@Redempteur: That wouldn't require downtime. You can do that live. It's a seamless process and happens every day as it is with standard protocols for an on-site backup and an off-site backup of data (off-site likely done weekly).
*facepalm* @CaptainYesterday for marking this comment as immature.
No this is affecting all regions and it isn't just PSN, it's the entire SEN that's down. That also includes music & video unlimited and any other ones. It's scheduled to be back up at 2am PST/ 5am EST.
I will never understand why people on N4G don't understand what "disagree" means. You made a factual statement. lol. People will disagree with anything on here.
Not to be one of those guys but, since u gotta pay for plus, how exactly do u get free games? I mean if u dontcpay for plus u cant get them so how exactly are the games free? Its a tecnicality I know but still truthful.
Prepare to be letdown, But I hope something is in store as well.
@iamnsuperman Yea, the current store is weak compared to the older store. I dislike the new design. I find it takes me a lot longer to find new/latest content than the previous store.
they could easily be doing something relating to unreleased consoles.... p after all we are expecting a ps4 announcement very soon and a launch by xmas...
Nothing will change, just like every other bit of maintenance they do on the PSN. No one should be surprised that they haven't been able to get it back online in time though, It happens pretty much every time they do it!
Gochild1020 well from what I remember most of the time they do these things they are never back online when they say they will be (here in the UK it may be different to you). All they do is keep pushing it back, first it was 4pm today, then 10pm, now tomorrow. I wouldn't be surprised if it was down until Sunday (although I seriously hope not). What annoys me most is how vague they are about what's actually happening, obviously it's OK if the network is down for a couple of hours but when it turns into days then they should at least explain what is going on. There are millions of gamers waiting to get online to play on a WEEKEND and yet Sony act as if nothing is wrong.
I usually don't have a problem connecting back after their maintenance has been done when they originally specify. Also remember there are people already connect to the PSN if they were signed on prior to the start of the maintenance.
While I agree that companies should be a little more upfront on why a delay may happen, it's pretty much par for the course when it comes to stuff like this.
Giving details just angers people, because most people act as if it should be simple, based on their limited knowledge of connecting an Ethernet plug into their computer, which does all the work for them. Hell just look at this thread or the other article about it. People act as if Sony doesn't care or isn't doing anything about it. I'm sure their engineers are working non-stop to get it fixed.
These servers are extremely complex, utilizing multiple databases, and hundreds of servers that span globally to provide consumers with service. One unseen error can cause downtime like this, and sometimes the fix isn't something that can be thrown in at a whim. More often than not it requires finding where the error is, fixing it, then making sure it doesn't break something else.
Maintenance suggests replacing broken servers or backing up data. Often times, it also includes updates to the software, and likely in this scenario, it's the new software which caused a problem. Unfortunately new software can't just be uploaded for the sake of a quick fix, as it could cause all sorts of unforeseen consequences or security issues.
What was a big deal was the anon attack that caused PSN to go offline for a whole month. This is nothing in comparison so i dont understand why people are acting like its another PSN attack or something similar.
@Ron-danger
True which is why its shameful that Microsoft charges you for Xgame chat on live. IMO
I've been playing online several times today, and half a dozen times each of the previous two days. If someone hadn't told me there was maintenance going on I wouldn't have even noticed because everything has worked perfectly for me all week.
I think I've got a clue as to what may be going on. My daughter just tried to log in and couldn't even though everything is fine for me.
She hadn't been on since last week. So what I suspect is going on is that their backend database is down but account info is being cached on the front end servers. If you've been online recently enough then your data is still accessible and so everything works fine.
I didn't even notice it has been down, i noticed though that yesterday, when i went to the PS store, i could not back out so i had to shut down my PS3.
Tomorrow?! That's two days after yesterday, ffs. If it's not up the day before two days from now, i'll be sad. I thought it would be up the day before today, but i suppose the day after today is alright. I don't play online and i don't have any money to buy games right now, so it doesn't bother me.
Offline yesterday offline today and tomorrow? So when are the fanboys gonna come in demanding free games because they think they are owed for Sony doing what they want with their network? Just like they cried because the network was hacked and they deserved free things. Ugh fanboys, bunch of whiners.
Hate to break the bad news but Sony got so excited after selling their US property that they got proper carried away and sold off the servers too. Oops! Silly Sony!
The big psn outage of 11 led me to becoming a multi system owner. Ive got both now so honestly this is no biggie to me. Ill just game on the 360 tonight.
Playing some BF3 with my cousin at his house. His account is the only one that can get online. Wish i could get on my account to play with him on the other PS3 instead of taking turns.
Hmmm wonder what they are doing, maybe they are testing some new tech or something? Aswell as updating security and backing everything up.... Wouldn't suprise me if they were using the time to test something related to the ps4- ofc they'd want no new authentications tob e able to get through a)to protect the data on there and b) so noo one can see what it is they atr doing? :P
Oh well, I'll just have to wait I suppose.
it's the full SEN network that is in maintenance now.
*facepalm* @CaptainYesterday for marking this comment as immature.
"I just ate a turkey sandwich."
DISAGREE!
Apparently those people believe you had a "ham" sandwich, not a turkey one.
That's why, even if I have no plans to play on tuesday's, I log on to the playstation store and grab my free playstation plus content.
Always nice to have a few games just sitting on my ps3 hard drive for rainy days.
@iamnsuperman Yea, the current store is weak compared to the older store. I dislike the new design. I find it takes me a lot longer to find new/latest content than the previous store.
I also hate how many times you need to press "yes" or whatever to check something out and download. : /
Gochild1020 well from what I remember most of the time they do these things they are never back online when they say they will be (here in the UK it may be different to you). All they do is keep pushing it back, first it was 4pm today, then 10pm, now tomorrow. I wouldn't be surprised if it was down until Sunday (although I seriously hope not). What annoys me most is how vague they are about what's actually happening, obviously it's OK if the network is down for a couple of hours but when it turns into days then they should at least explain what is going on. There are millions of gamers waiting to get online to play on a WEEKEND and yet Sony act as if nothing is wrong.
Giving details just angers people, because most people act as if it should be simple, based on their limited knowledge of connecting an Ethernet plug into their computer, which does all the work for them. Hell just look at this thread or the other article about it. People act as if Sony doesn't care or isn't doing anything about it. I'm sure their engineers are working non-stop to get it fixed.
These servers are extremely complex, utilizing multiple databases, and hundreds of servers that span globally to provide consumers with service. One unseen error can cause downtime like this, and sometimes the fix isn't something that can be thrown in at a whim. More often than not it requires finding where the error is, fixing it, then making sure it doesn't break something else.
Maintenance suggests replacing broken servers or backing up data. Often times, it also includes updates to the software, and likely in this scenario, it's the new software which caused a problem. Unfortunately new software can't just be uploaded for the sake of a quick fix, as it could cause all sorts of unforeseen consequences or security issues.
they best be fixing that terrible new store
@Ron-danger
True which is why its shameful that Microsoft charges you for Xgame chat on live. IMO
Why is affecting some people but not others?
She hadn't been on since last week. So what I suspect is going on is that their backend database is down but account info is being cached on the front end servers. If you've been online recently enough then your data is still accessible and so everything works fine.
Anyway, i wonder why it's taking some time.
That's two days after yesterday, ffs.
If it's not up the day before two days from now, i'll be sad.
I thought it would be up the day before today, but i suppose the day after today is alright.
I don't play online and i don't have any money to buy games right now, so it doesn't bother me.
Hopefully they'll sort things out quickly.
Wish i could get on my account to play with him on the other PS3 instead of taking turns.
They want it working in fine form when they display ps4's online features.