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Sony Wants to Push Nintendo Out of the Console Business

Gaming Illustrated - Without question, Nintendo is one of the most successful gaming companies ever. With the next generation of gaming right around the corner, Nintendo has taken the first leap with its upcoming console, the Wii U. However, is this Nintendo’s attempt at the next generation or is it an attempt to catch up with Sony and Microsoft before the REAL next-gen gaming experience becomes available? While there is much talk about the Wii not matching up in comparison to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, Nintendo’s Wii was the only one of the three consoles that saw an early profit; Microsoft and Sony haven’t seen console profits until recently. Even with the Wii’s success, mostly due to its family orientation and Nintendo loyalists, Nintendo felt it was time to release a new console, not only earlier than its two competitors, but also at a price that they acknowledge is lower than the cost of development.

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-Mezzo-4187d ago (Edited 4187d ago )

Interesting.
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@wishingW3L -- The writer's point of view, that was the interesting part.

Abash4187d ago

Sony only cares about becoming profitable, they are fine with the other consoles existing and even said it is good for the game industry

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4187d ago (Edited 4187d ago )

can't wait for ps4! What naughty dog will do with new hardware oh my.

zebramocha4187d ago

@wishing you're wrong,the ds1 was based of playstation analog joystick announces in japan 1995,most don't realize that the ds1 rumble differed from nintendo controller in that, it was built in to the controllers an the rumble functions was like a two stage rumble for Sony and the difference in time was like 6-8 mounths from from nintedos controller and ds1.

SegataShanshiro4186d ago

Yeah Sony number one and whatever....watch them release their console at the end AGAIN! And act like it wasn't their fault....they already said it would be a disaster if they were the last ones again with their ps4
PS: and Sony fanboys act like they don't care about the SKYRIM dlc lololololololik

fabod864186d ago (Edited 4186d ago )

@deku-johnny
and if it wasn't for Sony videogames wouldn't have been so mainstream, so?

miyamoto4186d ago

"Sony Wants to Push Nintendo Out of the Console Business"

Blasphemy!

If Sony wanted to do this they could have done this a long time ago.

Sony left Mario, Pokemon, Kirby, Zelda, Metroid with no competition since PS1.

Sony's market has been the mature gamers not the kids.

Their creed has been "Videogames Are Not Children's Toys Only." since PSOne. PlayStation single handedly transformed video games from a child's plaything to legit adult entertainment in the 1990s'.

I don't see that changing anytime soon.

lastdual4186d ago

@axelstone

To say Sony could have created a brand as huge as Mario, but just chose to not bother making those billions because of a "games aren't just for kids" CREED is insane.

Sony knew Nintendo had the family market tied up. They aimed for an older audience because it was easier to compete in that space.

Creating a brand with massive global appeal like Mario is hard, even with a ton of cash to spend. There is no magic bullet to accomplish such a feat, or else every company out there would be doing it. Imagining that "Sony could do it if they felt like it" is idealistic to say the least.

mewhy324186d ago

There's no way for Sony nor Microsoft to push Nintendo out of the market. It's just not going to happen. I mean what would the gaming would be with Mario, Zelda, etc. Not going to happen.

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wishingW3L4187d ago (Edited 4187d ago )

read the whole thing, what part was supposed to be interesting?

So yeah, Sony copying Nintendo means that they want to derail it... How is this interesting? Back in the 90's Sony copied the rumble and analog sticks too so what is the difference now? Has anything changed?

jujubee884187d ago

We all know Sony was just playing their games.

Nintendo was kinda flaunting it anyways. What Sony suppose to do? Just be depressed and sit there?

SONY IS IT"S OWN WOMAN AND WILL DO WHAT IT WANTS WHEN IT WANTS!

Look, Nintendo and Sony are meant to be together. Stop trying to spread rumors and go back to your failed blog and your dumb girlfriends.

#4realz

Qrphe4187d ago

Rumble yes, analog stick, no.
Dual-sticks was revolutionary however.

cee7734187d ago (Edited 4187d ago )

Sony did not copy analog control from Nintendo in no way shape or form. ps1 was the first console with dual analog, ps2 the first console with pressure sensitive buttons,PSP first handheld with analog, psvita first handheld to dual analog

Do your research n64 controller is all digital even the stick.

This article is full of crap Sega was it own demise releasing all those console's and addons Sega CD ,32x, game gear, saturn , Dreamcast even lacked a right analog lol. too many flops will kill a company you know Sega lost the trust and loyalty of gamers and consumers alike this was their demise

Deku-Johnny4186d ago

To be fair Playstation wouldn't exist at all if it wasn't for Nintendo.

tacosRcool4186d ago

Wow, looks like the tables are turned.
Did you know that the PSP and the PS3 have this wonderful feature called remote play?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Looks like Nintendo copied that to me

AWBrawler4186d ago

remote play is just a fancy name for what Nintendo has been doing since the N64 days with Pokemon Stadium

miyamoto4186d ago (Edited 4186d ago )

LOLz!

Copying?

Take your complaints to Nintendo.

Its them who commissioned Sony to make the Nintendo Play Station CD-ROM System in the first place. So it's natural Nintendo licensed everything SNES to make the Play Station - logic.

You should thank Nintendo for helping create the Sony PlayStation, bub.

Sony and Nintendo are part of a struggling bunch of Japanese company's threatened by American giants like Microsoft, Apple & Google. They are the ones who "Wants to Push Nintendo & Sony Out of the Console Business" specially Microsoft.

Remember "The PS2 was outselling PCs" scenario back in early 2000 M$ did not take that lightly and was green with jealousy & envy hence a green colored console the Xbox.

I say don't let the Americans kill the Japanese companies. Buy Japanese products.

MaxXAttaxX4186d ago (Edited 4186d ago )

Analog sticks have been around for years BEFORE the Nintendo 64. The Neo Geo CD and Vectrex, are a few of them.

The PS1's Dual Analog Controller was released in 1997 with BUILT-IN rumble, before the DualShock which had two stage dual rumble motors.
Nintendo released the rumble pack add-on the same month Sony released the PS1's Dual Analog Controller.

What about Nintendo and others "copying" PlayStation's controller grips, quad shoulder buttons, clickable sticks, pressure sensitive buttons?
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@AWBrawler,

LOL so you're saying you could play N64 games on your GameBoy from across the country?
GTFO

AWBrawler4186d ago

@Nathan

I didn't say its the exact same thing, but the idea of all that was started by Nintendo, and yes I could play pokemon anywhere then come back home and battle with those very pokemon on the big screen.

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morkendo234186d ago (Edited 4186d ago )

Sony Wants to Push Nintendo Out of the Console Business

good luck trying to convince Nintendo loyal fans that.

shame journalist write such a thing for hits. here's one better:

HURRICANE SANDY WAS MADE BY MAN details at 11

Jazz41084186d ago (Edited 4186d ago )

Sony reminds me of that turd that just was not quite right and maybe a little to yellow or red. Flush flush its that easy to say no more to sony. ....come to think about it , it could be the diffrent lifestyles that people eat up...any one hungry for a nintendo value meal or a xbox shake that will have your toilet green for weeks.

showtimefolks4186d ago

I think we can all agree competition is good for business and for us gamers. Sony came into this gen very arrogant and full of them self but learned that wii and xbox360 are giving consumers better bang for their buck. I spent 600 on ps3 at launch and I play to buy os4 at launch even if it's 500-600 just because Sony has a history and they know how to make quality games. But I would be stupid to say they have done it perfectly or smartly

Ps4 doesn't need to be ver powerful just make it where ts moving the tech forward and at a reasonable price for the consumers

Much much much much yeh 4 much easier development, this attitude of we are Sony and we make things harder has to change, make things extremely easy to develop for ps4 sp every publisher will be gladly on board

Sony will not be selling ps4 at a loss so they will try their best to cut even or make a little starting at launch,

Games,games,games and more games how about launching with killzone 4,uncharted 4,GT6 a new ratchet game. Ps3 early on was rough had so few quality games and that has to change.

People hate on VIta and say it has no games yet it launched with 25 games but thing is all those games came out than people forgot them so maybe space them out. Each game should get its fair time advertisement wise and consumers attention wise.

And stop shooting yourself in the foot like with Vita memory cards which are way over priced, to my earlier points make things easier for consumers and in the long run easier for Sony and publishers which are support the system or systems.

Let's get be thing out of the way this market is big enough to handle 3 main home consoles and more competition means better products for us.

I am very excited for wiiu but I am not buying it at launch but will be gettingit soon. The only concern I have for wiiu has more to do with Nintendo's history with 3rd arty publishers. They need to prove to us core gamers plus the publishers that they mean business and will be treating 3rd party games better.

Xbox720 or whatever it's gonna be called I am not intersted as of now, I bought 360 at launch but over the last 2-3 years MS have not made an effort with us the core market, why is everything all of the sudden about kinect? Wasn't xbox360 selling well when we are the core gamers supported it? Isnt it because of us xbox360 is successful to begin with so why did they turn on us. I think moving forward they will have a harder sell than Sony or Nintendo when it comes to core market.

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CarlosX3604186d ago

Hasn't they wanted to do this for a long time? I think Sony waited a lil too long to make this comment.

I think Nintendo is on it's last legs. If Wii U is not successful by next gen... It's done as in, they will have run out of ways to stay relevant.

It already tried innovation for a very long time. It's tried a "universal" approach with N64 and Wii U.

I honestly do not understand how they survived the industry this long.

neogeo4186d ago (Edited 4186d ago )

You're a fool of fools. Nintendo is a bigger company than Sony with more money in the bank. 6.69 Billion more value then Sony on the stock market. Let me put it into perspective for you.

WiiU could fail and be dead in the water and Nintendo would still have enough money to have a profit loss for 63 years straight before they went out of biz.

So WiiU can fail, the next few handhelds could fail, and NiN still would have PLENTY of cash to start over again and again and again. It's over a 100+ year old company and It will still be here long after you're dead and forgotten:)

pain777pas4186d ago

Interesting but untrue. The fact is that Nintendo is not the first home cartridge or disc console based gaming system ever. There were many who tried to crack the nut of home interactive entertainment BEFORE Nintendo. Mario set the stage for the success that Nintendo has garnered and Mario continues to be Nintendo's crutch. Now people will talk about innovation and dismiss Sony. Without Sony gaming would be in the dark ages still. Sony broke through with a trail of fire and gaming changed forever to be a hobby past teen years which was a demographic that the PC used to be the only platform where you could get the mature gaming experience. Nintendo knows the truth. If they did not pull out of the Sony disc add on deal then Sony would not have come into the gaming market. Sony added more value to their consoles from day one with the PS1 being a CD player and in some cases games could run in ram and you could put in a CD to play as your background soundtrack. Sony brought more to do on a console than play video games to the mass market and then gathered some of the best devs in the business and the rest is history. Sony innovated with motion control PS eye, remote play over the internet, dual analog sticks which is now standard, almost timeless controller layout that should be tweaked to be more like the Vita with real triggers for the L2 and R2 buttons. As far as gaming consoles go and moving on rather than standing put Sony is the best gaming company. They release new ips every generation despite past success. Nintendo would never do such a thing and dare I say never will because money means more to them. Underpowered consoles are a result of a lack of success in the last 2 generations and great marketing and Oprah made Wii a sensation. The Wii U would have been grossly underpowered if the Wii did not put up the numbers that it did. They can get to the 100 million mark now because gaming is so main stream and that is greatly thanks to the PS1 and PS2 which were the first home consoles to reach these heights of success. You have to be fair and reasonable when you deal with the Sony and Nintendo story because Nintendo screwed Nintendo having Sony as a competitor and not an ally.

If the Wii U fails (which it won't until we get details on the other 2 companies) it will be because Nintendo thought the fisher price nature of the tablet was enough. People are going to get angry and I am ready for the disagrees but Wii U did not go far enough. The controller should be the console and the box should just be to stream and upres the image from the tablet to the TV. Even if they went to an SD cartridge for games that are inserted in the tablet they would have probably hurt some 3DS sales but they could pre-empt some Gai-Kai and Microsoft cloud gaming next gen goodness. See Nintendo is not equipped to face what could come easily with Smart glass and Vita or a new controller from Sony. Plus their online will only be up to this gens current online offerings when Sony especially outright is prepared to make some serious strides in gaming convenience and accessibility with the Gai-Kai deal. Nintendo may be the first to market but I have a feeling that they are making some errors in light of likely possible innovation that exists and that Sony and Microsoft are going to enter in a big way.

Buff10444186d ago

I mean...sell Vitas. They can't even do that.

SilentNegotiator4186d ago (Edited 4186d ago )

You're bad at trolling in your articles and you're worse at trolling in comments. FFS, you attacked Katamari on the Vita because there were "too many" and praised Mario Kart 7 the same week...games that have about the same number of titles per platform and frankly tend to "innovate" the same amount (That is, barely). Your double standards are repulsive.

The 3DS had the same struggle before a price drop. The Ps3 suffered similar struggles before it started dropping in price. This isn't unmarked territory and you know it.

Your articles are an embarrassment and that's tough to do in a form of journalism with such low standards, Chris Buffa. Your writing takes modojo down a million notches.

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Relientk774187d ago

Wow, this might be sorta hard. I respect both companies a lot and play consoles and games from both of them. I'd prefer to see them both stick around.

GribbleGrunger4187d ago (Edited 4187d ago )

What utter rubbish. Sony aren't trying to oust Nintendo, they are just trying to make themselves relevant in an ever changing market. I've been one of those people that have promoted the idea of the Vita/PS3 combo, but not because I think it can do it better. If anything, the combo gives developers the option to expand on the Wiiu idea, which makes support for the Wiiu more likely in the coming years.

Is there any angles left to demonize Sony with? I'd say all bases have now been covered.

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jujubee884187d ago (Edited 4187d ago )

Sony and Nintendo need to quit with the games and hook-up!!! >>>>>>>

They would make such a nice couple. Ugh, I would DIE if Nintendo and Sony end up with some creeps who would end up dumping them and treating them all wrong.

Look, Sony did somethings and said somethings. So did Nintendo. At the end of the day, we both know they are soulmates. They are always next to eachother at E3, staring at each other.

It's like .. HELLO! OMGOSH. :O

ronin4life4187d ago

Sony WAS trying to kill Nintendo... like 10-8 years ago.

But that time has passed. Sony has discovered it doesn't need to edge out competition to continue on, and works to place itself competitively within the market rather than taking someone elses spot.

Ben_Grimm4186d ago

You honestly don't think that each company (MS, Nintendo, Sony) are trying or hoping to become the dominate player and leader in the video game industry? And that each of these companies are trying to out the other?

Come on now.

Each company saw what Nintendo was doing with its motion controls and family friendly games and both tried to capitalize on it and take away from the Wii demographic.

Each company is trying to one up the other and become the leader in your living room. This means doing what the competition does but better.
I know you are a Sony fan but to think that they can do no wrong or they're not in the business of crushing competition is very naive.

bozebo4186d ago (Edited 4186d ago )

As far as Wii-U goes. I just wan't a Pokémon MMO, that would get me buying one.

It's all down to the games, Sony and Nintendo both have good first party line ups but the Nintendo ones are going a bit stale in comparison.

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Moonman4187d ago (Edited 4187d ago )

You have to push all the franchise assets and billions of dollars Nintendo has in the bank out the door first. Hard time doing that...

On top of the fact that Nintendo has 70% of the game market in Japan now recently quoted from Forbes. If anything, the reverse will happen.

GraveLord4187d ago

Lots of nonsense in this article...

"Nintendo may suffer the same fate with the Wii U as Sony has already begun its assault on their system before it even has had a chance to launch, and before Sony has even considered developing a next-gen system."

Uh...PS4 has been in development for years now. In fact there are already games being made for it.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers5h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

z2g2h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

SegaSaturn66950m ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle33m ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg17h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos17h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola12h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."