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dbjj12088  +   1039d ago
Bioschock Infinite really brought this to the forefront in my mind because of the way the images clash with the extreme violence. One minute you're popping someone's head off with this spinning mechanical thing, the next you're having to wrestle with the themes of baptism etc.
alexcosborn  +   1039d ago
So true.

The idea for an article like this had been bouncing around in my head for quite some time, and "playing" BioShock Infinite really compelled me to go forward with writing it.
joab777  +   1039d ago
Great article. I too am a Christian at the core. I am not aligned with any denomination and I do feel that Christianity's biggest enemy today are those that claim to be Christian while twisting scripture to their own ends. While Bioshock Infinite took jabs at religion, I believe its fair because its jabs were not at true Christianity but organized religion. And we cannot defend the evils that ppl have committed in the past and today in the name Christ.

Also, while I realize that I am a screwed up person in a fallen world in need of a savior, I am also to try and conform to His image. Its impossible but its my goal. Now, this doesn't mean to hide in the hills and stay away from everything either. There are many games and movies I just do not play. But, the world is more evil and screwed up than most works of fiction. Most of the time I do not feel like a game is altering my faith. I see things through a Christian prism so most games and entertainment ultimately strengthen my faith. That being said, it is a fine line.

I don't think games alone can cause violence etc. But I am a little older and didn't grow up playing MW so I am not sure of the entire impact. But before we begin to argue about games and their impact, we must talk about so many other problems in society that are at the root. I find it funny when Christians complain about gay marriage yet over half of Christians get divorved. We mustnt complain about the splinter in our neighbors eye while we have a beam in our own. That's not to say that we cannot be on the lookout for evils in entertainment etc. But its best if we are doin some work on ourselves first.

Again, great article. Its good to know others struggle with the same problem as me. Send me a message if u want.
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Blacklash93  +   1039d ago
I think that's kind of the point, though. Columbia first appears to be a paradise, but then reveals itself to be quite the opposite. The first instance of violence in the game does a great job making reality come crashing down on the seemingly idyllic setting.

Booker's journey through Columbia first seems to be a simple rescue mission while manuevering through fanatical hordes, then you get the impression it's something far deeper and relevant to him.
Sovereign59  +   1039d ago
It's true hypocrisy to find fault with violence and or sexuality in video games or any other media and to not take issue with these things even slightly any of the many times that they appear in the Christian Bible.
As Richard Dawkins has written, "The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

And to quote the late great Christopher Hitchens, "Faith is the surrender of the mind; it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other mammals. It's our need to believe, and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. Of all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated."
MostJadedGamer  +   1039d ago
Excellent article. As I have grown spirtually as a Christian there are more, and more types of games that I will not play. I cann't ignore the conviction in my heart that there are games I just have to stay away from.
pythonxz  +   1039d ago
First of all, I do like that you seem to be very sensible about games. Pointing out that the badly designed games are the ones that tend of focus on gratuitous violence and not intelligent stories and game-play.

There were religious people working at Irrational Games that resigned because of their faith. I'm sorry, but if you let your faith get in the way of your career, you don't deserve to be working in the industry. I know people will flame me because of this statement, but for those that would love to work at Irrational Games, they look like children. When someone challenges your faith, you stand strong, not act like a child and run away from the problem.

Let me add, I am by no means against religion, but I do think it runs peoples lives. That's my belief.
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pythonxz  +   1039d ago
In the end, I feel that YOU should decide what is morally wrong or right, and not let a belief system drive your existence.
vulcanproject  +   1039d ago
If your career >>> faith then you should probably rethink what faith actually means to you.

I am not religious at all, part of the reason for that is seeing lots of people that claim to have some sort of 'faith' dropping their beliefs or bypassing it or disregarding it when it becomes inconvenient for them.

It is laughable to me seeing people profess certain things when it is convenient, then excusing themselves at a point where holding their professed belief is somewhat difficult.

The world would be a lot better place if people were more honest with themselves and transparent.....
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IIC0mPLeXII  +   1039d ago
I give a shit why?
Donnieboi  +   1039d ago
Why? I dunno, u should tell us. I mean, u took the effort just to tell us how much u don't care, when nobody even asked u if u care. Then, by some ironic twist in your logic, u assume that WE care about the fact that you don't [care] by having taken the time to post your comment in the first place.

Obviously u do care. Do I sense bitterness in your tone about this topic? ;(
brave27heart  +   1039d ago
Do you think any of us care that you dont care?

No one forced you to read the atricle, which is well written, open and transparent about his views. You shouldnt knock a solid article just because its not about something you have an interest in.
Heisenburger  +   1039d ago
Like he actually read the article before posting....
Baka-akaB  +   1039d ago
I dont get that need personally . I consider myself a good enough christian , and do see any rift between entertainment such as games - wich arent different in the violence offered , from movies - and faith .

More power to a christian that feel that way , if he also doesnt watch news feed , violent movies , erotica , movies wiht any kind of smut , any ill picturing of religion or parodies of them , or like minded books . Otherwise , feels hypocritical and a conveniently arbitrary choice .

If games arent good and mixeable with our faith , then neither does the rest .

"Am I stuck exclusively playing family-friendly games like Mario and Zelda until the day that I die"

I get that even less . Blood and gore aside those games are still violent and involved mostly killing . Hence my feeling about hypocrisy . Most of what separate a kratos from link is the amount of virtual ketchup on screen . Of course i'm exagerating with this example .. but still
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BoneMagnus  +   1039d ago
My faith does not impact the games I choose to play. I'm probably more of the nice guy in games that offer moral choices, but where my faith has the greatest impact is not being a jerk online and making sure my wife and kids come first - so time with them takes priority - and all my M games are locked up away from the kids.
Baka-akaB  +   1039d ago
If anything , Bioshock infinite is a good occasion to portrait the wrong aspect of a religious cult , act as catharsis and prevent us from repeating the worst kind of zealotism and bad patterns of the games (and human history) to better ourselves as christians (and all other religions) .

When i see the christian church badly represented in a game , i Dont feel in terms of "how dare they , those phillistine swines !" , but in terms of "this is definitively how we should never be again , or should never ever turn into"
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alexcosborn  +   1039d ago
Fantastic point. I wholeheartedly agree.
xabmol   1039d ago | Bad language | show | Replies(1)
GREW50ME  +   1039d ago
"Beware the Cult of Purity. Infectious imbecility. I've made my choice. 666"
knifefight  +   1039d ago
Do yourself a favor and avoid Xenogears O_O
SatanSki  +   1039d ago
What separation? Both are evil :-)
jundago653   1039d ago | Spam
xabmol  +   1039d ago
Bad language? Really?
Is "friking" abetter adjective or do I need to tone it down to "very" so I don't offend the ten year olds here?

And, SoldtoChrist, I'm not angry. Just trying to say, oh what is it, those in glass houses and such, yada, yada...

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