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LOGICWINS  +   588d ago
Nice review. My copy's in the mail :)
TrendyGamers  +   588d ago
I'll be checking this out soon!
LOGICWINS  +   588d ago
I've never gotten a "cross buy" title before, how does that work? Will I get a voucher in the box?
TrendyGamers  +   588d ago
Nope. You have to put the game into your PS3, go to it on the XMB, and click on 'Disc Benefits'.
Sev  +   588d ago
I can confirm this to be true.
LOGICWINS  +   588d ago
Oh okay thanks! I hope Sony does this with more games. It would make way more people buy a Vita knowing they'll get two games for the price of one =D
dbjj12088  +   588d ago
I didn't know either so thanks for asking!
izumo_lee  +   588d ago
Also remember it is 2 games for only $40, which pardon the pun a definite steal.

Anyways about the review the negatives minus the one about gimmicky controls/camera feel like nitpicks to me personally. How come when some games stay true to the formula they are sometimes regarded as negatives now? I sometimes can't grasp the thinking when it comes to stuff like this.
LOGICWINS  +   588d ago
"How come when some games stay true to the formula they are sometimes regarded as negatives now?"

Simple answer to a simple question. Because certain games stay true to their formula, they will always cater to that niche fanbase that made the franchise popular in the first place. The lack of change, while good for pre-existing fans of the game, does little to promote new fans of the franchise.

Therefore, if a game can only appeal to a niche audience, no one in good conscience can give it a "superb" recommendation to all gamers, because chances are that it won't appeal to most.

A 6.5 score for the rest of the world likely translates to an 8.5 for a Sly fan. Either way, if you know your already getting the game..the score shouldn't matter to you.
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izumo_lee  +   588d ago
Look Logicwins you have some great points sometimes but i have to disagree with you here.

I find what you are saying hard to swallow honestly. It has worked for Mario, God of War, Call of Duty & these games aren't considered niche at all. Their simple gameplay dynamics are what makes fans come back to these game time & time again. Change it too much & they are no longer the same game.

All i am saying is that reviews shouldn't take a game staying true to its roots as a negative & knock the game for it. Why can't a mechanic that has worked well in 3 games all of a sudden not work in 2013? My mind is sometimes flabbergasted by what some of these reviewers come up with as excuses at times.
DigitalAnalog  +   587d ago
"Therefore, if a game can only appeal to a niche audience, no one in good conscience can give it a "superb" recommendation to all gamers, because chances are that it won't appeal to most."

This is a horrible statement. How can you give so much credence with "mainstream" titles in comparison to the "niche"? I thought the game should be judged by it's merits and so you use such strawman to give validity to reviewers in favor of "mainstream"titles. This is review hijacking at it's worst and to support such actions is disgraceful.

By your "logic" Dark Souls and Demon's souls should get extremely low scores because - according to you - cannot be recommended to ALL gamers because chances are it won't appeal to most. Your ideal review scenario would have all the dumbed down, COD-fied AAA-backing titles being GOTY candidates since each of them are CATERED to the mainstream gamer.
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dbjj12088  +   588d ago
$40? Cross buy? Ehhhhh... maybe.
knifefight  +   587d ago
Friends With Disc Benefits.
dboyc310  +   588d ago
Such a low score because it stuck to what it does best? Ok just knowing how it stuck to how the originals played makes it a guarantee buy for me.
TongkatAli  +   588d ago
It needed more COD elements /s
Merrill  +   587d ago
Well they gave dead space 3 a 9.0, so it seems you're correct.
majiebeast  +   588d ago
Yeah and when they change the formula, its always how they should stick to it. As developer you just cant win.
smashcrashbash  +   588d ago
Ignore it.Only PlayStation games get penalized for sticking with tried and true formulas.In their case that is called monotony and sameness.For Halo and Mario that is called being classic and 'if it ain't broken don't fix it'.And any complaints about it being the same game falls on deaf ears.
HarryMasonHerpderp  +   588d ago
That's actually quite true.
testerg35  +   588d ago
Damn this xbox 360 site for reviewing Sly and being biased against the Playstation! Oh wait...
Good_Guy_Jamal  +   587d ago
Yeah somehow I don't see PLAYSTATION lifestyle giving Halo and Mario great scores for sticking to their formulas. In fact I don't see PLAYSTATION Lifestyle giving Halo and Mario any scores. . .for some strange reason.
dafegamer  +   586d ago
@good_guy_jamal
playstation lifestyle only reviews playstation games smartone
Sketchy_Galore  +   588d ago
Obviously I haven't played it yet but it sounds like it deserves a little more if the only major complaint is that it sticks too close to the formula people know and love from the old games. Not that I'm dismissing that as a complaint. Considering we quite recently got a package of three full Sly games that don't even look dated thanks to how well the cartoony art style lends itself to HD, getting one more Sly game on another disc that just looks a little better doesn't seem so exciting comparatively. Still though, it's another effing Sly Cooper game. How could anyone not buy it?
DigitalRaptor  +   588d ago
So if providing Sly Cooper fans with what they want merits a 6.5 (so that's worth a 3.5 point pinch from the top of the scale), a 6.5 it is. I don't expect all reviews to be this brash though. Some people would welcome a vibrant and fun platformer like Sly with open arms and much praise for even bothering to show the genre some love - that's where people like myself come in.
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GuyManDude  +   587d ago
Adam Sessler, who loves this franchise, reviewed it for Rev3Games and gave it a 2/5. He said that the story, gameplay, and boss battles are all pretty poor.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And he really does love the Sly games. I watched a Sessler's Soapbox quite a while back where he was singing Sly's praises when the HD collection came out, saying how the games were just as good now as they were in the past.

I'm still gonna buy it (gotta add that 4th Sly platinum trophy), but my expectations have been adjusted so as not to feel let down if it's not as good as previous entries.
BanBrother  +   588d ago
Wow, Xbox fanboy review /s

Any Sly fan will love it, that is all that matters. I'm almost finished with Ni No Kuni, so I might pick this up ahead of Aliens CM.
plaZeHD  +   588d ago
It's a PlayStation site, genius. What has the gaming community turned into?
TongkatAli  +   588d ago
He was being sarcastic, genius /sarcasm cause you no genius.
plaZeHD  +   587d ago
@TongkatAli
The answer goes back to you.
BoNeSaW23  +   588d ago
"Sucker Punch is known to deliver incredibly responsive and rewarding platforming experiences, but now that they’re no longer at the helm, Sly has failed to really evolve gameplay-wise."

I Love the Sly Cooper series but Sucker Punch never evolved gameplay in the series!? Every game played the same and it felt Great, that's why they stuck with it.

Here's another one of the reviewers complaints: "Unfortunately, you have to tap circle every time you leap to one of these points, otherwise you’ll pass or fall right by it."

HAHA! Someone has NEVER played Sly 1 through 3. This must be one of those "Evolved-Gameplay mechanics Sly is known for!

Crappy reviewer for a Obvious Great game! I Can't wait for my copy to show up. I haven't played since the PS2 era so I am dying for some classic Sly action!
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masa2009  +   588d ago
That's not really true, the second changed quite a bit from the first.
After that, the 3rd was very much like the 2nd with less back and forth to the HQ, less collectibles (which I loved it for because I'm sick of collecting heavy platformers) and the rocket wheelchair.

Personally, I think I'd enjoy the game but I can sort of see why people would expect more.
The AI was always a bit crude and some core gameplay concept could be fleshed out a bit more.
It's a family game at heart so the basic stealth wasn't that bad, but it looks like it's now the 3rd straight game without any evolution.
It's a bit like Ratchet, God of War, Uncharted. It's great for a couple of games but it doesn't really evolve.
If COD and Assassin's Creed get bashed for not evolving, why not Sly?

I agree that Sly seems to have taken more of a hit ratings wise than AC or COD, but it's also a much simpler experience, so the lack of evolution after such a long pause may be more palpable.
BoNeSaW23  +   587d ago
It has been over 10 years since playing Sly 1 but nothing anywhere in the series struck me as "evolved gameplay" or "revolutionary game mechanics" it all felt and played like, well, Sly Cooper!

Pressing circle to land on a object has been present the ENTIRE series correct? Then why does this reviewer complain about it now? Same with the sly humor.

He must of wanted Sly to "Evolve" and add a futuristic magnetic tether or super rocket boots to fly to the top of a building instead of having to jump and(Gasp!) press circle. Not me. I wanted a classic Sly game.

Yes, much like Gears of War, Ratchet, God of War and Uncharted. We all know what type of gameplay and characters to expect. That's why we play them.

Game Franchises that have a core gameplay associated and expected of them do well as long as you have new enemies, environments and replay value, just ask Mario and COD.

I don't recall the last one of those getting a 6/10 for sticking to the same 'ol formula ;)
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TheLastGuardian  +   587d ago
Way to give the game an average score for giving the fans what they want instead of changing what made the series great to appeal to a wider audience. I couldn't happier that Sanzaru stayed true to the formula.
shivvy24  +   587d ago
when ratchet and clank changes up the formula , it gets bashed by reviewers and alot of ppl want original gameplay , sly 4 has original gameplay and reviwer bashes it LOL
arbitor365  +   587d ago
i dont see how you can justify a score like this.

sly 4 is not an incredibly innovative game, but that does not make it a 6.5/10. it stays true to its roots, whose mechanics were already polished to begin with.

its appeal isnt just to people who like the sly franchise, but people who like good 3D platformers in general. there is no reason to shoot this game down. sly 4 does the series and genre justice.

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