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Nintendo has Billions, Multiplayer in Zelda U?, Shovel Knight is a Winner – Week in Review 6/28/14

Welcome to the latest edition of Nintendo Enthusiast – Week in Review. Join Shawn Long as he breaks down all the Nintendo news of the past week including Nintendo sitting on billions, Shovel Knight being awesome, Multiplayer in Zelda U, and much more. Be sure to check out the Retro Game of the Week and stick around for a very special ending as well.

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Metallox3580d ago

But it's losing money, so I'd be worried :D

ptownjbo3580d ago

Not sure if joking or not....

Cindy-rella3580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

I know in this day and age that speaking the truth gets you massive disagreements even when it's not meant to disparage but to carry on conversations.

Nintendo has billions and they made a lot off of the wii. Fans such as myself supported them and they made a terrible gaming system with the wii u with terrible game support. To each there own but the wii u is a waste of time and doesn't deserve to be supported. Other game companies make better systems with a lot of gaming support bringing out a steady stream of games.

Nintendo makes a weak system with terrible controls with barely any game support. The wii u is only being supported by 1st party companies with barely any 3rd party support. The wii u is a waste of time to core gamers. The fanatics can buy it and wait months and years to play something compelling

The disagreeing fanatics are at it again but I welcome the disagrees . These fanatics prefers playing mostly mediocre games or the waiting game. The vita isn't selling well even though it's a very good system. The wii u isn't selling well because it's rubbish.

herbs3579d ago (Edited 3579d ago )

Really Cindy-really
You sure like the word fanatic and apparently you're fanatical about hating video games. That is the only logical conclusion you can get from your extremely biased rant that contains no substance. Like how are the controls terrible could you explain maybe? Is it the superior D-pad or being able to choose between motion controls or traditional ones? Is it because the controllers don't have pointless light bars that reflect off your TV screen and hemourage battery life? Mediocre games only do you not read reviews do you not care for great gameplay? I don't understand how someone who is obviously passionate about gaming writes comments in gaming message boards can have such a narrow view. All I can say is it must suck to be someone who has a hobby but can't enjoy it to the fullest because of their own mental blockage. You need to get over yourself and broaden your horizons...

randomass1713579d ago

@Cindy-rella Actually Wii U is having a much better month in sales right now, mostly because of Mario Kart. Your comment is also full of other inaccuracies. Nintendo has some third party support with games like Bayonetta, Devil's Third, even Disney Infinity and Skylanders. Also "bad controls"? I don't think you've ever used a Wii U.

wonderfulmonkeyman3580d ago

A lot of its money has likely gone into their recent expansions.
Remember that Retro got an entirely new building and they've even opened up another HQ?
They're likely hiring a lot of people as well, for new projects and the like.
The huge advertisement campaigns they're running for MK8, and planning to run for future games, have also probably taken a toll.

All in all, the losses will be recovered and make dividends for Nintendo in the long run.

Dan_scruggs3580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

So your worried about Sony then? Right? Nintendo's losses are in the hundreds of millions but Sony's losses are in the Billions.

Concertoine3580d ago

Its important to note that SPENDING money is not the same as losing it.

Companies have to spend money to make money.

Metallox3580d ago

They're spending money on Wii U, isn't that the same to losing money? #BaDumTss

Ok, ok, I'm calming down myself, no more ridiculous comments for a while.

modesign3580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

nintendo is spending the money and not making it back. thats the problem.

Concertoine3580d ago

@modesign

Their software almost always returns a big profit, but it cant do so until the game arrives on shelves. They've also been making tech aquisitions and heavy advertising that'll only benefit in the long run.

randomass1713579d ago

That makes a lot of sense actually. Nintendo has made a number of large scale acquisitions and are approaching new methods of advertisement. Not to mention QoL is probably an investment in and of itself. They will probably see some hardship for a little while and then get profitable returns in the years to come.

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hduce3579d ago

Actually, they are the only company out of the big three that their consoles are being sold at a profit.

LOL_WUT3579d ago

That's a lie Sony recently said they just started making a profit for each ps4 sold don't know about the X1 though ;)

hduce3579d ago (Edited 3579d ago )

@Lol_ Wut I'm pretty sure my statement said consoles as in every system the company makes is profitable. I have a hard time believing the PS4 is profitable for Sony this early on. I'm not sure about the Vita but I know Nintendo now makes a profit on the Wii U and every 3DS variant it sells. Nintendo rarely takes a loss on hardware. The 3DS was their first system in a long time to do so which they resolved that quickly. The Wii U followed at being sold at a loss but they fixed that as well. At the next quarterly meeting, I can Nintendo returning to black.

randomass1713579d ago

I believe the PS4 is being sold at a profit or at the very least a minor loss so it makes its money back on software. Wii U is somewhere in the same boat where it's taking a minor loss and making back on software. After Mario Kart 8's success, I don't see Nintendo taking a massive loss at the end of the fiscal quarter.

hduce3579d ago (Edited 3579d ago )

The information is available to be searched that the Wii U is being sold at a profit and has been for a few months. That is why they refuse to do a price drop. Add this to them being able to move some units with Mario Kart 8 and I can easily see them making a quarterly profit.

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N4g_null3579d ago

Buildings cost money. Development of games that are not crippled upon release cost money. Advertising cost money. Combining handheld and console cost money.

Throwing some chips in a box and slapping your brand on it is cheap. The power of the wiiu gpgpu is in how you really can create your own graphical style. Yet we all know the xbone and ps4 will not surpass what it can do now. They are both using the tech wrong. That will continue though. You can't port tech from the current pc market to the ps4 and xbone unless you simply make inferior pc games.

Also nintendo has the better assets. They make actual games. It's almost like sony knows they can get their gamers to keep buying story based games rather than game play based games.

What happens when nintendo goes out and buys a mature gritty studio who can produce great game play?

Then you have real rpg being made like x, last story, pans tower, zelda, and 3rd party support like fatal frame. Very solid games like shovel knight. Actual support of their innovation with real games.

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Summons753580d ago

Zelda should NEVER have online or voice acting. We don't need crap shoehorned into an amazing single player experience. That being said, I did enjoy the streetpass battles on A Link Between Worlds and the Tingle Bottles of Wind Waker HD....that should be the only intrusion of multiplayer on Zelda U.

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DivineAssault 3580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

They know how to make money... If they lose out for a while, its no biggie... Gamecube didnt do well yet they still survived w/o a scratch.. they can lose the console war for many more generations to come & still be fine financially.. However, that doesnt mean companies LIKE losing money so theyre going to keep pushing for the best...

I trust that nintendo will make zelda & all their other titles JUST FINE.. I have yet to be disappointed in their work... Best devs in the industry are on their team so whatever they do will be cool..

LightDiego3580d ago

Shovel Knight looks great, i will try it, but i can't stop playing Mario Kart 8. :3

leahcim3579d ago

is shovel knight exclusive to nintendo?

CloudRap3580d ago

(generic nintendo doom and gloom/sony superiority comment)

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1012d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref2d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde2d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19722d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville2d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21831d 21h ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos1d 20h ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai2d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref2d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan2d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0071d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19722d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref2d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde2d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19722d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier2d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto2d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21831d 21h ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto1d 18h ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman2d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts2d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts1d 7h ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 15h ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Looking Ahead: The Lingering Questions About the Next Mario Kart

VGChartz's Mark Nielsen: "10 years. It’s been almost 10 years since the last mainline release in the Mario Kart series. Mario Kart 8 came out for the Wii U in 2014 and became the best-selling game for the system by a sizeable margin, and later pulled the same magic trick on the Nintendo Switch under the stage name Deluxe. All in all, it's sold nearly 70 million copies over the last decade and is still selling like hot cakes to this day, so it’s no wonder Nintendo has been in no rush to replace it. However, with rumors of a new system being just around the corner, and reports a few years back that a new Mario Kart is indeed under way, it seems the era of 8 might very well be drawing to a close. It’s an exciting prospect to be sure, but after two Nintendo systems with Mario Kart 8 at their heart, a lot of questions remain about how Nintendo will choose to follow it up."

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Yi-Long4d ago

I hope they just keep building on Mario Kart 8; Add a track-creation tool, and probably open it up to more Nintendo IPs with new tracks and characters, so Metroid, Punch Out, Starfox, Animal Crossing, etc etc.

gold_drake4d ago

there wont be a new one until the switch 2 comes out.

nintendo needs their bangers early on

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel9d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger888d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing8d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS7d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder7d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21837d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.