Jimquisition The Xbox One: A Lying Failure Machine

Piece by piece, everything that Microsoft intended the Xbox One to be has eroded away, revealing nothing but dishonesty and shortcomings beneath.

[All_Consoles]

What a click bait article. I'm damn tired of these self proclaimed journalists fanboying it up. It's disgusting and the fact people publish this on n4g is the opposite of discerning

[fonger08]

Meh, it happens every gen (since online so-called journalism has taken off). Unfortnately the fanboy wars fuel these sites and their click bait opinion(s) and from the looks of forums there's no slowing that down. It is what it is I guess, I just don't see them stopping anytime soon unfortnately.

[xHeavYx]

I'm tired of people calling other articles click bait just because the journalists have different opinions. It's like you can't criticize anything without being a hater or wanting clicks. He is basing the video on HIS opinion as someone who OWNS the machine

[JeffGUNZ]

@ Heavey

It's fine if one doesn't prefer something, it's the maturity and professionalism that is lacking in this writing. Look at the title; The Xbox One; A Lying Failure Machine". Really? You think that is a professional writing a title like that? Did you even see what he said? I don't care if people don't like something, but if you're going to be taken serious in the field of writing, as minor as this guy is, you should try to show some maturity. He appears to be a little bias, don't you think?

[Baka-akaB]

I dunno , i dont find it less professional that the amount of fake politeness and beneolvent attitude toward publishers and constructors from other outlet and "journalists" .

MS has been caught lying and retreating on their policies multiples times now . So i'd rather have someone genuinely a fan and gamer , react even immaturely , over bland sterility and acceptance .

Gaming journalism was already making tons of excuses and defense article , back in the day the Drm was a serious thing . They only switched their agenda when they saw that no amount of PR bull was going to sway an overwhelmingly antagonist gaming community from all brands and sides involved .

He's volatile and rude , but hey that the way he's always been . You dont have to like him , but dont pretend it got anything to do with branding , and that now he should change his tune , because he's now crapping on the xbox one .

[BlackTar187]

@jeffgunz

well was he bias last gen?

Last gen his opnion
360>>>>>>ps 3
this gen so far
ps4>>>>>xbox one.

Can he be bias with a track record like that or is he just calling it as he sees it from his own point of view?

Just cause he hates on one doesn't mean he's bias unless the people who loved him last gen for his pro 360 stance are willign to admit he was bias last gen?

[uth11]

I agree that "Lying failure" is excessively provocative to draw attention. And I say that as a PS4 fan.

[Kayant]

@JeffGUNZ
"It's fine if one doesn't prefer something, it's the maturity and professionalism that is lacking in this writing" - Right so what would you call it then based on the content in the video?

"He appears to be a little bias, don't you think?" Bias in what way? He has a style if you don't like it that's fine but what bias is being presented here exactly? He is calling out the promises that have been 180ed or axed by MS so far. Things that were presented as the core vision for XB1 at their reveal in May last year.

[choujij]

As someone who's always supported every console (including Xbox 360 on launch day), I can certainly tell you not all negative opinions about Xbox stem from fanboyism.

[darthv72]

Its a catch 22. if a company stuck to their plan then they would be labeled unfriendly to the consumer regardless of how things turned out.

when a company changes due to consumer backlash, they are labeled as having no direction or backbone to stand up for their product or service.

its a lose - lose situation. It happens.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

What's disturbing is this is like 10th Xbox bash article.

The backtracks are annoying.

Lying about what exactly?

failure. Failure because its not selling as much as PS4? I'd say they're failing at delivering some its promises for sure.

Something that I also noticed people seem so caught up on other aspects of Xbox and almost COMPLETELY ignore the games. That very one thing that literally everyone has been asking for.

It seems as if they bash everything else besides the games MS has coming for it.

MS shutting down its Entertainment studio is a big headline and a disappointment. But notice how nobody who writes these articles quotes Nadella's reasoning.

He did it to focus on gaming, core studio's and possibly even using the now defunct Entertainment studio into a AAA game studio. Nobody wants to talk about MS very healthy AAA games and better indies support. I thought it was about games?

People constantly magnify the negative aspects but completely ignore or choose not to talk about the games X1 has coming for it.

Every time these articles pop up I usually ignore them because I just think about how I'll be playing Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, Quantum Break, Fable Legends, Halo 5, Gears 4, etc.

[ZodTheRipper]

This is pure clickbait but you actually can't disagree with the facts that he brought up. Microsoft just continues what they did during the last decade, I still can't believe why so many people are falling into this.

[Kayant]

@AngelicIceDiamond

"failure. Failure because its not selling as much as PS4? I'd say they're failing at delivering some its promises for sure. " - And when did he talk about that in the video exactly?

"Something that I also noticed people seem so caught up on other aspects of Xbox and almost COMPLETELY ignore the games. That very one thing that literally everyone has been asking for.
etc....
"
Right and you seem to forget the promise of XB1 being an "All in all-in-one entertainment system" where is that vision now exactly? So basically you don't watch the video and just go along to how he's supposedly just bashing the XB1 when in actuality he is talking about the failed promises and decisions that have been reversed. Yes it's about games, it is also about entertainment for the XB1 which was a premier selling point as seen from it's slogan and reveal which is now gone with the closure of the studio made for said vision.

You can't exactly measure what will happen with the supposed refocus on gaming statement. MS invested $1 billion in game development how much has been used is unknown, how this development will lead to better focus in games cannot really be measured because well for one you cannot tell what stuff announced in future is part of this renewed focus or prior investment. If they XB1 becomes like the X360 after a few years of strong support then you have your answer.

[NatureOfLogic_]

I feel bad for the ones that bought Xbox One early or day one. They bought into MS vision of a console which has now been totally 180d. Now that Xbox One is just trying to be like PS4. I wonder how many Xbox One early buyers feel screwed and lied to by MS. After all, MS have told many lies yet still have mediocre sales and inferior third party games despite them saying things like "we'll never give up 30% power advantage to Sony" or "I can't wait for the truth to come out." Well the truth is here and PS4 is clearly more powerful as proven time and time again. How many people actually believed MS lies and bought Xbox One? There's no way MS can compete with Sony first party games and now with PS4 leading they can no longer afford third party exclusives like last gen. Xbox One is in a tough position, imo, It's very well deserved for MS extremely anti consumer drm, always connected and no used games attempt.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Kayant Yeah I was on edge after seeing http://n4g.com/news/1551882...

I thought it was just the usual Xbox bashing that goes on around here so I apologize for jumping the gun.

I should of expected more from Jim Sterling.

"Right and you seem to forget the promise of XB1 being an "All in all-in-one entertainment system" where is that vision now exactly?"

I just want it to focus on games. The All in one was interesting but they need to focus on the software at the end of the day. If not then why call it Xbox?

And yes the original slogan, marketing and selling point was the All In One I understand that. MS should of done a different approach instead.

I didn't watch the video I thought it was a usual bash article just like I stated above.

As for your last paragraph. I've debated that too many times.

Who knows, for the mean time I'll enjoy what's coming. If MS stays on track with the games like they are now I'll be a supporter. If they repeat the same mistake with 360 in favor of some of other quick buck gimmick then I'm out.

That's my stand.

[Baka-akaB]

"I feel bad for the ones that bought Xbox One early or day one. They bought into MS vision of a console which has now been totally 180d. "

Dont feel bad for all of us . I didnt put much stock into MS' claims , nor did i believe in the power of the clouds , stars and whatever .

I bought it solely to play the exclusive Xbox franchises i'm into , and potential new ones from a few studios .

That being said , even with a cynical outlook , and quite frankly no love at all for MS ... i was taken aback by how quickly they ditched Kinect and some other things .

I expected them to stand by Kinect , at least in a PR fashion , not by providing the "core game" kinect experience , some still hopelessly awaits . But by shouldering a cost they can absorb , and lower the price of the console to match the ps4 , while selling it WITH kinect .

It changes little for me , i'll just keep playing the XB1 franchises that interest me . Their image just got even worse , as far as i'm concerned , that is all .

[Eonjay]

He ripped into the Microsoft. But he was right.
Why should they be applauded for trying to unscrew up what they screwed up. Furthermore, they never admitted to being wrong or lying about not being able to remove Kinect, or that Kinect was here to stay, or DRM is irreversible, or that their system was underpowered. They never came clean on anything.

People, very simply, get tired of feeling like they are being lied to, deceived or condescended to (See Angry Joe's interview for what is perhaps the most dismissive condescending response ever from official PR rep.)

[gaffyh]

He's basically just saying what everyone is thinking, but what every journalist is actually afraid to say because they will look biased.

[xilx]

@Angelic

"Failure" is used in the video in relation to not living up to its suite of features from the console's initial reveal. It's in no way talked about in terms of sales, just the things that never came to be or features/policies that were changed. There was a vision MS had for the console before they revealed it to the public, and they failed to achieve that vision because they had to keep changing things due to a negative response from the consumers.

The "lying" aspect in the video comes from talk about things like kinect being an integral (the word he used in the video several times) or essential (the word MS has used a bunch) part of the xbox one.

[TheSoundDefense]

@JeffGUNZ

When they give an article an angry, inflammatory title (even if they believe it wholeheartedly), the opponents dismiss it because "nobody rude or inflammatory can be taken seriously/only biased people have strong opinions about things." If they gave a neutral or low-key title, the opponents would dismiss it by ignoring it entirely, because it's much easier to do. There's nothing this man could have done to make you actually consider what he had to say. Your mind was made up long before the video was made.

[Enigma_2099]

@Eonjay

No one cares. Simply because by proving his point, he s*** all over their precious XBox One. They don't care that he has a valid criticism. They care about that.

[DragonKnight]

Didn't watch the video did you? Jim presents CONSUMER based opinions, not fanboy based opinions.

[Godmars290]

No, sounded like mostly his own opinion.

This I say while admitting that it sounds very much like my own.

[DragonKnight]

Is Jim not a consumer like anyone else?

[Prime157]

Well, he expressed opinions that sounded like consumer opinions, not fanboy opinions, yes. However, I think it was more like frustrated concerns. Concerns that Godmars290 also has ("This I say while admitting that it sounds very much like my own.").

Microsoft's PR is one of the best, and many people buy into it, and that's a lot of what the video was talking about. Like the fact that we applaud their unscrewing ups while not saying, "Sorry, we were wrong." It just goes to show that the underlying problem(s) still exist.

That's why you have to vote with your money... Here's looking at EA next.

[GameSpawn]

I love Jim and Yahtzee from Escapist. Both of them (aside from their entertaining accents) say what we are all thinking. Yes, they have an opinion sometimes, but they are very clear when they are stating an opinion and a fact.

For this one video, Jim stated MANY facts concerning the Xbox One. When you consider everything Microsoft wanted the Xbox One to be originally to what it is now it is by all sense of the term a failure. Not one single "feature" of the original Xbox One vision remains intact. Microsoft has been forced to backpedal on every single vision they had planned.

Jim was quick to admit the need for the Xbox One in the market for the competition (competition is healthy in any market) and he hopes that for the developers' sake (those having games releasing soon) that the Xbox One rebounds.

I'm sorry if anyone is unwilling to listen to Jim all the way through and would rather stick their fingers in their ears and bury their heads in the sand and continue to think Microsoft and the Xbox brand are infallible. No human being or human creation is infallible. The Xbox One still has some strengths left as long as Microsoft can concentrate on making appealing games for everyone and concentrate less on trying to one up Sony (which is a one sided fist fight with Microsoft being the boxer with no arms).

Also people need to remember (aka forgive, but not forget) what Microsoft ATTEMPTED to do to them. You can STILL support Microsoft and the Xbox brand (hell if it has the games you like, more power to you), but don't let Microsoft walk all over you. Don't have blind faith in anything, let alone a freaking gaming console.

Now this goes to anyone (PC-fan, Xbox-fan, Nintendo-fan, or PlayStation-fan), if your choice of console has the games and value to keep you satisfied, then that is all you need -- you do not need to (or should) dictate to others what or why they should own your console of choice. You can tell them why you made your choice, but should also respect their own opinions and choice as well. Remember you can be a fan instead of a fanboy. :)

[DragonKnight]

@GameSpawn: Exactly this. +Bubbles.

I would also like to point out that people don't want to see the fact that Jim stated that he has hopes for the Xbox One's success, and that he's happy that it's now in a better position to compete, but his problem was that MS' original vision was stupid and that it's their own fault that they had to backpeddle, and that he's NOT going to applaud them for finally doing what makes sense and what they should have done from the start.

That's the right attitude. For him, it means that he's going to be extra cautious when it comes to Microsoft's products. It doesn't mean he'll be boycotting them and is telling everyone else to do the same.

[Godmars290]

@Prime157:
While MS's PR might be "the best" the issue is what they try to sell. That with Kinect it was all about "potential" which never manifested as much as it was insisted. Likewise the original DRM policies where more about benefiting MS than the consumer, would and will take years to properly implement, and MS couldn't both see the mistake they were making and the burden they expected people to accept.

[baodeus]

@dragonknight and others

go watch Jim other videos like "always DRM is dumb dumb dumb" or "Xbox one and the end of ownership", what are the things he is complaining about?

1. FORCED kinect (that he doesn't want)
2. He want console to focus on games only, not on other entertainment like TV and such.
3. DRM is dumb (only profit publisher and gamespot, and connection issues)

so now MS reverse all of that:
1. Kinect is optional
2. Gutted the entertainment department (tv exclusive contents) and focus on games instead
3. DRM was dead long before the console was release (24 hrs is dumb, but something like Steam would have work better)

so essentially, MS reverse everything JIM was complaining about and up in arms, with a knife in his hand no less, now he is bi#tchin that they fail to keep their original visions and lies? What does he wants exactly?

You guys don't think JIM has contradicting opinions? For a journalist who contradicting him self, complains about a product, and when they fix it, he complains about why they fixing it, can you really take him seriously?

Perhaps you are right dragonknight when you said Jim represent consumers, particularly consumer on this site, because you guys, just like JIM, don't really know what you want do you?

With that said, I give you guys credit for CONSISTENTLY nurturing hypocrisy and hates on this site. At least you guys are consistent at something, i can't argue with that. It is kinda sad to see n4g thrive on hatred.

anyone want to debate further, you are welcome too. We can debate all day long.

[GameSpawn]

@baodeus You completely missed Jim's point. He's not complaining that they left all that stuff out and being hypocritical. He's making a point that from the standpoint that Microsoft had to sacrifice every bit of its original vision (which he still didn't agree with) makes the console a failure - these are facts. The complaint is that Microsoft is not fessing up to those failures and lies and are sweeping it under the rug and Microsoft are touting themselves as heroes -- they are not.

Can Microsoft console still do well? Yes and Jim hopes it does for the sake of the game developers making promising games for it.

Also, you can't complain about Jim's earlier videos (made before Microsoft's reversal announcements) and twist his words around and hold them against him because again those comments about Microsoft's controversial policies were made before Microsoft completely backed out of them.

Take the blinders off. It's all good and well to support a company and it's decisions, just don't do it blindly.

[johndoe11211]

Funny, I've seen a ton of articles by this guy on N4G and never before has he been considered a fanboy "self proclaimed journalist". But I guess it's fitting now that he is criticizing the xbox one right?

[thorstein]

Wrong. He was constantly called out when he was on Destructoid. Just because he moved sites doesn't make him less of a sentationalist.

And if you think I am a fanboy, check my comments back to 2007. Nary a pro xbox comment.

[All_Consoles]

Look at my picture, why would you think what console he's criticizing matters

[BlackTar187]

No Johndoe is right. This guy made a living last gen talking up the xbox and down the PS3. Now he's changed his stance with the new systems and he's a click bait article writer.

The truth is he has always been seen 8 yrs ago but only now some people are seeing it and it's conveniently perfectly times with his talking down to the xbox.

[morganfell]

@BlackTar,

Are you saying the Xbox 360 was marketed EXACTLY like the X1? Did it ever occur to you he liked the Xbox 360 but not the X1 and what MS has done with it? Guess what? He isn't alone. There are millions of people that switched sides so far.

[BlackTar187]

Morgenfell

What the hell are you talking about?

I'm sorry i feel like you're not responding to me but someone else and mixed up names.

the point of my post was to point out how funny it is to see people accuse this guy of being Bias or click bait.

Since this gen is a PS4 one for him im guessing he's made a full circle and the people who stuck up for this guy last gen will now join everyone else who thought he was a flamebait writer 8 yrs ago.

I'm sorry maybe i'm jsut not smart enough to get exactly what point you're trying to touch on with inregards to my comment.

[SilentNegotiator]

Uhh, he's been criticized by a LOT of people and always has been. I didn't like a lot of what he said years ago, but as I started to get into Jimquisition (which existed before his move to Escapist), realized his brilliant satire (something that I actually feel has waned recently), and recognized his passion for the consumer over publishers, I've warmed up to him over the last 3 years or so.

But then with all of the SJW stuff and the waning funniness...ehhh, I don't enjoy his stuff as much as I used to. But I'll always respect the way he acts as a watch dog for gamers.

[ThinkThink]

He craps on PS just as much as xbox. It's a show for entertainment purposes. He's not meant to be taken seriously.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@John Well Jim Sterling is considered one the smartest all around in gaming.

Because what he is saying is ALL true.

And no I personally don't consider him a fanboy. But at the end of the day he and many others will just buy the games for the system hopefully enjoy them.

I'm not saying forget the crappy things MS has done this past year. The 50 backtracks in a row but there's one thing that affects me as Xbox gamer or a console gamer in general.

The games.

Everything else is bad news that doesn't affect me in any kind of away.

For example. When the 360 had no original games and milked the usual Gears, Halo, Forza.

But at the same time MS was reporting selling more in North America, reaching 60, 70, 80mill in sales, entertainment was most used on the console. Halo, Gears, COD sale crazy amounts on 360, Kinect the fastest selling device ever.

Ok all that's great but what about original games and content? See how its all perceptive at the end of the day?

[morganfell]

@Black Tar, replied under you to you but meant it above. Sorry about that. Bubbles for the error.

[Kayant]

At least first watch the video maybe and also this isn't an article.

If you look at what has happened everything said in here is based on the 180s which in turn where lies/promises that were largely not met.

Required kinect to function - Was a lie and was 180ed.
DRM was said to be not as easy as "flipping a switch" - Was 180ed after 25+ days after E3.
TV took the main stage in the reveal of the XB1 - Studio completely shot down.

His point is the XB1 revealed at May 2013 is a far cry to what it was said to be with major goals, promises not being met or completely reverse or axed.

[nypifisel]

And actually the bad thing about all this that some don't seem to understand is that all of this that now is not a part of the Xbox One forever damaged it with the design being compromised as a gaming machine, that's something they can't backpedal on and its something the Xbox gamer have to live with. I can't understand how people can defend them, YOU'RE getting the shaft cause of all this, and now the envisioned echosystem that made all those compromises forced no longer exists so we're just left with a mediocre console.

[SilentNegotiator]

He's just responding to the latest 180 by Microsoft...they shut down their Xbox Originals studio, which was supposed to define the Xbone as more than just a mere game system.

[No_Limit]

LOL, I check in to N4G a few days a week now and I see at the top of the list are either TLOU news from Dualshockers, Destiny is superior on PS4, or XB1 is a failure news. We can't really get legitimate news anymore about plain old games without any click bait heated debate. This site is becoming a joke and is overrun by a single fraction and I am finding more enjoyment in my games the more I stay away from here. smh.

[HeWhoWalks]

The site is overrun by a single "fraction"? I believe the word is: "faction". Either way, you only say that because, despite your "fair and balanced" claims, you're truly upset that the Xbox isn't the preferred brand (though I don't know where you were from 2006 to 2008, where it was anything BUT a fun site for PlayStation fans). Simple solution to your problem - stop coming here.

OT: I know Jim is quite the controversial figure, but it's interesting to hear what he has to say, whether I agree or not (was never a fan of his Heavy Rain review on Destructoid).

[No_Limit]

@HeWhoWalks

"Simple solution to your problem - stop coming here."

I already have, I post like 1-2 times a week now instead of 10+ posts per day...you are welcome.

"you're truly upset that the Xbox isn't the preferred brand"

LOL, nope, my preferred brand is the Nintendo at the moment because of Mario Kart 8 and Windwaker HD...I haven't even touch my XB1 or PS4 in over a month now..until TLOU HD for PS4 in 10 days and Forza Horizon 2 after that.

Good to own all my consoles...I ain't mad ;)

@Brutallyhonest below,

I never said anything regarding Jim Sterling. I am just referring to the chronic click bait headlines and "Xbox One: A Lying Failure Machine" is a click bait headline and shouldn't even been approved in the first place.

Say what you will but in order to not become the laughing stock of the gaming community, N4G needs to do better of revising the approval process and actually getting actual legitimate news and not these click bait headline news in the front page. Just my 2 cents.

[Boody-Bandit]

"This site is becoming a joke and is overrun by a single fraction"

Oh how the tables have turned. That is really what has a certain "faction" upset. By that I mean the opposing faction.

Seriously what is wrong with TLOU, one of the most awarding winning games in history being remastered, being plastered all over the front page of a gaming site when it's a week away from being released?

Do you honestly believe that the PS4 wont have some advantage with Destiny looking or performing better on their hardware vs the competition? It is the more capable hardware.

Jim Sterling didn't say the XBOX ONE as a console is failing. He said their entire strategy has failed and that MS flat out lied to the media and consumers hiding behind the whole, we are merely listening to our consumers without being honest an admitting they flat out lied.

Try watching the video. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Sterling he is a pretty straight forward honest guy when he gives his opinion and he doesn't pull punches regardless of the brand he is talking about.

If anything most N4G members thought he was a MS fanboy last gen. Is he a sensationalist? Yes. Fanboy or one sided? No.

"I am finding more enjoyment in my games the more I stay away from here. smh."

Please tell me you're not serious and honestly let what it written on the internet impact the entertainment value of your hobby. If that is the case than maybe you should stay off of the net altogether and you will be less stressed.

[Prime157]

I think the problem that you're having isn't the repetition... it's that you expect BIG news every time you check your twitter, your n4g, your ign, your (insert-any-website-here).

So, yes, most articles are filler, especially the "hot" ones. Maybe you could change your method of searching and engaging on N4G as it may lead to your stay here being happier (for lack of a better word).

[tiffac008]

Welcome to circa 2006-2008 the only difference is the shoe is on the other foot.

[slasaru01]

Ps4 is one game console. We'll be having TLOU headers for some more months assuring they managed to get 1080/60 in a last Gen port. And this is the biggest news in PS4 camp!

[djplonker]

Here is one of said lie's

http://www.cnet.com/uk/news...

Not to be trusted...

[cell989]

well well well..... crafty bastards with their PR talk, almost makes it sound so believable. Also it never even got close to a water cooler x)

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

I agree, look at your disagrees, and on other articles! This site is pro Sony "Mostly" and some articles, like this, are not worthy of Posting.

[harrisk954]

It is Jim Sterling. Jim Sterling, formerly of Destructoid, is a well-known, generally respected videogame journalist/commentator. People love him or hate him, but no one can deny that he speaks his mind. He was very very very critical of Sony and the PS3 last generation. He is a notoriously tough game reviewer and, I believe, more honest in his reviews. I don't always agree with him, but I always look to see what he has to say because he speaks his mind -- like the Simon Cowell of video games. That being said, just because his opinion is not yours does not make this "click bait." He stated nothing but FACTS in the op-ed piece. You may not agree with his conclusions, but the points that he makes for reaching his conclusions are FACTS, none-the-less.

[Codey47]

FACT=The bane of every overzealous xboner....this generation.

[slasaru01]

We will see more of such articles before the Xbox secondary launch. They just don't want a fair play, but that's OK. "where comes the pride, there comes destruction but wisdom is with humble"

[KINGOFTHEJUICE-]

The title is straight truth. Everything in the title became apparent before xbone release date, which is why I went from 360 to ps4. Best gaming decision I ever made.

[kenshiro100]

Maybe people should try watching the video instead of dismissing it as click bait.

[thorstein]

Maybe you should. Or at least provide a definition of the term "clickbait" so that we can see what definition you're using.

Ignore the Jimquisition part and focus on the headline itself: The XboxOne: A Lying Failure Machine.

Titles are certainly not immune to the report and claim of clickbait. That is why noncontributing zeroes like Jim Sterling write them. There is no other reason.

After watching the vid (before it was posted on this site) I knew it was just more of his "I loves to hear me talkz" garbage. In other words, it was nothing new. And, oh look, he called all 10 of his friends to come to N4G and click disagrees. (That number used to be 17 when he was at Destructoid.)

But no one on here (regardless if you like the video, Jim, or what he has to say) can defend that headline. In and of itself it deserves every report it gets.

But I watched the vid. Yawn inducing as it was, it contributes nothing to the discussion of MS's current console or what we already know.

[sweetSWAGGER]

Thorstein, clearly not enough people already know, because otherwise they wouldn't be trying to disregard his points as if he were wrong. What discussion are you referring to? All I ever see on this site are delusional fans trying to disregard any actual discussion from the rational fans.

Although I agree that a video/article's title is not immune to clickbait... the title has actual relevance to the points made in the video. Whether or not it's "clickbait" at that point is up for debate, but is nontheless beside the point.

"oh look, he called all 10 of his friends to come to N4G and click disagrees. (That number used to be 17 when he was at Destructoid.)"

seriously? I don't even...

"noncontributing zeroes like Jim Sterling"

Really? We're talking about the man who is constantly making a discussion out of legitimate problems in the gaming industry/community which never fail to inform the uniformed, make sense of any lack of sense, and ultimately force the community to address a sensitive topic and make a discussion out of it.

...At least, I see that everywhere else. On sites like N4G, however, I just see responses from people who didn't even watch the video, being corrected and criticized by the people who did.

(well, that and they know they can't refute the article/video's points, so they'll attack the article/video's credibility and presentation.)

Oh, and come on with Jim being a "zero" garbage. Not only is the man adored by hundreds, if not thousands, of fans, but his opinions and articles actually incite responses from major figureheads in the industry. Meaning: he's one of the few "zeroes" who's voice actually carries weight; weight that even MADE a game's success once. I'd say someone's anything but a zero at that point.

Not directly in response to you, but something I'm noticing quite a lot in this "console war" are gamers who are labeled fanboys of something just because they say something bad about something else. Just how backwards is it when the so called "PS4 fanboys" are the ones who have to demand a better, more consumer-friendly product for the Xbox faithful? THAT'S PRETTY FLIPPING BACKWARDS.

[SnakeCQC]

Dude I'm sure many people had the intention of buying a xb1 before the reveal and piss poor drm policies. I usually buy all the consoles available throughout the gen but ms's policies and bs has turned me off buying their stuff ever again. As jim said correctly people DON'T like being lied to.

[fermcr]

"... people DON'T like being lied to".

Did Microsoft lie? They were going to implement their original policies from the get go and talked about them. Everybody knew from the get go how the original Xbox One's policies were going to be. You can disagree with their original policies, but you can't say Microsoft lied about them.

Microsoft changed their original policies simply because of popular demand. If you consider that lying, then so be it.

[SnakeCQC]

@fermcr They had obnoxious people like majornelson saying they couldn't stop the drm etc and just flat out lying saying it was impossible and integral to the way the system worked.

[DealWithIt]

Nothing this dude said in this video is untrue

[MasterCornholio]

I can understand why some people dont like him because of his sensationalism. But he's not lying at all in this video. The truth can hurt sometimes which is why some people are attacking him. Anyways Jim wants the Xbox One to do much better so they can provide good competition in the market. So in the end he's only criticizing what they did in the past but he knows that Microsoft can change things for the better.

[ABizzel1]

@All_Consoles and the people who eventually read this

The whole console war thing has been here since Nintendo vs Sega, and continued with N64 vs Saturn vs PSOne. But back then we didn't have internet users and trolls running around giving easy access to their spitefulness, or simply trolling for hits to their so called "journalistic site".

One day we had to plan a party for school, and our theme was "Teen Club". So the first thing someone said is they were bringing their Xbox. I had a Xbox, GC, and PS2 at home, so since they were bringing the Xbox I said I'd bring the PS2. Immediately I was bombarded with fanboyism:

Them: (laughter) Why do you have a PS2 it can't get online.

Me: Yes it can, I play Socom online all the time.

Them: Well it's only two players.

Me: No it's not, I have the multi controller adapter and I play Twisted Metal and Time Splitters all the time.

Them: Well the Xbox has better graphics.

Me: It should it came out a year later, but the PS2 has more games.

Them: Well it doesn't have Halo *walks away*

I had never experience fanboyism before, and I was shocked that people actually gang up and attack and criticize something they obviously don't know anything about.

What that all boils down to is that this generation is starting off just like the last generation of consoles. People were bashing and hating on the PS3 left and right early on about how it was weaker than the 360 due to poor multiplats (although proven to be false), complaining it had no games (which was a complete lie), and they were saying it was overpriced (and it was traditionally speaking, but Blu Ray players were also $400 - $500 at that time).

The PS3 suffered early on in it's first 2 years until Sony proved the power of the console, got online up to par, dropped price down to the $300 - $400 range, and had plenty of exclusives and equal multiplat support. Once there was nothing to hate on, the media and developers stopped their hate campaigns, and fanboys went away for the most part (except the sale number trolls).

[ABizzel1]

Unfortunately the XBO is in a similar situation this generation. But I have to say MS caused most of their own problems with their awful policies, all the bad mouthing (#dealwithit), and all the secrecy. Instead of getting a clear and pro gamer message in front of their audience, they let the media, fanboys, and fear get the better of their consumers and now it's an uphill battle for them.

The XBO isn't a bad console, it has some good games already, their getting their policies together (XBL is becoming more like PS+), they have their price at a better standard, and they're constantly working to fix their image (the XBO has the best exclusives campaign needs to go, and be replaced by something more modest & humbling). This is something that should be commended, but there will always be fanboys around to try and bring them down.

Personally, I do think they deserved much of this knocking, and hopefully they'll be humbled by it. It's good that gamers have a voice as a whole and can change things, because we don't want gaming to end up like ISP, where companies like AT&T can have a monopoly over a given area and charge whatever they want and hit consumers with all kinds of hidden fees like:
$5 per month for having your bill mailed to you instead of through email, which leads to a $30 restoral fee + a $10 late payment fee, because you don't know when your bill is due. $100 installation fee, for basically hooking up your modem, $100 leasing fee, $200+ moving fee, internet usage fees/taxes, and other ridiculous fees.

It's going to take another year or two for the XBO to fully recover from this, which generally happens to be when people are out looking for a second console. So if you don't like seeing this kind of news my advice is to take a break from forums and comment sections about gaming, because it's going to be everywhere just like it was last gen with the PS3 for the next year or so.

[gman_moose]

Every communication from Microsoft points more toward them being cocky and arrogant rather than humbled. You gave a perfect example with their best exclusives campaign.

[batbatz]

Dd you even listen to what he had to say?, he was quite reasonable

[Shadowstar]

Jimquisition as a self-proclaimed journalist fanboying it up? Yeeesh... Do you complain about Yahtzee/Zero Punctuation, too? After all, he came up with the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race silliness.

Thank god for Jim.

[Apex13]

Not sure how it. This guy has been a voice in gaming for quite a while and unlike most seems to be very honest.

[gman_moose]

So what did he say that was wrong? He was 100% accurate in his assessment of how Microsoft has conducted business since May of last year.

His beef is not with what they have changed, but how they have lied about everything that COULD be changed, and then acted like heroes when announcing the changes.

They really are a deplorable company- one I will never support again, but that's my choice. You are all free to make yours.

[_LarZen_]

It's not like he is making stuff up. All the crazy crap is stuff MS have done and are doing.

People in denial of that must have their heads pretty far up Xbox's rear end.

[bennissimo]

The only "lie" was what was told me when I preordered my X1 looking forward to their original digital sharing policy.

Bring back the original policies!!!!!

[HonestDragon]

"What a click bait article. I'm damn tired of these self proclaimed journalists fanboying it up."

I would agree with you on both points, but the fact of this particular video is that this is not a "self proclaimed journalist" who is "fanboying it up". Jim is very well known from Destructoid and Escapist Magazine. I have not once heard nor read him claim to be a journalist either.

Can his opinions be harsh in tone? Yes. Are his opinions universally agreed with? No. I like his videos and I have agreed with many of his opinions, but there have been times where I did disagree.

With this video and its subject, there are things that I do agree with. The Xbox One was touted as being the one system that you need to run your home entertainment needs. You can control your television and cable box with your voice through Kinect. You can multitask by watching your favorite football team while you're in an online match of Call of Duty. Xbox will provide original television content.

But we know that this is not the case anymore. Microsoft is now offering a Kinectless Xbox One at the same price of a PS4. This makes getting an Xbox One without Kinect all the better for people who were hesitant about it in the first place.

Microsoft has shut down Xbox Entertainment Studios, which is practically cutting 18,000 jobs in the process. One of the main features of the Xbox One has gone up in smoke. Most of those jobs that will be cut are from Microsoft's latest acquisition of Nokia.

http://www.bbc.com/news/ent...

http://www.digitaltrends.co...

http://www.forbes.com/sites...

Is the Xbox One an utter failure? Well, not really. In terms of some of the original ideas they had for it, yes, but so far it garnered success on the financial front and they have a lot of games coming to the system very soon.

In Jim's opinion, the Xbox One was built on lies and failure because of the cutbacks and backpedaling. He is essentially saying that up until now the Xbox One has grown with a legacy built on those lies and failures. He even says near the end of the video, "I'm not saying that impunes the quality of its game or makes it a worthless machine. But I'm saying I'm not about to praise it for doing the bare minimum required to maybe provide a worthwhile purchase after chatting s*** for months and months". From this view, it sounds like buyer's remorse mixed with anger.

[lifeisgamesok]

These "journalists" sure are trying hard to damage Xbox but it won't work

Xbox One is fantastic

[thorstein]

You don't have to be an xbox fan to recognize flamebait.

[pyramidshead]

Haha, zing!

[johndoe11211]

They don't need to "try" to do that. Microsoft did a pretty good job of that already.

[Ballsack]

Microsoft damaged xbox all by themselves

Xbox one has a nasty stigma associated to it since its reveal hence all the 180s, despite the now removal of the kinect (yet another 180 in a very long list of 180s) its still getting outsold...that is not journalists fault.. But microsoft themselves

Its great to see microsoft trying to undo the damage though ..I give them kudos for that and for some of the great games on the horizon

[JeffGUNZ]

Truth be told, outside of the "hardcore" gamers that post on sites similar to this, no one knows anything. I am still waiting for my best friend to upgrade to a X1, the only reason he didn't is because he booked a 2 week west coast trip and needed to save up some money. Almost all my friends who haven't upgraded yet have no idea about the changes Xbox has had. All they know is it's the new Xbox console.

We are the minority on these sites.

[ThinkThink]

@JeffGUNZ

I agree, it's kind of funny. Sometimes we forget that outside of this little bubble nobody even knows that this "console war" even exits. We're like a secret society of idiots.

[Kayant]

"We are the minority on these sites." - Well we were big enough to make some noise for them to reverse the Requirement for kinect to function
DRM well maybe more so to the pre-orders
Headset pack-in

Probably something else. Point is we are not as minor as you think(thought as much before until after seeing how companies reverse their decisions). Also I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people still don't know of the 180s yet.

[Ballsack]

@Jeff your right... and what you don't realize is that is exactly what is hurting microsoft

Because the reveals of both consoles were mainstream.. They were in publications that don't normally report on video games, the reveals were everywhere..

What isnt everywhere is all the 180s from microsoft so parents still think alot of the draconian ideas that microsoft stupidly tried to enforce are still present.

Microsoft have only themselves to blame, they really tried to screw gamers over with the DRM measures they had.

Its going to be hard for microsoft to come back from this.. But atleast they are trying..

[ThinkThink]

@Kayant. Main stream gamers have NO idea about the 180's and they probably never will. Our voice is the strongest at the start of a new generation because we're the early adopters and we're the only ones spending money and speaking up. The sad fact is that our voice becomes less impactful, the more mainstream gamers get onboard. If mainstream money is pointing one way but our voice is pointing the opposite direction, mainstream is going to win every time.

[tiffac008]

Don't forget guys, our little bubble consist of millions of gamers around the World that spreads the word of mouth on which gaming platform/games are the best to buy (for every generation) and our opinions will hold some weight to those people who has less knowledge but are interested to buy.

So our "society of idiots" has a lot of purchase and swaying power in the end. Don't be little the entire gaming community for a byproduct of competition.

[SonyNGP]

Jim calls out on bullshit. If you don't like his style, then that's your problem.

@system22

If you really think I give a damn if someone bashes plastic, then I've got news for you c:

[system22]

ill be sure to look for your comments the next time some "journalist" bashes the ps4.

[kenshiro100]

^
Except that this wasn't bashing. It was just something none of you wanted to hear.

[DLConspiracy]

^ Except its been regurgitated over a thousand times in a thousand different articles. The only thing this opinion rant brings new to the table is the part about Xbox entertainment being closed. Only Jim doesn't even bother to bring up why. I am pretty certain this had less to do with the Xbox division and more to do with the new guy in charge of MS. I can almost guarantee you its Nadella (Head of MS) trimming corners and making way for his new regime. Which of course makes it look like an Xbox decision. After all Phil Spencer only confirmed this and never announced it.

[slasaru01]

Jim has to go into the politics and spend his truth revealing talent to bring to the light the politicians. Wait... He might be suited then... I guess no choice but staying with games and NFG

[Volkama]

Hmmm I talk to my XBox quite a bit, and it has never lied to me. It quite often ignores me though (Xbox on. Xbox on. Xbox on? XBOX ON).

[rorytmeadows]

Learn how to do it correctly then you may not have that problem.

[Volkama]

Learn how to say "xbox on" correctly? If there is any learning involved in that then the failure is worse than I realised, that would mean the whole concept is bad...

[uth11]

see? it failed to lie! It really is a lying-failure ;)

[Catoplepas]

Like it or not, he's not wrong.

[Anon1974]

That's a matter of debate, but that debate isn't happening. It's something that so many are on here already, denouncing the article, denouncing it's author, but no one is willing to take on what he actually said.

If you don't agree with his opinion, or think he's overlooked something that negates what he's said...why not speak up! I can understand people finding this article inflammatory. He's Jim Stirling. Inflammatory is his thing. But can anyone point out where he's wrong? Can anyone point out flaws in his logic that he's based his opinions on?

Usually when someone doesn't have an argument, you can tell when they attack the person speaking and not what was said. Why aren't those that feel Jim is out of line refute his points?

[thorstein]

You mean his rehashes of the same tired stories about X1 and what MS promised? While I chuckled like a mad fanboy in glee when my beloved PS4 was revealed at E3 2013, I hardly find anything he has said contributes to the discussion in anyway.

As I've said from the getgo when I called him a noncontributing zero (see report).

But if you think the guy is anything but flamebait, please, watch the video, perhaps many times and listen as he states at the beginning about how he causes controversy.

Did you miss that? Maybe Nintendo's E3 Presentation that begins with Reggie Fil Aime using Super Mario style fireballs to torch Jim Sterling who's sitting in the front row acting as he always does: like a big, fat troll.

[Anon1974]

So, to recap, you don't agree with his opinion because it's all old news and that somehow negates everything he has to say. Got it.

[system22]

is this for real? this is a joke. do these people take themselves seriously?

[troylazlow]

is this a joke article?

[Anon1974]

Doesn't appear to be. While his presentation is a bit over the top, can't really fault the points he raised which are the basis of his opinion. Not off the top of my head. Can you point out where he's wrong?

If you disagree or find fault with his logic, why not share your thoughts. Or if you choose to overlook the points he raised, why not offer your opinion as to why? What's the worse that could happen? An actual intelligent discussion might break out?

[troylazlow]

"An actual intelligent discussion might break out?" --- not on N4G look at the disagrees I got just by my comment.

[jcnba28]

I got no hate towards Xbox fans but he's right. What Xbox One is now is nothing like what it was supposed to be. DRM was removed, Kinect was removed and now Microsoft TV Studios closed down.

This isn't necessarily a bad thing though since it has made the console more of a gaming machine instead of a media box.

[Wingsfan24]

Because people didn't want what it was "supposed to be". How is that a shortcoming whatsoever? Microsoft did what they had to do to stay competitive. I don't see the issue here. Money will always come first for a company like Microsoft.

[iceman06]

I five FULL props to MS for adjusting on the fly and trying to remain competitive. However, the shortcoming is that the system was DESIGNED with all of the above in mind. A little market research, or just checking how it fared for Sony, could have hinted that gamers aren't really interested in the "all-in-one" approach. Plus, it's hard to message that so that the core gamers feel appreciated and the more casual gamers feel included. I know that MS thought to themselves, somewhat arrogantly, that they could do what another company couldn't. But, now they see that it isn't easy to please everybody all of the time. It's the core that rally for you. It's the core that spread the message to the rest. If THEY aren't all in initially, then you are in for some rough times.

[Baka-akaB]

It's not necessarily . But it shouldnt be a surprise to see how it resonate within some people . They had little choice on the matter , but it does send the message that MS isnt trustworthy at all and will change things on the fly and according to the market .

Of course the other two will react accordingly to the market , but we've rarely seen so much flip flopping from either of them on a same console .

Some still hold a grudge about the lack of commitment to the 360's core gaming aspect , at the end of the cycle too .

[brotherlymoses]

Recent post on N4G- "We don't like the Ps4, we just hate Xbox one"

[Wingsfan24]

They had lans for the Xbox One, peole didn't like it and they were losing sales so they adapted to make sure they're getting those sales. What's the problem there?

Seriously, I usually like Jimquisition stuff, but this was so one sided it's ridiculous. So now that Xbox owners didn't get the features they DIDN"T want, now it's a shortcoming? Smh.

[nategrigs]

But its reasonable to assume that early xbone adopters did buy into the original vision. I'm sure there are many xbone owners out there that are upset about the Kinect being taken out or the TV stuff closing down. Those guys have every reason to feel lied to

[Wingsfan24]

I got the Xbox One on day one and have been covering it as well. I didn't feel lied to, and more so bought the console for the games, which I think is safe to assume that's what most people bought it for.

I don't think Microsoft intentionally lied, and it was more so just a very bad presentation of the console. Mattrick was screwing things up, and getting rid of him was the best choice Microsoft made for the console since its reveal.

I don't think we should be knocking Microsoft so hard for trying to do something different with the console...now it's just ANOTHER game console instead of trying to advance things. All the changes happened not because Microsoft couldn't deliver on them, but because people didn't want change.

They never even got a chance to introduce those features and all these outlets saying they "backpedled" is a bit unfair imo, because they did what the consumers wanted.

There's issues on both sides, but this video sensationalized the situation as usual.

[JBSleek]

MS was in an unfortunate situation with Xbox One. You either "180" your plans or face your investment crumble when the Xbox One doesn't sell.

That being said where Xbox One is now is strong and together with their many partners and developers Xbox One is ushering in great experiences that can only be found on Xbox One.

E3 was a strong base and selling the Xbox One without Kinect has seen double growth in sales so far which doesn't look to be slowing down at all.

Xbox One is proving to be the premier place to play games this console generation.

[funkybudda]

great experiences that can only be found on Xbox One? LOL. Most of the games you can get cheaper on PC and even an average hardware spec can run better than what Xbox One puts out. Stop lying.

[JBSleek]

My friend don't worry. No one can stop PC gaming domination. I am talking about consoles only at the moment.

And with that being said Xbox One is the place to game if you love gaming on consoles. Great exclusives with exclusive content to boast, Xbox One is the destination for console gamers.

Xbox One is the culmination of great hardware, innovative software, and world class service.

[MysticStrummer]

"Xbox One is the place to game if you love gaming on consoles"

If you love XB exclusives more than anything else, sure.

"Xbox One is the destination for console gamers."

Console gamers who love XB exclusives more than anything else, sure.

"Xbox One is the culmination of great hardware"

Great hardware that's not as good as the main competitor's, sure.

[user7402931]

but i thought pc was the premier place to play games? i mean it does 1080p 60 fps on all games right? or does this apply to you when mentioning the xbox one but not ps4?

and as a metter of fact when it really boild down to it wouldn't the ps4 be the place to play games if you love gaming on consoles since the multiplatform games perform better on ps4? and since ps4 has more exclusives?

no seriosuly...is the ps4 complete crap in your eyes that you downplay the living hell out of it in every single post?

[JBSleek]

Your statement doesn't make sense and shows that you lack reading ability.

I said console gaming. You can only play certain great games on the Xbox One.

Also why would I play multiplatform games on PS4 if I don't even on the Xbox One. That's why there is PC.

PS4 isn't completely crap I just think the first compelling game on that system isn't coming out until Bloodbourne.

[Majin-vegeta]

Jeezus christ you might as well apply for the PR department for MS.

OT:The X1 has lost it's identity it's like it got amnesia or something.

[JBSleek]

I know you may be concerned that the Xbox One team has lost their vision but I can assure you that this isn't the case.

I can admit that the road to where they are now was bumpy, I don't fault you for feeling that way but there is tangible evidence that they are building something truly remarkable here.

Great world class hardware, innovative games that capture the imagination, and monthly updates showing their dedication to making sure Xbox One is the premier place to game on consoles.

In the coming year MS will show you why you should choose them. It is a platform for gamers. Their dedication to this cause is unwavering and great games together with Xbox Live will make sure you and your friends are enjoying this generation of gaming.

[Kayant]

"E3 was a strong base and selling the Xbox One without Kinect has seen double growth in sales so far which doesn't look to be slowing down at all" Well July NPD will be interesting to see.... I personally say it will decrease. The increase seems more towards people waiting for it to be available in june as announcement was in May and May was a bad month for XB1 as we have seen but we will soon which is true ;)

"Xbox One is proving to be the premier place to play games this console generation" - For some sure for 7m others it's not .

[SilentNegotiator]

"Xbox One is ushering in great experiences that can only be found on Xbox One"

When did you get the PR job? No one talks that way unless they're PR or fanboys who want to be PR.

[JBSleek]

I can assure you that I do not work for MS. What I'm talking about is real, tangible evidence that MS is building something truly special here and with the help of millions of dedicated Xbox fans this is only the beginning.

Xbox One came together due to MS love for gaming and with great services such as Games with Gold, Deals with Gold, Xbox Live, and seemless intergration into MS cloud ecosystem it's clear Xbox One is the place to play.

If that doesn't convience you let's talk about some of the upcoming innovative titles only on Xbox One.

Crackdown- A coop game that, thanks to the cloud is ushering in great destructibility

Quantum Break- A truly innovative game that merges great narrative from game and TV.

Halo 5- The continuation of one of the greatest stories ever in gaming and with the world class hardware powering Xbox One will be rendered in native 1080p/60fps.

This here is the reason to get an Xbox One.

[SilentNegotiator]

Oh yeah, that post assured me that you're not PR or wannabe PR. /s

Do we even have gameplay from ANY of those games yet?

[Kayant]

@SilentNegotiator

Loool ikr.....

Firstly let's look at your *evidence*

"seemless intergration into MS cloud ecosystem" - Apart from automatic cloud saves that is nothing seamless about 2 games out of 50+ having dedicated server support.

"Crackdown- A coop game that, thanks to the cloud is ushering in great destructibility" - True we have yet to see this running in the game environment all we have is a tech demo so far nothing effort for real evidence.

"Halo 5- The continuation of one of the greatest stories ever in gaming and with the world class hardware powering Xbox One will be rendered in native 1080p/60fps." - About that it's only confirmed to be 60fps.

[ssjkiet]

The fact that you actually wasted the time to type this.... Shouldn't you be playing on your first class all exclusive machine you're hyping all up? FOH.

[Subaruwrx]

OMG! Not just commenting on this remark but your other remarks like this: "Xbox One is the culmination of great hardware, innovative software, and world class service;" and, "Xbox one is proving to be the premier place to play games this console generation" WTF! Are you a PR shill for MS? While I don't agree with Jimquistion that MS was lying, it has become obvious by their subsequent 180's that their vision for the console as an entertainment hub was ill conceived and that anybody who bought into that vision got screwed. Their vision resulted in the Xbox One being underpowered and has meant that MS has had to abort this vision by disconnecting the Kinect and closing down their entertainment studios. Your remarks are irrational and reveal you to be an apologist for MS.

And oh by the way Mr. PR Shill, yes the Xbox One did double May 2014 sales in June 2014 but its May 2014 sales were pathetic and the PS4 still outsold it by 72k units in the June's NPD. Furthermore, your statement that the X1's sales aren't slowing down was pulled out of your a-s.

[Clunkyd]

@JBSleek
What a bunch of lies lol

Go play your simulators, dude.

[spaZzin856]

Are these the onl articles this website has what happend to actual video game news that got you excited for an upcoming games.

[rorytmeadows]

DISHONESTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Stop with the personification of companies. They aren't your friend that slept with your girlfriend behind your back. They are a business.

[solidworm]

Sterling is by far the best games journalist out there. He got an ounce of bias in his body and he nails it massively this week. Microsoft lied on an industrial scale with the xbox1....LIVE WITH IT. Brilliant piece Jim!

[Mikefizzled]

He trash talks instead of articulating his actually valid points. But he isn't acknowledging Microsoft conceding they were wrong on several occasions and instead he ploughs ahead into the next insult. Selective hearing helps paint anything badly.

[Imalwaysright]

I agree with pretty much everything he said but I'll still have to buy one to play Quantum Break and Scalebound because they're made by two of my favorite devs in the industry.

[GundalfDeGrej]

Oooh you just know this story is going to be on the top of the page soon.

I applaud Jim for speaking his mind without sugarcoating anything. Personally I'm not too bothered about Microsoft's "180's" because sadly, I've come to expect this from major game companies (MS are definitely not alone). Right now I don't care what they say or what they do as long as they can deliver a functioning system with good enough games to warrant the price tag. You simply can't lie about those things. Unfortunately that's kinda the mentality that allows big companies to get away with these statements in the first place.

[Sayburr]

The video said Microsoft lied in regards to "always online daily check" (DRM), "Kinect can't be removed", and "All in one entertainment"... But, I am not sure that was intended lies or if it was more of a vision that the consumer didn't want... Kinda like "new Coke" for those old enough to remember that fiasco.

Still, in-between all of the unnecessary “F-bombs”, the points he made are valid in the way a lot of the consumers see the Xbox brand now-a-days. All-in-all, the company is doing exactly like Coca-Cola did all those years ago, fixing the mistakes that they can.

[ncc-017]

There's whining and then there are legitimate complaints. Many of the points he brings up are legitimate complaints. Microsoft lied to the early adopters by making a big deal out of Kinect and how it was INTEGRAL to the experience when they knew all along Kinect could have been made optional and consumers could have been given the choice. They scammed 5 million people into paying a premium for a worthless peripheral, But hey it's just business right? disgusting is what it is. Microsoft is not getting another penny out of me.

[JMyers]

Last Gen Jim was very pro Xbox, and preferred the 360... Was he being biast then?

MS should be called out. Their mixed messaging to consumers, the constant back tracking, telling people they need something when they don't, or really even want it?

It's people's opinions that Jim is talking about. Not to mention the Cloud and DX12 claims.

[gamer7804]

Jimquisition is just an editorial. Although he does try to make light of his stance to make it feel more appealing to those who might have opposing opinions. I applaud him for being straight to his audience and his bias against Xbox One. He's not wrong in what he says but what it means I do disagree.

To me this makes a more nimble, audience centric microsoft who is now hungry once again to make the best console it can. MS has quickly listened to customers and has released a staggering amount of improvements to is OS that has pushed its OS beyond its competitors. Sure it's not quite as powerful as ps4. From a graphics standpoint but MS has been pushing it hard. It's almost like betting in horses. The strongest out of the gate usually doesn't win, although winning matters little to me in this case, I'm excited for games on all 3 of the consoles.

[georgeWbush]

f

[Predaking77]

Like it or not, what Jim is saying is true. It has been a lying fest since the reveal of the Xbox 1. So many lies that even Microsoft contradicted themselves many times.

You don't like your console being critizice I get it but what that video says about Microsoft is all true, don't know how people still want to defend Microsoft after that. Fanboyism I guess.

Edit: last gen Jim was a heavy pro Xbox guy and no one call him a fanboy and now he has the balls to speak the truth about Microsoft and he suddenly is a fanboy.

[btk]

MS has a history of being liberal with the truth and spinning weaknesses using PR talk...
Remember the HD-DVD vs BluRay?
After losing on every spec Ms just stated that it is a "better value proposition"...
Remember how they denied the RRoD?
And if you know some more of the history not console related...
DR-DOS... where they had to eventually pay out due to the sabotage...
And Blue Mountain where they caused the competition cards to go into spam...
And the IPX/SPX drivers for Novell Netware when NT was launched... it kept on re-installing the slow MS IPX/SPX drivers to make Netware look slow...
read the Halloween papers on their strategy vs Linux... and their incessant FUD comparisons...
And remember how they claimed IE could not be removed? Sounded exactly like the same argument they used for Kinect...
And on Kinect... seen a good game that was not a dancing game?
And Milo....
The list goes on and on....
No wonder this gen it caught up with them. They have a massive credibility issue on their hands. And with their dishonest corporate culture who knows if they will ever be able to address it.

[Clogmaster]

Interesting to see what their practices are outside of the gaming division.

Same crap everwhere.

[Odoylerules000]

Actually, did you guys who disagree with the video actually watch it? He makes some good points...

[SpiralTear]

Jim mostly criticized Microsoft and the fact that they lied about the Kinect being mandatory and TV being essential to the system's image, when they clearly weren't. He actually said that the system itself is decent and it's likely to sell okay.

[CaptainKILL]

This is just par for the course for the Jimquisition the whole point is to make a big deal out of something, that's his style. It's why I don't see a point to argue with him.(well that and I mean come on he does have the pink tie from China)

As for people saying you can't be a fanboy of PS4 if you liked the 360 sorry but you can change sides whenever you want this ain't a blood oath (unless your Mr.Uchiha :P) if the rhetoric that Sony or MS spews is good enough for you have at it. Neither side are going to tuck you in with a bed time story, (well Reggie might try to do that) and save gaming from the other's tyranny because neither are trying to ruin it.

[SpiralTear]

I knew this Jimquisition would be a hit on N4G the second I saw the title. That's a big shift in tone for Jimquisition, since very few of the other videos in the series ever hit even 50 degrees.

[brainfart]

Its ok for this site to have multiple positive articles about tlou even if most of them pertains to resolutions or a song from tlou played on a violin lol thats all fine and dandy, but I notice since I've been on this site(1yr) that every time there's a positive xbox one article(1080 destiny) sure enough its followed by a negative one(this article).This is not coming from a fanboy just someone whos very observant I'm all about games no matter what system, but this site makes me want a xbox one seriously this is coming from someone that games primary on pc!

[turdburgler1080]

You made a valid point but we're then given three disagrees. If it wasn't for the chance to pickup on a interesting article I would never use n4g.

[brainfart]

I agree that's why i visit this site i find great articles every now and then,but the fanboy crap i can do without.

[stiggs]

Here is an interpretation of the events laid out in this video. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely intentional.

Microsoft: We present you with a new machine that plays video games which also has TV integration, original programming content, game sharing via DRM, and a Kinect motion sensor.

Jim/Any Entitled Gamer: We don't want any of that stuff! Just give us games.

Microsoft: OK, here is the same machine, minus Kinect and the other extraneous features, which will now function primarily as a gaming device.

Jim/Any Entitled Gamer: Hey MS, you took away all of that other stuff! You lied about the relevance of the aspects that we don't care about! We demand an apology! (foot stomp. foot stomp)

[Rob_Ko]

I don't usually like the guy, but it's hard to disagree with him on this topic. I will never forget bullshit Microsoft tried to push their customers.
Never trust the monopolist.

[Gore-Content]

Genius this guy. Love him. Not so much when he bashed the PS3 for no reason though. But this time he's right.

[Goku781]

I admit PS4 is my favorite console but we play everything at my house but Xbox One. The majority of people can't all be fanboys just because they view it as a failed system. There is a reason so many Xbox Ones have been traded in.

[lemoncake]

Microsoft had been trying to jump into every possible bandwagon that passed buy, the xbox one reflected that. At least now it is getting back on track with some good decisions being made.

[rwallace]

Why do people listen or watch this guy? These videos are nothing more than a ploy to get traffic. Uggggg. I know he has fans, I just cannot understand why.

[McScroggz]

It is interesting to see how different sides perceive these changes. On one side are those who are very cynical towards Microsoft because of what they tried to do with the original vision of the Xbox One and the changes that have been made aren't out of the kindness of their heart but rather made out of necessity because of the pressure Sony and the PS4 put on them. On the other side you have those that either don't care why the changes were made or they believe Microsoft is now listening to its customers and trying to make them happy.

I suppose one could look at what the console offers now and nothing else. It has some good games. It has some good games releasing later this year and the next. There does seem to be a focus on games now.

For me, I need Microsoft to earn my trust for me to invest in their console/ecosystem. Don't get me wrong, it's not based on principle (though I'm fine with those that stand on principle), but rather I only have so much money and I think the PS4 and Sony is a much, much better bet. I hope Microsoft learned their lesson and they will continue to put the fans in mind first and it leads to a fantastic next console.

Until then, I do think some are way too easy to forgive and forget.

[DivineAssault]

The guy has every right to be upset & rant his opinions.. Especially if he was an early adopter of the console.. They forced kinect on people then got rid of it like nothing.. They also sold people a false dream of exclusive tv & digital media exchange that will never happen.. They couldve at least gave the people who bought the console early some type of apology or free digital gift for ripping them off

[Artemidorus]

Xbox screws up people moan Xbox make fan based changes people moan. This console is doomed because of ill educated people.

[dreamed]

Had to sign up and chime in on this one,Ive never heared of this guy but my god did he crack me up.

I just watched some of his other vids and apart from the weird shit at the ends the points he makes about ubisoft,EA,preorder and the entire game industry,are what ive been feeling for years,check "an industry of pitifull cowards" that sums up the AAA games industry in a nutshell imo.

The last 6 years have been shit,what with ubisoft destroying tom clancys name and Capcom squeezing every last drop of what made resi good out,ive not really liked much since splinter cell chaos theory,tbh.

Also I would like to point out ive been playing xbox now since it came out in the uk,my xboxlive sub is about to turn 10 years in a few months,i haven't owned a ps for that long to,and this is the first time in thoses 10 years ive decided to just leave it silver.

E3 was so bad imo from MS point of view,games like ori and the blind forest and inside,sunset overdrive just looks like tony hawks with guns,cant stand the look of it I never liked halo either,titanfall just looks like run n gun casual garbage to.

Anyway ive still to buy into next gen,never owned 2 consoles of the same gen at the same time,tbh it would cheese me off if one of them ended up collecting dust.

Probably gonna be one of the ones that jumps ship in all honesty,but yeah just had to say after hearing all the fanboy accusations flying around,that I feel the same way.

[shadyiswin]

i think it's funny that the xbox one is a lie machine when the ps4 still doesnt even half the features promised from e3 2013 amd they are not even coming soon! just the typical PR TBA nonsense. What happen to all that exclusive talk? over 40 games in production? told you it was mostly vita games lol. Lets see,we can run down sonys 2013-2015 list

2013
killzone
knack

2014
infamous ss
mlb the show
the last of us remastered
little big plant 3

2015
the order 1888
bloodborne
uncharted 4

9 exclusives in 3 years so far

microsoft has nearly doubled that number

2013
forza 5
dead rising 3
ryse

2014
titanfall
kinect sports
forza horzion 2
sunset overdrive
halo collection

2015
scalebound
crackdown 3
phantom dust
fable legends
quantum break
HALO 5

Thats 14...

Keep in mind i left out zoo tycoon,dance central 4,killer instinct seasons 1 and 2,super time force,ori and the blind forest,disney's fantasia,project spark,cuphead,D4, i left out 10 more games! i left more exclusives than they half cobined for 3 years,seriously sony? soon you wont even be able to beat the 720p dead horse,also tell me how he xbox one is capable of upscaling to 4k and the ps4 is not? How is next month xbox one will be able to play 3d blurays and the ps4 still cant and its there damn technology? lol the ps4 is a bore and marketed to do much when it does very little. The xbox one has grown into a beast,dont let them enable family share....sony will be a sitting duck.

[fullmetal297]

He made honest points on why the Xbox One is failure. The console initially was going to be an always online DRM console that was centered around the Kinect. All this backpedaling MS has done and the dramatic changes they have done with the Xbox One to keep their consumers has shown their hypocrisy. This is primarily the reason why I switched to the PS4 last minute.

But also to be fair, Sony has done some really messed crap to their consumers as well. Like for instance, the PS4 initially didn't include any DLNA streaming whatsoever and still lacks this capability to this day. They never included that detail at launch and this decision was an obvious ploy to promote their newest paid Unlimited streaming service which is a dirty move on their part. This choice wasn't due to the lack of capability, because the last generation consoles and Xbox One are DLNA capable. The disability of external drives just pour salt to the wounds, officially confirming this choice.

The biggest backpedal Sony has done now is they are now attempting to charge their consumers for backwards compatibility with their PS Now service. They could have thought of a more cost effective solution to give gamers back their backwards compatibility. Like instead charging consumers to ping back bandwidth-heavy game data to and from a sever that is probably a good distance away from your house, why give the gamers the option to stream that same game locally from a PS3 on the same LAN via Remote Play? They already have the UDP protocols in place so why not choose that option? I don't care if this is a PS Plus only feature it will save me and every person a boat-load of money because you are not being forced to pay a subscription and the fear of going past the 100GB data cap from streaming GBs of data out of people's mind. This is once again another attempt force a some kind of charge from something that can be practically fixed.

I'm not trying to pick Sony because Microsoft has done some equally, if not, worst crap to their consumers. I bought a PS4 thinking Sony was all about "choice" and "they are for the Gamers", yet they are trying their hardest to force all these subscriptions on me by disabling standard features like DLNA and external hard drives. This feels personally for me like a stab in the back and I hope Sony will fixed these issues.

[Peternorth]

@ iceman I was replying to someone about sony not being about greed but u wanna block so I can't reply to u. It was not a shot at the article I never said that Sony lied about anything.

[urwifeminder]

Cool story still will never own that Sony nonsense.

[Petebloodyonion]

The piece is well written and put to light some real bad trends in the gaming media.
Let's call a cat a cat. The facts brought by Jim are true and saying that the current xbox one is built on lies isn't saying that the system can't produce or won't have great games.

But the Ms's tree hiding the real forest that is this trend being now global.

Sure we can call Ms liars about the DRM but what about all the 3rd party before that who used to agonize in all media about how second hand market were killing them? It's funny but Gamestop isn't the big enemy anymore.

Or the new trend about big games being push back to the next holiday years ( all major game of this new generation).

Again, good article by Jim but we should be vigilant about the whole industry and not just MS.

[josephayal]

good job jim nice article

[Neo_Zeed]

Definitely not a Catch 22. Nobody forced Microsoft to have such lame policies like DRM. If Microsoft actually listened to consumers (Kinect failed before Xbox One arrived) instead of trying to impose it's will on them... they wouldn't be in this position of needing to flip-flop and continually lie. I normally don't care for Mr. Sterling. He is right on this one though. MS tried to impose it's will on the consumer and failed. Now it's desperately trying to save face. MS should just apologize for trying to dictate what we want. If they believed in "choice" why wasn't this choice available from the start?

Just google search Microsoft's relations with developers and you'll see they have a history of trying to dictate policy to anyone they deal with. They thought that could do the same with consumers and they found out wrong. If they never tried to implement horrible and anti-consumer practices then they would never have to reverse such decisions. The fact they even had such decisions in the first place just shows their anti-consumer mindset.

[donscrillinger]

Xbox One is Phenomenal .its truly next gen

[zod]

Articles like this helps small sites alot..It increases their traffic which also increases their ad revenue.. Now Xbox fanboys will bash the journalist and PSfanboys will defend him...

You guys are the reason sites like these post such flamebait article...Ignore them

@Predaking 77

Sony also lied alot last gen..PS3 was revealed as All-in-one super computer with backward compatibility nd all..But Sony slowly slowly removed everything to compete with Xbox 360...Sony secretly removed Dual OS feature & Backwards compatibility with a patch update. What you have to say about that?

Just compare the features of launch PS3 with PS3 slim...Launch PS3 had backwards compatibility, Micro-SD support, Dual OS nd lots of other media functionality and PS3 had nothing..It was just a gaming device..Same thing is happening with Xbone now..Phill is trying to turn Xbone in a pure gaming device and still you guys are complaining ?.lol..

Atleast MS is openly telling everyone what changes they are making to Xbox one..They are not hiding anything from fans..

Companies change their policies according to market demand all the time.. Get over it

[zod]

Jim is known for posting flamebait stuff...He is by far the worst journalist in entire industry...

[OiNioB]

N4G Lives off of this stuff it's so funny.

The need to justify ones purchase by degrading anyone who does the opposite has never been so ridiculously blatant before in console wars history such stupidity from a brand loyal community.

[Alsybub]

It's incredibly frustrating, N4G is an excellent site for a constant stream of news but the number of biased opinion pieces really muddies the waters.

You can tell that it's no coincidence because they all seem to balance heavily to one side. If something negative is mentioned somewhere about a certain console then N4G will have the original story or two that mention it and then a slew of sensationalist, clickbait, opinion pieces from obscure outlets talking about it over and over again which blows everything out of proportion and is plain miss-representative.

On the other hand if the other system, which this site clearly favours, has a negative story it will be linked to once or twice, from the big outlets, and then that's it, it's over as it should be. No clickbait opinion pieces, no sensationalist headlines and no obscure sites that no one has heard of putting in their two cents and cherry picking the facts.

Ye, I will still visit this site every day to read the news, because it's so much easier than trawling through every gaming site.

On that note, is there another site that does the same as N4G but isn't weighted in any particular direction? A little more objective.

[fossilfern]

Exactly. Its been like this for a long time, but its not only this site. Its hard to find anywhere to a have a discussion as my opinions dont normally conform with the majority so I get voted down and no one pays attention.

Apparently you are not allowed to have a differing opinion on the internet.

[Alsybub]

@fossilfern

I basically find that I'm shunned for not picking sides and wanting to appreciate all gaming platforms so that I can enjoy any game that I like the look of.

Other people tend to ignore anything I say on here and I can only put it down to the fact that I don't get involved in abusing other people for their tastes or the products they buy.

[dreamed]

after watching most of his vids through the night I gotta say I agree with most of what he says.

He reviewed a few games I like quite harsh but everyones got an opinion, and entitled to it they are of course.

The AAA games industry has been so scared to make a good survival horror,that we're only just seeing a good looking one come to consoles now,"the evil within" imo looks awesome,Cant wait to play outlast.

He said things like "publishers/devs moaning about singleplayer games are are completed and traded so quick,while at the same time trying to sell you ways to finish games quicker with microtransactions".,talk about WTF?????

I know he spews profanity and understand there are a lot of wet blankets that find it sooo offensive,which makes me laugh that people get so offended by words..lol,but the points this guy makes imo say everything that is so wrong with gaming today.

He accused ms of behaving like old men trying to act cool for the kids with the reveal of xb1 by using words like snap and trendy every other word,which made me laugh out loud coz that's exactly what I thought back last year.

Anyway flame bait or not this guys got loads of good points imo,and by the look of it others do to.

After being with xbox for the last decade I can say after all the crap ms have tried and spewed over the last year,they have totally killed any respect I had for them,which in all honesty was never much...just took preference to there controller over the ghastly dualshock 3.

[Tedakin]

Yeah MS has 180'd a lot, but what do you expect? What they wanted to do wasn't working or selling, and being constantly attacked. They were left little choice but to change.

[VP37]

Yes! Another hate article about Xbox by someone who doesn't use one on a daily basis!

MS screwed the pooch at E3-2013...yes, we get it. Dead-horse beaten.

MS has done nothing but try to redeem themselves and make consumers happy since then...let's crucify them for it!

Tons of great updates, with more coming on a monthly basis. Great games and great features.

E3-2013 was the best thing to ever happen to Xbox. It's been nothing short of a renaissance for Xbox/MS and Xbox gamers.

This attack everything "Wolf-Pack" mentality of gaming journos and gamers, is killing gaming. Look at the new Doom game; the devs don't even want to show early footage, because they know the "Wolf-Pack" will attack and tear it to pieces.

The whole gaming community has become really disgusting.

[xDHAV0K24x]

don't quit ur day job! ;)

[Father__Merrin]

Microsoft xbox one is an all in one entertainment system, the one console that does it all

[dreamed]

Jurnos arnt killing games,the devs and publishers are doing that themselves,with only the balls to make cod and all the clones it produces,along with all resi games and Clancy games being totally stripped of what made them great in the first place.

Without these guys n gals more devs would get away with selling us even more broken rubbish than they already do.

All imo of course.

[MadLad]

I like Jim, but all this is doing is digging back up the dead carcass of a system that never was.
The Xbox One is proving itself a solid experience.

[ToneDeezy]

Easily Jim's worst video yet. Microsoft didn't LIE, they were wrong. Learn the difference.

For example: "Kinect is integral required for the experience". When people shit on it, they went back to the drawing board and completely changed their vision. It wasn't a lie, it was a mistake that they corrected.

What would be better? For them to stay the course on a product that was getting almost universally panned? Give me a break.