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NYC_Gamer  +   933d ago
I disagree,Sony have listened and built PS4 based on demands from developers inside of the industry...Sony will even allow for self published indie software to be on PS4 and have developers decide on the price or F2p...PS4 will be one of the most developer friendly/open consoles on the market.
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PoSTedUP  +   933d ago
you're right yes they have. i'm not knocking you but that's not what the article touches upon. but it is a good positive thing they are making it more suitable for developers this time around.
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MysticStrummer  +   933d ago
Yeah I guess you wouldn't want the article to mention things that disprove your premise. smh
Donnieboi  +   933d ago
This article is baseless.

Such strong delusional nonsense.
Hicken  +   933d ago
How can you say "it doesn't seem like they've learned their lesson yet" when it seems EXACTLY like they've learned their lesson?

More developer friendly, meaning third parties will get better results. They even went as far as to ask developers what they wanted first, so that problem isn't there.

Less exotic parts. This means the cost to produce the thing will be down. Which means the launch price should also be down significantly.

No promises of excessive features. Everything they've shown so far seems feasible, though it may not ALL be available day 1. And there's a large variety of things coming which look quite good.

Loads of software at launch. There's really little else that needs to be said about that: there will be plenty of games- GOOD games- to play when the PS4 releases.

Looking at the article- which I told myself I wasn't gonna do, at first- you seem to be basing your stance on the fact that Sony's intent to bring out quality hardware and software.

... that doesn't make sense. It doesn't take arrogance to do that. That's more something you do when you CARE, not when you're full of yourself. When you're vested in your craft, you take losses like they did on the PS3... which they don't seem to be about to do with the PS4, by the way.

In any case, the entire article is off-base.
MikeMyers  +   933d ago
It will only be the death of them if they keep coming out with products that are expensive to make but people are not willing to pay for them. The PS3 started out that way, even at $599 they were losing money. Vita was promoted as a high end handheld gaming device and sales haven't really shown a huge demand for that. Other divisions have also felt it. Samsung have come in and took over the TV market that Sony used to dominate. Again consumers are not willing to pay a premium at times.

Now fast forward to the PS4 and while the products sounds very good they could be facing shortfalls again with profit returns. That is unless they can price it accordingly and consumers buy it. Right now it looks like a high end gaming console so what will the price be and will Sony once again be selling it at a loss? Apparently the Wii U is sold at a loss and it's not selling very well. Hardware sales for the PS3 and Xbox 360 I think are down year over year.

We can all be very positive and all love what we think the PS4 will be but in the end consumers will dictate its fate. The market is changing all the time and peoples interest and free time are being placed in various areas. In a world where there is so much media it can be hard to come out with a device that consumers will crave. It's also a much more competitive market than when Sony first came into the scene. The landscape has drastically changed.

Sony has been humbled by the PS3 experience. They seem to be listening more to what game developers want but again nothing is going to guarantee its success. I think the industry itself is in need of change. We seen far too many ip's run its course and gameplay being all too familiar (not singling out Sony but all game development as a whole).
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BeAGamer  +   933d ago
this article should be directed towards Microsoft
AngelicIceDiamond  +   933d ago
How does MS have an Ego?

Instead of disagreeing can I have Explanation please?
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majiebeast  +   933d ago

If anything Sony has become more humble not making developers jump through hoops for them and embracing indie developers.

Also they have completely let go of the Japan knows best mentality, with Mark Cerny being the lead designer behind the PS4. The man is a legend in the industry he made marble madness when he was 17-18 and then went on to cocreate Crash,Sonic and Spyro among others. If you pull up his Wiki page you get a list of games that most developers would be jealous of.
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Root  +   933d ago
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (1992, Genesis) — Producer

Crash Bandicoot (1996, PlayStation) — Executive Producer

Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back (1997, PlayStation) — Producer, Designer

Spyro the Dragon (1998, PlayStation) — Executive Producer, Designer

Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped (1998, PlayStation) — Executive Producer, Designer

Spyro the Dragon 2: Ripto's Rage! (1999, PlayStation) — Executive Producer

Crash Bash (2000, PlayStation) — Producer, Designer

Spyro: Year of the Dragon (2000, PlayStation) — Design Consultant

Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy (2001, PS2) — Programmer

Ratchet and Clank (2002, PS2) - Designer

Jak II (2003, PS2) — Programmer, Designer

Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando (2003, PS2) — Designer

Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal (2004, PS2) — Design Consultant

Resistance: Fall of Man (2006, PS3) — Design Consultant

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (2007, PS3) — Design Consultant

Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (2007, PS3) — Design Consultant

Resistance 2 (2008, PS3) — Designer

God of War III (2010, PS3) — Design Consultant

Killzone 3 (2011, PS3) — Design Consultant

Wow he's worked on all the top PS games in some way...even Sonic with Sega
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DOMination-  +   933d ago
Losing that Japan knows vest thing is very important. PS3 had some strange design decisions and most of them revolved around the Japanese thinking online connectivity was a gimmick and wouldn't take off.

Cerny is a legend. Has ny utmost respect. I like everything I've seen of the ps4 OS. And Sony are much more humble and better for it too than 7 years ago.
Root  +   933d ago
They are not arrogant at all now, they learnt there lesson with the PS3 launch when they underestimated Microsoft.

If anything Microsoft and even Nintendo are more ego filled then Sony

"And it doesn’t seem like they have learned their lesson yet"

Oh yeah...listening to developers and even gamers complaints is them not learning their lesson /s
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bicfitness  +   933d ago
Three paragraphs of myopic, self-indulgent whining is what qualifies as an "article" these days? My God, standards have never been so low. I don't care which of the Big Three its about, but this sort of low-grade crap shouldn't even get voted out of pending.

The average N4G troll posts better, more substantial rants than this. 3/10.
doogiebear  +   933d ago
I voted the site down. Let us all do that. This article is just a rant. And a poorly written one, at that.
moegooner88  +   933d ago
" Sony needs to think smarter in terms of making money and less about having the best quality ".

Why not both ?, and we currently have no idea about the PS4 price point, whether it will be profitable on launch or not; article is based on assumptions and speculations, rather than facts.
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Silly gameAr  +   933d ago
The fact that they actually wrote that just blow my mind. My head is literally a mushroom cloud right now.
Minato-Namikaze  +   933d ago
He's literally asking sony to not make quality devices. Just wow........
Derekvinyard13  +   933d ago
BitbyDeath  +   933d ago
What have they done that's so egotastic?
Since presenting the PS4 it's mainly all the media who's been hyping it.
ZodTheRipper  +   933d ago
Funny how every criticism these days starts with "You know I'm a huge xyz-fanboy, but ..."
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Why o why  +   933d ago
The comments within this article have inadvertently brought Mark Cerny's existance to my attention. I knew nothing of him prior to coming here but I'm glad I do now. Thanks for the knowledge and plus 1.
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Ps_alm3k  +   933d ago
Honestly, it is Sony's motto to deliver the best in gaming possible. if people don't support or see that as a reason to support them let it be a gamers ignorance. Quality is something they are proud of and not a pride issue. I will support them because im aware of the things they do for the hardcore gamers.
ACESupERIC  +   933d ago
I'm still trying to wrap my head around not making a quality console. As someone who's been rrod 4 times vs one ps3 (first edition b/c still rockin) I say give me quality. Ms went the cheap route with 360 and look what happened. 33% failure rate. Some reviews put it closer to 50. The standard amongst the electronics market is 2-5 % So if sonys ego is what makes them choose for quality, I prefer them to be as egotistical as they possibly can. Who wants to pay good money for a console built with mediocre parts?
yokokoroma  +   933d ago
The author of this article believes SONY should care less about quality in regards to PS consoles. If SONY just put together a few components here and there, and then put that out as a console, there wouldn't be a PS brand. The quality (i.e. what goes into making a console) of PS consoles is the most important thing, and SONY does well remembering that. In contrast, the reason PS3 didn't sell as well as it's predecessors is because it lacks the gaming diversity they had. This gen we saw Japanese PS3 games, (that would've been localized in the PS/PS2 era) remain isolated to the Japan region.
Hitman0769  +   933d ago
Agreed but not sure that's what they were trying to say >_>
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PopRocks359  +   933d ago
This is off-topic, but I should let you know that you still have me blocked. :P

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