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Stop moaning about indie games on PS4 and start celebrating them

Sean Davies of PSgamer: The PS4 is quickly becoming the new home for the best that indie gaming has to offer. The Swapper, Nidhogg, Spelunky, Rollers of the Realm, Habitat: A Thousand Generations In Orbit, Oddworld: New ‘N’ Tasty and, of course, No Man’s Sky are being joined by hundreds of of other independently developed games heading to the PS4.

With each announcement of a new indie game coming to the PS4 that we cover at PSGamer, I have noticed a pattern emerging – that of abject negativity. “Great, another game that belongs on Facebook”, “More indie sh*t?”, “Less Indies, more AAA” and “Looks like a rubbish ZX Spectrum game” are common comments on any PS4 indie game article on N4G or Reddit and it is beginning to frustrate the life out of me. These comments are often counter intuitive, small minded and sometimes, plain stupid. We should be embracing the console indie revolution that Sony are attempting to spear head with the PS4 and PSVita instead of moaning about them and here is why.

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WilliamUsher3545d ago

Yeah I don't understand the gripes about having lots of games to choose from.

Mercenary Kings is still one of the best games this generation, and if it wasn't for an indie team we wouldn't have the game at all.

BitbyDeath3545d ago

I just got the platinum for it the other day. Brilliant game.

Prime1573545d ago

Wait, it has a platinum? How'd I miss that?

Time to play more.

RantandRave3545d ago

@WilliamUsher

I don't have anything against indies. I believe the gripes come from the lack of higher quality content being released on PS4 via indies (8 bit graphics) and before anyone says it I know it's ARTISTIC CHOICE of dev.

I feel the gamers frustration may come from games they want to play being pushed back til 2015+ in glorious 1080p 30-60fps and then Sony's appeasement stage of sorry in the meantime play these stunningly creative indie 8 bit games.

I don't know but in the end it's just an opinion and you know what those are like lol.

XtraTrstrL3545d ago

You'll understand once the PS Store becomes as cluttered as iOS and android with complete trash that you have to sift through to find a game worth anything.

Prime1573545d ago

With that logic there will be no big budget games in the red on meta critic, right?

Oh, I see 4 out of 9 are AAA flops...

The problem isn't having the games to play, the problem is steam/xbox/psn finding a good way to curate their stores so we can sift out the subjective junk easily. Some people hate ___ and some people love it.

The best way to do so now is to read reviews and decide. Or start with a demo if applicable. Having more games is not a bad thing.

Indie games in the green: Fez, Guacamelee, towefall, the swapper, resogun, trine, transistor, rogue legacy, sportsfriends, steamworld dig, 1001 spikes, don't starve, stick it to the man...

One could argue that games like strider, pixeljunk, and child of light are of the same quality as many idies, but these studios found publisher backings.

I just find people to be lazy, irresponsible consumers.

Redlogic3545d ago

Seriously, reviews are so hard to find these days. If only there was a news site for gamers that posted them in one convenient space.....**lightbulb**

Starks3545d ago (Edited 3545d ago )

Implying that they either are iOS and Android games or there is no quality control, which is sheer ignorance coming from you.

Edit: @GiggMan

Isn't there already a section on the PS Store for indie titles? If not, the option to selectively search what you want?

GiggMan3545d ago

That is my only gripe. It needs be sorted better in the ps store. Maybe add Indie to the sort filter or something like that.

As it is now it's starting to get cluttered.

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vegnadragon3545d ago

The only problem that i have with the PS indies is the lack of exclusive indie games, i know it is hard to make a indie exclusive due to profit reasons, but most of those indie games out there are cheaper on the PC.

What I would want from indies are the games like Journey, SuperStar Dust, Resogun, fat princesses, flower.

MrSwankSinatra3545d ago (Edited 3545d ago )

Nobody purchased a 400 dollar next generation console to play phone games. If you want those types of games fine, but don't blast another persons opinion for not wanting these types of games. I don't get this whole agenda of trying to shove indies down peoples throats. An this whole creativity excuse is just straight BS. Please explain to me how it's creative to play as a floppy octopus that is the father of human children, how is it creative to play as a multi color sperm cell? Those ideas are stupid and you people put it off as creative. If that's creativity then gaming has really become stretched for ideas.

godofboobees3545d ago

You know nothing. Indie games are the back bone of this industry. Every big name studio synonymous with gaming started out as Indie studios. To bash and spout ridiculous shit like that just makes you unaware of what the fuck is actually going on since day one of gaming. Now go have a coke and a fucking smile

Death3545d ago

How is it people still fail to understand the difference between an indie developer and independent studio?

Indie is the new term for Homebrew. It is an incredibly small developer with an even smaller budget. Most are done in their basement/garage, but some larger developers are quitting triple A to make budget games that have low risk and high rewards.

Independent developers are third parties. At the dawn of gaming many of our well established third parties started small, but had a big budget to work with from their publishers.

spacedelete3545d ago

exactly and whats funny is i can better free indie games on my phone. these indie games on consoles are overpriced and terrible. its sad how people use indie games with cardboard graphics to be innovative. i can name about less than 10 good indies the rest are trailer trash style games.

starchild3545d ago

A lot of great games come from indie developers and Sony's policies are allowing many of those great indie games to come to PS4. There's nothing wrong with more games.

The problem for me is, I am a PC and PS4 owner, so most of those indie games are already available on my PC, and in most cases, for less money. There is a wider breadth of indie games available on the PC than any other gaming platform.

So, really, I'm waiting for the AAA exclusives for my PS4. I've enjoyed Infamous Second Son and The Last of Us Remastered and I'm looking forward to Infamous First Light and LittleBigPlanet 3, but I hope Sony keeps a focus on those outstanding AAA exclusives they have long been known for.

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PeaSFor3545d ago (Edited 3545d ago )

More games>Less games
More choices>Less choices

its pretty easy to understand.

LightDiego3545d ago

Indie games are great, Sony should continue bringing these titles for PS4.

Starks3545d ago

Since small developers do not have the burden of having huge budgets, they get to utilize their wide array of creativity more, despite the lack of budgets they may have. Which is an extremely good thing, because that means more quality driven games with a lot more depth to them than some big blockbuster title.

spacedelete3545d ago

i don't understand this logic that just because its an indie game its automatically good so stfu and stop complaining about other people complaining.

just like AAA games theres only a small amount of good indies. i don't know were this hipster fad has come from tbh. if you wanted indies then go buy a Wii U. i bought a next gen console for next gen games.

Spotie3545d ago

Nobody is claiming that every indie is automatically good. There ARE, however, people treating every indie as bad.

Dunno what internet you've been paying attention to...

gangsta_red3545d ago (Edited 3545d ago )

Actually there ARE people treating every indie game as more games to chose from, regardless of if the game is good or not.

Quantity doesn't equal quality.

There are over thousands of indie games on the 360 and most of them are pure crap. Should those games be as celebrated as the ones sony fanboys seem to celebrate for the PS4?

For a machine that costs 400 dollars I expect to play more than just PC ports and games ported from mobile or vita.

spacedelete3545d ago

Nobody ? all i see from trolls are that indie games are innovative and fun while making out that all AAA games are like COD. i've seen people accused of being a brainless COD gamer just because they don't like indies when that person which is beyond stupid.

if i want indies i'll download them for free on my cellphone which are not only are free but it suits indies better. why would you want to play an indie game on a 60 inch TV ? especially when you have better made AAA games which are made for home experience.

KentBlake3545d ago

No Man's Sky is an indie game. If that's not a next-gen game, I don't know what is.

Starks3545d ago

"stop complaining about other people complaining."

So you want people to stop complaining about people complaining about there being too many indie titles? Dumbass much? I don't get how your AAA games are being hindered by having more companies put their titles on consoles. If anything, you should be the one not complaining at all.

Starks3544d ago

Who would want to play on a touchscreen phone anyways? See, you're just as stupid and clearly ignorant like the others who says they hate indies. How about you fund the indies money to make games with subpar quality and lack of any essence of creativity? Amazing to see that you people cannot find the brains to think this out thoroughly, but whatever.

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New Speed Golf mode whacks a Critical Hit towards Golf With Your Friends

Golf With Your Friends gets better again, with the introduction of a Critical Hit DLC pack and the launch of Speed Golf.

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MediEvil 2 Remake May Be Shadow Dropped At PlayStation Showcase/State Of Play In May 2024

A remake of MediEvil 2 may be getting shadow dropped at the rumored PlayStation Showcase or State of Play presentation in May, 2024.

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Relientk7719h ago

What, I thought this was dead after Shawn Layden left Sony. I would definitely pick this up if it's true. I have such great memories of playing the MediEvil games on PS1 and I played the PS4 remake. Such a great and underrated series.

Cacabunga8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

A rumored game at a rumored show.. we’ve seen it all

TiredGamer8h ago

Agreed. The first remake was stylistically beautiful and a very noticeable improvement over the original in every regard. And it was reasonably priced and sustainably developed (i.e. not some mega big budget game that was do or die for the developer).

Zeke689h ago

Thanks for the spoilers... :(

RonnySins9h ago

Another day, another remake. Ugh!

SonyStyled8h ago

If you played the original print I can see your annoyance. I didn’t and probably a lot others the past 20 years.

Was it any good? Would you suggest playing the original print of 2, or suggest the remake? Just wondering because I didn’t play the originals as I had an n64 at the time

TiredGamer8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I played the first remake and absolutely loved it. The quality of life and control improvements were very noticeable. I tried playing the PS1 original and gave up halfway through at the janky controls.

Expect the same for part 2. The PS1 version is janky as heck, but I would gobble up an improved remake day one.

The beauty of this kind of stuff is that I find myself enjoying more retro gaming today, so a relatively low budget classic remake (call it a single-A release) is exactly what is missing from first party releases in the modern age. I don’t want every game to be an unsustainable AAAA endeavor that is just overwhelming in every regard. Truly miss when game releases could be modest-sized surprises and still be commercially successful/viable.

Bring on more quality classic remakes!

DarXyde45m ago

I can see your frustration and mostly agree, but modern remakes of games lost eras ago are fine if you ask me.

I don't know how old you are, but I was a kid when the first Medievil came out. It's really for a new generation of gamers more than anything and the industry is at a point now where there is an insane number of current gamers who missed out on those classics.

If we're talking about remakes of The Last of Us or remasters of GTAV, I'm in agreement. Otherwise, the choice to remake games like Final Fantasy VII, Medievil, Parappa, etc. are fair to me. Even PS2 era games being remade would be welcome to me. Often, the tech updates make it worth it.

Knightofelemia9h ago

Such a good series I also wish Sony would dust off Wild Arms and Legend of Dargoon even the Legend series needs to see the light again.

Omegasyde8h ago

My bets on new Socom and/or Wolverine (since Deadpool 3 is dropping in the summer).

I think one after this state of play will be PS5 pro preorder

InUrFoxHole3h ago

SOCOM! SOCOM! SOCOM!
But please not like Socom 4

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"Darkest Dungeon II" is coming to Playstation consoles on July 15th, 2024

"The Vancouver-based (Canada) indie games developer Red Hook Studios are today very happy and excited to announce that their roguelike /strategy/RPG “Darkest Dungeon II”, is coming to Playstation consoles (PS5 and PS4) via PSN on July 15th, 2024." - Jonas Ek, TGG.

TwoPicklesGood10h ago

Don't sleep on this, it's a great day

Michiel19895h ago

I personally didn't enjoy 2 as much as I did 1. Actually didn't even finish it.
I do praise that they didn't just carbon copy the 1st game and added more of everything, but I think that during the process a lot of what made Darkest Dungeon appealing to put a ton of hours in, was lost.

The new mode does look cool and I will definitely jump back into it and try it out.