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World's first GTA IV review "removed at the advice of legal counsel"

Following the posting of what claimed to be the world's first GTA IV review yesterday, all that's now left of the piece is a smoking hole and the rather curt message, "This site has been removed at the advice of legal council," VG247 reports.

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destroyah5854d ago

Yeah because we didn't already know this.

Phil Harrison Mklll5854d ago

I just want to play it really:P
This is getting silly

JsonHenry5854d ago

I have a hard time believing this review was legit when I read it the first time.

sonarus5854d ago

yea the review sounded like a load of crap but rockstar hasn't discredited it...yet

xhi45854d ago (Edited 5854d ago )

then thank god I'm getting the ps3 version.

But who knows if it's fake or real, for all we know the guy could really be Barney the lovable singable purple dinosaur.

for those that couldn't read that review, here you go

http://home.comcast.net/~in...

Is it real? Decide for yourselves....

@ Below, yeah, honestly, I don't think there will be much difference, except honestly I think Rockstar will (i mean they have been helped by Sony with the optimisation as told by Jermea Barrea VP of Rockstar in PSM3), they'd obviously take advantage of the PS3's SPU's and hard drive, I can definitely see subtle differences like more on screen in the ps3 version and better colour creation, more stable framerate etc. because of all the work the SPU's can do in the background with the hard drive.

But yeah who knows.

EDIT no. 2 - I just finished reading through the 'review', the same applies as I previously mentioned, but 9.3????? You've got to be kidding me, BIOSHOCK got 10's easily, San Andreas got 9.8's, 10's etc. no way GTA IV is getting less than 9.8 in my book. But i haven't played it.....so i can't really be the one to say.

ANYWAYY its nearly the 29th only 3 more weeks (YAY) so we'll know all soon........and in a few weeks we'll all (well us lucky few with next gen systems) be looking back and going either oh yeah he was right or oh what a d1ckhead lol

either way, WOOHOO THE WAITS ALMOST OVER!

InMyOpinion5854d ago (Edited 5854d ago )

I found it highly doubtful that, as he wrote, the PS3 version would have split-screen modes and the 360 wouldn't, because it couldn't handle it technically. I have read many reports that have stated that the 360 version is one week ahead in development, and that both versions will have the same features. Add to that the fact that almost all previews have been made of the 360 version. The GamesRadar dude who was the first in the world to finish the game did it on the 360.

He could be telling the truth of course, but he wasn't reviewing the final build, which leaves us unknowing of what to expect really.

I'm just saying, I'll be waiting for proper reviews of this game.

NO_PUDding5854d ago

That's not actually true.

For exmaple Geoff Keighley (a major games industry individual) has only seen it running on the PS3. And you don't know for sure that the guy who completed it, completed it on an Xbox.

I assume he did too, but there will have been otehr members of the press, playing it on PS3's for their respective magazines.

And as for the Split screen, Gamestop had this in thier description as only on the PS3 version. Althoguh it's since been changed/corrected. Maybe that's bombshell Microsoft or Rockstar don't want anyone else to know till release or it was a major typo.

InMyOpinion5854d ago

The GamesRadar dude was reviewing the game for Xbox 360 World, so I assumed he was reviewing the 360 version =)

http://www.gamesradar.com/f...

I can't argue with wether Geoff has only played it on the PS3 or not, or what version other magazines have gotten their hands-on so to speak =)

In any case, I don't think color or framerate differences are gonna stop anyone from buying either version.

uie4rhig5854d ago

lol 3 weeks :D 8-) that means it is being shipped to the stores already... its amazing lol

http://zeryl.net/iv/ <<< Countdown to GTA IV Launch :D

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TheMART5854d ago

That guy has a strange kind of reviewing there:

"I can't conclude one way or the other why the split-screen mode was not available on 360, but I assume by the drop in on-screen objects on the PS3 that the 360 just couldn't handle it. If you own a 360, don't worry. You have Xbox Live…so you're set."

Uhm... He previewed and didn't review, because he was testing not the final version of the game but earlier builds. So he did 'assume' something on top of a preview version.

Sounds like someone was trying to get attention for a website. The battle begins soonish, with real reviews and comparisons coming in. The end of April is almost here...

TheMART5854d ago

If your mind can't understand that's just a strange kind of PS3 fanboylike comment, not reviewing the final version and so on

You should crawl back in that Buttstation 3 hole.

Phil Harrison Mklll5854d ago

The First GTA IV Review

With PS3 & Xbox comparisons:

The PS3 has a more relaxed color pallet, but this gives everything a more realistic look. If you don't like the realistic look, and you have a HDMI connection, you can fiddle with your PS3 display settings and get it looking much more saturated. The textures are just as sharp as the 360 version, and there's little to no pop-in or screen tearing. The PS3 takes longer to load than the 360, but I took several different head counts in game at different locations, and I always found the PS3 to be more populated than the 360. This could be attributed to the dynamic nature of the world, but it's hard to tell. Either way, the difference was never more than five to seven pedestrians or three to four cars—it's not really much of an advantage.

The 360 is bright. Boy is it bright. Based on discussion history, this one will be claimed to look better, but it'll really be preference. The texture quality is the same on both systems, but the 360 has a more cartoon-like look. This isn't a bad thing. It just depends on preference. I'd compare the difference to that of Oblivion on each system. The 360 also suffers from some frame rate drops that are almost non-existent on the PS3. Installing the 360 version on your system's hard drive, however, will bring performance almost up to par with the PS3.

I know, you want details, but all I can confirm is split-screen on PS3 only. I was alone, so I didn't actually get to have any matches, but I could tell that the split-screen worked really well. There was a significant decrease in the amount of traffic and pedestrians, but it didn't ruin anything. This is understandable. Rendering two instances of Liberty City is a chore for any machine. I can't conclude one way or the other why the split-screen mode was not available on 360, but I assume by the drop in on-screen objects on the PS3 that the 360 just couldn't handle it. If you own a 360, don't worry. You have Xbox Live…so you're set.

TheMART5854d ago

But...

It's not a review, but a preview

"This review is based on early previews of the game. It may or may not reflect the final retail version, available 4/29/08."

So enjoy a nonsense written article from God who knows what kind of dork on the net, till the end of April when EDGE, 1UP and whatever trusted source has reviewed and compared it.

I've heard to many games that were said to have the best version on the PS3 weeks before the reviews and then... after the reviews suddenly the PS3 version sucked donkey balls. So don't get your hopes up to high there dude

THC CELL5854d ago

Mart everything u say is a fail why bother u no ps3 has 2008 and 9
I no u have a ps3 cause u no hell of a lot of BS how can u judge something u never played Ya just a d*ck really man
if you go by word of mouth and stupid fanboys like a self u are retarded
i have met so many player in my live that was huge fans of x box and converted to ps3 fans. X box has Nothing Gears 2 fable then what man
We have games Like La noir,Getaway coming
Resistence 2,X box is dead

Whatever Rockster says the RAGE Engine and it Devlopment tools are built in and around the PS3, but background rendering is important in games like GTA and there the PS3 has more processing power so ultimalty more Objects and Actions around the city.

TheMART5854d ago

haha go write proper English and no weird facked up slang

Second

For every XBOX fan that you know that would have converted to PS3 I know 10 if not more PS2 former fans that converted to the 360.

Really. I don't know many XBOX fans or 360 owners that totally converted to the PS3. Some might have bought it along their 360, but Playstation fans did convert a lot more to the 360 then the other way around for sure.

Back to the facts: So you're ignoring the straight fact that this guy didn't review the final game, but based his 'review' on several previews of old builds of the game. If you actually did that and didn't just suck the whole story out of Kaz's d!ck?

I don't see any base of an actual review in this text. That's reality. That's why I am saying wait untill the reviews will come in. That is something PS3 fans should do also. Instead of all the hype before a game and then get dissapointed because they didn't get the best version of the game, but the 360 did.

It is always known the 360 version was further ahead and all the demos that have been run in public were running on 360 hardware. It is designed with the 360 first in mind. Most signs point to those games (at least 95%) that run better on the 360. And those few ones that have been designed with the PS3 in mind mostly are about equal, for example Burnout Paradise.

Thus we can say: this article is preview of early builds or totally made up, combined with the game designed with 360 first in mind, we'll have to see the comparisons at the end of April.

THC CELL5854d ago

Mart for your fat head i am not english

X BOX is dead mate
had a good run put up with it

X box is Very easy to develope for
yes ps3 is a challange
But exclusive games are a hell of a lot better on ps3 x box 360 other hand Looks OK but the better they look the shorter they are

heyheyhey5854d ago

MART you pu$$y, you wont agree to my bet

whats the matter? hard to admit you were wrong? no? put your money where your mouth is

Sir Ken Kutaragi 45854d ago

Someone is P*ssed off on this!!! ;-D

Kaz Hirai5854d ago

What's the matter, SIMPLETON?
Did your Xbox 360 "console" break? Or did it set you on fire? Or are you just upset about your DESPICABLE 2008 "line-up"?
Whatever the reason, King Kaz will now laugh in your face:

MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!

fanboyarebitches5854d ago

look at the sony bots getting all hyped lmfao...check kotaku , destructoid and ign theres a blog in there about the FAKE review i dont have a link i dont know how it works but they way the sony bots acted was crazy yesterday you guiys should be locked up people like
"dora the explorer" "heyheyhey" "sirken" "the cell" all acted like animals on the ps3 forums laughing at the 360 owners then 10 minutes later some guy "prostate123212" provided a link to the blog confirming the review was fake and then for some reason n4g deleted it?
anyways all you sony fanboys didnt even reply and acted like it didnt exist this is sad and pathetic even when legit people provide proof that the review was fake they deny it cause there so desperate for a good game its sad DONT REPLY ILL BE OUTSIDE lmfao its funny ps3 have so much FREE time cause they have no games to play DONT REPLY I HAVE FRIENDS UNLIKE YOU

liquidsnake5854d ago

I really don't give a crap wich one is better. Mart, you're saying that this is a preview of an early build. Still, the Ps3 version of the game has no framedrops, realistic colours...well you know the list. This can only mean that the final build will be better then what it allready is. So please get lost.

TurdStationPee5854d ago

Mart, you idiot. Everyone knows you're not supposed to review final versions of games. What kind of fanboy are you?

Official General5854d ago

Man you are funny, you really know how to agitate those 360 guys! LOL

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omni_atlas5854d ago

I wasn't sure of the authenticity of the article either after the author claimed to put spoilers *AFTER* he reaches 500,000+ hits. Seems like someone looking for attention. If you go to the link of the article theres still a counter on the page at the end of "This site has been removed at the advice of legal council." (View the source file).

MrBii5854d ago (Edited 5854d ago )

For those of you who unfortunately did not had the chance to read the article before the site was taken off.

- PS3 version more realistic colors. Vibrant colors available by tweaking with color settings.
- 360 version is bright and gloomy. Gloom like no tomorrow.
- 360 version looks cartoony.
- PS3 version has more pedestrians and cars and much more vibrant city.
- 360 version has jaggies and suffers from framerate problems.
- 360 version has "pop ups". I personally would like to welcome 360 players to 1996.
- controls much more suited for the PS3 controller.
- PS3 has splitscreen and running awesome.
- 360 cant handle splitscreen.

GTA4 rated 9.3 out of 10.

Conclusion: PS3 version > 360 version.

Neurotoxin5854d ago

Yeah that sum`s it up nicely.

Except what your summing up is most probably a Fanboy article similar to the one that was posting about the 360 version about a week ago.;.... funny thing was that wasn`t taken down by Rockstar legal team. Maybe there is some truth to what the guy wrote? Regardless we`ll see when the reviews start rolling in, not long now at all :).

Rageanitus5854d ago

What hapened to all those comments months ago. where they said the xbox 360 version was playable yet the ps3 was not.

and why would they remove a review whether it be fake or real... I suspect money handling is inovled.

Gamers.... prepare to have overbloated scores like halo 3.

Varsarus5854d ago

I don't think it was taken of. I think he waiting for his site to reach 500,000 hits then he'll put more detail into a spoilers section or something.

uie4rhig5854d ago

@4.1
erm are you serious? reviews? nobody will be reading any reviews lol, every one will be playing the game and not caring about anything, i have got the feeling that this is gonna be worse that the Halo 3 launch lol
i am still wondering how much it will sell.. (i think it will either out sell halo 3 or it will be near Halo 3!! but i still can't wait.. 22 days left 8-)

jessupj5854d ago

Yeah that definitely sounds fake... definitely sounds like a fanboy to me. It can't be real because rockstar have already said that 'both versions are pretty much identical'.

Fallen_Angel5854d ago

I also said that the 360 frame rate issues could be fix by install it on the HDD. WTF when has any game been able to be install on a 360. If fact MS doesnt allow it. The review is a FAKE and proven by the fact that it was removed. Seriously go back to reading SDF already.

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Mainline Grand Theft Auto trailers ranked from best to worst

As we have all been graced by the release of Grand Theft Auto 6's trailer, we're ranking the best and worst GTA trailers to date.

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purple101132d ago

We be getting these posts All week now lads. Someone noticed a number plate ... Someone noticed a billboard... I can see it now

Just go on YouTube and watch one of the many videos dissecting the whole 1minite 30secs worth.

This site supposed to be for news.

roadkillers132d ago

These updates on N4G are going to ruin whats rest of this site. Unfortunate since I was one of the first members.. The site shows unsecure when i login as well.

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Grand Theft Auto 4 Anniversary: The Beginning of the Age of RAGE

Grand Theft Auto 4 is an important game for Rockstar, not least because it was the first title in the franchise to use the newly created RAGE engine.

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franwex350d ago

Wasn’t the Table Tennis game the first to use RAGE?

isarai350d ago

Was about to say the same, but they do say first "in the franchise" so 🤷

cammers1995350d ago

The fact it hasnt been remastered is insane.

Abear21349d ago

Rage engine made driving on the sidewalk in cinematic slow motion camera a blast

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Fifteen Years On, 'Grand Theft Auto IV' Is Still the Series’ Best

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Machina352d ago

The series' most overhyped and overrated (especially by critics) more like.

Number1TailzFan352d ago

Not sure tbh.. I'd say 3 was the most overrated. It's pretty rough to go back to, it was quite rough even trying it just after Vice City. Lack of humour and vehicles that had the weight of polystyrene with top speeds to match.

VC & the stories games (even LCS) were all fun. I remember there being a lot of praise for GTA 3 on TV and in game mags, saying it was a Dreamcast killer of a game or words to that effect, and honestly after playing it on PC I didn't think it was that special and kind of dull, had the odd moment of fun but hardly anything. I heard they cut online multiplayer at the last moment for PC, shame because it could've made all the difference.

Would've loved to have seen what kind of cartoony GTA style game they could've done on Dreamcast as a competitor, I bet something along the lines of Simpsons Hit & Run would've worked well.

BlackTar187351d ago

@numberz How can the game that defined a generation and was copied by everyone be overrated? Was a asinine comment

seanpitt23351d ago

For me 4 was better than 5 was more realistic and the physics was on another level! 5 was a major let down in that department!

Number1TailzFan351d ago

@blacktar you have your opinion i have mine. I found the game dull, and it is for the most part. It set the foundation for the much superior SA and VC however.

KwietStorm_BLM351d ago

You say GTA III is overrated because it's rough to go back to and rough to play after Vice City. Your entire opinion is in hindsight. Of course it's rough going back to it today. It came out over 20 years ago. That doesn't take away from the fact that it pioneered a lot and was a paradigm shift for a lot of trends in game development today. Vice City in a lot of ways is just a more refined version of III. It was San Andreas that took the big leap forward from a design perspective. If III doesn't release, who knows if the open world genre would be what it is now. How can that be overrated?

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1nsomniac352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

Not at all. My most played game of all time. Truly stunning accomplishment in gaming and with PC graphics mods it just took it to levels beyond anything that came before and possibly even after.

People who moan about it generally tend to be people who played it on under powered consoles and couldn’t handle the more realistic car physics. It was the slightly more realistic approach that made it stand out more. Absolutely love it. In fact I always said Vice city was my favourite of all time. But after going back to the remaster I realised 4 was actually the best.

Profchaos352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

I'm no critic and I consider it the best games in the franchise after recently replaying every entry it's story when paired in conjunction with it's DLC was and still is amazing.

shinoff2183351d ago

Lol. Fun fact. That dlc cost a certain green colored console 50 million for exclusiveness. Un heard of back then. Just to point out the hypocrisy of the 3rd party exclusive agenda going on.

Anyway how the dlc better then the base game by a mile. Lol imo

DigitallyAfflicted351d ago

I've enjoyed gta4 the most from all the others too.

DarXyde351d ago

San Andreas holds a special place in my heart. Honestly, I couldn't get into IV at all. Didn't even finish it. I had some pride in playing it at first because I'm originally a New Yorker, but it just didn't do it for me.

To each their own.

shinoff2183351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

Gta sa for sure. To this day my favorite. My least fav is gta 4 easily. Gta 4 made me feel like the dude in next friday trying to take the cd back talking about i cant get jiggy wit this.

Maybe looking back it would be 3 but 3 did so damn much for gaming in general. . My first gta was of course the top downs so the series has came a long way.

notachance351d ago

Yeah I remembered falling asleep playing the last mission in GTA4.. the most boring protagonist (out of all the voiced protag), and the town is too small.

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-Foxtrot352d ago

Not really

Overrated

Boring

Liberty City despite being a reimagined version for the HD era lacked any variety

Lacked the GTA fun charm overall

Niko was bland compared to past protagonists like Tommy, CJ or Victor

blackblades351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

GTA 2 was the best, lol my only owned GTA game. Vice city was alright when I rented it back then. I cant really say which is the best cause those the only 2 games i played but GTA 2 was fun on PC back in the day. Closes game to it that I enjoyed was SR3 and I dont care what people say. That none serious tone was fun enjoyable.

banger88352d ago

Like hell it is. San Andreas was far better, much more fun and a better game overall.

isarai352d ago

Nah, it's a masterpiece in attention to detail and the amount of immersive systems at play. But it really isn't very fun, ESPECIALLY when compared to the previous games in the series. Like tons of things are just wonky and actively kneecap lots of experimentation, or is just lame. Like why do I take huge damage when falling into water, why can I only stand in very specific large trucks when they are moving but not smaller trucks and vehicles, why is the melee combat such a massive down grade from GTA SA and GTA IV, why is the euphoria nowhere near as reactive, why is being drunk using a rasterized animation of staggering rather than the far more entertaining euphoria GTAIV and RDR used when you were drunk, why do npc vehicles barely react to you popping there tires even at high speed, etc etc.

I've always loved playing around in GTA games world. Like the campaigns are great but the majority of my time was always spent just playing in the open world. Yet GTAV is the only game in the series I never really returned to after beating it, it just lacks that fun factor the others have, I spent more time in GTA SA remastered than GTAV

chicken_in_the_corn352d ago

It's one of my least favourite GTA games. It's clunky, the ai is exploitable, it's far too long and the writing is absolutely awful.

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