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DigitalRaptor  +   998d ago
The ability to use my own pre-subscribed Internet bandwidth to connect to games online and to use free apps, without shelling out $60 every year for those 'luxuries'. That would be a strong start.

However, apparently the general consumer enjoys being bent over in this regard, so I don't think they need this to be won over at all.
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Dms2012  +   998d ago
You ever think of maybe sitting a few out? kinda bored with your sillyness.
jjb1981  +   998d ago
Hence... One Bubble.
4Sh0w  +   998d ago
Ignore the fanboys, they are like robots who have been pre-programmed to convert everyone to think as they do, they are elitist who think they know whats best for everybody, resistance is futile, join them or be brainwashed, some point you just have to stop taking them seriously, when you see certain names you just got to laugh at them and move on because you already know what they are going to say, unfortunately this means their can be no real discussion had, their programming will only accept your assimilation.

No doubt criticism is good until it becomes a one sided obsession, fortunately I think most human gamers like myself can't wait to see what Microsoft reveals. I have a hunch both ps4 and the next-box are going to have a lot to offer for us regular old gamers, competition is good, except for fanboys.
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SDF Repellent  +   998d ago
Please, stop with using the same old recycled materials ever time a similar MS gets posted. The xbox is not a system for you, we get it, now go play your PS3 exclusives and enjoy your free internet gaming while other 40 million plus xbox live gamers can enjoy theirs. Are you related to Strongman or ThatKansasGuy, by any chance? You sounds just like them.
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ThatCanadianGuy514  +   998d ago
"Please, stop with using the same old recycled materials"

Hard to stop, when microsoft has been doing it for this entire gen.But instead of discussing the issue of how MS rips of it's consumers, in numerous ways, all you do is ignore it and say "please, stop" to anyone who tries to makes a stand.
DigitalRaptor  +   997d ago
...Aaaand here's where it gets very interesting. We've called the Xbox fanboys out as being the ones who brush relevant issues under the rug for years, but you didn't have to go ahead and prove it now did you?

It's sad it really is. You say the Xbox is not the system for me, but I beg to differ. Regardless of my negative stance, I've said a thousand times on here that I'd support Microsoft and would happily own an Xbox if MS threw their draconian, anti-consumer practices out of the window, and focused more on original IPs with variety. I'd sooner see the former of these than the latter to be honest, but it's no word of a lie that I've enjoyed playing games with friends who own Xbox 360s. I like its games. I have not a problem with the experience Live provides. It's a GREAT service, like I've always said. I just think that Microsoft has the wool pulled over everyone's eyes, and to disagree with that would just be dishonest. And I won't be a part of the crowd that justifies anti-consumer practices, whether they are aware of it, or most probably aren't.

I enjoy my "free internet gaming" and so does every single gamer that isn't tied to the Xbox ecosystem. And by the way, "free internet gaming" isn't exclusive to the PlayStation platforms. It's every single other device and platform out there. MS has you under their thumb in that regard and you just can't see it. Actually, it's more like you just really don't want to see it.

And that goes for me as a gamer. You guys imagine that all I do is game PS3 exclusives, which is funny and yet sad. I play PC, Nintendo, Sony, mobile etc. The only console manufacturer I DON'T support is Microsoft and for good reason. Some of you just can't handle that fact though so what so you do???

You brush it off and use "fanboy" as the word that you will hope makes these REAL issues go away, Typical.


All of this also goes for you Dms2012, typical Xbox fanboy - can't rebut facts so denies them as facts, but fanboy nonsense.
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JokesOnYou  +   997d ago
...Aaaand here's where it gets very interesting.

You've taken a stand against charging for online multiplayer point taken, but your need to spam every 360 thread about it changes nothing, actually the only thing you're really saying is that if anyone is willing to pay for something that THEY FIND VALUE IN AND YOU DONT THEY MUST BE STUPID because YOU SAY SO, you don't think its worth it so that's all that matters, you're right and the millions who choose to pay for Live vs opting out for the other "free" online services are all fools unaware of whats best for them. Do you honestly think its because microsoft has the "wool pulled over our eyes"?, Oh I see so we're all just living under rocks and don't know psn is free, lol really?...I think it actually says a lot about xbox live that so many willing pay when they know theres a free alternative, I mean I'm just guessing here but I think that has a lot to do with their experience with both, I mean even IF you don't own a ps3 I don't think even you can say with a straight face that there is any gamer you know who has never at least tried both through different friends/associates. hmmm, I bet this "stand" you're making doesn't include ever writing to Microsoft, organizing petitions, giving feedback on forums, you know where it might actually be helpful for change....nah just ranting on n4g, how convenient for your agenda.

So lets be serious and just cut to the chase, its laughable that you even try to portray your constant bashing of 360 on this issue and just about everything else as some sort of moral stand against anti-consumerism, NO you just complain because you hate the brand and you need an excuse to constantly tell everybody how much you hate it because if you were so pro-consumer you would also have a long post history full of criticism toward sony for their past arrogance with initial high price point -I bet you never complained once back then huh?, removing features like BC/USB ports, misleading consumer info, online passes, less reliable online with constant updates, overcharging for ps vita memory cards which are mandatory for gameplay, and so on yet you have never taken a stand by constantly spamming every ps3 thread about how these specific tactics by sony are anti-consumer and its just your duty to see them fixed. I know, I know none of that is true 'cause sony is perfect, right? lol, who are you kidding, you sound like a politician with his usual pre-fabricated talking points. Try harder.
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-Superman-  +   998d ago
Powerful Kinect 2.0?

We need:

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The_Troll_Whisperer  +   997d ago
Microsoft doesn't make a profit from Xbox 360 sales, so they need to charge for Xbox Live in order to keep away from bankruptcy :/
hakesterman  +   998d ago
The Five things it needs to be successful:

1. No Kinnect
2. No " Internet on "
3. Plays Used Games
4. Sells for under $ 400.00 U.S.
5. Hit's the Market before Christmas 2013
4Sh0w  +   998d ago
The Five things it needs to be successful:

1. No Kinnect -No just better Kinect games + core games.
2. No " Internet on " -Do you mean "always on" internet connection, well I doubt it will be required for single player gameplay.
3. Plays Used Games -Agreed, I hope they wont prevent used games.
4. Sells for under $ 400.00 U.S. -Agreed
5. Hit's the Market before Christmas 2013 -Agreed
amiga-man  +   998d ago
Free online is a must or I will never consider an xbox i'll leave paying twice for your internet to the mugs of this world, as for always online last weeks BBC's Click program said that they had asked M$ to confirm one way or another and they had reported back that always online is not part of their new console .
jjb1981  +   998d ago
It needs to be user-friendly. It should help me understand why I have to pay $60 to play multiplayer games.
Corpser  +   998d ago
Sony never said ps4 has free online multiplayer
DivineAssault  +   998d ago
i bet your just hoping it does charge for multiplayer but it wont.. Just like vita & ps3 doesnt.. Sony will charge for the gaikai & ps plus but not to play or cross game chat.. Nx box will charge to play online but it better be worth it with it with the new xbl services or lots of ppl will say "eff it"
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B-radical  +   998d ago
The kinnect is great for younger kids and what not just not older people so i dont see why all the hate for kinnect
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denawayne  +   998d ago
I agree completely. While Microsoft does need to to shift it's focus back to more "hardcore" titles, it doesn't mean they need to abandon Kinect. My young kids love playing Kinect and I love watching them play. I just hope it's not more of the same on the next system.
samekratos  +   998d ago
less noob's
BLKxSEPTEMBER  +   998d ago
It's amazing (actually not really) that the first comment in a MS thread is by a Sony fanboy. Change the record already. People who have a 360 don't care that xbl cost $$$. The real question is why do Sony fanboys care? This site is over run buy Sony fanboys and its getting old fast. Yesterday every headline was about GT6! If someone new came to this site during that time u would think it was a Sony owned site...sad
amiga-man  +   998d ago
People who have a 360 don't care that xbl cost $$$. The real question is why do Sony fanboys care?

I will tell you why everyone should care, M$ do not own the internet yet they are restricting your access, forcing you to pay again to get it back, it is the thin end of the wedge xbox owners have allowed M$ to get their foot into the internet subscription door and they will only be trying to force it wider, I wish every xbox owner would just say no to paying twice for their internet and force the door closed again for the good of all of us, unfortunately there are too many people like you that have no idea of the ramifications of allowing corporations to control the internet.
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BLKxSEPTEMBER  +   997d ago
You still didn't answer my question. Why do people like you care how Xbox owners spend their money? I'm fully aware of what I'm paying for and as a multiconsole owner it doesn't bother me on bit. I pay for plus just so I can have access to a free copy of virtua fighter 5. Some might consider that a waste but as long as I see value in it why should anyone care?. All that garbage you just wasted your time writing still avoids the real question so ill ask you again. Why is it that Sony fanboys come into EVERY xbox thread posting hate? Like I said xbo owners do give a second thought to paying for live. By the way do you even own a Xbox? Prollt not
amiga-man  +   997d ago
Your question was answered perfectly some people it seems are blind to whats staring them in the face, paying for vitua fighter,cross game chat etc is very different to paying again for your internet.

In answer to your question no I will never consider an xbox while you are forced to pay for online, thats what I pay my internet provider for and i'm not stupid enough to pay twice.
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ProudGamer  +   998d ago
The Xbox 360 wowed me in the beginning with games like Kameo, Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, Bioshock, and Gears of War to name a few. The Xbox 360 was definitely the best console back then but things begin to change. We all saw what happened so no need to elaborate but the Xbox 360 today is not the same console I fell in love with back then. By 2010 I saw the direction MS was going with the Xbox and I did not like it. I will be watching the MS show on the 21st and MS will have to firstly refute the always online and no used games rumors and then show me that they will swing focus back to core gaming and then they can win me back. The PS4 is a definite buy for me, though.
objdadon  +   998d ago
Actually I do care about spending my $$$ to play online! They got me this gen, not the next!
BLKxSEPTEMBER  +   997d ago
Then stop paying for it! See how simple that is.
TheSaint  +   998d ago
Only two things I'd like to see, free online (inc Youtube, web browser etc) and the ability to play used games, otherwise I'm confident in MS's ability.
MasterCornholio  +   998d ago
Guess what guys we will spend over a billion dollars producing new games.

-crowd cheers-

Games that will provide new experiences using Kinect

-Crowd goes silent-

What Microsoft needs to do is not focus on Kinect so much. Its fine that their console can be a great multimedia device but they should focus on core games instead of Kinect titles.
Jek_Porkins  +   997d ago
Quality, and options are what I want. The more options I have, the more use the console will get. So close to the game changing event now! #XboxReveal

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