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dazzrazz   585d ago | Trolling | show
Mathew9R   585d ago | Spam
badz149  +   585d ago
just like the Vita??
OMG this is GREAT NEWS especially for those like me with slow connections! many times, I just want to play the damn games offline but still connected to PSN for any incoming messages but can't because the damn game must be updated 1st and the updates are slapped in your face and you can't do shit about it and huge patches are a pain in the a**! 1 of the most annoying feature on the PS3 for me and man was I glad the Vita is different! come on Sony, don't just do this for the PS+ members, this should be done for all games since the beginning!
unchartedxplorer  +   584d ago
Yeah I haven't touched bf3 ever since that massive 1.5 gig update.
badz149  +   584d ago
I don't mind 1.5GB for an expansion pack for example
but a 1.5GB update/patch? WTF are these devs thinking?
nukeitall  +   584d ago
lol.... 1.5GB update/patch!

What the f*** is in it?
Murad-D12  +   584d ago
Being a BF3 premium member i have to download the patch first and then the DLC, so something around 3 to 4 GB every time a new DLC is available.
And i do it with this trick, downloading the patch and DLC in the background
blackbeld  +   584d ago
@nuketiall

Are you jealous?

Just being curious. :)
Lvl_up_gamer  +   584d ago
@ blackbeld

Why would anyone be jealous about a 1.5 gb patch to the OS so that downloading can b done in the background?

If he only had a 360 and was hooked up to xbl....I assure you he wouldn't be jealous. XBL already allows for background downloads and doesn't need a 1.5 gb patch.

That was a really juvenile question.
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Rhythmattic  +   584d ago
I prefer all bandwidth/latency assigned to the task at hand while Gaming online...
I make sure very computer, and console on my network is not downloading anything while Playing MP...

Call me old fashioned.....
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TemplarDante  +   585d ago
Great news :)
Erudito87  +   585d ago
why did this take soooooo long?
TopDudeMan  +   585d ago
Yeah, that was long overdue. Mind you, ps+ has automatic update that you can do in your sleep.
Nitrowolf2  +   585d ago
it's always been available for PS+, you just interrupt it when it's Downloading during it's set time.

Honestly, I don't use it becuase the set time I have it is 4 AM
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r21  +   585d ago
So i gotta get PS+ to use this?
ALLWRONG  +   584d ago
So you have to pay to get patches?
lodossrage  +   584d ago
Dude
that is not even REMOTELY what it says. All it says its that with Plus, you can download patches in the background.

You get the patches whether you're a Plus subscriber or not.

So to answer your question, NO, you don't pay or patches.

You know ALLWRONG, you're funny. Just a couple of days ago you moaned and whined about PS3 fanboys being all over xbox news here :

http://n4g.com/news/1138545...

Yet here you are, trolling PS3 related news like second nature. Doing the EXACT thing you claimed Black911 was doing.

Not to answer your old question but...NOW do you see why I have five bubbles when you have just two? Common sense factor bro as I stated to you before
ALLWRONG  +   584d ago
Just a simple question. I mean since you have to pay for extra features like "downloading patches in the background" than there should be no more debate about other pay services.
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HeavenlySnipes  +   584d ago
lol are you illiterate? It says if you have PS+ you can download the patches in background. If not, you have to do it like we have been doing for both consoles for years.

lol at twisting a simple concept to push your agenda
JasonKCK  +   584d ago
@lodossrage the dude has a point. live gets trashed allmost daily here because people pay for it. didnt u do the same thing just the other day in a free xbox game news? paying is paying no matter how u look at it. not defending just saying he has a point. maybe you dudes can stop arguing now about trivial things.
lodossrage  +   584d ago
@JasonKCK
Actually no, I responded to when your pal ALLWRONG made an attempt to trash the free games given within the Playstation Plus program. In other words, making a "point" the same way you're "trying" to say he is. There was no "trashing" going on until your buddy threw the first salvo there (go back and read it if you need to) Unless you call someone saying "I got Walking Dead 1 and 2 free from PSN Plus a fire off. Would it have been any less of a salvo had he said "I got Walking Dead 1 and 2 off Steam"?

So go right ahead, keep defending him :). Even with your so called "looking at comment histories" and now you see blatantly how your pal stealth trolls.

And if this "argument" is so trivial, what are you even putting yourself into it? :)

Black911 had a point when he said what he did right? Why didn't you jump and try to save his balls the way you so promptly jump to save ALLWRONG'S? :) But I probably already know the answer to that question anyway
JasonKCK  +   584d ago
didnt black911 and allwrong both get removed 4 trolling? thats what i thought. fact is you r all hypocrites but on this site there r more hypocrites on one side. you r just as guilty of it. not once have i ever said anything bad about ms sony pc or nintendo. can u say the same? will u be in the next cry about live news? how about your buds will they b there 2?
MrBeatdown  +   584d ago
Nice troll attempt.

The difference is clear.

Automatic downloading is a premium version of a free service. Online play on Live is the premium version of no service. Free members can download patches before a game starts on PS3. On 360, free members get to look at a really cool prompt to pay for Gold when they try to play online. The difference? PS3 gamers get a basic, and standard version of a feature. 360 gamers get nothing.

You might have a point on the day Sony restricts all forms of patch downloading to paid subscribers.
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Rumplebumpkin  +   584d ago
As usual, your comments live up to your name.
JasonKCK  +   584d ago
let me see if i get this right. trash live 4 charging things psn and steam give u 4 free but defend psn 4 charging u 4 things steam or live gives 4 free? its like right there and u dont see it? thats like smokers telling other smokers they shouldnt smoke. btw sorry using phone.
lodossrage  +   584d ago
@JasonKCK
EXCEPT for the fact PSN DOESN'T charge for it. You only tried to make it sound like they do with your first account (ALLWRONG). If they did charge for patches, the media would have been all over it.

You'd think on one of your accounts you'd exercise some knowledge. And yes, I AM implying you have more than one. Since you conveniently seem to come to Allwrong's rescue. Not to mention you seem to pop up JUST when Allwrong has no more bubbles.

If that wasn't enough, just check your genders on both your accounts. You could have did yourself a favor by changed at least one of them fromm "u". If you're going to have multiple accounts and stealth troll, be less obvious next time.
DigitalRaptor  +   584d ago
@ ALLWRONG & the dupe account JaconKCK

You're a moron and fail to understand why Live is "trashed" on here on a "daily basis(?)".

The service itself is not trashed. Microsoft are criticized for charging their customers for basic Peer 2 Peer online gameplay and there's nothing illogical or fanboyish about recognizing that it's a fundamental rip off and disrespectful to consumers to give them no option. I would probably own an Xbox console if it was free to connect to online games, and that is the cutoff point for me. When I can't even connect to a P2P game for free, it's game over.

And I think you know the difference between this feature on PS+ and MS FORCING you to pay.

"""I mean since you have to pay for extra features like "downloading patches in the background" than there should be no more debate about other pay services."""

No comparison. It's just that - an "extra" feature. It's not something so fundamental to what games are, like online gameplay to the majority of the games you own. The choice to download patches for free is still there. Just because it offends you that people can see what MS has been doing for years, doesn't mean we're not gonna express human logic.

So just face it, no one with any logic is bagging on the quality XBL service. Just Microsoft's poor industry standards and removing your option of something so basic that the rest of the industry gets for free.

If you think what you're saying about PS+ is any sort of comparison, you'd be dead wrong. ALL wrong.
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Lvl_up_gamer  +   584d ago
Wait so I am confused.

With PS+ which is a paid subscription, I can download patches and upgrades in the background where if I wasn't a paid subscriber to PS+ I would still obviously get to download upgrades and patches but just not in the background.

I'm sorry but if I do have this correct, this feature should be standard across the board and not to people who pay. This is not a privilege service feature.

I hope we can stop with all this Paying for XBL bs to use apps when in actuality people are paying for the online service and features first and everything else is just free extras because that same bs argument can be said that people have to pay for ps+ just to download upgrades and patches in the background
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   584d ago
OH BOY...

No surprise ALLWRONG looking for any ammo he can get his hands on.

I can't believe you even asked such a question. Why would Sony charge people for patches?

Anyhow this isn't even a feature. It helps to actually read the article. This is a work around/trick, hence the tutorial given in the article, but this trick can only be utilized by PS+ users. It uses the "automatic update" which automatically downloads things such as software updates while the system is off(when the power light is red) and this function is only available to PS+ users.

This article is just showing us a trick to use the automatic update to download things such as patches in the background. This isn't official though I wish Sony made a much more convenient official background download feature though, PS+ exclusive or not.

@Lvl_Up_Gamer

The main issue with Xbox Live isn't that the free apps are exclusive to gold. If it bothers one so much just have your laptop next to you if want to use the "apps that are free elsewhere" that people go on about. The main issue is that you have to pay in order play the online portion of your games. You say that people pay for XBL because of the service and features first which I'm sure a large percentage do, but I'm willing to bet the major reason why people renew their payment regularly is because not doing so would result in them losing the online multiplayer on their games which honestly should not be a "privilege service feature."
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Rhythmattic  +   584d ago
Lvl_up_gamer

Yes , you are confused.

Compare all you want, but PSN, with no cost, allows you to play the multiplayer portion of the game you have purchased... Thats right, no extra cost. Like very other platform, bar 360.

The day online play becomes free on Live, is the day I will actually consider your pro live posts as informing....

But we know, that probably wont happen.
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crossunitedfate  +   584d ago
LOL someone was caught
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lodossrage  +   584d ago
@JasonKCK
And? what does either of them being removed for trolling have to do with the question I asked?

What I asked was this:

"Black911 had a point when he said what he did right? Why didn't you jump and try to save his balls the way you so promptly jump to save ALLWRONG'S? :) But I probably already know the answer to that question anyway"

Not a hard question to answer is it?

And I don't cry about live. If you checked my comments the way you say you did, you'll noticed I'm hardly ever in 360 news.

And no I can't say I haven't said anything bad about MS. But then again, I'm not the one that constantly goes around purposely trolling my gripes about them either. Go right ahead, check and see how many "cry about Live" articles I'm in.

And for as "trivial" as you say this is, you're sure enough "all-up-in-it" aren't you?

EDIT: ALLWRONG, do I look like your girlfriend. Stop PMing me.
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Gamesgbkiller  +   585d ago
Just figured this out when my PS3 was updating after shut down
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CRASHBASHUK  +   585d ago
you could do this since ps+ in summer 2010
only for psn+? steam does this all the time.
dantesparda  +   584d ago
thats not the what the article is trying to say or the point of it. They aint saying only ps plus does this, they are saying a way to do this on ps3 is with ps plus
Der_Kommandant  +   585d ago
My prayers were answered
Jdoki  +   585d ago
This is a great feature for PS+ subscribers. I like how it downloads and installs the patches / updates, syncs trophies and has new firmware ready and waiting for install.

But I do think this should be a standard feature.

There is nothing more annoying than trying to jump in to an online game and having to wait for an update to download. If something impacts users ability to play the games they have bought in this way, then it should not be reserved for PS+ subscribers.
BanBrother  +   585d ago
"If something impacts users ability to play the games they have bought in this way, then it should not be reserved for PS+ subscribers."

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
NewsWithFriends  +   584d ago
i just let + do it's thing while i sleep.... i already push to many buttons when i play the work around is just to many steps ;-)
AznGaara  +   584d ago
I haven't seen a patch download screen in forever. Psn+ with 6am automatic updates = win lol
SaffronCurse  +   584d ago
Easily worth it just for that feature alone, saved me so many hours of updating.
stone_cold  +   584d ago
awesome!
SolidGear3  +   584d ago
IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME!!
TheGamingArt  +   584d ago
This has been a feature of automatic updates from the start..... How do you think game patches were downloaded and updated for auto updates? Really people... Took you this long to continue playing your ps3 during an auto update.
Kidmyst  +   584d ago
I just install the game then let PS+ update that night. I always play single player first so don't need the updates right away for that. When I got my slim and had to reinstall all my Rock band songs, it was awesome to download all the songs and packs and have the icons all showing then that night plus auto installed them. No 1x1 reinstalls of 100 songs and packs.
Donnywho  +   584d ago
Wouldn't a hard freeze while installing an update brick a Ps3? Too many games these days are sold with game crashing, hard freeze errors. You don't want a hard freeze when your system is trying to install something.
rainslacker  +   584d ago
If you mean a system update then there is a fail safe to prevent bricking now. I believe a copy of the original software is stored on the system firmware. I had the power go out during an update about a year ago, and when I restarted the PS3 had a fussy message about not turning off the power during an update, it did a disc check, then installed the update afterwards.

If a game freezes you usually have to do a hard restart and it'll recheck the hard drive(happened to me quite a lot on ME1 this past week). I'd imagine if it's during an install or update you may have to reinstall the game software and updates since they could be corrupted or incomplete, but the system files are likely protected on the hard drive.
Donnywho  +   583d ago
I'm just glad you were able to survive a shutdown from a power outage during an install. I've experienced the hard freeze system check/restore with black ops2 and fight night champion but I don't think it's ever had to actually restore anything yet.
landog  +   584d ago
both sony and ms need to get on the ball next gen with multitasking, consoles right now are so far behind, it feels like im using a computer from my elementary school...the ones with beige cases

i want to be able to dowload 3 demos, while i'm playing a game AND four of my games are getting the patches they need, I should be able to, at the same time, pause my game, check my email, check the forums of a game im currently playing and ask a question to the community and then call a friend who is doing all the same things on his system with entirely different games.

steam can do all that and more plus it has mods, and AMAZING sales and it has a console coming out soon!

sony, microsoft...make it happen! your new systems need to be able to do all of those things
Belking  +   584d ago
"i want to be able to dowload 3 demos, while i'm playing a game AND four of my games are getting the patches they need, I should be able to, at the same time, pause my game, check my email, check the forums of a game im currently playing and ask a question to the community and then call a friend who is doing all the same things on his system with entirely different games."

You can already do almost all of that with consoles minus visiting forums.
landog  +   584d ago
you can have four games patching at once while downloading 3 demos?

to my knowledge, and i could be wrong, you need the disc of the game in, and then it to be launched to patch a console game
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BitbyDeath  +   584d ago
With plus you can but i agree that we need to see a lot more multi-tasking on the next consoles.

PS. You don't need the disc in to get patches with plus, all it needs to know is that you've played it recently.
rainslacker  +   584d ago
@Bitby

I believe it will update regardless of when you last played. That's what that thing is whenever you start a new game it asks if you want to use the cloud and turn auto-update on/off for it. I never thought to check if I could turn it off for individual games I don't play anymore. With auto-update I haven't seen a patch screen unless it's a brand new game.
Hicken  +   584d ago
... steam isn't doing that. Your PC is. Steam is a program, and can only do as much as the hardware it's on- your PC- can handle.
Bladesfist  +   584d ago
Steam is doing it. Your hardware would not be downloading steam games without steam. None of this is heavy, my intel atom laptop can do this.
silkrevolver  +   584d ago
It only took them 6 years...
enkeixpress  +   584d ago
very welcomed feature :)
AnimeAvenger  +   584d ago
Cool feature, but honestly this should be a feature for everyone. Same thing with automatic updates.
stage88  +   584d ago
Get plus, you won't regret it.
SolidAhmed  +   584d ago
PS4 is almost here!
onandonandon  +   584d ago
My PS3 downloads and installs any patches overnight while I'm asleep so I don't really understand what the big issue is!!!
despair  +   584d ago
I've been doing this for a while now when I realised the system put the patches in my download list. What I don't get is why if it can be done its not a standard feature now, they've had quite some time to add it to a firmware update.
BitbyDeath  +   584d ago
I think it was used as a selling feature at first for PS+ but i don't think it needs it now.

Hopefully the PS4 will make it standard.
despair  +   584d ago
maybe, but when i get a new game its kinda annoying to wait 3 hours(slow net and some patches are huge) to download a patch when I should be able to do other things on my ps3 in the meantime.

now i have to set my auto update time to whatever time it is, then switch off my ps3, then give it a couple minutes if auto update and finally exit it to see it in my download list, all it needed was a "download in background" option that they added so long ago to games and videos and almost every other downloadable thing.
rainslacker  +   584d ago
It's not an official feature offered by Sony. Just a workaround. Could even be called an exploit. It's funny because this has been possible to do for a while, yet now everyone is crying foul. I might as well if it were officially supported by Sony.
despair  +   583d ago
it always annoyed me but I just never went vocal with it and this was a good opportunity to do so.
rainslacker  +   583d ago
Being vocal isn't a bad thing. I don't really think N4G is the place to do so though if you want to see them make change. Sony has forums for this kind of stuff. They even have a feature request thread. Your much more likely to be heard there, because I highly doubt Sony's engineers are spending time here.
caffman  +   584d ago
"puts on steel helmet"
Hasn't this been a feature on xbox live since day 1?
stage88  +   584d ago
Nope.
Belking  +   584d ago
Yep.
Sp1d3ynut  +   584d ago
In a sense, yes...but better. From day 1, the 360 game patches have been incorporated into the launching of a game, so it downloads, installs, and reboots the game, all in a matter of seconds. There have never been any ridiculous game or system updates on the 360 that tie up your console and knock you out of gaming for a while. On the PS3, that's been a common theme. MS has always had very stringent certification protocols for updates, DLC, etc...but for a damn good reason. Just one of the many things that make XBL the superior service it's always been.
Rhythmattic  +   584d ago
Sp1d3ynut

Lets put this in perspective...

Thats great and all, but even if live updates , for example COD, and i go to play MP online without a gold account, it wont let me....

Thats right, Damn it, all these great supposed features and I cant play online?

Guess a Silver account user will never know. Afterall, thats mainly what all updates generally fix right? Multiplayer...
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Sp1d3ynut  +   584d ago
1.) all updates are free, including Silver accounts

2.) If you buy COD for the 360, you will have XBL Gold...pretty dumb to buy it otherwise.

3.) Like I said, the many features of Live are what make it the superior service, and more than worth the $$ to those who use it. MS uses much of the subscription fees to continue improving their product...something Sony and Nintendo should be doing.

This article is about what again? Oh yeah...how broken the PS3 way of handling such simple things like updates has always been...and they only try to fix the problem 6 years later...and you have to pay for PS+ to use it. If Sony charged for online like MS, they'd have the necessary operating capital to work through technical problems like this on the fly, and wouldn't have the half-assed service they have today. So what exactly was your point? Troll harder.
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Rhythmattic  +   584d ago
Sp1d3ynut

1.) all updates are free, including Silver accounts
*Guess your missing the point that a, on a silver account, downloads a generally useless patch for the online potion of a game, you know, the bit that actually matters.

2.) If you buy COD for the 360, you will have XBL Gold...pretty dumb to buy it otherwise.
*Many uninformed parents nullify that sentence. Also dont forget the grandparents..
BTW, here is Oz there is COD Blops advertisement, which at the end sells the 360 @ $199.
Yep $199 means no COD , no Gold... Not stated anywhere in the advert...
People dont need to be dumb, but be ill informed. Thats all it takes.

3.) Like I said, the many features of Live are what make it the superior service, and more than worth the $$ to those who use it. MS uses much of the subscription fees to continue improving their product...something Sony and Nintendo should be doing.

* Sony has also been improving their PSN , at no extra cost. Maybe thats something MS should be doing?
Should I also remind you online MP for free ? amongst other things such as Netflix ect
Sure, there are great things on live, but compare silver to PSN. Think about it.

Yeh, XMB is slow compared to dashboard, PS3 doesent have CGC.... But beyong that, if you think your dollars are going into code for games using P2P , like COD, you are dreaming.... At least the PS3 has dedicated servers for some games...

Again, Maybe thats something MS should be doing?

As I said, MOST of these updates generally have to do with Multiplayer updates of a game, something of absolutely no benefit to Silver members.

So maybe you had to wait on PSN , but when you downloaded that MP patch, or DLC you could play online.... NO EXTRA COST.

And as the title suggests , its an improvement of PSN .

Get it?
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Sp1d3ynut  +   584d ago
I just checked out some of your previous posts, and you're like a broken record. There's no reason for me, or anyone else, to try and reason with you, as your mind is like a block of concrete. Moving on...
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kingPoS  +   584d ago
I noticed that too when I interrupted an auto-update.

I like using it to the fullest as well.
ajax17  +   584d ago
Old news to me... Still that function of PS+ should have always been available imo
Optical_Matrix  +   584d ago
I hope this doesn't remain PS+ exclusive. The Wii U can do it out of the box so I'm hoping Sony make it an OS level feature with PS4.
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KingKevo  +   584d ago
I already knew that trick, but some people probably didn't, so thanks for telling them. It's really usefull, especially when some games have ridiculously huge patches.
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no_more_heroes  +   584d ago
Like Uncharted 3 when I popped it into my new ps3 that I won from 11x2's lottery last month. Being a 360 owner I'm not used to huge patches like that. This, of course, right after the system update as well! Wasn't too much of a bother, but damn, that was some update! I thought I'd only see long a$$ update procedures like that on a pc lol!

PSN ID: keybladeKnight23
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