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TheLyonKing  +   528d ago
Things since sony are showing first they have a 3 month window between that and most likely microsofts reveal for the lime light and attention all the while they can keep tweaking it is a clever tactic
TimmyShire  +   528d ago
Makes sense that Sony should try and announce first, but I wonder how long Microsoft is will to hold out. The longer it waits, the more excited for PS4 people will get.
miyamoto  +   528d ago
"Ten years ago, to think we would be the leader in our second generation is a achievement,"

Where has M$ been the leader? or leader in what?

"Driving creativity, whether around marketing, retail or new business models, is key for us."

Yeah creative in all of that except making games
Shadow Flare  +   528d ago | Funny
@miyamoto

They're the leader this generation of the "slowest selling console" awards, the "most unreliable console this generation" award, the "I can't believe we got them to pay for online multiplayer" award and in what's becoming an annual trend these days, the "worst E3 presentation" award

They're leading in a lot this gen
MikeMyers  +   528d ago
Microsoft needs to analyze the event on the 20th and see how they can top it. If they wait until E3 to show the next Xbox and it falls flat in comparison to the PS4 then they should be worried. Right now it's a mystery. Nintendo announce the Wii U a long time ago and look at what transpired ever since.

TimmyShire,
"The longer it waits, the more excited for PS4 people will get."

Not true unless Microsoft or Valve cannot top it. After the 20th there will still be no consumers unless they release the PS4 in a huge surprise. You will always have your loyalists out front saying it's the best thing ever and that chatter will die off eventually because the majority of people out there are not loyalists, they are potential consumers who may buy a Wii U or a next Xbox or a Steambox or a PS4.
WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   528d ago
That title is rather crap! They had me thinking MS made such a statement...
xxLuckyStrike  +   528d ago
You mean Sony's "core" are getting excited for PS4. Most casuals are unaware of A PS4 or that its coming out within the next year. It takes more than a fancy press conference to build hype aside of the Delusional bubble of N4G. Most casuals will have the reaction of "PS4? I just bought a PS3"

*A biased Sony or M$ fanboy on N4G does not reflect the casual gamer and what they are thinking.
NukaCola  +   527d ago
MS is really going to have to wow me because after being burned by a lack of games, having to replace a broken console, expensive ad-ridden LIVE plus the flood of shovelware and the poor design changes of the dashboard...I am not at all interested in the next Xbox.

I really hope E3 isn't just Kinect and illumiroom. I really think they will show a system with a very similar design to Windows 8, a ton of Kinect 2 titles and COD. It needs to change.
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ANIALATOR136  +   528d ago
something tells me they will reveal the PS4, show the games but not divulge in the specs
Genuine-User  +   528d ago
Yeah, I don't think Sony will give us hardware specs on the 20th. That would be stupid move.
zebramocha  +   528d ago
Why would they hold off on the spec of the ps4?if the 720 is coming this year there is no way Ms could change anything on its next console other that ram and ports,Sony gave the specs of the vita when it was unveiled.
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RuperttheBear  +   528d ago
I'm sure MS and Sony have ways of getting to know what tech is being used by either side. Sums of cash have a way of letting loose lips talk.
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Riderz1337  +   528d ago
Even if they reported the specs, it's impossible for Microsoft to create an entirely new console in 3 months time. These things don't happen overnight and takes years to create.
rainslacker  +   528d ago
There's no big reason for releasing the specs, or general specs, on the 20th. It would take time away from the conference to put out more important stuff that they want the press to know and report.

This show will be flashy, and meant to get the consumers attention. Most people tune out when it comes to specs, and even more don't know what the specs mean. Specs can easily be released in a press kit later on for those who care, because the average consumer just doesn't.
DeadlyFire  +   528d ago
Sony will likely reveal 3 things about the PS4. An arrival date, First party games that might make Launch window, and an estimate on how powerful it will be. Stating something like it will be so many times more powerful than PS3. Also maybe the price point they are aiming at.
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Old McGroin  +   528d ago
"Things since sony are showing first they have a 3 month window between that and most likely microsofts reveal for the lime light and attention all the while they can keep tweaking it is a clever tactic"

Kinda like Sony did for the PS3? You never know, maybe Sony will show off a weaker version of the PS4 to throw MS off and then unleash a beast a month before release?
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rainslacker  +   528d ago
They got a major hype train rolling right now. Why blow that by announcing an underpowered console? Doom articles will come no doubt, but they want their consumers to be excited. Trolling the community at large to "throw off MS" is not necessary, as the machines are what they are, and nothing announced is likely to change that.
user3915800  +   528d ago
What I like about the report its how concise it was, not presured in a relax state of mind, as if to say, bring it, we want you to. Devils aproach, do your worst its what I want to see, carefull, showing how many horses one might have might not indicate power, just simply let us know how weak you might be.
Minato-Namikaze  +   528d ago
...........*face palm*
ABizzel1  +   528d ago
@TheLyonKing

There's not much "tweaking" MS can do at this point of time, unless they want to wait and launch in 2014 which I highly doubt.

At this point of time both Sony and MS are too far into production to make any substantial changes to the hardware besides the amount of RAM, or overclocks to the CPU's and GPU's (overclock can be done via firmware).

If they try to do anything to dramatic then they run the risk of launching with only a few million, and not having enough supply for consumers which is nearly as bad as not launching around the same time.
Dailynch  +   528d ago
Come on Sony! Rock my world! I'm ready! I believe in you!!!!
asmith2306  +   528d ago
Even Master Chief is backing Sony!
Kennytaur  +   528d ago
It's not Master Chief, it's actually Spartan 1337. But I do get your joke.
TimmyShire  +   528d ago
Microsoft are probably a bit worried that Sony is going to be first out of the gate with an announcement. Sounds to me like they're holding out as long as possible, for whatever reason.
Gildarts  +   528d ago
Why would they be worried?
plaZeHD  +   528d ago
They will lose attention which leads to low system sales, duh.
xursz  +   528d ago
I'm no scientist but I'd guess because they're directly competing.
Old McGroin  +   528d ago
"They will lose attention which leads to low system sales, duh."

Yeah, because no one has ever heard of the Xbox. SMH. More than 70 million 360s have been sold, I'm guessing a pretty large portion of the install base will have a fair idea that the next Xbox will be releasing in the not too distant future, marketing or no marketing.
007Bond  +   528d ago
That doesn't mean crap look how PS ended up when they released last.
UnholyLight  +   528d ago
Honestly why would they be worried? All reports are showing that Microsoft has a really good hand that they are ready to tip soon. Microsoft is focused on many aspects of the NextBox. I just can't see them being worried. It's not like Microsoft has done really well in that they have only had the Xbox brand on the market for the last 12 years or so and yet has at least 30% or more of the market share in the games market.

They have nothing to worry about, their install base has really grown since the inception of the original Xbox. Business is great for them!

I can't wait to see what Sony and Microsoft have to offer me, Would love to buy both this go around. I dont wanna miss out on Killzone this time!!
xxLuckyStrike  +   528d ago
Word is Microsoft hasn't finalized 720's specs. There not worried. M$ has proved they can hold there own. But competition and hype is a good thing for all of us. It no doubt makes Sony and or M$ press harder to consider and reconsider their offerings.
BattleReach  +   528d ago
whoop whoop
stage88  +   528d ago
I'm not going to lie, it's nice to see greedy MS worried.
They won't be able to pull the same old money-grabbing tactics once the PS4 and new PSN hits.
Lvl_up_gamer  +   528d ago
But they're not worried....
T-What  +   528d ago
Pffffff,LOL... Yes they are
JoGam  +   528d ago
As much as like to see them worry, don't count them out. MS is a sneaky ass company with tricks up there sleeve. I remember when the announced AC and GTA not being exclusive to Sony which was MAJOR. On top of that they buy timed exclusive DLC for GTA. Believe me, I'm happy Sony is going first but don't count MS out just yet. MS has a lot of money to throw around.
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Dlacy13g  +   528d ago
Yup, you have to wonder if one of those sneaky moves is coming with the Destiny reveal from Bungie just days before the Sony meeting. Especially if the rumored timed exclusive is real.
PFFT  +   528d ago
Ohh the Timed exclusivity is real. Already been confirmed by Bungie themselves.
Software_Lover  +   528d ago
But they are not worried. These consoles can co-exist people. When are you going to get it through your heads.

Playstation is a known brand from "greedy" Sony. Xbox is a known brand from "greedy" Microsoft. Not going anywhere anytime soon. Greedy Sony would fire employees and restructure business before this happens. Same with greedy Microsoft.
KMCROC54  +   528d ago
Yeah cause everything in the far east is paid with love & kindness, plus Sony doesn't like but they charged thier consumer 600 dollars yeah they don't like money.
garos82  +   528d ago
Look mate your entitled to your opinion but please try to refrain saying nonsense.
they charged 600 dollars but stop and think what came out of that box.60gb hdd, ps2 and ps3 gaming machine with blue ray player, Wi-Fi, rechargeable wireless controllers.
Now compare getting an xbox360 at launch, with wifi adapter,60 gb hdd, that Toshiba hd player,xbox live subscription (you know the thing you need to be able to play online).How much does that cost?
subtenko  +   528d ago
Yep! Plus they dropped support for xbox and thats why a lot of people got the 360, then the high fail rate for the 360, etc.

Lets see what M$ does this time around x)
dubt72  +   528d ago
@stage Haha, greedy! 599 US dollars!!! Give me a break, sony boy.
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stage88  +   528d ago
When the PS3 was released Sony were making a loss on every console which gave the consumer a great deal for all the tech.

What's Microsoft's excuse for selling faulty hardware, that produced RROD for the majority of 360's, at such a ridiculous price? Also the 360 didn't come with $100 internet adapter add-on or an HD-DVD drive.

I love these newbies who've been gaming a year or two and think they know what they're talking about XD
Gratisfaction  +   528d ago
PS4 is taking Microsofts' lunch money...
NoWayOut  +   528d ago
And giving MS a wedgie

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Garrison  +   528d ago
I hope the next xbox is an amazing machine. But more than anything I hope that the next version of LIVE is free. I will not pay extra to play online on principle.
JoGam  +   528d ago
Im pretty sure the Xbox will be amazing. It can't afford to be anything less.
DeadlyFire  +   528d ago
I think with both Nintendo and Sony offering free online its really going to crunch Microsoft's XBL fee plan. Just like their plan to charge PC consumers failed I can see them falling backwards on XBL fees at some point, but they are likely to keep them at launch either way just to see how it goes.
Dlacy13g  +   528d ago
I think the definition of what XBL gold is for the next xbox will change. .. what gold gets you on the 360 will be different from what you get on the next xbox.
evilhasitsway  +   528d ago
well it wont be i can tell you that or they would have changed it with the 360 but they didnt.
UnholyLight  +   528d ago
Honestly you have no idea what you are talking about Evilhasitsway. No, Dlacy13g is more than likely correct in his statement and I am sure from a business perspective that is exactly what Microsoft will do.

Why would microsoft change their service through the life of the Xbox 360 that makes no sense. They would have screwed over lots of people who bought yearly subscriptions if they changed their service mid-game. They would have lots of PR issues if they did that and may even be forced to reimburse angry customers.

So no, clearly you don't have the slightest idea how a business works :) I myself am working on a Bachelor's of Commerce so I actually understand how Business works. GUARANTEED, next gen will see some HUGE changes to the Xbox Live platform, and if Sony doesn't announce some sort of changes of their own, then they will most certainly follow Microsoft's lead when Xbox Live gets it's massive refresh.

Hence why I have no problem paying for my online service, I know that money is being used to fund the next thing. Not to mention how well Microsoft has treated me as a customer and how secure Xbox Live has been for me!
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bluetoto  +   528d ago
Sorry bud but when you have tons of folks paying for live and defending having to pay a fee to gain access to the other half of their game, don't hold your breath.

MS has found their golden goose and it's called XBL GOLD supporters.
Caffo01  +   528d ago
"Ten years ago, to think we would be the leader in our second generation is a achievement,"

LOL, who's the leader?? O_o
morkendo23  +   528d ago
SONY IS!!!!!!
HITANDRUN  +   528d ago
Nice San antonio tower you have there lol... And sony is dead last. No changing that, they lost the most market.
Hicken  +   528d ago
The market, overall, has grown. This generation may well see more than 300 million systems sold when it's all said and done, which will be close to a hundred million more than last generation.

If you're talking percentages, then yes, Sony lost market share.

If you're talking about being "last," that seems to refer more to something like sales. And in that department, Microsoft is- or will soon be- pulling up the rear.

Or core gaming support. They seem to be lagging behind there, as well.

Even without all that, can you tell me where- aside from doing things like turning people into cash cows with online connectivity fees- Microsoft is leading the industry?
StrongMan  +   528d ago
Like many have said, MS is extremely worried right now and it shows.
abzdine  +   528d ago
it's important for the industry it's because it's important for them to see what others are doing before they decide what to implement and what not to.
BanBrother  +   528d ago
He is right, it is good for the industry. Any console announcement is good.

I take it both consoles will release at the end of the year. Sony may as well tell us the specs for the PS4. As there is no way possible MS could change their specs and still expect to release it this year or even early next year. They wouldn't dare come to the party late, as even Sony trailed behind for a bit this gen, so I'dassume the nextbox would de-rail completely'if'it were too late.

Basically, I want Sony to reveal the specs as the rumours are getting f***ing annoying. Can't wait for the 20th. A Sony console reveal happens every so many years, and I don't want to miss it.
T-What  +   528d ago
They will not reveal the specs on the 20th, they will announce the ps4, show its near final design and show a few tech demos and maybe a game or 2 and then say wait for more info at E3. We will not know specs until there e# show or possible after.
1Victor  +   528d ago
I LOL at the last paragraph in the article. That shows fear in those words.
abzdine  +   528d ago
now everything is up to Sony. i wish they're not gonna try to catch the mobile gamers and casuals, they can just focus ))% on gamers who already own a PS3, PSP, Vita, 360 and PCs and that's a lot of people.

Bring it on Sony, make games for everyone and a 399€ price point would do it, and a release on black friday week and everything should be alright! Add to that a nice lineup with Uncharted4, WipEout 4K, The Last Guardian, FIFA and COD and that's it
Caffo01  +   527d ago
FIFA and COD?? you shouldn't even mention these games in the same phrase of U4 and TLG...
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strigoi814  +   528d ago
im thinking sony and MS are joining forces????

lolz
HITANDRUN  +   528d ago
Good one. I wished Sony could buy off MS gaming division, but I believe its the oposite happening lol..
evilhasitsway  +   528d ago
its like this just awhile back on here everyone was like well if ms comes out first even psn fans would pick it up because everyone so eager to get a real next gen same goes if sony comes first the ms people will buy ps4 and thats sells ms will loose at first cause then the ms people will most likely wont have the money on release to get. it would put sony in the lead. me i like xbox its a ok system but i have always like sonys product better its better for games. thats just me used to mgs was only for psn now for both and gta also for both now. but when it comes to exclusives sony has ms beat by a long shot. the only thing that really held ps3 back compared to xbox was cross game chatt and most likely it will be on ps4 so that just makes it almost the perfect system. im just ready to see what both consles have in store for this gen.
lovegames718  +   528d ago
Yeah its not far fetched and reminds me of an espionage book but i find it hard to believe both camps dont have insiders feeding them information on what is to be expected. Its part of the game and all companies do it trying to get an upper hand so im assuming Microsoft already knows whats coming!
Kidmyst  +   528d ago
IF Sony does announce the PS4 on the 20th and doesn't focus on Eye toy and casual stuff and shoe new IP's, exclusive AAA titles. This will get the gaming fans abuzz and will tell Microsoft what we really want. Then by E3, maybe Microsoft won't focus so much on Kinect to challenge Sony.
PAYNEinc85  +   528d ago
I don't give a shit who announces theirs first. I'll be buying both eventually anyways.
BertlSenix  +   528d ago
Da fuck?
Microsoft talks about being the leader?
They aren't - Sony is ahead of them and destroyed them even after Microsoft did put all this effort and had a really good start into this Gen.
The last years the PS3 raped the 360 and Sony got on the 1st place in terms of HD Consoles and at least on 2nd place if you count the Wii.

In no chart the 360 is first.
Its the PS3 or the Wii and thats a fact.
Braid  +   528d ago
Of course they'll do what they're supposed to do.

But the PS4's revelation might lead some people to save up their money they originally planned to spend for a current-gen console. I know that if I didn't own a PS3 right now, I would never buy one after the PS4 announcement.

The same goes for the 360, tech heads like myself would rather have the best and the latest. I'd love to play Halo 4 right now but with announcements coming earlier than expected, I'm not willing to re-buy a current-gen console at this point.
Tzunoy  +   528d ago
Partnership?
LAWSON72  +   528d ago
Wow ms when did your console outsell wii... wait a minute it did not, so why are we throwing around the words we were the leaders this gen
IAmTheBest35  +   528d ago
Grimes also said "Ten years ago, to think we would be the leader in our second generation is a achievement," adding that "what has got us to where we are today is not going to be what gets us through the next ten years."

LOL. we all know that xbox 360 will most likely end up finishing in third place. i dont know WHAT this person is talking about, but he has his head pretty far up his ass. clearly.
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evilhasitsway  +   528d ago
UNHOLYLIGHT THIS IS TOO YOU .
http://www.videonuze.com/ar... they even talk about it here it will not be free so ha gaybox boys choke on that just listen when they start talking about price oh by the way next xbox isnt concerned about being a gaming machine which if you are a real gamer thats whats it all about. and i agree with bluetoto
KaBaW  +   528d ago
As much as I would like it to happen, it would still be funny if the 20th isn't about the PS4..
DivineAssault  +   528d ago
If MS strays away from graphical power to go with a more kinect type approach just to cash in on casuals, im not even going to buy their nx console.. They can have the best UI ever created with apps galore & it wont mean a thing to me.. They need bad ass looking new 1st party games that arent all about guns n aliens for me to consider them an option.. They hooked me in the first two times because they had bioware & lionhead studios.. Everything is different now so they better have some reaaaaaaally good IPs for me to even read about the thing...

PS4 all the way! Guaranteed great games with all things PS... Many of them too
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