E3 will be concrete details. I just really wonder how they plan to market the thing. What is their end goal of it. Anything short of a full unveil and a clear direction.
What they need to do is start by showing some first party titles that look exciting and new. Just look at the original Xbox, Dreamcast, beginning of the PS3, all of them had more power than the competition but lacked in games. It is very easy to stay in this industry... make games.
Hype is building all aboard the scorpio train folks. The 4K beast is will be revealed in 3 months.
Gamestop excited. E3 gonna be lit.
Gamestop said it is a 4k machine, which is why they are excited for it. They also believe it will sell well.
Lol, indeed.
@ TheCommentator
Lol, at your naivety, indeed.
Liqu1d covered exactly why that is.
Yeah man! Can't wait to get more news on E3! Especially on the amazing games that are coming out!
Oh wait... I was thinking of a different console.
Like Cuphead and what? Are we missing something here??? "amazing games that are coming out"? You mean another Crackdown sequel by NOT the original game's team again? That's already "amazing" to you?
Yeah right? Those amazing games from last gen being offered with backwards compatibility at no additional cost.
Oh sorry. Just realized I'm talking about the company written about while you aren't. 🙂 Definitely not the same company. I forgot the other doesn't allow you to merely play those same games again without a cost being involved somewhere.
But hey! Enjoy the limited exclusive Crash from the 90s and Wipeout from the same era. I'm sure $40 each isn't too much.
Lol @ people taking it so seriously. Kionic is my brother from another mother.
I do have to say @TheUndertaker, you making fun about exclusives is just silly. I mean, I expect that from Kionic, but you should know better
HA...
Oh Lord Phil has prepared a slew a banquet feast of games.
Overfilling the chalice!
Are they really exclusive if they're available on PSOne along with playable on PS2 & PS3? I'm confused as that seems to be the PlayStation ecosystem but oddly Xbox & Windows aren't considered the same as it's not the same platform.
Because if so Xbox has many more exclusives that PlayStation fanboys choose to label as cross platform while products like this are somehow "exclusive". Further with titles moving to PS Now then playable on PC are they still exclusive as it seems that's exactly what MS has been doing but natively and with less cost to the end user.
But, you can pay for those titles again if you wish. The topic Scorpio will play past gen games just the same with no cost to the end user.
His point is. If not priced right if price around lets say 600 or 650? That will be DOA... I dont see it being less then 550$
@peewee11016
I agree with you. Considering the Scorpio is coming out close to a year later [correct me if I'm wrong on that ] than the PS4 Pro, & the Pro is priced around $450 I believe, the Scorpio is going to have to be of more than a $50 Quality/Value over the PS4 Pro.
We don't know the specs as of yet but I imagine it should almost be @least twice as powerful( * @ minimum very close to it * ) as the Pro, if that ends up being the case, the price range $550 - $600 @ least.
Its all speculation of course, but I do feel strongly that Scorpio is going to need to be vastly superior to the PS4 Pro in terms of power, to help lend to its legitimacy.
When Scorpio specs / price $ are officially known, we'll all have a better grasp on what Microsoft's future plans are for the XB1 platform.
That's exactly what microsoft is expecting. They've stated that already. Xbox one S is for mass market, scorpio is for the more hardcore crowd. Two good options.
@chris
"More people will still opt for the cheaper Xbox one S then the Scorpio"
Xbox one sales are super low, them new Scorpio will be even much lower.
Well that's what I'm understanding...
Xbox one sales are not 'super low'. PS4 is having a mega gen but Xbox is still selling faster than last gen. You need some perspective.
You know something is not right, when you let Gamestop do the PR talking for you.
I would rather have some random developer (I'm looking at you gamingbolt) do the PR talking than GameStop.
"GameStop say product they will sell is good and you should buy it".
GameStop do this for every console release, save perhaps the original Xbox One that threatened their second hand cash cow.
Lol....I guess you havent been keeping up with a few devs already praising the console.
MS doesn't have any control over what Gamestop says unless they ask them for adverstisment. This isn't advertisement.
GameStop, a retailer, is telling something good about a product that they hope to sell a lot of...
GS had good things to say about the WiiU as well. Something along the lines of being impressed by it, and it's launch line up.
While the WiiU wasn't a bad console, and the launch line up was half decent, we all know that didn't mean much in the end.
Not sure why it matters what they think about it. Seems what they say is the same thing the Xbox fan boys say, so without any more details, it's kind of a useless comment.
@rainslacker
"Seems what they say is the same thing the Xbox fan boys say, so without any more details, it's kind of a useless comment."
Did you read the article?
“Unfortunately we can’t talk about a lot other than what’s known”
They´re under NDA so its kind of obvious they will not talk about the Scorpio´s specs and details. And yeah, for those excited about the Scorpio (like myself) is good to know the console is shaping up well.
All positive comments towards the Scorpio will be considered "useless" by some people for some reason.
Never said they could say anything, just what they say is about as useful as what the fan boys say, because they aren't offering up anything that we don't already know.
And yes, at this point, unless those positive comments have some new info to give, it's kind of useless, because as of right now, there isn't much to talk about other than the speed of the GPU, and the memory architecture.
Ok enough of the hype. We need REAL info MS. Specs, PRICE, availability etc. If this thing retails for anything north of $599 it is DOA. Then again this is M$. The company that sells a $149 controller.
The sad thing is you're monster card will poop all over this machine and by the time it comes out it will probably be about the same price anyway.
Don't even need to go that far, the affordable 1070 will even beat Scorpio handily.
It says hi to PS4 Pro too. What's your point? Our high end PCs will always beat the consoles in graphics and performance.
And a very expensive unit TBA at E3. Very curious about the price.
It wont be. The thing isnt all that much more powerful than the Pro. A year later it should cost how much the Pro cost a year earlier. I would say 399-450 max.
You're one of the few people that gets it. Scorpio will be between $399 and $499.
I accurately predicted the coming of mid gen upgraded consoles, the price of the PS4 Pro, the fact that the majority of games on both PS4 and XB1 would run at 30fps (despite the fact many people were claiming 60fps at the time), the merging of Microsoft's Xbox and Windows gaming efforts, and many other changes and events in gaming. I've been paying attention to the gaming industry for three decades and this has given me an understanding of its workings and has allowed to me to accurately predict a lot of changes. I truly think the price will be between $399 and $499. All these people predicting $599, $699 and $799 are likely in for a surprise.
Hope so, we need another console war. With PlayStation leading the way for so many years it's quite dull.
I don't think they need to worry about it, Sony has already won the console war.
@ timotim
Ahem..... Sony doesn't need to worry about Scorpio, is what he implied. Sony already has the games covered. They are beating Microsoft to a pulp in that regard. Checkerboard rendered 4K is already providing too impressive of a feat 12 months prior to Scorpio to provide any means for Microsoft to take the carpet out from under them. So, what are you talking about?
Microsoft will likely have a strong holiday, of course including Scorpio and XB1 games that they have delayed all year for it to have a strong launch, which they will use to PR their PR, and Xbox fanboys will use it to try and make claims to the effect of "tables being turned" like they do every single year around those last 3 months of the year. Then January arrives and nothing has changed, and Sony keeps showing us why they are the market leader.
They are doing exactly what they need to. Tell me how the competition having a more powerful console for another 24 months starting holiday 2017, is going to slow the PS4's momentum when their games lineup is more impactful and insurmountable, and Nintendo will be there offering their share of GOTY contenders in addition to Sony's?
https://www.amazon.com/Xbox...
That should get you started since you are having trouble finding games for it.
I'm sure it will be. Hopefully on the outside its not a betamax player eyesore like the original Xbone is though.
Do they ever say anything negative about a hardware or software provider? Anyway I'm curious about it but they're going to have to knock it out of the park this e3. I'm certain graphically it'll wow ppl and plenty will go out and buy it for that reason, I wanna see those exclusives tho and an affordable price point.
I mean... it's at 6TF console, that's to be expected. The game will have great titles, that's to be expected... the Xbox One has great titles now. The only thing I'm wondering is... what's up with all the GameStop articles recently, I thought GameStop was a hated and untrustworthy company?
People saying 'Scorpio' will be DOA etc because of the price... they don't understand the business model.
It's not a separate console that needs to reach a critical mass on the sales front in order to make it a viable platform and attract developers... it's one and the same with the existing xbox ecosystem so from microsofts point of view it doesn't matter whether you have XB1S, Scorpio or Windows PC.... all 3 give them the potential to sell software into.
The Scorpio is a great option for those that like the simplicity of a console but are willing to pay for the performance of a gaming PC.
I really hope they pull it off, I've been a bit of an xbox fanboy for years but this year I have found myself leaning towards the PS4 pro I picked up due to the exclusives... Last of Us, Until Dawn and of course, I can now play my beloved Titanfall 2 in 1440p and almost perfect 60fps frame rate. (Put about 50 hours in on xbox version and loved it but the PS4 pro version is so much sweeter!)
Company that sells only video game stuffs hypes upcoming video game console. NEWS AT 11
That's nice but the important question is...will it have a plethora of original exclusive games when it's released.
And how many of the multiplats will have Scorpio support?
And will the Scorpio versions really look better than the competitor's?
There are many things that I want but sadly wouldn't go over well with other people.....
What else would Gamstop say, Don't buy this console it has no games and we dont want to make money?
Instead of buying a $450 dollar console, why not buy a $450 dollar graphics card that will wipe it's @$$ with this?
Because most people are only willing to pay out so much for a product, before cost outweighs the need.
Good example would be phones. What would you prefer, paying out top price for an iPhone or pay out half the cost for a near similar spec wise phone. They both do the same, just the cost is different.
When it comes to gaming it's the same. Even though consoles are cheaper than PC, they offer the same game experience. BF1, AC, ME all play the same no matter the platform
Unless you're stuck in the 50's, you should already have some PC in your house.It's just a matter of buying a good graphics card.
In this day and age, a lot of people only have a tablet, which is enough. Also, without a good CPU and RAM, you can't play the games either.
Cause the PC you'll need to actually use that graphics card will cost even more. Stop trying to fool people into thinking that high end gaming is cheap.
GameStop says...
Do people actually care about what they think? I sure as hell don't.
Meanwhile GameStop's earnings drop... a coincidence? Not a chance! They know their business is shrinking and they need all the boxes sold they can get their hands on to survive.
I was in the market for a new console, and I've already got the PS4 at home.
I currently study in Japan, and I thought "Why not, I should give Xbox a chance, they've made such excellent franchises that I enjoyed as a kid, I'll see if I can pick one up". So I go to my nearest store and I can't even find one. Not even a single piece of evidence to it ever being sold. So I bought a PS4 again.
End of story.
The Xbox no longer exists, in Japan, it's simply a myth. Cheers!
Bear in mind, this is the same company that said Switch will outsell Wii, lol.
Yeah to the hell yeah , can't wait to get my unit. No need to hate enjoy and allow others to enjoy
Well said.
Too many naive/gullible people in this comment section and not enough people purporting common sense.
Show me the games! The hardware can be great on paper but it's worth nothing to me without a solid list of titles.
One they don't got game or any real company foces on blowing us gamer mind. like PlayStation company luv them got the best game and support behind them. Fan of both but see Ms, online can only take you so far.
I'm pre-ordering as soon as they start taking them. I've got high hopes for its launch. Maybe this time they can make a REAL Halo game. With particle effects galore and insane textures. It's all about the games.
If it was all about the Particle effects and Textures then why not switch to a PC? Graphics dont make a great game buddy
No, but amazing graphics and smoother framerates do make a good game even more enjoyable to play.
Let's hope Microsoft show us some great games for this beast. At the end of the day that's what matters right.
And just like that...a mere glimpse of the hatred fueled anguish that will send Scorpio articles shooting through the roof.
Thank you fanboys... you will create the buzz.
And I cannnot wait to purchase the Xbox VEGA.
Did MS change their stance on exclusives or is everything coming out for the scorpio also coming to Xbox One.
Xbox was never a king,
xbox third place,
xbox360 third place,
xbox one is tricky its hanging on what nintendo sells, but it will be second or third place.
Yeah! thats gamestop all right! WHatever they can say so people go buy hardware! cause they are selling less games each day.
What I find funny is the fact that Gamestop always says this when a new console come's out!
Actually, did Gamestop ever said: this new console as fail to impress us or we find it lacking?
That's good to hear GameStop. I can't wait to pre-order the Scorpio direct from the Microsoft Store 😘
So a company was impressed by a console? How does does something that is not human have an opinion?
It's not going to be called *The Scorpio* you guys, More likely it's going to be called : One Powerful Unit.
I'm certainly hoping for the best. The best $700 can buy. I'm right, and it's all right.
OK MS but where are the new Ip's seriously if they don't show something at E3 that excites people then it will be DOA. Some people will buy the Scorpio no matter what but if this thing is more than 500 bucks it's not going to be mainstream specially if the PS4 drops it's price and the Switch starts to drop more games.
Very powerful, really strong, mad sexy, I don't give a shit. Tell me what Its going to cost. 450 i'm in. Anything more than that its a wrap.
Yea yea it will be super powerful. Xbox fanboys will have a wank over it, nobody else will care. Pretty much just like the xbox one. Microsoft can compete with Sony on the hardware side but they are light years away on the software front which is way more important. Software sells hardware. Nobody can argue that. Better bring the games microsoft but everyone knows they'll just being more halo, gears and forza with a timed 3rd party exclusive. Microsoft don't give a damn about making new ip or building their 1st party portfolio.
That's because they want to resell their used games. They almost lost Xbox one this generation.
Before Xbox one came out, Microsoft announced that physical discs would be installed into the system and then you can basically throw it away.
https://www.wired.com/2013/...
I remember getting an email from Microsoft because I was on the so-called "first to know" emailing list.
That and always online, oh and the line that was siad"if you want to play Xbox games offline we have a system and it's called the Xbox 360." That and how I had to buy three 360's because RRD is why I passed on Xbox One and I have had no regrets in making that decision. I watched that press conference and I swear my jaw was on the floor. I thought Sony's unveiling of the PS3 was bad but Microsoft's E3 in 2013 took the cake.
Project Scorpio or Xbox X the official name (what it will be called) at the reveal is causing a stir. I like all this popcorn willy waving, it makes good reading - Barry (Boomerang Grenade).
Obviously Scorpio is looking to have impressive specs but the idea "Gamestop" has any merit behind its voice in such spec reference is puzzling.
There will be real time reflections in the Chief's visor and you'll be able to rocks in the tread in the tires in Forza lol.
Only diehard Xboxfanboys are hyping up the Scorpio. Look at gamesites who post anything about the scorpio.
The comments are run over by Xboxfanboys, alot off them are posting also on other gamingsites.
The casual gamers dont care about the Scorpio. The most of them dont know that the Scorpio is comming and dont even know what the Scorpio is.
what a pity. microsoft is the new nintendo. they can put out whatever they want. as long as they are not learning that their basic business is games that thrill gamers i call them delusional. nintendo would be great, if they acknowledged that there were industry and market standards. microsofts bone would be awesome if there was an incentive to buy it if you got ps4+pc.
That's so true. Sure they have some games but none of them interest me, not one. When you say that you are called a Sony fanboy. Well if Microsoft would invest in studios and create new and exciting IP's I'd buy their system in a heartbeat. The people who blindly follow a company who seems incapable of created great games are the fan boys. You can go back and look at my past posts and I list Xbox games that I loved and I've owned two Xbox's and three 360's so if I want to complain about how much Microsoft sucks with how they are doing things today then I will. They've gotten a lot of my cash over the years and I've earned the right to criticize them. Hell they just need to start making good games and quit launching a system giving up on it then try and create the so called most powerful system in history because if they don't have any games and I mean ones that haven't been milked to death then I'm done with them fo good.
People do get that theres an obvious benefit for Gamestop to make these kinds statements right, I mean people do get that? Lol, they're hardly an impartial party here.
They can provide a more powerful console than a latest gaming PC, it's no good because they have no exclusives worth playing, only multiplatform domination.
Well announce three new IP's and maybe two that haven't been seen in years and maybe I'll take notice.
GameStop will say anything, that's not hating, for any product they are going to say it's worth its weight in gold.
It could release with a port of ET from the 80s as its only launch game, GameStop will try to get those preorders up.
@vega275 "All i see from yours and many sonyfanboy comments. Are that everyone should love sony and the ps4 as you do. That any game released on X1 and PC doesn't count. But ps4 and PC does."
Lol I never said anything about loving Sony and the Ps4....
All I am saying can't you see what is going on...
I never hate MS games nor Xbox consoles...I have Gears 4...and was thinking of getting a xboxone for it but in the end, I got it for Windows.
I loved the xbox360, it had the games I wanted and I played the hell out of Gears and Halo, Lost Odyssey and many others...
But as soon as MS unveiled the Xboxone...I was like ummm...then MS did try reverse all of that and I was in the verge to buy a Xboxone S! but then UMMM again...they announced a Scorpio!!! what does that tell me as a corporation!
You said only sony and nintendo are for the gamers because MS is trying to be on everything. Isn't that also what sony is doing with putting ps4 games on psnow on?
We can all agree that MS dropped the ball when they announced the the xbox one had to do check in every 24 hours by being online which angered a lot if gamers. But it had nothing to do with "Exclusive" or "first party support" which is a BS arguement. Especially when sony relied on indies and third party support in the beginning.
I bought the xbox one cause i love the games it offered. I traded in my xbox one for the s cause i have a 4k tv and i will be trading in my x1s for the scorpio when it comes out. What that tell me that the corporation is doing nothing different than what sony is doing with ps4, ps4 slim, and ps4pro. So what is that saying about sony hmmmm.
Isn't that what the oneS is for? why bring out the Scorpio?
Playstation 4 > slim> Pro is not exactly Xboxone S > Scorpio
But I have respect for owners of any console and respect their decisions
But I am just saying my opinion out...Sony is just moving forward with the times but they are about gamers first and foremost...you can look at the games which are out now and future releases...
Even if MS brought out a 50tf Xbox people would still find something to complain about or blatantly fabricate some mythical story still why Sony and the PS4 is still better and can never do no wrong!
For those that might find what I said hard to understand I am simply "hyperthetically" speaking..
And for those that still have no idea then why are you even here? Just to make up those mythical stories about machines you don't even have!?
Who gives a fuck if its super powerful but has no games? People..please. Don't fall for this shit again. Microsoft fail to support their consoles outside of the first couple of years. Once they have your money from the console they don't give a shit about keeping you..
If you want to spend 700+ for the purpose of having a "powerful" machine then just get a fucking PC..
My question is what the hell does GAMESTOP know about how powerful X-Scorpio is going to be? They are a Hardware retail & software store. What, do they have hardware access to the spec makeup at Microsoft & Amd? This reads more to me nothing more than a marketing ploy by Gamestop, I bet they don't have a freaking clue whats actually in the Scorpio. Their just happy to have another console in their store to profit off of. That's how I'm reading their statement.
LOL this news has the controlling portion of N4G acting like chickens with their heads cut off. What do we do? How do we downplay this?
I can almost guarantee that we will see PS4/PRO better looking titles than Scorpio at E3 (they probably show some tech demo showing capability of new hardware) with all due respect to MS but they seem can't make any AAA new IP which what they desperately need, but they seems don't care, and they doing that on purpose, instead making same old franchises, they should acquire new studios, imagine how better it would be if they would be as competitive as they have been with 360 era, gaming would be healthier than ever before.
The incomming scorpio is the reason i and many others have held off on getting a playstation pro... We all know the day scorpio launches is the day the pro gets a pricecut and better incentives!
Yeah maybe so but without the great games like ps4 has to back it up it still won't be worth it. I still haven't seen an Xbox game that has me rushing out to go buy an Xbox. All the exclusives have been mediocre or let downs
Gamestop wants us to voice our opinion for next gen so that they can stay in business. They need to give consumers a big fat discount.
I think consumers will lose, since they now have to pay for online on PS4 and Xbox One.
The rational consumers!
I will get both x1 and ps4 day 1 but the winner will be sony
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