You know what's weird? I can't see where Google predicts any such thing. As I use Google Adwords, I had a look at their tools. I searched stats for PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox 720 globally without any language restrictions to see what type of data Google spit out regarding how often these terms are searched for.
According to Google, monthly searches for the PS4 versus Xbox 720 during the past 12 averaged out equally at 823,000 searches each month. So how did this site figure out that Xbox 720 was the most popular search? That's not what Google's analytics tools are showing me. So how did they get their results? It would have been nice if they had explained how they came by these numbers, and posted numbers instead of percentages.
Something else I found interesting is that by far, "PS3" crushed all the other search terms. Over the past 12 months, globally the term "PS3" was searched for 55.6 million times every month. By comparison, Xbox 360 was searched an average of 30.4 million times every month. PS4 and Xbox 720 hardly register as a blip against the current gen consoles.
Have a look at the screenshot I took of the results. Read into it what you will but as I said, I'd be interested to see how this site came up with their results. Simply checking to see how often PS4/Xbox 720 was searched globally during the past 12 months certainly doesn't back up their claim.
it did that because googles internal results are different than that of your results.
google has been putting us in information bubbles for about 3 years now, meaning your search results are different than mine. and its not just determined by your location.
google is giving you search results that have the highest likelyhood to get you to see pages with their adsense installed. personalized by your attributes and your tendancy to look at certain types of pages.
google is an information beast and its scary how much information they have on the general public just from interpolation.
so in short your google search results are provided by algorithms that are personalized by what it thinks are your interests and it never asks if you want to see outside your bubble.
@Autodidactdystopia Did you even pay attention to the screenshot? Those aren't personalized search results, those are the statistics provided by Google Analytics/AdWords.
["google is giving you search results that have the highest likelyhood to get you to see pages with their adsense installed. personalized by your attributes and your tendancy to look at certain types of pages. "]
Does that means that the article originator's results was biased by Google based on his own habits? Interesting fact!
playstation 4 vs xbox 720: playstation used to dominate, but Xbox overtook (note, the next xbox is often reffered to as durango, xbox loop, xbox infinity, xbox next i.e. no clear cut like playstation 4) http://www.google.com/trend...
@darkride66:
Your data doesn't seem right at all, because global and local search data is the same?
Also, the next Xbox has many different names, but the Playstation is pretty specific.
What is that GoogleAdwords image showing? It's impossible that ps4 and xbox 720 would have the same number of hits and that local and global searches would be equivalent. The results also seem very low considering the amount of owners and prospective owners of the consoles there are.
nukeitall's links are much better and the point about the naming of the nextbox will definitely skew results massively as it has many different names which could be searched.
So how did this site figure out that Xbox 720 was the most popular search?
Maybe there was 1 extra search on the 720 searches in statics that usually means 99% of the world's population is only searching for that item/thing/product.
Who'd have guessed that the Wii would have been the best selling console of the last 5 years; back in 2006?
Who'd have guessed that the 360 would have been such a commercial success, after the original Xbox failed to make back it's R&D budget?
Who'd have guessed that Sony would gone on to develop the best selling console of all-time (PS2), back when they were in talks with Nintendo to create CD peripherals for the N64?
No one, that's who. Google are no different. Every new generation is a lottery, some falter whilst some strike gold.
Obviously "xbox" and "xbox 360" dominate over "playstation" because very few people search for PS3 information by typing out "playstation". "xbox" gets credit for a search when "xbox 360" is searched, as well. If you wait a fair comparison, you have to compare what people actually search against. Try "ps3" instead of "playstation" or "playstation 3".
"ps3" dominates "xbox 360", just like "xbox" dominates "playstation". But "ps3" and "xbox" are almost dead even.
This isn't rocket science. You have to know what people typically type when trying to get information on those two subjects and then compare those things.
I completely agree with you. These search results prove nothing. Even if these statistics are true, it does not provides a reason for the searches being conducted. We can use the figures from search results for PS3 to claim that PS4 will dominate next-gen because of its increasing popularity. We can also say that PS3 was able to eliminate the sales gap between both consoles despite launching a year late so it will be popular next-gen as well. Even if the search results really do mean that XBOX 720 is more popular thought right now, we cannot predict anything until both companies reveal their consoles. Public opinion can change very quickly based on new information. Finally predicting future accurately is impossible for anybody, even Google or the most powerful supercomputer in the world. Therefore this article is only looking for hits with its headline and serves no other purpose.
"Weakness" = not strong market compared to the other 2, now it's catching up only with X360, but before that it was going against X360 + Wii
PSN is not the powerhouse Live is and it doesn't have the strenght to make people upgrade to the next gen system the same way Live will do for MS
PS4 will not have Backward Compatibility, meaning that ALL you Bought from the Store will not be available in your PS4, meawhile MS will make sure that your account and everything on it will be available on the XBX3
And if people think it's not an issue, BC made PS2 an easy purchase and IF the PS3 wasn't $600, it could have done the same for that console, a PS4 missing PS2+PS3 games will be as LAME as people with PSP UMDs that can't be played in the Vita...
Don't be an idiot. There is no tinfoil hat bull with what Autodidactdystopia is saying. Google is collecting data on everyone. It happens automatically. That's how google's servers work. Why do you think ads come up based upon what you recently viewed or searched?
The thing here is that google doesn't collect specific information. They don't give a damn about your personal lives. They want the overall information of what everyone is searching to apply it to trends etc. Think of it as you taking a survey that you're not aware of taking.
that was an awesome video... I have often felt that search results are filtered, but this explained it in an amazing way...
thanks..
As far as on this topic, I don't know if the results of the search on PS4 and 720 are accurate or not, -but to me it doesn't matter because I will base my decision off of what I see when they present the systems...
As I'm sure most people will do the same.. Nothing will sell the systems better then showing something amazing..
Searching for info on a system that's not even out and has an real info out to base a buying decision on, is the silliest way of telling which one will sell more...
(there is no real way to tell at this point) -Not until we actually see something.
Your findings were correct, but it's in how you search. Junk in, Junk out. To properly gather data from any of Google's tools, you have to know how to use Google.
For example some people do not know that under the Local column, the results mean U.S. And global means global.
There are so many nuances to using Google's information.
This is too why so many sites fail with their SEO. They are not targeting correctly because of faulty searches.
Aside from that. Your finding are correct. But check again and filter by Video games Console or something similar.
PS4 does not always stand for Playstation 4. PS4 could be part of a serial number, book index, cart part #. The list goes on and on.
The site just provides the findings and adds commentary. Findings that were researched over a couple of weeks and graphs that depicted as accurately and as PLAINLY the results.
First of all GOOGLE said NOTHING. Also if rumors are true google tv might come with the ps4 which would be a big blow to Microsoft. Why are xbox fanboys happy about this? Do they want MS to have a monopoly on core gamers? Microsoft acts like a monopoly when it comes to the xbox already arrogantly developing the same ip's for the past 3 years. Now wonder how many they will make if they were a monopoly?
Research makes my brain hurt...the site gave us a pretty graph without any real information which is much more user friendly in today's fast paced world of instant mac and cheese and hour long trips to starbucks...don't you know how to be a journalist today?
I know the 2nd link is probably unrealistic, since it just comes naturally to put a gap inbetween the "x" & "3". Kind of shows how results can be skewed. ----------------------------- ------------------- As for the PS4 & Xbox 720, here are the results:
I don't see how any level headed indivdual could believe otherwise. I mean, it's a really tough sell.
In 2005 the Xbox was a non-factor, now it has unseated the Playstation for brand recognition. The emergence of Microsoft in the console race, going from zero to hero, and Sony's fall from dominance indicate that next gen we'll see the gap between the two increase.
Not to mention Sony's troubling financial situation. Sorry, I don't care how good Uncharted 4 is, if Sony can't keep their credit rating out of the current "junk" status that this isn't a company I want to invest $500 into.
A better article would be, "Will PS4 be Sony's last console?"
Microsoft didn't go from zero to hero. PS3 and 360 are tied in sales, which means the PS3 is ending up in second place while Microsoft is gonna be last once again.
In 2005 the Xbox was a non-factor, now it has unseated the Playstation for brand recognition.
Yes maybe in the states but here in Europe (except the UK) nobody cares for the Xbox. Playstation is still king in europe.
Plus people are not that stupid here in europe to buy a console that dies on you(RROD)and still buy another one, and paying 50 euro to play online when everybody else let you play for free (psn,nintendo, pc).
The only thing that sels an xbox in europe and i think every where else is the fact that it is very easy to hake like the ps2 at the time.
Plus next gen they will have more competition from valve when they release their console steam.
Yes microsoft did go from zero to hero. the ps2 had 150 million units sold last gen with xbox around 28 million.
this gen according to vgchartz 360 has 72.3 million units while ps3 has 70.3 million units. the fact that msoft minimally tied sony let alone is beating them in sales as of now is extraordinary. dont even mention nintendo- they have 100 million units sold with the wii- very impressive considering gamecube sold only around 20 million last gen.
ultimately in sales i dont see ps3 or xbox 360 having a major advantage over one another- ill call it a tie, but to be 100% honest xbox improved- nintendo improved- sony did not improve coming from the persective ps2 has 150 million units sold. the ps3 is dissapointing terms of success when compared to ps2.
im sorry but its the truth- sony no longer dominates the market like it once did. it has great exclusives and games- but in terms of business they have to do better
****this gen according to vgchartz 360 has 72.3 million units while ps3 has 70.3 million units.**** you lost every credibility when talked about numbers from vgchartes
by vgchartes logic (if they had any) since they tied in sales ps3 didn't sell one single console while xbox sold 3m world wide ?!lol WTF is going on in that site
if there is any one can believe vgchartes ... then he's just a tool or dumb
should i trust Vgchartes or should i trust the owners them self ?! hmmmmmmmm... tough question;)
Lets wait and see the "end of life" sales figures of the PS3 against the Xbox360 (wink, wink). Going by the PS2 strength (which is still going) you are in for even an bigger surprise son.
You really would have to remove all the RROD send backs as these end up getting fixed up and sent back out.
Which MS calls a sale, which in the real world isn't a sale at all.
at best MS probably only has around 40 to 50 million consoles at people's home around the world the rest will be in dumps and warehouses waiting for something to be done to them.
MS just had it's first reported non profit this year, in other words MS in 2012 didn't make any money and lost money overall for the year.
In Australia the stores used to push the 360 now they push the ps3 because it's the only console that is selling and has plenty of new games coming out all the time.
In fact the PS3 part is the largest out of all the sections in the eb game stores.
LMAO...wait with only one system on the market at a time? "In 2005 the Xbox was a non-factor, now it has unseated the Playstation for brand recognition. The emergence of Microsoft in the console race, going from zero to hero, and Sony's fall from dominance indicate that next gen we'll see the gap between the two increase."
I love this, you just let it slip your mind about market share is not just "one system" vs ONE SYSTEM BEING THE ONLY INDICATION OF MARKET SHARE!
Go into any store, and lets see who has more product @ retail to sell, both Nintendo and Sony have more than one freaking game system in the retail channel. but market share is only counted for a one console market share is only the market share that counts? could it be because Microsoft only has, ummm lets see the one freaking console?
LMAO...
the market share is thus
Nintendo is 1st with 7 systems in the retail chain.
Sony is 2nd with 4 systems in the retail chain
Microsoft has 1 system in the retail chain.
yea Microsoft's one single system "excluding all other 3 more Playstation systems aside from the PS3 has made sure Microsoft has more Market share in the market if you exclude all other playstation systems in the retail chan and choose to ignore and not count them in total to determine platforms market share!
here is an idea lets just discount Nintendo's 6 other systems also and only count the Wii being the only system = that determines Nintendo's Market share vs's Microsoft's market share.
like lets discount all other Android Handset's except for Samsung's to determine Microsoft's OS market share for Windows Phone in smartphones!
LMAO get out of here with that claim, Microsoft's unseated Sony for market share, hey Microsoft have a dedicated game handheld ?
that would be a NO!
look no one could say that Microsoft's xbox360 has not increased the xbox "platform" in the market or how Microsoft has grown the platforms market share, but do not sit there and say they unseated a platforms marketshare with only one system when you are not counting all the other systems that a platform holder offer's in the same market. Microsoft will have a 2nd system on the market when the next xbox releases, the thing to wonder about is how well will Microsoft be able to support yet another xbox on the retail chain with the xbox360 also being in the chain, and if the install base will keep supporting the xbox360, or with those very same people move on and not really buy xbox360 software because its not the newest uptodate xbox?
that's a question Sony and Nintendo both have already answered already Microsoft has yet to answer that in this market.
Xbox 360 and PS3 are tied in sales. This is a HUGE victory for Microsoft.
The original Xbox was barely a blip in the 6th generation of consoles, while the PS2 and PS1 were kings. This gen, Microsoft has destroyed the dominance of the Playstation brand (Sony did it to themselves, arguably).
Let's face the facts: the Xbox 360 finishing tied with PS3 at the end of this gen would be a MASSIVE victory for Microsoft. Hell, if the PS3 sells only 10 million more consoles, that would still be a victory for Microsoft.
Going into next gen, Microsoft will be looking to continue what they did with the Xbox 360 while Sony will be looking to forget about the PS3, find out where they went wrong, and look back at their successes with PS1 and PS2.
Way to generalize. Under that logic, Nintendo would've NEVER been able to outperform Sony on this generation of consoles, sales wise, because Sony absolutely destroyed everything for 10 straight years, with the PS1 and PS2 (even being a big factor in the Dreamcast's demise in the process).
Then they released the PS3, and Nintendo the Wii... and Wii has actually sold more than 30 million more units than the PS3, and ALWAYS at a profit.
Understand this: the console market is incredibly turbulent, and there's absolutely no way to predict what will happen on the next generation of consoles, less so if we don't even know anything about what Sony and Microsoft will do for their next machines in terms of power, pricing, games, and marketing strategy. Heck, it's too early to try and make predictions even about the Wii U, despite it being already out on the market.
Only reason there is more search interest in X720 is due to the fact that X720 leaked crap has spilled out everywhere. People are going to look at it either way even if they don't buy the console.
I myself am a bit of a Sony fan. Xbox is also in the house, but its more of a on the side game here and there of Halo than anything else. I don't enjoy fixing my Xbox 360. I hope 720 doesn't have the same problem. For me Sony looks like a better choice for next generation.
No worries, id rather fix a xbox than having to cancel my credit card and be afraid of using the new one with sony . No way im gonna do extra steps buying psn card LMAO
You think Microsoft is unhackable? You are wrong if so. There have been attempts at hacking all of the consoles, STEAM, Origin, and every other sales service that exists that could store financial information since someone discovered it was possible.
If anything a break in would make security tighter.
the next xbox will be alot mroe powerfull and will sell alot more as long as it doesnt have reliability issues like 360. Ill get them both but more people will buy xbox for sure.
Also just because there are more searches for xbox720 vs ps4 doesnt mean xbox720 will crush ps4. Justine Biebers music video has like 600,000,000 views on youtube so do you all think its better and crushed the portal 2 music videos? Guess so according to this site,lol. (I dont agree with the site)
This article is the obvious work of a dumbass, overly excited, pubertic xbox fanboy. In that case if they made a system called "porn" or "election 2012" it would have been the biggest system. Algorithm my ass.
Ok so with a full year ahead start and a console which was cheaper in price and in quality than ps3 and a easier console to develop for than ps3 couldn't crush ps3 so why would next Xbox crush ps4?
Let's not forget MS is gonna suffer some consequences for going all casual in last 2-3 years with kinect in everything. First 3-4 years at every E3 MS use to beat their chest saying we are the system for core games than when they saw wii succeeding with casual market they totally forgot about us. The core gamers who had their backs since day one
Xbox is a perfect console for FPS mainly COD and COD brand is slowing down. Halo Gears Fable/forza
What's else?
I believe if ps4 and xbox720 launch at the same day that ps4 will outsell it from day one, maybe not in the states but rest of the world
Unless MS buys epic than sooner or later epic will only make multiplatform games than gears is also lost. Epic owns the rights to Gears of war
I bet if someone forwarded this to Sony they would spill some PS4 goodness to us to assure everyone PS4 will be a BEAST! Obviously I'm joking but it would be funny if they did.
I hope they dont and keep a lid on the PS4 until one year prior to release.
I remeber when MS surprised Sony by releasing the 360 first and then Sony started over promising with the PS3 and some of those stuff did not happen.
One thing that dissapointed me was when the were demoing a game and said that when you play an exclusive game on the PS3 that no matter how many times you replay a level it would not be the same scripted play through becasue the Cell and BlU Rey tech allows for the AI to act and make diffrent descions on every play through...I have played Killzone, Uncharted and God of WAR and I can always predict what the AL is going to do or where they will go.
Not to defend Sony here, but that is a programming thing and doesn't really have anything to do with the processor involved.
Procedural generated gameplay has been around for quite a while, even used heavily in minecraft(which isn't on the PS3). The cell itself is quite equipped to handle procedural algorithms, especially when it comes to physics or AI, just often times it goes underutilized, as tried and true methods tend to be quicker and cheaper.
Any hardware manufacturer the touts it's AI capabilities should just be ignored, because it's nothing but PR, and likely won't get implemented in real world applications, although some headway is being made.
Why do you hope it does? Do you have Microsoft stock? That's the only reason you should give a ____. I'm a gamer I want both to succeed and do well so I can have more great gaming experiences. You must not be a gamer.
I too want both consoles to succeed. What I want more, however, is for MS to stop charging for live come next gen. The console that caters more to the core than casual is the one I would like to see succeed more.
The reason I believe people google the 720 more is because the rumors present the system to be the most powerful. Also, with Sony's current financial situation, most people might think that the PS4 will be gimped or that it might not even see existence. The most obvious reason though is the fact that rumors for the 720 started flowing in first.
Because judging by the main page, if Rockubot said the same thing about the PS4 he would have 66 agrees and the others would be praising/agreeing with him.
Yeah, what are you getting at? If you're implying that I'm a fanboy of any platform in particular you really don't know me. I game on every platform and like things about all of them, and I am critical of all of them when they do something wrong. Don't confuse being honestly critical with fanboy zeal. If you're never critical, you're just a sheep.
i dont see how it only really sells in america unless they give them away for free and count that as a sell which i could see m$ doing just to say they beat sony but sony has surpassed them this gen far as sales so i don't see how they stand a snowballs chance in hell now with sony releasing 1st
What a moron. Quoting Vgchartz for sales data. This ain't 2005 where Vgchartz is suppose to be reliable. Time and time again it has been proven that they over track Xbox numbers and under track PS3 numbers. A handful of times they retract their figures once official Microsoft and Sony numbers are out.
This article is talking about the popularity, based on how many times the new consoles were searched for.
"Xbox 720" was searched more than "PS4", so they have made a prediction off of these facts. I don't think it is very accurate, but we will see when they are released.
This article has NOTHING to do with the new consoles specs.
i agree and what makes this even more pointless is the information leak for the next xbox and the PS4. Leaks are not credible but forthe next xbox at least the working name has be leaked with possible direction. Of course people are going to search this more than the PS4. The leaks are for more credible
This is just data, it doesn't actually provide any real information. For that you need to know why people did those searches. Were there more rumors and leaked info for the Xbox.next that caused people to search for it more? Or is it that with the 360 being released 12-24 months earlier than the ps3 people are just more fed up with their 360 and are hoping for something new soon.
Or is it that the PS3 owners are just too busy playing games to bother searching for a yet to be announced console :)
If all is decided based on popularity then I could create my own spin on this and say that the PS4 will crush the Xbox because the PlayStation page on Facebook has around 10 million more likes than the Xbox one. It's just stupid to make a prediction like this when we know nothing about both consoles.
Yes, very well put. I'm not buying into this whole thing, as it means nothing. It depends more on who releases first, with what line-up of games and how much.
Google doesn't decide who wins the console race. Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo decide. Consumers will see what the best product is and then go with that. Google can't predict the future.
Has anyone ever thought the obvious? We almost know for sure that the next Xbox is due to release soon. There's a reason why there's only one exclusive comming out for it next year. Also the ps3 was suppose to be a 10 year console. When I do my research on electronics I research the next thing comming out. Not something we're not expecting.
The PS3 has a 10 YEAR LIFE SPAN. It does not mean that the PS4 wont't come out before the ten year life cycle. The Xbox is also suppose to have a ten year life cycle. What this basically means is that they are going to keep supporting the console after their successors are released into the market until that ten year span is reached. How many times does this have to be explained?
Anyway, the Xbox will be 8 years old next year. It is definitely time for its successor to be released. The next xbox is coming out next year along with the PS4 because Sony can't let Nintendo have the upper hand. That's how I see it.
Compare Xbox 360 to PS3 right now. You'll see that PS3 beats the XBox 360.....yet its behind in sales, especially in the US. Link to comparison http://www.google.com/trend...
Just because you search for something, it doesn't mean you are interested in buying it. I know I've searched for the Wii U lately and I have no interest in buying it.
All this proves is that there have been a lot of Xbox 720 rumors over the years(many of them bull) and that leads people to search for more of them.
Yeah but the Playstation gets this treatment more often. And i dont agree with these kinds of articles, may it be for PS3, Wii, Xbox, 3ds, or Vita. Look at the top article now and see what im talking about - "why sony may lose to the next xbox..." yada yada...
"Time and time again VG charts undertracks Playstation" I call bullshit. Sony always reports their numbers as "Shipped" at least 80% of the time. Microsoft actually tells everyone what they sold. Figure it out buddy, Microsoft is still ahead of Sony
Umm... both Sony and Microsoft tell you "shipped" numbers because that's a "sold" console to them (sold to retailer). So, they're interchangeable for both parties.
Yes. Completely crushed. Those two consoles that are neck and neck in hardware and software sales worldwide, one of them is crushing the life of the other. You know, the one that released a year ahead of the other one. I mean, crushing the heck out of it. /s
Look, I'm all for your preference in consoles, but get out of here with this annoying hyperbole and learn that while the 360 may rule the U.S., outside of it, Nintendo and Sony rule. That means they all have their strong and weak areas. In the end, they all succeed and none of them are what anyone would consider failing unless they were looking for hits in their title.
I think what people don't explain is WHY xbox as a brand did better then Sony. From where Microsoft was in the gaming market with its original xbox last generation to where it is currently with the 360 is monumental. Sure, PS3 and 360 are close in sales and both deliver great experiences, but at the end of the day, the growth and expansion of the MS console from last gen to now is stellar. I think people need to stop saying the 360 is better this gen then the ps3 and just leave it at MS did a better job overall promoting and backing their product then Sony.
***I think what people don't explain is WHY xbox as a brand did better then Sony.***
Being one of the first true competitors to Sony as a console, Microsoft took lessons learned from the PC market and the Xbox and put a ton of money into what they have no with the Xbox 360. The fact is that Sony finally had two real competitors in a market where they had none and they didn't plan ahead for it.
Regardless, the point is that they are not being crushed. Are they not dominating anymore? Yeah, but neither is Nintendo like it was before Sony came along. Time changes, businesses learn from their mistakes, make new ones, and time goes on. What I find funny is anyone predicting who will be the lead dog in the next generation considering how often it has changed hands since the 80s.
Unless you're a stockholder or employee of whatever company, it is pointless to hope the system you don't prefer get crushed. You're only a consumer these companies don't love you. They're all in it for the money.
The 360 without RROD. Only sold about 50million consoles this gen maybe less. 360 has less than 45million xbox live users. But 70million consoles hmmmmmm... You do the math.
There's definitely some truth to that but also more PS3 users have multiple accounts. Like they'll have one for just playing mp and their main one for collecting trophies.
While I do agree some people bought another console because of RROD, you are forgetting all of the repair jobs.
Also, RROD boosted the 360 sales? I find that so very hard to believe, as even my mother and sister (both not gamers) said to not buy a 360 because it gets a "red ring thingy".
The red ring is the only thing that stopped the 360 selling 80-90 million consoles by now. Think about it, it had a whole year start but isn't even in front anymore. Taht tells me something went wrong.
I know there are many people that say they've brought multiple consoles, and even if all of them were to be believed, I doubt highly that they equal anywhere close to 20 million consoles sold. I think even 1 million units sold due to RROD is a stretch.
If anything RROD could have hampered sales as it's early hardware faults got a lot of press both in and out of the gaming media. It was no small matter, which forced MS to react to it.
It's also unknown if the current numbers provided by MS sales even include replacements, so assuming it does is just speculation.
The truth is...for every person that purchased a 2nd system, there is probably another that didn't, for everyone that purchased a third, there are probably 3-4 people who said screw it and didn't purchase another.
The one that bring more great games will win for me .. xbox may get moer features but that is not what i want from a gaming system .. if sony changed their way and ms choose to release the great games then i will go to the xbox , it's that simple for me ....
According to Google, monthly searches for the PS4 versus Xbox 720 during the past 12 averaged out equally at 823,000 searches each month. So how did this site figure out that Xbox 720 was the most popular search? That's not what Google's analytics tools are showing me. So how did they get their results? It would have been nice if they had explained how they came by these numbers, and posted numbers instead of percentages.
Something else I found interesting is that by far, "PS3" crushed all the other search terms. Over the past 12 months, globally the term "PS3" was searched for 55.6 million times every month. By comparison, Xbox 360 was searched an average of 30.4 million times every month. PS4 and Xbox 720 hardly register as a blip against the current gen consoles.
Have a look at the screenshot I took of the results. Read into it what you will but as I said, I'd be interested to see how this site came up with their results. Simply checking to see how often PS4/Xbox 720 was searched globally during the past 12 months certainly doesn't back up their claim.
http://itzyinteractive.com/...
google has been putting us in information bubbles for about 3 years now, meaning your search results are different than mine. and its not just determined by your location.
google is giving you search results that have the highest likelyhood to get you to see pages with their adsense installed. personalized by your attributes and your tendancy to look at certain types of pages.
google is an information beast and its scary how much information they have on the general public just from interpolation.
so in short your google search results are provided by algorithms that are personalized by what it thinks are your interests and it never asks if you want to see outside your bubble.
Best described in its entirety here:
http://www.ted.com/talks/el...
Related video
Did you even pay attention to the screenshot? Those aren't personalized search results, those are the statistics provided by Google Analytics/AdWords.
atleast look at the screenshot
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Does that means that the article originator's results was biased by Google based on his own habits? Interesting fact!
playstation vs xbox: Xbox dominating
http://www.google.com/trend...
playstation 3 vs xbox 360: xbox again dominating
http://www.google.com/trend...
playstation 4 vs xbox 720: playstation used to dominate, but Xbox overtook (note, the next xbox is often reffered to as durango, xbox loop, xbox infinity, xbox next i.e. no clear cut like playstation 4)
http://www.google.com/trend...
@darkride66:
Your data doesn't seem right at all, because global and local search data is the same?
Also, the next Xbox has many different names, but the Playstation is pretty specific.
nukeitall's links are much better and the point about the naming of the nextbox will definitely skew results massively as it has many different names which could be searched.
look at the 360 right now, it's a TV settop box they have added 150 tv channels to it right now.
the 4 games for the 360 have all being released the rest are 3rd party games.
and in the last 6 months has been turned into a 5 to 10 years old gaming device with kencit
MS just turned windows OS into a phone/tablet OS, that's been an utter mess for MS and any company trying to sell a PC desktop/laptop/notebook etc.
The Winphone sales just isn't happening due to people not being interested.
Nokia isn't selling enough win phones to keep afloat.
Office has just been turned into a touch screen phone app for the desktop.
and people think MS will do the 720 as a console.
So I just don't see the 720 doing much other than probably be another win8 phone/tablet device OS that some people will attempt to call a console.
Maybe there was 1 extra search on the 720 searches in statics that usually means 99% of the world's population is only searching for that item/thing/product.
You are wrong.
It is nothing to do with customised results (which only AFAIK happens when you are logged in).
The data he is providing is for searches ran.
It matters not if you get websites A, B and C and the other poster gets websites D, E and F.
You _both_ would have used the same search term. That is the data here - nothing to do with how many results there were or what was in those results.
GOOGLE IS INFORMATION BEAST! IT WILL INVADE YOUR VERRRRY MINNNND....So scary people. The Beast!
Who'd have guessed that the 360 would have been such a commercial success, after the original Xbox failed to make back it's R&D budget?
Who'd have guessed that Sony would gone on to develop the best selling console of all-time (PS2), back when they were in talks with Nintendo to create CD peripherals for the N64?
No one, that's who. Google are no different. Every new generation is a lottery, some falter whilst some strike gold.
Obviously "xbox" and "xbox 360" dominate over "playstation" because very few people search for PS3 information by typing out "playstation". "xbox" gets credit for a search when "xbox 360" is searched, as well. If you wait a fair comparison, you have to compare what people actually search against. Try "ps3" instead of "playstation" or "playstation 3".
"ps3" dominates "xbox 360", just like "xbox" dominates "playstation". But "ps3" and "xbox" are almost dead even.
This isn't rocket science. You have to know what people typically type when trying to get information on those two subjects and then compare those things.
X360 -> XBX3 transition will be the same as PS1->PS2
So, in the end is going to be something like this:
XBX3 = America
Wii-U = Japan
PS4 = Europe? ... IF GT6 comes out in less than 5 years, say launch window or 2nd year after release...
Why I'm saying this? simple:
X360 "Power" = Live -> this will make people upgrade to next HW that comes with this service
"Weakness" = Japan + Places where Live service is not equal to the American one = Japan + Europe, excluding UK
Wii-U "Power" = Mario and First Parties
"Weakness" = Online Service, because it's playing catch-up with PSN which is playing catch-up with Live
PS4 "Power" = GT Brand + Uncharted + GOW + Free Online
"Weakness" = not strong market compared to the other 2, now it's catching up only with X360, but before that it was going against X360 + Wii
PSN is not the powerhouse Live is and it doesn't have the strenght to make people upgrade to the next gen system the same way Live will do for MS
PS4 will not have Backward Compatibility, meaning that ALL you Bought from the Store will not be available in your PS4, meawhile MS will make sure that your account and everything on it will be available on the XBX3
And if people think it's not an issue, BC made PS2 an easy purchase and IF the PS3 wasn't $600, it could have done the same for that console, a PS4 missing PS2+PS3 games will be as LAME as people with PSP UMDs that can't be played in the Vita...
Don't be an idiot. There is no tinfoil hat bull with what Autodidactdystopia is saying. Google is collecting data on everyone. It happens automatically. That's how google's servers work. Why do you think ads come up based upon what you recently viewed or searched?
The thing here is that google doesn't collect specific information. They don't give a damn about your personal lives. They want the overall information of what everyone is searching to apply it to trends etc. Think of it as you taking a survey that you're not aware of taking.
that was an awesome video... I have often felt that search results are filtered, but this explained it in an amazing way...
thanks..
As far as on this topic, I don't know if the results of the search on PS4 and 720 are accurate or not, -but to me it doesn't matter because I will base my decision off of what I see when they present the systems...
As I'm sure most people will do the same.. Nothing will sell the systems better then showing something amazing..
Searching for info on a system that's not even out and has an real info out to base a buying decision on, is the silliest way of telling which one will sell more...
(there is no real way to tell at this point) -Not until we actually see something.
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Reported article as lame.
response!:
lol - "try me!"
Your findings were correct, but it's in how you search. Junk in, Junk out. To properly gather data from any of Google's tools, you have to know how to use Google.
For example some people do not know that under the Local column, the results mean U.S. And global means global.
There are so many nuances to using Google's information.
This is too why so many sites fail with their SEO. They are not targeting correctly because of faulty searches.
Aside from that. Your finding are correct. But check again and filter by Video games Console or something similar.
PS4 does not always stand for Playstation 4. PS4 could be part of a serial number, book index, cart part #. The list goes on and on.
The site just provides the findings and adds commentary. Findings that were researched over a couple of weeks and graphs that depicted as accurately and as PLAINLY the results.
Honestly, I don't know many people who use the full word "playstation" for their searches anymore.
http://www.google.com/trend...
or for "Xbox360" without the gap:
http://www.google.com/trend...
I know the 2nd link is probably unrealistic, since it just comes naturally to put a gap inbetween the "x" & "3".
Kind of shows how results can be skewed.
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As for the PS4 & Xbox 720, here are the results:
http://www.google.com/trend...
I wouldn't call that a massive gap, but yeah it looks like 720 had more searches apart from 2011.
In 2005 the Xbox was a non-factor, now it has unseated the Playstation for brand recognition. The emergence of Microsoft in the console race, going from zero to hero, and Sony's fall from dominance indicate that next gen we'll see the gap between the two increase.
Not to mention Sony's troubling financial situation. Sorry, I don't care how good Uncharted 4 is, if Sony can't keep their credit rating out of the current "junk" status that this isn't a company I want to invest $500 into.
A better article would be, "Will PS4 be Sony's last console?"
In 2005 the Xbox was a non-factor, now it has unseated the Playstation for brand recognition.
Yes maybe in the states but here in Europe (except the UK) nobody cares for the Xbox. Playstation is still king in europe.
Plus people are not that stupid here in europe to buy a console that dies on you(RROD)and still buy another one, and paying 50 euro to play online when everybody else let you play for free (psn,nintendo, pc).
The only thing that sels an xbox in europe and i think every where else is the fact that it is very easy to hake like the ps2 at the time.
Plus next gen they will have more competition from valve when they release their console steam.
Yes microsoft did go from zero to hero.
the ps2 had 150 million units sold last gen with xbox around 28 million.
this gen according to vgchartz 360 has 72.3 million units while ps3 has 70.3 million units. the fact that msoft minimally tied sony let alone is beating them in sales as of now is extraordinary. dont even mention nintendo- they have 100 million units sold with the wii- very impressive considering gamecube sold only around 20 million last gen.
ultimately in sales i dont see ps3 or xbox 360 having a major advantage over one another- ill call it a tie, but to be 100% honest xbox improved- nintendo improved- sony did not improve coming from the persective ps2 has 150 million units sold. the ps3 is dissapointing terms of success when compared to ps2.
im sorry but its the truth- sony no longer dominates the market like it once did. it has great exclusives and games- but in terms of business they have to do better
****this gen according to vgchartz 360 has 72.3 million units while ps3 has 70.3 million units.****
you lost every credibility when talked about numbers from vgchartes
from both sony and ms :.
PS3 hits 70m to go neck-and-neck with Xbox 360
http://www.computerandvideo...
by vgchartes logic (if they had any)
since they tied in sales
ps3 didn't sell one single console
while xbox sold 3m world wide ?!lol WTF is going on in that site
if there is any one can believe vgchartes ... then he's just a tool or dumb
should i trust Vgchartes
or
should i trust the owners them self ?!
hmmmmmmmm... tough question;)
Lets wait and see the "end of life" sales figures of the PS3 against the Xbox360 (wink, wink). Going by the PS2 strength (which is still going) you are in for even an bigger surprise son.
Which MS calls a sale, which in the real world isn't a sale at all.
at best MS probably only has around 40 to 50 million consoles at people's home around the world the rest will be in dumps and warehouses waiting for something to be done to them.
MS just had it's first reported non profit this year, in other words MS in 2012 didn't make any money and lost money overall for the year.
In Australia the stores used to push the 360 now they push the ps3 because it's the only console that is selling and has plenty of new games coming out all the time.
In fact the PS3 part is the largest out of all the sections in the eb game stores.
"In 2005 the Xbox was a non-factor, now it has unseated the Playstation for brand recognition. The emergence of Microsoft in the console race, going from zero to hero, and Sony's fall from dominance indicate that next gen we'll see the gap between the two increase."
I love this, you just let it slip your mind about market share is not just "one system" vs ONE SYSTEM BEING THE ONLY INDICATION OF MARKET SHARE!
Go into any store, and lets see who has more product @ retail to sell, both Nintendo and Sony have more than one freaking game system in the retail channel. but market share is only counted for a one console market share is only the market share that counts? could it be because Microsoft only has, ummm lets see the one freaking console?
LMAO...
the market share is thus
Nintendo is 1st with 7 systems in the retail chain.
Sony is 2nd with 4 systems in the retail chain
Microsoft has 1 system in the retail chain.
yea Microsoft's one single system "excluding all other 3 more Playstation systems aside from the PS3 has made sure Microsoft has more Market share in the market if you exclude all other playstation systems in the retail chan and choose to ignore and not count them in total to determine platforms market share!
here is an idea lets just discount Nintendo's 6 other systems also and only count the Wii being the only system = that determines Nintendo's Market share vs's Microsoft's market share.
like lets discount all other Android Handset's except for Samsung's to determine Microsoft's OS market share for Windows Phone in smartphones!
LMAO get out of here with that claim, Microsoft's unseated Sony for market share, hey Microsoft have a dedicated game handheld ?
that would be a NO!
look no one could say that Microsoft's xbox360 has not increased the xbox "platform" in the market or how Microsoft has grown the platforms market share, but do not sit there and say they unseated a platforms marketshare with only one system when you are not counting all the other systems that a platform holder offer's in the same market. Microsoft will have a 2nd system on the market when the next xbox releases, the thing to wonder about is how well will Microsoft be able to support yet another xbox on the retail chain with the xbox360 also being in the chain, and if the install base will keep supporting the xbox360, or with those very same people move on and not really buy xbox360 software because its not the newest uptodate xbox?
that's a question Sony and Nintendo both have already answered already Microsoft has yet to answer that in this market.
The original Xbox was barely a blip in the 6th generation of consoles, while the PS2 and PS1 were kings. This gen, Microsoft has destroyed the dominance of the Playstation brand (Sony did it to themselves, arguably).
Let's face the facts: the Xbox 360 finishing tied with PS3 at the end of this gen would be a MASSIVE victory for Microsoft. Hell, if the PS3 sells only 10 million more consoles, that would still be a victory for Microsoft.
Going into next gen, Microsoft will be looking to continue what they did with the Xbox 360 while Sony will be looking to forget about the PS3, find out where they went wrong, and look back at their successes with PS1 and PS2.
Then they released the PS3, and Nintendo the Wii... and Wii has actually sold more than 30 million more units than the PS3, and ALWAYS at a profit.
Understand this: the console market is incredibly turbulent, and there's absolutely no way to predict what will happen on the next generation of consoles, less so if we don't even know anything about what Sony and Microsoft will do for their next machines in terms of power, pricing, games, and marketing strategy. Heck, it's too early to try and make predictions even about the Wii U, despite it being already out on the market.
I wound't expect any better from you
:P
I myself am a bit of a Sony fan. Xbox is also in the house, but its more of a on the side game here and there of Halo than anything else. I don't enjoy fixing my Xbox 360. I hope 720 doesn't have the same problem. For me Sony looks like a better choice for next generation.
If anything a break in would make security tighter.
Basic gamer needs imo.
Power won't be the major factor between 720 & ps4. If MS keeps relying on third party no one will squeeze out all the power.
They have some of the top nerds.
Sony even make great pc games like planetside 2 and I am enjoying it. That is one good games company imo.
Worldwide if they can catch up to MS after being a year behind they will be fine with a good head to head launch.
That is a lot of people to throw another halo at.
http://www.cinemablend.com/...
meh.
ps3 was the best of its generation and so will the ps4 ¡¡¡
Let's not forget MS is gonna suffer some consequences for going all casual in last 2-3 years with kinect in everything. First 3-4 years at every E3 MS use to beat their chest saying we are the system for core games than when they saw wii succeeding with casual market they totally forgot about us. The core gamers who had their backs since day one
Xbox is a perfect console for FPS mainly COD and COD brand is slowing down.
Halo
Gears
Fable/forza
What's else?
I believe if ps4 and xbox720 launch at the same day that ps4 will outsell it from day one, maybe not in the states but rest of the world
Unless MS buys epic than sooner or later epic will only make multiplatform games than gears is also lost. Epic owns the rights to Gears of war
I remeber when MS surprised Sony by releasing the 360 first and then Sony started over promising with the PS3 and some of those stuff did not happen.
One thing that dissapointed me was when the were demoing a game and said that when you play an exclusive game on the PS3 that no matter how many times you replay a level it would not be the same scripted play through becasue the Cell and BlU Rey tech allows for the AI to act and make diffrent descions on every play through...I have played Killzone, Uncharted and God of WAR and I can always predict what the AL is going to do or where they will go.
Procedural generated gameplay has been around for quite a while, even used heavily in minecraft(which isn't on the PS3). The cell itself is quite equipped to handle procedural algorithms, especially when it comes to physics or AI, just often times it goes underutilized, as tried and true methods tend to be quicker and cheaper.
Any hardware manufacturer the touts it's AI capabilities should just be ignored, because it's nothing but PR, and likely won't get implemented in real world applications, although some headway is being made.
(I'll probably buy both)
The reason I believe people google the 720 more is because the rumors present the system to be the most powerful. Also, with Sony's current financial situation, most people might think that the PS4 will be gimped or that it might not even see existence. The most obvious reason though is the fact that rumors for the 720 started flowing in first.
How is that ironic?
Because judging by the main page, if Rockubot said the same thing about the PS4 he would have 66 agrees and the others would be praising/agreeing with him.
Such a circle jerk on here.
Yeah, what are you getting at? If you're implying that I'm a fanboy of any platform in particular you really don't know me. I game on every platform and like things about all of them, and I am critical of all of them when they do something wrong. Don't confuse being honestly critical with fanboy zeal. If you're never critical, you're just a sheep.
pretty ignorant of you to spout false info without backing up your claim.
"Xbox 720" was searched more than "PS4", so they have made a prediction off of these facts. I don't think it is very accurate, but we will see when they are released.
This article has NOTHING to do with the new consoles specs.
Now let's see who actually read the article and who's a nervous wreck just seeing those words.
Or is it that the PS3 owners are just too busy playing games to bother searching for a yet to be announced console :)
Yes, very well put.
I'm not buying into this whole thing, as it means nothing. It depends more on who releases first, with what line-up of games and how much.
Searching just, "Playstation" is ranked #6 world wide for 2012.
I predict the 720 will crush PS4.
Now I sit and wait.
HAIL GOOGLE OVERLORD!
Anyway, the Xbox will be 8 years old next year. It is definitely time for its successor to be released. The next xbox is coming out next year along with the PS4 because Sony can't let Nintendo have the upper hand. That's how I see it.
Just because you search for something, it doesn't mean you are interested in buying it. I know I've searched for the Wii U lately and I have no interest in buying it.
All this proves is that there have been a lot of Xbox 720 rumors over the years(many of them bull) and that leads people to search for more of them.
"PS4 doomed before it is even unveiiled"
"Why the PS4 does not stand a chance against the Xbox 720"
"Next Playstation is a sinking ship"
/s
Ridiculous.
Yesterday the top article was "The WiiU is the worst console ever"
3DS got loads of hate too when it first came out
Look at the top article now and see what im talking about - "why sony may lose to the next xbox..." yada yada...
Look, I'm all for your preference in consoles, but get out of here with this annoying hyperbole and learn that while the 360 may rule the U.S., outside of it, Nintendo and Sony rule. That means they all have their strong and weak areas. In the end, they all succeed and none of them are what anyone would consider failing unless they were looking for hits in their title.
let him think what ever help him sleep the night
Being one of the first true competitors to Sony as a console, Microsoft took lessons learned from the PC market and the Xbox and put a ton of money into what they have no with the Xbox 360. The fact is that Sony finally had two real competitors in a market where they had none and they didn't plan ahead for it.
Regardless, the point is that they are not being crushed. Are they not dominating anymore? Yeah, but neither is Nintendo like it was before Sony came along. Time changes, businesses learn from their mistakes, make new ones, and time goes on. What I find funny is anyone predicting who will be the lead dog in the next generation considering how often it has changed hands since the 80s.
While I do agree some people bought another console because of RROD, you are forgetting all of the repair jobs.
Also, RROD boosted the 360 sales? I find that so very hard to believe, as even my mother and sister (both not gamers) said to not buy a 360 because it gets a "red ring thingy".
The red ring is the only thing that stopped the 360 selling 80-90 million consoles by now. Think about it, it had a whole year start but isn't even in front anymore. Taht tells me something went wrong.
If anything RROD could have hampered sales as it's early hardware faults got a lot of press both in and out of the gaming media. It was no small matter, which forced MS to react to it.
It's also unknown if the current numbers provided by MS sales even include replacements, so assuming it does is just speculation.
The truth is...for every person that purchased a 2nd system, there is probably another that didn't, for everyone that purchased a third, there are probably 3-4 people who said screw it and didn't purchase another.
xbox may get moer features but that is not what i want from a gaming system ..
if sony changed their way and ms choose to release the great games then i will go to the xbox , it's that simple for me ....