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Driveclub and Forza Horizon 2 Should Not Be Compared: They’re Extremely Different Games

Comparing games can be fun, and there’s really nothing wrong with it when you pitch against one another two games (or two versions of the same game) that have enough in common to be actually comparable.

That's not the case with Driveclub and Forza Horizon 2.

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nicksetzer13551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

Both look good, but to say you "can't compare them" is absolutely inept. Other than one being open world and one a circuit racer, I don't really see how they are "completely different." Both are aiming for a social racing experience. Just because one of them offers much more content doesn't make them completely different. I would say cod and battlefield are more different than these 2 games and they get compared all the time.

@abriel everything you can do in driveclub is available in horizon. If they are SOOO different why is that? Also, you are talking about "graphics" people are comparing gameplay and features ... whatever floats your boat though.

EDIT2: So, despite horizon offering ALL of the same things driveclub has, because forza horizon has a larger content and feature list they can't be compared? Isn't that the point of comparing games? The point of comparisons IS to look at differences in games, yet you claim games having differences makes them unable to be compared. Like I said BF has larger maps, ballistic physics, no killstreak rewards, slower movement speed, vehicles, etc. Yet it gets compared to COD (and fairly so) all the time.

Abriael3551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

If you think two close level FPS are as comparable as two games one of which is open world and one is not, you're completely off mark.

Open world games are based on a completely different tech than closed level games, and require smaller assets for the hard disk to even keep up with rendering.

The faster you move in those games, the smaller the assets need to be, and the bigger the difference becomes.

"Other than one being open world and one a circuit racer, I don't really see how they are "completely different."

That's all the difference you need to set them completely apart.

@Edit: "everything you can do in driveclub is available in horizon."

That might be semi-true, but the other way around is undeniably false.

Darkstares3551d ago

Here's the issue, many Playstation fans and Xbox fans for whatever stupid (silly, ignorant, you name it) reason don't get along. That's why we get these dumb arguments all the time flooding the forums.

We can enjoy two different musicians on two different recording labels but for some reason that logic doesn't apply to games. We can go and see two different movies from two different studios but that logic doesn't apply if two competing hardware devices are involved.

I am looking forward to both games, which often seems like I'm the minority on this site.

Me-Time3551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

@Darkstares

Yes, there are people who hate one brand but love the other. But, that's not the point Abriael is trying to use in any way.

vishmarx3551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

theyre perfectly comparable.
dont let the article fool you.
i get this argument for games like gta vs uncharted.where gta is loading 100 npcs 50 buildings 30 cars real time weather effects all at the same time while uncharted has the liberty of a predetermined route and hence can load far higher quality of assets in the same memory.

but here
both have the same number of onscreen cars.~
real time weather
no flyable planes(faster streaming needed)
and roughly the same amount of area loaded in the memory at an instance
the only difference i horizon streams a smaller area at an instance to compensate for the open world while driveclub loads a bigger are beforehand.

but the fact is dc blows horizon's graphics out of the water so much that we need such articles for damage control.
also im not talking content or fun.
by that logic forza 5 vs dc is a better comparison.

FYI IF I WERE TO PICK ONE ,ID PICK HORIZON IN A HEARTBEAT.loved horizon 1 more than any forza game, so you know im not biased.
i say just what i see.ive confused several DC screenshots for real pics

Godmars2903551d ago

@Darkstares:
Let's see...

The PS/Xbox "war" first began when the PS2 handily outsold it's competition, which included first-time console maker MS. This likely inspired a more militant stance by Gates, included "indie" made fan videos about Sony going bankrupt when the PS3's price as announced, then went into overdrive, the levels we know now, because of RRoD. When people came into forums to troll and for help alike, only to be attacked.

Since then console "discussions" seem to be based more on feelings, brand loyalty, from the Xbox side, while the PS side possesses a bit of reason.

BG115793551d ago

Agreed. To me the only comparable game to FH2 is The Crew. Both are open world racers.

Darkstares3551d ago

Godmars290,

"The PS/Xbox "war" first began when the PS2 handily outsold it's competition, which included first-time console maker MS. This likely inspired a more militant stance by Gates, included "indie" made fan videos about Sony going bankrupt when the PS3's price as announced, then went into overdrive, the levels we know now, because of RRoD. When people came into forums to troll and for help alike, only to be attacked."

A militant stance by Gates? Hilarious. These 'wars' have been going on for decades. Nintendo and Sega for example. Difference is we didn't have social media like we do today but it's still basically the same thing, it's just gotten more vulgar because instead of saying in person people hide behind their keyboards now so they will say more ignorant things.

The reason why it's become the XBox versus Playstation is because those are the most comparable consoles. Nintendo has basically gone their own direction ever since the N64 and since then Sega dropped out.

"Since then console "discussions" seem to be based more on feelings, brand loyalty, from the Xbox side, while the PS side possesses a bit of reason."

What an odd take on the situation. Brand loyalty doesn't side with the Xbox brand. In fact more people jumped ship from the XBox 360 to the PS4 than the other way around. Loyalty is also very obvious when it comes to key regions like Japan. In fact I'd go as far to suggest loyalty is what got the PS3 through the tough times early on.

As for reason that's all based on person to person. We have seen many people on here who show no signs of reason from all camps.

The fact is this is all just silly ways to pass the time and when it comes to Driveclub and Forza Horizon 2 we see bias and loyalty from each side. Being reasonable would be open minded about both games, regardless of the platform they are on. Can you honestly tell me the Playstation fans are any more reasonable than the XBox fans when it comes to be open minded about both games? If you answer yes then it's crystal clear where your bias lies and all one has to do is look through your post history to come to that conclusion.

Dee_913551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

Just because one is open world and the other isn't, doesn't mean you can't compare them.They are both car racing games.Some people can't grasp the concept of comparing similarities it seems..They aren't "extremely different games " at all.They are extremely similar aside from one being open world.

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telekineticmantis3551d ago

Driveclub will be the greatest racing game of all time.
It has to be. When a great game like Gran Turismo comes out, with ten times the amount of content then any other racer, Nascar, offroad, sport, kart racing, over 1000 cars, fun side modes, weather, night racing, and an amazing feature like vision gt, which could trump most racers by itself. And xbox fans and journalists ridicule it for not having enough graphically enhanced cars, and funny sounding motors..Well that means that none of that stuff matters... So i present to you Drive club, it has the bestest graphics, and great sounding motors you could shake a stick at.

If you disagree with that, then make a choice, the greatest graphics, or great content and gameplay.

Me-Time3551d ago

I agree, but only because I love GT and only like Forza (even though I hate T10).

Team_Litt3551d ago

Quantity may not necessarily = quality but that in no way means lack of content is the answer. You are being obtuse.
GT5 had 800 ps2 quality cars and a hair dryer for engine sounds, how can you sit there and justify that lack in quality?

incredibleMULK3551d ago

"Bestest graphics"?? How about "worstest" English?? Lol

telekineticmantis3551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

Team Litt
EXACTLY! Thank you! That's why I thank goodness, we now have Drive club. I mean GT was reaching 300 premiums, close to the max any other racer, and was literally a racer you could play for the rest of your life, it didnt have enough good graphics. I played countless hours of GT, it had some of the best controls, but once i saw Forza 5, and its whopping 14 tracks, i sold my PS3. I had to decide... Everything i want from a racer or new shinier cars, SOLD! I picked shiny. ;)

telekineticmantis3551d ago

@Incredible Mulk
Yeah, there's thing in American english communication called sarcasm(dont worry, I struggle to grasp it‘s actual usefulness, myself ). You see sarcasm is a form of passive aggression, a facade put up to express the futility of the communicators opposing view. Funny thing, >aint it<(that last one was for your amusement, take that one with you, enjoy it for the rest of the day.;)

DOMination-3551d ago

DC only has 50 cars and a limit of six playersper club which is shoddy as hell.

But it looks great other than that. I'm getting both.

Team_Litt3551d ago

Forza launched with 14 unique tracks and 53 variations of those tracks with p2p, reverse tracks, ect.
Drive club on the other hand will launch with 5 Locations. Each with 2 x P2P, 2 x RC & 1 x RT. All P2P & RC are playable backwards, whilst RTs have 3 variations.
Those 55 tracks you keep hearing about are actually track variations and reverse tracks.
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MysticStrummer3551d ago

"Other than one being open world and one a circuit racer…"

That's a huge difference to me. Burnout Paradise was a good game, but I much preferred the older Burnouts on PS2. Open world is a very different style of game, whatever the genre.

"I would say cod and battlefield are more different than these 2 games and they get compared all the time."

Just because it happens doesn't mean it should happen.

Magicite3551d ago

I think u can compare the crew to forza horizon 2 and driveclub to project cars.

Back-to-Back3551d ago

You cant compare because of the fact that Driveclub is superior in every way. I am shocked people are excited for Flopza Horizon 2 after how terrible the first game was.

FanboyKilla3551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

if you compare them ones list is going to stop waaaaaaaaay shorter than the other. and we all know whos got the short end of the stick. thats why you are here right? when i found out dc was closed circuit i was out. hey doesn't ps plus get like 10 cars and 10 tracks for free? thats enough dc for me.

hey it may look better than horizon, but thats all you are going to get. thats their focus. not cars, not driving, not upgrades, not damage to cars, not customization, not racing, it looks pretty though. lol bet they wish they would have made that original release date now. oh yeah and it was free remember? then they hit ya with that premium shi*.

oh yeah lets compare the fact that horizon announced way after dc, but i have more info on horizon. if i was a betting man id say its already ova. just by the shakiness of dc development. lets be honest the graphics is all its got. have you seen anything different? all i hear sony fans say is it looks good. never it looks fun. good luck with that.

wtf is an arcade sim? i felt stupid just typing it. how can two words that mean the opposite of each other be used together. its not a sim. its arcade. the fact that is arcade stops it from being sim. you cant have your cake and eat it too.

DevilOgreFish3551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

"Driveclub and Forza Horizon 2 Should Not Be Compared: They’re Extremely Different Games"

no shit, Drive club is circuit racing and Horizon 2 is sandbox racing. horizon 2's map is also like 4 times bigger than the first game.

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XiSasukeUchiha3551d ago

One is open worlded the other is racing acrade sim, enough said!

Tibbers3551d ago

DriveClub and "arcade sim"? Don't make me laugh.

telekineticmantis3551d ago

Open world meaning what? Skyrim was garbage, so was twilight princess, so i have to understand why open world is such a key phrase for people. So open world._ meaning i get to cheat and cut across tracks, or meaning alternative shortcut routes, which we've seen in racers since the dawn of time?...

truefan13551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

Being completely honest this sounds like some damage control because in terms of content and features it's no contest. Being slightly different hasn't stopped people from making comparisons before, hell it was so bad people compared Titanfall to infamous:ss. If Driveclub had more than graphics people would be comparing the two to no end. All in all people don't want to compare the two because FH2 sounds like a much more complete game.

@OsirisBlack you are obviously trying to bait me, you know darn well DC does not have more cars.

OsirisBlack3551d ago

Absolutely incorrect people dont want to compare the two because Drive Club visually spanks Forza and it also looks to be a much more complete game. The only real comparison you can do for the two is graphically we already know DC has more cars and more true tracks what does that leave?

Kiwi663551d ago

LOL so 50 is greater than 200 how did you come to that conclusion

OsirisBlack3551d ago

Guess I should have put a /s at the end of this as it was sarcastic but guess it was not obvious enough.

SCW19823551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

If you would read a lot of peoples impressions you would realize that driveclub has more going for it than just graphics. Game informer said when comparing the two that driveclubs handling felt better. But of course you being truefan love to neglect peoples preview impressions. Your a joke to gamers everywhere.

MrSwankSinatra3551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

I guess forza 5 isn't a complete game when being compared to forza horizon 2 going by your logic.

Abriael3551d ago

Love how you completely missed the point, truefan.

user74029313551d ago

driveclub is a more complete game

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Mkai283550d ago (Edited 3550d ago )

Let's see, DC to have 50+cars, reused tracks, and weather coming sometime after? Yeah, it looks real complete. You fanbums are the worst, all you look at is graphics and say, Forza Horizon 2 has 1000 clubs, customization with 3000 layers on each side, 200+ cars, 3 times bigger then it's predecessor but so what? DC has better GRAPHICS so it's just better.

It's like picking a model to a pretty woman, the model is the obvious choice on the outside appearance but she doesn't cook or clean and is stuck up. The average pretty woman cooks, cleans, and is fun to be with. You fanbums just worry about if DC will be the RYSE of racing!

SG1_dapunisherX3551d ago

@turnfan when pplz on n4g was comparing tf and infamous sales shit was getting outta hand... I'm like woo both attract different audiences...

Xsilver3551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

then with your logic everyone should just buy GT6 since it's content galore and screw every other type of game gotcha see this is why you lost your pride.

johndoe112113551d ago (Edited 3551d ago )

Again you make a comment that makes as much sense as making a kite out of concrete.

What exactly is a "complete" game? Because one game has less content than another that makes it incomplete? Was fallout 1 incomplete because fallout 3 had 100x more content? Was mortal combat 1 on the super nes incomplete because it only had quarter of the moves as mortal kombat 9. And i'm using games here that can be directly compared because they are of the same series.

Because these systems are new and the devs have not fully mastered them there has to be trade offs. Either you focus on gameplay and graphics or you focus on gameplay and content. Driveclub devs chose to focus on gameplay and graphics. In doing so they decided to have less content than a game like forza horizon 2 but that does not mean it is an incomplete game.

I'm sure given another year or so they probably would have been able to put in a lot more content but then the game would have to be delayed even further. FH2 is a very good looking game but don't fool yourself, it is no where in the same league graphically as driveclub.

More doesn't necessarily translate to better. Case in point COD. Black ops 2 and Ghosts had way more content, customizations and features than MW2, yet, MW2 is considered by most cod players to be the best, most fun cod ever. Any simple internet search on the hundreds of surveys done would show that.

This "more content" false argument that you and a lot of xbox supporters on this site try to use is a figment of your imaginations and is an irrelevant point when taking reality into consideration.

WeAreLegion3551d ago

Even if Driveclub had one million cars, ten million tracks, and every feature you can possibly dream of, Truefan would find a way to say it sucks. This isn't about quality for him. It's about Xbox and Playstation. Stop comparing these games.

y7jzdgy3551d ago

Hmm.. seems like you're describing the average Sony fan.

WeAreLegion3551d ago

Fanboys, in general. They're all pretty bad, dude.

telekineticmantis3551d ago

Soooooo, great content equates to great game, so Gran Turismo is the greatest racing franchise of all time...Thank You! Its about time somebody admitted it.

Revengeance3551d ago

Then let's compare Forza 5 to GT6. Guess which one is the complete game? I'll give you a hint: it's the one that DOESN'T have a crowd full of stick people.

ziggurcat3551d ago

@ treufan:

"Being completely honest this sounds like some damage control because in terms of content and features it's no contest."

oh? so you've played, and have been able to delve deep into the content/features of both games?

"If Driveclub had more than graphics people would be comparing the two to no end"

classic truefan downplay... DC visually spanks forza, so that's all DC has going for it... gotcha. as it's already been pointed out, DC could have had a million cars, 2 million tracks, and *still* be visually more impressive, you would have found a way to downplay DC (my guess is you'd pull the "bu-bu-but FH2 is open world" card).

"All in all people don't want to compare the two because FH2 sounds like a much more complete game."

"sounds like", but isn't because both are complete games. throwing more stuff into a game =/= it's more complete.

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Ko_Uraki3551d ago

Driveclub is a fantastic graphical showcase and I will buy it, but Horizon 2 is my most awaited game.

CloudRap3551d ago

Driveclub seems to be the Titanfall of racing games. Yeah it looks great its just very barebones content wise.

Remy_Chaos3551d ago

There is truth to this but just as Titanfall, DriveClub should establish a solid foundation to build upon. Its up to the both developers but any sequel should be fantastic and content flooded.

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60FPS on PS5: Unofficial PS5 'FPS Boost' mods are radically improving PS4 back compat

Digital Foundry : Whether it's via FPS Boost or bespoke software upgrades, backwards compatibility on the current-gen consoles delivered an unexpected delight - the ability to liberate older console games from their 30fps limits, running them at 60 frames per second or even higher. FPS Boost did the business for Xbox Series consoles on an impressive range of titles, but there was always the sense that PS5 could do more. It's a hunch that checks out as a range of frame-rate unlocks are available for PS5, covering many must-have games - the major caveat being that only exploitable consoles running on older firmwares are invited to the party.

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darthv7294d ago

you love to see new life being breathed into older titles but damn the process to get there. It should be automatic that these work for everyone... not just those who exploit their systems. Really wish Sony and MS would keep this program going officially.

Psychonaut8594d ago

Damn this sucks. I want this shit so bad, but I’m not jailbreaking my console. And frankly I shouldn’t have to. I’m not a tech person, but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate? Or would that have to be a large patch?

dveio94d ago (Edited 94d ago )

"but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate?"

I guess it's not.

But it has become a profitable business if you do so.

So no one would pay for only the framerate patched to being unlocked. So studios need to offer more than that.

But this would take more time, polishing and would cost more money. So they shy away, but won't unlock the framerate, either.

That's just my personal assumption. But from what I can comprehend technically, it shouldn't be difficult to unlock framerates via a patch for older games.

... if it hadn't became a business.

RaidenBlack94d ago (Edited 94d ago )

frame-rate unlock should be free ...
We've seen many devs offer free patches and updates to pretty old PC titles, even bonuses ... so why can't devs offer the frame unlock patch for free (in consultation with the platform-producers) for a title from just a generation earlier?

Einhander197294d ago

RaidenBlack

"frame-rate unlock should be free ..."

Obviously the result of that thinking is that developers aren't even going to do it.

If they had been allowed to charge $5-10 you would see incentivized developers doing it way more often.

People just always want everything for free, but it's not free to make the patch, people have to code it then other people have to test it, and there will always be other costs involved.

If people want dollar store gaming then expect to get what you pay for.

shinoff218393d ago (Edited 93d ago )

Raiden I might be wrong but last I thought it cost money to put patches out on consoles.

As far as me paying for it, I'm not all that interested tbh. Not enough to pay for it with older games, and newer games have been pretty decent about it for the most part.

dumahim94d ago

Sounds like the modder has to go in to make changes to unlock it on a game by game basis. "Simple" enough to do it unofficially, but to have it done officially, they need someone to go in a make that change, put out a patch and put it through certification, which I believe is not necessarily a cheap thing to do. It's questionable if going through this would then give them enough sales to make it worthwhile.

Inverno94d ago

Many games still have physics tied to framerate, i think it's cause they wouldn't want to go in and do anything extra. Then there's the 10 dollar upgrades they rather charge. The problem is that there's no compromise, cause if I could mod my PS4 and all I'd lose is online play then id jailbreak it immediately. Mods have done so much for PC games and they could do the same for consoles, but manufacturers hafto be willing to compromise.

shinoff218393d ago

It's not to hard to do and there's youtube videos that break it down really well. ANyway most of us here arent able to break are console anyway due to being up to date on firmware from playing

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Chocoburger94d ago

Yep, this sucks having to require a jailbreak for something that should be standard in our industry by now. I learned my lesson when PS4 was jailbroken and I didn't keep a console on low firmware for years, but now I'm holding onto two low firmware PS5s specifically because there are features I'll be able to do that you can't do on official firmware, so this will pay off for me soon enough.

Jin_Sakai94d ago

It should be a sin to let these games sit and be stuck at 30fps.

EazyC94d ago

RDR 2 not getting a 60FPS patch for PS5 was a crime.

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Driveclub - Brutal Backlog

Driveclub was a headline game at the start of the PS4’s life. A fabulous game – eventually - but what now, with the servers turned off? Is it worth your time? JDR starts its engines in today’s Brutal Backlog.

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Abear21776d ago

Bikes expansion might be one of the most underrated games of last gen. Incredible driver and bike animations + DC weather is craze.

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20 Best PS4 Racing Games You Should Play

Cultured Vultures: We won't stop until everyone appreciates how brilliant Driveclub is/was.

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Terry_B1195d ago

Are there even more than 20?

purple1011194d ago

i went to the article and theres only a couple racing games, cant find the button to move page on through all the adverts.

purple1011194d ago

ah its changed to a video now, strange, but il take it

Dfooster1193d ago

Dirt rally doesn't even make the list? Errm OK then.

Driveclub is over rated as well, with middle of the road handling and the 30fps killed it upon arrival for me.