If the title followed the trend of hit grabbing headlines with no substance, then yes, of course.
For a guy with Logic in his name, you don't use it very much.Or were you just saying anything so you could reply to me and have your comments at the top? I know how much you crave the attention.
no one has a personal vendetta Logic, it's just no one takes you seriously because of your post history. You're one of the biggest jokes on this site it seems.
On topic:
People with obvious superpowers to see into the future should be using that power in meaningful ways, not to scope out future releases in the video game industry. :(
This article is premature at best. The only reason I can think of for it to be a disappointment is because of all the hype and that the bar is set too high. That happens with a lot of games. Still, I am very excited to see how this game turns out and everything I have seen looks excellent so far.
logic, i hope you know there are alot of brown nosing articles in here too, they get the same treatment due to the fact the articles are poorly written or have little to no factual information, so its not one sided, its both spectrums that get the troll article treatment.
Even if The Last of Us got an accumulative group of negative scores from most websites, ND fans would still try to spin the game as being the best thing on the planet and shoving it down everyone's throat who visits n4g. I honestly don't see what all the fuss is about concerning the game anyway.
Well knowing naughty dog which one is more likely?? They will not fail. Especially since sony gives them all the time they need no rush.
The idea for a single player survival game in to today's console industry? Good job to sony for funding this. Beyond is next.
No one can say anything simple because of the fact that it is a new IP at the end of a generation. Who else is doing this? oh yeah there is a new halo right?
Yep I agree with everyone else replying to logic. The whole website thinks this dudes a tool and how he has 5 bubbles is beyond me. He probably created a thousand N4G user names and logged each one in to vote his bubble count up. Dudes a sad loner with nothing better to do
***I wonder if you would have complained if the article was titled, "The Last of Us Will Exceed the Hype"***
Not likely, but then again that's not the point of such a title. Don't play devil's advocate too much that you know that titles like the one above are done solely to get hits and rile people up with negativity, which doesn't happen as much with positivity.
The real question is if it would get as much recognition if it was titled "Why The Last of Us Might Not Meet Expectations" which would be more appropriate.
You see Logic if he would have complained that the title was:
"The Last of Us Will Exceed the Hype"
Then he would have been marked as a troll and de-bubbled. This site and its commenters reward people who bash negative articles pertaining to their favorite consoles under attack.
It's rare to get bubbled up in a positive article. That's why the negative articles gets all the heat and action. And yet you can find the same people in each of them posting the same "Another doom and gloom article" over and over again.
I'm not surprised you agree with Logic, Grimm. How is "The Last of Us Will Exceed the Hype" hit grabbing or meant to get a rise out people?
It's not, so of course it would be likely he'd be marked down for trolling if he complained about that particular title. But if the title were something like "Why The Last of Us Will Make All Other Survival Games Look Mediocre" then you guys have point, but then again neither of you'd be asking such questions or making such claims if this were a positive article.
Interesting, how am I agreeing with logic? I just stated exactly what would happen if he would have complained about an article praising a game instead of downing it.
"so of course it would be likely he'd be marked down for trolling if he complained about that particular title"
And that is exactly what I said. I don't see where you are going with this.
"Ah, yes.This site again.New to N4G with only 14 submissions, each one more hit grabbing then the last."
Logic says:
"I wonder if you would have complained if the article was titled, "The Last of Us Will Exceed the Hype""
You say:
"You see Logic if he would have complained that the title was:
"The Last of Us Will Exceed the Hype"
Then he would have been marked as a troll and de-bubbled."
I assume that you are implying that him being marked down in that instance is a bag thing or that he shouldn't be marked down. I'm saying that he should or deserves to be marked down in that instance because the title wouldn't be "hit grabbing." If that isn't what you are implying then what is the point that you are trying make?
"I'm Andrew, and I'm a Canadian. I eat beaver tails (Although that's more of a local thing), I play hockey, and I love the snow. Despite my love of the outdoors, I'm often in my basement, playing my video games. I'm also a brony."
Clearly a creditable journalist. /s
P.S. Not knocking Canada here, just the writer himself.
Actually i really don't get why this game is so hyped ?! I don't say it's bad or don't deserve it, i'm simply saying that despite the short gameplay video we still can't judge and say it's going to be awesome and things like that or is it just because it's an " Exclusive " ?!!. We need to wait and see whether it really delivers. I for one haven't seen any thing to impress me yet.
Gaming journalism is directed at the gaming audience in a manner to get hits. Gamers talk more about negative articles like this than they do positive articles that focus on gaming as a whole rather than negativity towards specific games. Therefore, gamers have lead gaming journalists to create more hit seeking articles that they click on the most rather than stories that we actually say we want to read which tend to get lost in the overflow of negative, fanboyish articles.
The desire by the gaming community to be overly dramatic about their gaming has turned gaming journalism into the equivalent of a soap opera and not credible news.
You guys are too sensitive. I don't agree with the article either, but can we stop acting like these authors are microwaving kittens every time they write articles that aren't cheerleading for Sony?
This is a brand new IP. I think we should play the game the developers (ESPECIALLY with Naughty Dogs track record) have created for us. After completing the game in its entirety, the devs should be given positive criticism for a possible sequel or successor. The one aspect of this game that's been touted as innovative has been the A.I. If you are so prejudice to the devs game now before even playing the game, you are destined to be disappointed for one thing or another. No offense to you personally otherZinc, but many websites and gaming reviewers have your same basic mindset which, imo, is a plague for the gaming industry. Let each game stand on its own merits then judge objectively, unbiasely, & without prejudice AFTER completing it.
That was lol agree with below go make a game for everyone that shows us how the buyer wants to play it.
Coop for the most part ruins deep story. Either your buddy is always talking laughing doing something else or they just don't want to watch the story and beg to x thru cut scenes multiple issues with making a deep story grab a hold of 2 players.
You guys disagree but show me more then 1 game that a deep story line was laid out with co-op. Then go and look at what some devs say about it they say exactly what i do. I literately played every Co-Op game on 360/ps3 their is without question (ones made for people over 12)
the thing is BL2 is coop story but its not a deep thought provoking or atmospheric thought provoking dialogue so its works.
Didnt bother reading the article. There's nothing anyone can tell me that would make me think this game will be disappointing. Absolutely nothing. If it made Hideo Kojima say "HOLY SHIT. THIS GAME IS REVOLUTIONARY!" That's good enough for me.
"Ah, yes.This site again.New to N4G with only 14 submissions, each one more hit grabbing then the last."
You're right, the title of the article is hit grabbing but if you read the article (if you haven't already!) you'll see he actually praises the game and says that he will be buying it. The reason he says it's going to be disappointing is that because the game will be so detailed it could mean a very short campaign, and then the multiplayer side of things mightn't be great. He might be right, but on the other hand, this game is being made by the creators of Uncharted 2, a game jam packed with detail while still retaining a decent length for the campaign.
So yeah, I agree with you on the whole hit grabbing thing, he could have titled it "Why the length of The Last Of Us Will Disappoint" but then again he has no proof of a short campaign! Seems to me that these sort of articles should only be written AFTER the game is released and we know whether or not the campaign is actually short.
Stopped reading after disappointing. Hm remember when everyone and still thinks uncharted was a tomb raider clone and even today uncharted is the.most inspiring game abd highest rated game on ps3 well above most current gen games I think gta score tops it off and we all know gta was over rated
Another one of those made for N4G sites? Interesting. Guess these guys got sick of commenting their silly comments and decided to write articles instead.
You'd get more agrees than disagrees if you'd edit your post. At first I read it exactly how it looked, it was a bit confusing with no punctuation, and looks like you're saying you doubt the Uncharted series was amazing yet this looks special.
I know what you're trying to say, though. It just sounds completely different without the punctuation.
"I somehow doubt that. The Umcharted series was amazing. This is going to be somewhat special."
Well there's a headline that's bound to get some attention.
Jury is still out as far as I'm concerned. Don't really see how you can put it on a pedestal or dismiss it with the limited knowledge and complete lack of experience we all have with it. Understand the source of the hype, ND at the helm with a proven track record and a rather original, largely single player focussed game.
Here is one good and maybe the biggest reason of them all why this game will be one of the best. It is being made by Naughty Dog and being specifically developed by the separate developing team on Naughty Dog that made Uncharted 2.
Naughty Dog has 2 developing teams. One made Uncharted Drakes fortune, the one making this game made Uncharted 2, and the one's who made Uncharted Drakes fortune made Uncharted 3.
And we know which uncharted from the series is the best. And which exclusive won the most GOTY awards of all time.
He is probably a FPS fan and thus wont be able to handle anything different, I saw many of these articles with Heavy Rain, It wasnt deemed a good game by some because it was done by a dev who was thinking outside the box and not a COD sheep, but I am not bothered by this drivel because ND has proven them selves time and time again.
"All in all, I’m not saying it will be a bad game, I will certainly shell out the sixty bucks it will cost to buy, and I’ll play it, and I’ll in enjoy it."
And the title is why this game will be disappointing but yet you'll no doubt buy it and enjoy it?
The articles not that bad. He's reasons are legitimate, currently unfounded but still, possible criticisms. Personally 10+ hours is long enough for me to be satisfied and I rarely play online. I'm fairly sure this will be a GOTY contender in my book.
How can he have legitimate reasons if they're unfounded? Since when do we judge games on possible criticisms, especially ones with NO basis in ANYTHING?
If this were Call of Duty, there'd at least be a track record to go on to support his negativity. But Naughty Dog's track record is extremely positive, and nothing seen of the game points to any of the criticisms he gave.
The article is horrible. It was written entirely based on speculation, most of which was the exact opposite of whatever he brought up as the reason FOR that speculation.
This is exactly the kind of article that makes people not trust gaming journalism.
Anyone that has bothered to read the article will see that this guy only has 2 very weak reasons (guesses more like) as to why he thinks the game will be disappointing.
He thinks the game will be too short and that the 'unique multiplayer' won't be very good. This guy has no idea whatsoever about either of these elements. He just thinks that a strong storyline means we'll have a shorter game and that the multiplayer will be like Uncharted.
He then makes another totally random guess and says you will mostly fight human players and not enough infected and deformed enemies.
"This just sounds like a recipe for disaster, as I am reminded of Uncharted 3: Drakes Deception. I regard Uncharted‘s online play as a crash and burn"
LMAO. If a game with a 92/100 meta avg and an online community thriving enough that they added 50 additional online trophies http://ca.ign.com/articles/... for it, if that reminds you of a disaster, you need help.
So he is basically saying that The Last Of Us will be disappointing because it will be too short. Not only he assumes the game will be short, but also imply that a short game means a bad game.
As far as I remember, Gears of War is barely 6-hours long and still people loved it, just like was Uncharted or any Call of Duty solo campaign (disregard haters' opinion). Portal can be finished in under 3 hours, with no multiplayer but it's still an awesome game.
Not only a short game doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad game, but also we don't have ANY information about The Last Of Us length, replay value or modes.
Plus, Dishonored is far from being short. If you run and gun straight to the objectives, sure you will find the game short. But if you sneak, don't kill anyone, use your powers wisely and explore to find side quests and upgrades, then the game is definitely quite lengthy and for from being a disappointment.
For a guy with Logic in his name, you don't use it very much.Or were you just saying anything so you could reply to me and have your comments at the top? I know how much you crave the attention.
this is journalism at its most infantile
Gimme me a break.
Random internet dude: My awesome girl just bought me Far Cry 3 with her hard earned money.
Logic: Does your awesome girl make her hard earned money being an overweight one-legged prostitute?
Random internet dude: WTF? What are you trying to say you @$**#*@!!!
Logic: Woah, personal vendetta much? I was simply just curious as to how she was gainfully employed.
LMAO - that was the most hilariously shit attempt at digging yourself out of a hole i have ever seen.
"i was simply just curious" - yes, im sure you were just sitting there stroking your wisened beard while contemplating peoples opinions on an article.
On topic:
People with obvious superpowers to see into the future should be using that power in meaningful ways, not to scope out future releases in the video game industry. :(
Tell us what happens on Dec. 21st!!!
"The Last of Us Will Exceed the Hype"
Well knowing naughty dog which one is more likely?? They will not fail. Especially since sony gives them all the time they need no rush.
The idea for a single player survival game in to today's console industry? Good job to sony for funding this. Beyond is next.
No one can say anything simple because of the fact that it is a new IP at the end of a generation. Who else is doing this? oh yeah there is a new halo right?
Getting my moneys worth.. ps4 can't wait.
Not likely, but then again that's not the point of such a title. Don't play devil's advocate too much that you know that titles like the one above are done solely to get hits and rile people up with negativity, which doesn't happen as much with positivity.
The real question is if it would get as much recognition if it was titled "Why The Last of Us Might Not Meet Expectations" which would be more appropriate.
You see Logic if he would have complained that the title was:
"The Last of Us Will Exceed the Hype"
Then he would have been marked as a troll and de-bubbled. This site and its commenters reward people who bash negative articles pertaining to their favorite consoles under attack.
It's rare to get bubbled up in a positive article. That's why the negative articles gets all the heat and action. And yet you can find the same people in each of them posting the same "Another doom and gloom article" over and over again.
I'm not surprised you agree with Logic, Grimm.
How is "The Last of Us Will Exceed the Hype" hit grabbing or meant to get a rise out people?
It's not, so of course it would be likely he'd be marked down for trolling if he complained about that particular title. But if the title were something like "Why The Last of Us Will Make All Other Survival Games Look Mediocre" then you guys have point, but then again neither of you'd be asking such questions or making such claims if this were a positive article.
"I'm not surprised you agree with Logic, Grimm."
Interesting, how am I agreeing with logic? I just stated exactly what would happen if he would have complained about an article praising a game instead of downing it.
"so of course it would be likely he'd be marked down for trolling if he complained about that particular title"
And that is exactly what I said.
I don't see where you are going with this.
Ryan says:
"Ah, yes.This site again.New to N4G with only 14 submissions, each one more hit grabbing then the last."
Logic says:
"I wonder if you would have complained if the article was titled, "The Last of Us Will Exceed the Hype""
You say:
"You see Logic if he would have complained that the title was:
"The Last of Us Will Exceed the Hype"
Then he would have been marked as a troll and de-bubbled."
I assume that you are implying that him being marked down in that instance is a bag thing or that he shouldn't be marked down. I'm saying that he should or deserves to be marked down in that instance because the title wouldn't be "hit grabbing." If that isn't what you are implying then what is the point that you are trying make?
If the article wasn't bashing The Last of Us, I'm sure no one would have bothered with it.
Dude tell me your secret.
OT awesome article.Well written and well thought out.very sublime title.
Honestly speaking.. like seriously.
He said the story will be short because of the amount of detail.
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Like seriosuly how do you come to that conclusion....Why did that even deserve to be an article .. im just..
"I'm Andrew, and I'm a Canadian. I eat beaver tails (Although that's more of a local thing), I play hockey, and I love the snow. Despite my love of the outdoors, I'm often in my basement, playing my video games. I'm also a brony."
Clearly a creditable journalist. /s
P.S. Not knocking Canada here, just the writer himself.
Gamers are ruining this industry.
3>2>1> And here starts storm of disagrees....
Fixed the headline for you...
"Gamers are ruining this industry."
really
really
Gaming journalism is directed at the gaming audience in a manner to get hits. Gamers talk more about negative articles like this than they do positive articles that focus on gaming as a whole rather than negativity towards specific games. Therefore, gamers have lead gaming journalists to create more hit seeking articles that they click on the most rather than stories that we actually say we want to read which tend to get lost in the overflow of negative, fanboyish articles.
The desire by the gaming community to be overly dramatic about their gaming has turned gaming journalism into the equivalent of a soap opera and not credible news.
his opinion or argument has no factual basis or reference at all.
don't waste your precious time on this one, peeps
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The reason it will be disappointing is:
The Lack of Campaign Co-op!
They give a companion to us that we cant control, period!
Let us play the game the way the buyer wants to play the game.
The reason it will be disappointing is:
The Lack of Campaign Co-op!
They give a companion to us that we cant control, period!
Let us play the game the way the buyer wants to play the game."
Go make the game you want and give it a rest.
That was lol agree with below go make a game for everyone that shows us how the buyer wants to play it.
Coop for the most part ruins deep story. Either your buddy is always talking laughing doing something else or they just don't want to watch the story and beg to x thru cut scenes multiple issues with making a deep story grab a hold of 2 players.
the thing is BL2 is coop story but its not a deep thought provoking or atmospheric thought provoking dialogue so its works.
There's nothing anyone can tell me that would make me think this game will be disappointing. Absolutely nothing. If it made Hideo Kojima say "HOLY SHIT. THIS GAME IS REVOLUTIONARY!" That's good enough for me.
You're right, the title of the article is hit grabbing but if you read the article (if you haven't already!) you'll see he actually praises the game and says that he will be buying it. The reason he says it's going to be disappointing is that because the game will be so detailed it could mean a very short campaign, and then the multiplayer side of things mightn't be great. He might be right, but on the other hand, this game is being made by the creators of Uncharted 2, a game jam packed with detail while still retaining a decent length for the campaign.
So yeah, I agree with you on the whole hit grabbing thing, he could have titled it "Why the length of The Last Of Us Will Disappoint" but then again he has no proof of a short campaign! Seems to me that these sort of articles should only be written AFTER the game is released and we know whether or not the campaign is actually short.
Not bad.
I know what you're trying to say, though. It just sounds completely different without the punctuation.
"I somehow doubt that. The Umcharted series was amazing. This is going to be somewhat special."
I agreed with you though.
Jury is still out as far as I'm concerned. Don't really see how you can put it on a pedestal or dismiss it with the limited knowledge and complete lack of experience we all have with it. Understand the source of the hype, ND at the helm with a proven track record and a rather original, largely single player focussed game.
Naughty Dog has 2 developing teams. One made Uncharted Drakes fortune, the one making this game made Uncharted 2, and the one's who made Uncharted Drakes fortune made Uncharted 3.
And we know which uncharted from the series is the best. And which exclusive won the most GOTY awards of all time.
This isn't going to end well. Especially with a headline like that. Read the article, not much. Now if you'll excuse me, I think my popcorn is done.
And the title is why this game will be disappointing but yet you'll no doubt buy it and enjoy it?
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If this were Call of Duty, there'd at least be a track record to go on to support his negativity. But Naughty Dog's track record is extremely positive, and nothing seen of the game points to any of the criticisms he gave.
The article is horrible. It was written entirely based on speculation, most of which was the exact opposite of whatever he brought up as the reason FOR that speculation.
This is exactly the kind of article that makes people not trust gaming journalism.
Anyone that has bothered to read the article will see that this guy only has 2 very weak reasons (guesses more like) as to why he thinks the game will be disappointing.
He thinks the game will be too short and that the 'unique multiplayer' won't be very good. This guy has no idea whatsoever about either of these elements. He just thinks that a strong storyline means we'll have a shorter game and that the multiplayer will be like Uncharted.
He then makes another totally random guess and says you will mostly fight human players and not enough infected and deformed enemies.
This bloke doesn't have a clue.
LMAO. If a game with a 92/100 meta avg and an online community thriving enough that they added 50 additional online trophies http://ca.ign.com/articles/... for it, if that reminds you of a disaster, you need help.
Bring it on!!!
As far as I remember, Gears of War is barely 6-hours long and still people loved it, just like was Uncharted or any Call of Duty solo campaign (disregard haters' opinion). Portal can be finished in under 3 hours, with no multiplayer but it's still an awesome game.
Not only a short game doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad game, but also we don't have ANY information about The Last Of Us length, replay value or modes.
Plus, Dishonored is far from being short. If you run and gun straight to the objectives, sure you will find the game short. But if you sneak, don't kill anyone, use your powers wisely and explore to find side quests and upgrades, then the game is definitely quite lengthy and for from being a disappointment.
I don't think Andrew realises that short games can be also be great games.