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SlavisH2  +   1040d ago | Well said
We know nothing about the next xbox, not even its name. We could wait for some specs or a annoncement but your way is more logical :P

P.S. I don't care about rumors they are rumors!
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iGAM3R-VIII  +   1040d ago
I do have to agree, when E3 comes and both systems launch and we get a clear answer we will see, but based on all of the things Cerney said about its infastructure and it is easy to develop and PC like, the games could be easier.

When E3 is here all shall be told....
miyamoto  +   1039d ago
The article really did not nail why PS4 multi-plats will look better on PS4 than next Xbox.
and there was no point of comparison.

IMHO opinion if PS4 is easy and faster to make games on it will be the saved development time and developers talent that will be huge factors on how PS4 games will looks better than the competition.
Muffins1223  +   1040d ago
Yes we do,the leaked specs.We know they are true due to the fact Microsoft got the fbi to raid his house for it.Not only that, all indie developers are going towards the ps4 and not the next xbox because its easier to develop for and if its easier to develop for then games will generally look better on better hardware and easier to develop for hardware.And guess has both of those advantages.
iGAM3R-VIII  +   1040d ago
Yes totally agree, I have a feeling about the PS4 this year :)
Knight_Crawler   1040d ago | Trolling | show
Oh_Yeah  +   1040d ago
Except your forgetting Xbox uses direct x while PS4 uses a variant of OpenGL... Most devs prefer direct x...hence why xbox was the lead platform for most multiplat games.. I see it going the same way next gen. ALTHOUGH since PS4 has a x86 architecture it is easier to port to.. So I expect even if xbox is leading platform again that it now truly depends on who has the best hardware to determine which version of a game will look/perform better.
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raytraceme  +   1040d ago
Well valve and a lot of other devs are taking initiative to move into linux gaming (steam big picture) thus requiring the switch to OpenGL. The ps4 has that advantage thus it will be even game in terms of lead platforms.
Oh_Yeah  +   1040d ago
@raytraceme yeah hopefully devs do start using OpenGL more..I don't think I'm buying the next xbox from what I've been I'd like if PS4 is lead platform more next gen. And funny how if you say anything positive about xbox on this site you get disagrees out the ass lol. I bash on the xbox too.. Go through my comments but I also am not a fan boy, I know xbox shined over ps3 when it came to multiplat games..that was it though and it'd kinda suck if that happened again...because Microsoft isn't exactly about the gamers.
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dcbronco  +   1040d ago
Both consoles are rumored to use the same GPU and CPU but one will be easier to program for. If that is the case it will most likely be the Xbox. Because of DX11 and MS is better at tools than Sony. No one can honestly argue tools.

And fanboys believe every bad Xbox rumor but none that would make it better. Leak after leak shows dual GPUs on the next Xbox. SuperDAE said the Xbox was better. Why don't these people believe him on that. The only leaks we know that are accurate are the ones we know came from within MS. Their lawyers tried to stop that leak. And that shows dual GPU and 3 CPUs that make the XBox a more powerful machine.

If we're going to believe rumors.
ichimaru  +   1040d ago
I wouldn't bet the kitchen sink on leaked specs from a year old model, its not profitable. both ps3 and the 360 underwent various models and hardware changes before product.a complete yr is a long time for better judgement and Innovation
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dcbronco  +   1040d ago
I think people that believe these consoles are going to be extremely expensive to make are thinking retail prices. The leaks show one of the chips or both being ARM chips. In that case you're talking about really cheap chips. The SoC in the iPad 2 cost Apple $15 each. AMD chips will be more. But not nearly as much as what it cost for a separate CPU and GPU at 90nm. These are APUs at 28nm.

The huge cost savings on thew 360 and PS3 after launch come mainly from going from 90nm to 45 nm. The 360 going to an APU lower that price even more.

But I agree on the various models. There have been a lot of different leaks about the 720 specs. That's why no one really knows what it will contain.
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cyhm3112  +   1039d ago
Those who says we have to wait until they reveal the xbox to know the specs are just like those people who doesn't admit their wives cheating on them unless they tell them so even they saw two of them hugging each other in a dark place. obvious is obvious, some people just don't have any clue. You don't need to draw intestines of a cartoon character, do you?
CraigandDayDay  +   1039d ago
" The PS4 sees Sony move to a 64-bit x86 chip architecture, which will be music to the ears of developers, especially those used to working on PC games. The good news doesn’t stop there, though. Developers will be able to take advantage of Microsoft’s latest industry standard DirectX API — DirectX 11.1, but Sony has taken the time to improve upon it, pushing the feature set beyond what is available for PC games development. "

Sony will use DirectX as well in the PS4.
dcbronco  +   1039d ago

While Sony has had one leak on the PS4 as far as architecture(a couple of potential GPUs), the 720 has had a lot of them. Since their have been so many we don't know about the 720. It could be any combination of the things we've heard and some things we haven't.

Read the forums on NeoGaf and Beyond 3D and they are talking about a lot of things I've never read a thing about on N4G. They don't believe the 720 will have DDR3. Because of some of previous leaks make it not fit with the architecture. Many there believe it will be DDR4. Which has a larger bandwidth.

So we really don't know what the 720 will have. We really don't know the PS4 either since Sony stated the specs aren't set.
JP1369  +   1039d ago

I'm on GAF quite a bit and the only people I see speculating about the 720's RAM are desperate fanboys that don't want to believe that their console of choice might be underpowered relative to the PS4. The only thing we know so far is that VGLeaks proved themselves reputable with respect to the Vita and now PS4. The documentation they have on the successor to the 360 - which is something in the range of 90 pages - points to said machine using the came CPU and a weaker GPU than PS4, tied together with DDR3 RAM. If true, the system is going to be weaker than its direct competition, regardless of move engines or secret sauce.

Edit: There was far more than just one leak in regard to PS4. Either you have a terrible memory or you're engaged in some mental gymnastics. There were rumors of dual APU, APU+GPU and finally the current set up, just with different CPUs and GPUs being swapped in and out.
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dcbronco  +   1038d ago

Let's VGleaks has been accurate. About which Durango rumors since there have been many? I mean specs wise. Is it about two APUs and a BC chip? Is it when SuperDAE said the Durango was better? SuperDAE seems to be the main source. Funny Sony fans ignore that he said that Durango was better. Well, not really.

We know what Sony has said on the PS4. Though they said that the specs aren't set. There have been rumors that the 720 GPU will be far more efficient than normal GPUs making the consoles about the same. I refuse to trust the opinion of anyone(not saying you) that only believes rumors from one side. Only a fool does that.
DigitalRaptor  +   1040d ago
Digital Foundry will be on the case.

Not just that, but the developers will tell us, just like they told us how problematic PS3 was to develop for.

Since we've already heard how vocal some of them have been about MS/Sony next gen situation, they will be sure to let us know.
JaredH  +   1040d ago
I agree. Even if there is a difference it will be like last gen where some games will run and look marginally better on one console over the other. People will most likely not even notice the differences. Those who frequent the websites that exploit fanboy ideals will though.
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Monstar  +   1039d ago
stop using the tougue pocking emoticon to try and get more likes.
indysurfn  +   1039d ago
First I will get this out of the way. This article IS biased! You can see it with statements like JUST more bells and whistle! But don't apply the same 'JUST' attitude to a AMD chip that is also x86 from laptops, and PC's. But that is the old me taking objection.

I want PS4 to win this Generation. Not just because Microsoft is testing our reaction to having access to my living room with a camera at all times. Not just because Microsoft is testing our reaction to blocking used games(using internet validation), because after all not too long ago so did Sony. But because Microsoft is testing it for the 3rd year in a row, and are desperate for it to be acceptable. I think they don't want to believe our previous reactions. And are emboldened by the few people that are blindly supporting them, like the PS2 fanboys did on paying a lot for the PS3. We need to stand up to them let us not be like the PS2 fanfools($600 console, $2000 on ebay), and get what we said we would put up with. Let us be the smart ones. I'm begging all this easy to develop for talk will be true this time! Yeah I know I'm saying rough things to both sides, and will get 100% disagrees. It is worth it!
xXxSeTTriPxXx  +   1039d ago
Duh he read this from a fortune cookie, get with the times bro.baseless analysis is the new logic jezz.
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ilikecookies  +   1039d ago
This must be some high school kids English project. This is so horribly written and not even news it just tells us what we already know. Move along now nothing to see here.
nthstew  +   1039d ago
don't really care about next xbox any more with 3 or 4 exclusive and Kinect I don't give a shit.

P.S PlayStation 4 for me. If the hardware is more efficient than xbox definitely it will have better visuals #deal with it.. :0
Psn800  +   1039d ago
He isn't talking about next gen consoles ?
Hellsvacancy  +   1040d ago
I remember reading that developers had to sign an agreement with MS that no PS3 multiplatform game can look any better than the 360 version, was that true?

I swear I read that somewhere

If its true, I hope it dont happen again
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Byeka  +   1040d ago
nope. Due to the complicated architecture PS3 had development on PS3 required a lot of time and resource which no one was ready to invest as that didn't really effect the sales and profits much So most of the ports turn out to be pretty bad.
aawells07  +   1040d ago
Has Microsoft already revealed the 720 to you? How did you get this inside information? If you dont have some secret info that noone else has than you're gonna look really stupid.
Minato-Namikaze  +   1040d ago
MS did have a anti competition policy. It's the reason why ps exclusives don't come to the 360 later. MS protected their inferior system, if not then maybe more MP titles would be near the 1st party titles of sony.
DOMination-  +   1039d ago
Sony have the exact same policy regarding ex. Timed exclusives.
Nitrowolf2  +   1040d ago
The agreement was that Developers had to agree to publish their games at the same time if it was a PSN/XBLA otherwise MS can pretty much deny it.

For on disc games they had to have the same content, or they can deny that to, which honestly they really havn't from what we've seen.

You are correct though as even some publishers have felt that.

"Not all agree, however. One representative from a publisher who wished to remain anonymous told Eurogamer Microsoft's policy blocks developers from taking advantage of other platforms' strengths.

"Microsoft is suggesting that anything but parity will result in them not carrying a title. They may think this is competitive, but it's not. They are killing any creative exposure of titles to make up for their own platform's shortcomings."
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M2-  +   1040d ago
You do realize that, that is MS's XBLA policy? Basically it means MS can refuse to "publish" XBLA games if the game is not equal to other platforms (content) or is released on other platforms first. It doesn't mean MS will block the game from XBLA it means they will not publish it.
Nitrowolf2  +   1040d ago
That's what I just said -_-

The part about blocking isn't about MS blobking the game, it's blocking developers from taking advantage of other hardware out there.

A policy is pretty much an agreement, they are guildlines that must be meet.
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M2-  +   1040d ago

That policy is regarding downloadable games. The quote you posted is referring to the XBLA platform, it's not referring to hardware.
Oh_Yeah  +   1040d ago
Kind of, it was a contract saying that if there were any missing features or they decided to release a game at a later date on the xbox 360 that Microsoft has a right and may refuse the game entirely.
MattyG  +   1040d ago
Said the time traveler.
BrianC6234  +   1040d ago
I hope this is true but we all know the PS3 is more powerful than the 360 so why don't they make their PS3 games look like Sony's PS3 games look? Do they want to help Microsoft? There's no reason to not push the PS3 harder than they do now.
pete007  +   1039d ago
PS3 more powerfull? Just Like a top Ferrari With no tyres. The gpu was crap, 360 gpu was Way better. Cell was stronger but a cpu still a cpu.
Now go search better excuses, a PS3 game costs 3 Times To develop than a 360 one
BrianC6234  +   1039d ago
Yes, the PS3 is a lot more powerful. The GPU doesn't even matter. The Cell processor can handle a lot of what the GPU would do. For proof the PS3 is more powerful you just have to look at Sony's first party games. They're always better than everything else.
Gamer-40  +   1040d ago
Yes, i think this true, Ps4 better and powerful hardware than new Xbox.

I dont understand why make this Microsoft:S
Jaqen_Hghar  +   1040d ago
Games looked pretty similar this gen (a man platinumed Skyrim and put 200 hours in and never had a problem). A man believes they will be identical next gen but a man likes free online and the Sony controller setup so he still has no reason to get Xbox.
MoonWheel  +   1040d ago
Another man agrees with you
monkey nuts  +   1039d ago
Jaqen Hghar, a man must name a next gen console to appease the red god. A man is duty bound..........
Jaqen_Hghar  +   1039d ago
A man will offer the red god the new Xbox since it has a history of liking red anyway...and dying
hard joe  +   1040d ago
thanks to supercharged pc architecture
CapsLocke  +   1040d ago
Nonsense. No matter what PC will always have better performance and experience with multi-platform games.
pandaboy  +   1040d ago
not my PC
Jaqen_Hghar  +   1039d ago
a man hopes you get another bubble for this. Funny indeed.
givemeshelter  +   1040d ago
Interesting article... Considering NO ONE knows the actual specifications of the Next Xbox...
kneon  +   1040d ago
Well we don't know for sure, but given how the PS4 leak was pretty well spot on I expect the xbox leaks are also pretty close, at least for the hardware. The software aspects such as always-on, mandatory install etc. could yet change since it's just software.
ichimaru  +   1040d ago
sooooo tired of hearing this -_-
yes, we understand edge's source was spot on you were there I was there, n4g covered it to oblivion. this does not mean we have to take whatever they say as gospel now
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stage88  +   1040d ago
Just another reason to own a PS4.
mochachino  +   1040d ago
I'd say 90% of multiplats looked better on 360 until about a year ago (most looked 90% similar though) and now more multiplats look better on PS3 (still 90% similar though).

If the rumours are true, it seems like 100% of multiplats will look better on PS4, how much better is the question.
imchuckbass  +   1040d ago
When comparing to Xbox, Sony fanboys make a big deal about graphics, even if the difference is tiny

When comparing to PC, and the PC version looks WAY better (better textures, way higher resolution) suddenly they don't care about graphics anymore
ichimaru  +   1040d ago
the n4g bible
flaunt something until it is bested, then disregard its importance
DwightOwen  +   1040d ago
You get ANOTHER bubble!
Hicken  +   1039d ago
Who the hell is comparing PC to consoles?

Oh, only the people who want to make sure that, one way or another, Sony games don't look the best.

Any console games besting PS3 exclusives? Nope. Not one 360 game, and not one multiplat.

Which leaves you and yours to fall back to PC, because the 360 damn well can't best the PS3.

Oh, and let's not mention how the Xbox fanboy argument was "PS3 has no games," until that was disregarded; then "none of the exclusives sell," until that was summarily bested; followed by "multiplats look better on Xbox," until they were on par or better on PS3; and finally "360 has sold more," which is no longer true.

Looks like you're right, though it seems to be more of an Xbox fanboy's bible than anything else.
ichimaru  +   1037d ago
I was speaking on N4G's habbits. ps3 and 360 fanboys apply
FlyingFoxy  +   1039d ago
Do you mean way higher resolution than 1080p?, if so i don't care because speed is more important.

I have a 15.6" screen n my laptop which is 1080p and for my desktop a 27" 120hz 1080p screen, comparing both together i can barely tell a difference in games except on the laptop screen text is a bit sharper. it's not as huge a difference that people make out.

Give me high quality textures, 1080p and 60fps as often as possible any day.
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isarai  +   1040d ago
I love my PS3, and only see myself buying a PS4. I still find this statement stupid as fuck seeing as absolutely nothing is known about the next Xbox besides some small statements about its philosophy for the next xbox
wenaldy  +   1040d ago
I like chicken tandoori though..
imt558  +   1040d ago
Not every multiplatform game looks better on X360. For me, rate is about 70% : 30% in X360 favour.
Kennytaur  +   1039d ago
I'd say almost every multiplat since 2009/2010 has looked pretty much identical.
imsocool1234  +   1040d ago
I don't care what game looks better on what. I just want games!
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Max-Zorin  +   1040d ago
Stupid biased crystal balls...........
MultiConsoleGamer  +   1040d ago
Title stated as fact. Article should not have been approved.
BabyTownFrolics  +   1039d ago
It's pro Sony thus the rules may be broken
kingduqc  +   1040d ago
Nah it won't. It will look better on pc.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   1039d ago
Lnao this is ridiculous multiplatform games will look better and be superior on PC.
Another fanboy article trying to claim that the ps4 is better than a PC.
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GarandShooter  +   1039d ago
No, you're wrong. I wasn't going to click on the article, which you obviously haven't done, due to the stupidity of its nature, until I read your post. Then morbid curiosity kicked in and I had to know which was stupider. Congratulations sir, you have won.

The fanboy here is you, attempting to twist the content and intent of the article.

Again sir, I say bravo, well done!
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gazgriff2k12  +   1039d ago
I just hope dev's take advantage of each of the consoles strengths like they used to. And no more crappy ports or silly timed exclusives
listenkids  +   1039d ago
"Multiplatform games always looked better on XBOX 360 and even PS3 fans can’t deny the fact"

Incorrect "fact".

CEOSteveBallmer  +   1039d ago
Of course its no question the early multiplats have better performance on Xbox 360. But thats not the case anymore today or since 2010. Developers learned it the hard way though. Just check Lens of truth Bioshock infinite and Tomb raider comparisons X360 vs. PS3
The_Troll_Whisperer  +   1039d ago
I don't think this is accurate, since we don't even know what the Xbox Next has in store. It all depends on which platform will be developed for, and then ported to others.

(Not that ports aren't good, look at Tomb Raider on PS3)
feels  +   1039d ago
well of course. its just common sense. ps4 has super 8gb gddr5 extreme ram
pissed999  +   1039d ago
Another terrible baiting article from some casual who doesnt realize pc is and will always be big superior time sucker. Get over it.
CEOSteveBallmer  +   1039d ago
Hardcore Xbox and Microsoft supporters/Fans should stay away from this article I think. There's no benefit in bashing the news or downplaying it. Advice: just go to Xbox oriented news and ignore this headline. Same could be said to Sony/playstation supporters unless your looking for a fight.
chukamachine  +   1039d ago

Many multiplatform games run better while having better textures on PS3.

Games mentioned was early ports.

As of 720/PS4.

Nobody except devs know.
_QQ_  +   1039d ago
No one even knows the specs of the 720 yet, besides, they are going to look better on pc. who gets console for third party games...
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Jek_Porkins  +   1039d ago
There are no specs known on the next Xbox, hopefully they look pretty even though, would love for that flame to be taken out of the fanboy war. Astounding that people argue over an extra spec of dust on screen as it is.
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