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But how will Wada be able to find you and silence you if he doesn't know your address............. I still have a hard time believing that something bad will come out of posting an address on a part of the internet that isn't "moot". I just don't see what someone will gain by knowing your address............what will they do ring your doorbell and run away. Then again it's not required to even use your real address..........or name far that matter. If someone really wanted to they could probably sign the same petition 10 times; each as a different person.
But I think they were referring to Lightning Returns.
Which I sort of agree is probably the best solution.
Because even though the new game does seem like it could be better then the last two, if it sells well SE will probably just say : "Okay, Let's do a sequel".
@ash_divine dude its already apparent that no one wants another FFXIII sequel so really whos gonna but it anyway. FFXIII-2 didn't even sell a quarter of what its predecessor did. imagine what the outcome will be for LR: FFXIII.
Trust me I've imagined. Things are looking pretty bad for the game right now.
Though SE is bringing it onto themselves I guess.
I'm not really sure what they were thinking with this one. Any rational person would think a product with such a steep decline in sales deserves a break, not a sequel.
I seriously wonder what goes on inside SE these day. Some of their choices are sort of baffling.
That is very true. But it seems that we 'smart' gamers (as in smart shopping) are a minority. Look at how many people bought 13-2. Yes, it was less but apparently enough to warrant 13-3.
It looks like gamers are getting serious about not buying to show the companies we won't stand for this BS anymore though.
I hope we can see our results soon...with games like RE6, DmC, and 13-3.
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I am getting RE6, Because I like what I see (And enjoyed the gameplay tweaks, Leon's game looks like the older style.), and I support Capcom's in-house dev teams. I just want them to stop Outsourcing and westernizing.
I will not get DmC, EVER! I will get 2 copies of MGRising instead! (One for my Cousin as a gift) And I bought FFXIII, but not 2, and not 3 either!
I will only buy Type-0 of SE's games. (Versus XIII aside)
How patronising of you, to assume people who bought FFXIII-2 aren't "smart gamers" it couldn't possibly be that people enjoyed the first one enough to warrant a purchase of the improved sequel, could it?
I want VS as much as the next guy, but I actually enjoyed both FFXIII and FFXIII-2 and I don't see why I'm less of a gamer for that..
It's pretty disgusting to assume your tastes reflect the "right" direction, and everyone else's as wrong.
I think its funny how everyone says they don't want a ff13 game. Yes it didn't sell close to what FF13 but it sold around 2.5 million copies. Most companies would be happy to get that much sales. Its actually rare to have most games get that much sales. So you cut that in half again for 13-3 thats 1.25 million copies still sold which still makes them profit. I don't know about you but thats a lot of people that want it.
Should we make a petition demanding jobs/global warming or something more important/urgent? it is just an entertainment, if u don't like something, u don't buy it. No wonder more serious issues aren't being solve because people focus more on useless matter like this
But what happens when Square responds with the polite PR equivalent of, "F-U, we don't have to tell you sh*t. Just give us your money." They don't even understand FF13-2 selling less than FF13. They only continued the story few wanted continued, or much like myself even finished.
the problem with most of the so called "fans" is that they didnt give the game a chance, and never finished, much like yourself. the game gets much better at 20+ hours, and those that beat the game with an open mind had the sequel they wished for, with most of the problems from the original solved, and the best aspect of 13 (the combat) returning slightly improved.
the story in xiii was poorly executed, but IMO, the mithology behind it is interesting(when u actually understand whats going on). i really dont expect every ff to have a ffVII level of storytelling, that was really one of a kind. 50 hours is enough to judge the game by yourself, so im not making an argument here. personally, i think XIIIs combat system balanced its (many) shortcomings. the same happened with X.
I can't get over the fact that Type O wasn't released in NA or EU, and that it still hasn't been ported to Vita,honestly wouldn't take longer than a couple of months, and would be much better than this Xiii-3 BS,
On one hand, it's our (meaning the fans and customers) fault for always hoping for VS XIII news. On the other hand, Square Enix first showed footage of the game 6 years ago, and since then, had released FFXIII, XIII-2, an now announced a FFXIII-3, the third of the FFXIII series which no one even loved anyways. Square is now tied with Capcom as the worst JP publishers/developers
We're not going to die if we don't have more info on V-13....
SE likely changed their developmental path for the game and thus needs more time. 13-2 and 3 are meant to keep us entertained within the presence of the magical number "13". Be grateful they didn't actually cancel Versus.
Even though LR looks like it could be better then the other games in the trilogy, Square went about this so, so, wrong.
Don't they realize that by announcing this game now, as opposed to after Versus XIII, they've already sealed it's fate.
Because no matter how the game turns out, all most people are going see it as is an obstacle between them and VSXIII.
Now, had they released it after Versus, LR would be in a much stronger position. Versus XIII fans would be appeased, and maybe even more open minded to a new FFXIII game. And fans of Lightning would be more refreshed and excited due to having a nice little break from the (complicated) lore.
By releasing this game first, all SE are doing is making XIII fans fatigued, making Versus fans angry, and making everyone else confused.
At this point square might aswell call Versus FFXV not to distance itself from XIII but because every gen usually Square releases 3 main numeber final fantasy games And this one is coming to end soon. I personally see this game as a coming late in 2013 or early 2014. Its not gonna be on a next gen concole Squares been developing it for PS3 they can't back out of that(if PS4 is backwards compatible I'm sure you can play it on one).
I would like just one trailer just a hint of gameplay obviously Square wants to keep this locked down tight to surprise everyone and justify the wait. BUT when I play this game ima expect it to be on par with VII or VI for how long its taking.
This is the problem which is losing core gamers, silly little men not listening to their fans i am not buying LR and didn't buy 13-2, i am also very certain that everyone will boycott the game to show SE a lesson. I see articles blaming the long console cycle but i blame these fuckers trying to squeeze pennys out of hard working people.
I'd agree and also refuse to purchase another SE game until FFVs13 is released. I just dont understand releasing 2 more FF13 games and not just working on getting v13 out the door. Especially if v13 would destroy all 3 other 13s combined.
im 100% positive that Vs13 wont live up to the expectations even if it is released. it has an overword, but i doubt its action core will please any of you. xii was open, but if the core gameplay is bad, the game is bad as a whole. i hope the game turns out to be great, but i wouldnt put my expectation so high.
I liked 13. Yep i said it. I didnt like 13-2 though. I liked the gmeplay but they ruined the story from the 1st and it shouldve been a new ip or ff with Noel and the crew minus 13 characters. Same with the new Lightning game. Sounds like they have a great idea for a game and shoehorned Lightning into it. 13-2 did have a cool story on its own but got bogged down with the tie ins and cameo's. Both sequels wouldve gotten a better reception as new games and reminded people of the old square when new ip's were frequent as opposed to taking the same character and cramming her into every interesting game idea they have. Imagine Vagrant Story with Cloud or if they put Cloud into Xenogears. Yea...Thats what theyre doing these days.
I just want Type-0 dubbed or localized and VS13 to not be cancelled and release before this gen ends. Also really hope Bravely Default gets released here.
I plan on picking up both of these titles the day they hit shelves, should that ever happen. If SE wants more of my money, they just need to make that happen. I'm not about to go flag waving to give it to them. If they don't want it, I'm happy to keep it in my wallet. I'm pretty tired, at this point, of waiting on them to follow through with their promises.
I find it really strange & unsettling that Squarenix usually localizes their games really quick but for some reason FF Type-0 has not.
Look Kingdom Hearts 3D, FF Theatrythm, FF 3 and some others i missed were announced to be localized like within months of their Japanese release dates.
What is taking FF Type-0 so long? Having played the game i understand that it is a huge game for the PSP with a lot of text & voice work. Still that is still inexcusable to not having announce that it is actually coming over to the west.
Heck even say that they are making the necessary changes so it can be played on the Vita, that would please fans waiting for the game.
Everyone wants FFX HD, FFVXIII, FF Type 0 western release and KH3. A tiny minority wants XIII-3, and the latter is the only one we can count on to be released quite soon.
square enix was finished years ago its like that relationship where we've been dumped but still hound our ex for another chance but the ex is NEVER going to take us back. we should all give up on square enix it was fun but life is water not stone things change and things die. SE should stick to handheld games Tactics ogre and Dissidia were great lets have more of that instead
Any one else think they might show FFV13 at TGS behind closed doors because that's what i think they will do and that's why it was not on their line up of games but that still wont be enough as its been far to long.
I am really getting tired of XIII apologists if you know what I mean.
You talk about the facts, tell them that XIII is not well liked except by a minority and it's
*read in a retarded Jay Leno voice*
"You can't say everybody hated it, that's silly, you're a silly person"
"Come on, there aren't as many haters as you say there are. That's ridiculous, it's still a good game."
"You may not have liked it but others did, how can you say we're lesser than you for falsely appreciating such god awful trash?"
"I'm an insufferable (derogatory noun), please (derogatory verb) my face!"
"IM SUPPORTING THE DOWNFALL OF FF, I'VE NEVER PLAYED AN FF GAME BEFORE BUT LIGHTNING SURE IS PURDY"
"I'm supporting the objective downfall of FF, I know it's unpopular but I'll argue to the death that it's a worthy entry in the series, even though people who want Versus are being shafted left and right. lol FF fanboys, I'm happy with my waifu, noctis is a gay emo anyway"
And of course...
"Lightning is the best protagonist FF has ever seen, much better than Cloud, who she was so very emptily based on in the first place. She's really kind of a stupid (derogatory noun) but at least she's not a spikey haired emo boy with a giant sword"
tl;dr FFXIII FANS DON'T APPRECIATE FF AS IT SHOULD BE APPRECIATED, THEIR MEMORIES OF FF ARE NOT YOURS AND MOST OF THEM STARTED THE SERIES WITH THIS GAME.
But hey, at least they're getting shafted by a 3rd person action title with "Replay value" instead of a full fledged JRPG with PARTY MEMBERS.
Even SE knows FFXIII is unpopular, they announced it at PAX with no follow up event for TGS...they know the majority of us TRUE FF fans simply don't care. Why don't you understand that? Why do you fight tooth and nail when this objectively unpopular and flawed game (more so than any in the series) comes under rightful fire? Are ya trolling? What's the deal?
Well said. The way most people defend the 13 series is boarder line trolling sometimes. I understand if you love the games, but you'd think they worked for SE the way they defend SE and FF13. Its really irritating...
It's not an amazing FF game, no. But, it is a good game, whether you care or not, people -do- like the game. And quite of few of my friends who have been fans of the series since the beginning enjoyed it, so no, it isn't just "first timers" who liked it.
The truth is, it isn't good enough to be called a real FF but that is just unfortunate for the game itself, if it didn't have that and expectation attached, it'd be well received.
It is condescending of people such as yourself, who again, assume they are better for not liking the game. It's stupid. SE obviously had some form of plan with capitalising on the series brand and they went through it. I'm willing to bet VS is delayed more due to technical issues than anything.
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He killed the image of SE it's a shame.
Enix doesn't exist anymore. Where is the time if Dragon Quest and FF were the absolute kings? This jerk has to step away.
I've been boycotting every game SE after FF12
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lol, true.
But I think they were referring to Lightning Returns.
Which I sort of agree is probably the best solution.
Because even though the new game does seem like it could be better then the last two, if it sells well SE will probably just say : "Okay, Let's do a sequel".
"imagine what the outcome will be for LR: FFXIII"
Trust me I've imagined. Things are looking pretty bad for the game right now.
Though SE is bringing it onto themselves I guess.
I'm not really sure what they were thinking with this one. Any rational person would think a product with such a steep decline in sales deserves a break, not a sequel.
I seriously wonder what goes on inside SE these day. Some of their choices are sort of baffling.
That is very true. But it seems that we 'smart' gamers (as in smart shopping) are a minority. Look at how many people bought 13-2. Yes, it was less but apparently enough to warrant 13-3.
It looks like gamers are getting serious about not buying to show the companies we won't stand for this BS anymore though.
I hope we can see our results soon...with games like RE6, DmC, and 13-3.
If I forgot anything please add that along also ^__^''
I will not get DmC, EVER! I will get 2 copies of MGRising instead! (One for my Cousin as a gift)
And I bought FFXIII, but not 2, and not 3 either!
I will only buy Type-0 of SE's games. (Versus XIII aside)
I want VS as much as the next guy, but I actually enjoyed both FFXIII and FFXIII-2 and I don't see why I'm less of a gamer for that..
It's pretty disgusting to assume your tastes reflect the "right" direction, and everyone else's as wrong.
I think its funny how everyone says they don't want a ff13 game. Yes it didn't sell close to what FF13 but it sold around 2.5 million copies. Most companies would be happy to get that much sales. Its actually rare to have most games get that much sales. So you cut that in half again for 13-3 thats 1.25 million copies still sold which still makes them profit. I don't know about you but thats a lot of people that want it.
SE likely changed their developmental path for the game and thus needs more time. 13-2 and 3 are meant to keep us entertained within the presence of the magical number "13". Be grateful they didn't actually cancel Versus.
Even though LR looks like it could be better then the other games in the trilogy, Square went about this so, so, wrong.
Don't they realize that by announcing this game now, as opposed to after Versus XIII, they've already sealed it's fate.
Because no matter how the game turns out, all most people are going see it as is an obstacle between them and VSXIII.
Now, had they released it after Versus, LR would be in a much stronger position. Versus XIII fans would be appeased, and maybe even more open minded to a new FFXIII game. And fans of Lightning would be more refreshed and excited due to having a nice little break from the (complicated) lore.
By releasing this game first, all SE are doing is making XIII fans fatigued, making Versus fans angry, and making everyone else confused.
I would like just one trailer just a hint of gameplay obviously Square wants to keep this locked down tight to surprise everyone and justify the wait. BUT when I play this game ima expect it to be on par with VII or VI for how long its taking.
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I just want Type-0 dubbed or localized and VS13 to not be cancelled and release before this gen ends. Also really hope Bravely Default gets released here.
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As for Versus, well, I personally think the huge gameplay trailer was enough. Too much information about a game prior to it's release just spoils it.
Look Kingdom Hearts 3D, FF Theatrythm, FF 3 and some others i missed were announced to be localized like within months of their Japanese release dates.
What is taking FF Type-0 so long? Having played the game i understand that it is a huge game for the PSP with a lot of text & voice work. Still that is still inexcusable to not having announce that it is actually coming over to the west.
Heck even say that they are making the necessary changes so it can be played on the Vita, that would please fans waiting for the game.
*shaking my head while doing a double facepalm*
You talk about the facts, tell them that XIII is not well liked except by a minority and it's
*read in a retarded Jay Leno voice*
"You can't say everybody hated it, that's silly, you're a silly person"
"Come on, there aren't as many haters as you say there are. That's ridiculous, it's still a good game."
"You may not have liked it but others did, how can you say we're lesser than you for falsely appreciating such god awful trash?"
"I'm an insufferable (derogatory noun), please (derogatory verb) my face!"
"IM SUPPORTING THE DOWNFALL OF FF, I'VE NEVER PLAYED AN FF GAME BEFORE BUT LIGHTNING SURE IS PURDY"
"I'm supporting the objective downfall of FF, I know it's unpopular but I'll argue to the death that it's a worthy entry in the series, even though people who want Versus are being shafted left and right. lol FF fanboys, I'm happy with my waifu, noctis is a gay emo anyway"
And of course...
"Lightning is the best protagonist FF has ever seen, much better than Cloud, who she was so very emptily based on in the first place. She's really kind of a stupid (derogatory noun) but at least she's not a spikey haired emo boy with a giant sword"
tl;dr FFXIII FANS DON'T APPRECIATE FF AS IT SHOULD BE APPRECIATED, THEIR MEMORIES OF FF ARE NOT YOURS AND MOST OF THEM STARTED THE SERIES WITH THIS GAME.
But hey, at least they're getting shafted by a 3rd person action title with "Replay value" instead of a full fledged JRPG with PARTY MEMBERS.
Even SE knows FFXIII is unpopular, they announced it at PAX with no follow up event for TGS...they know the majority of us TRUE FF fans simply don't care. Why don't you understand that? Why do you fight tooth and nail when this objectively unpopular and flawed game (more so than any in the series) comes under rightful fire? Are ya trolling? What's the deal?
The truth is, it isn't good enough to be called a real FF but that is just unfortunate for the game itself, if it didn't have that and expectation attached, it'd be well received.
It is condescending of people such as yourself, who again, assume they are better for not liking the game. It's stupid. SE obviously had some form of plan with capitalising on the series brand and they went through it. I'm willing to bet VS is delayed more due to technical issues than anything.