Remaster Comparisons: GTA V's sparkles but why did The Last of Us bother?

Dealspwn: "As for The Last of Us, these videos just seem to confirm that all this release embodies is a way of marking time. That said, if they release it at a significantly lower price point than a full, new game, I'm fully prepared to eat my words. But £50-60 mark up for a year-old title with negligible improvements? Jog on."

[listenkids]

TLOU isn't £50-60 anywhere, it's currently £37 on ShopTo and will get cheaper closer to release. It's not hard to do a little digging before writing arguments on the internet, that took me 8 seconds to find.

[elazz]

Here in the well known webshops the target price is 49.99 euros. Which is 15 less than the usual newer games. You'll probably find it around 40-45 if you search well which in my opinion is a good price for newcomers as you'll also receive all the DLC. However I do hope that there'll be a digital discounted upgrade available where you just need to put the PS3 disc for verification

[Azmatik]

umm TLOU in Canada PSN store is 69.99..... I always buy my games digital and right from the PSN and for a digital re-master this price is insane!

[crxss]

Tlou will drop it's price significantly around the holidays. Maybe I'll pick it up around Black Friday

[miyamoto]

This remaster is for those who did not have PS3 that now have PS4s and wants to play this game. not 4 haters tho

[MWong]

I'm excited. I didn't pick up either of these titles last gen because I was saving up for next-gen. So I will be picking these up.

As far as the why is ND re-releasing TLoU, they say they've improved the game. I think we will have to judge TLoU-R once we see actual in-game footage. ND still hasn't let me down with any of it's releases yet.

[pwnsause_returns]

releasing TLoU on PS4 is good for ND...makes a perfect test run for what they want to achive with U4.

[Conzul]

After seeing the E3 trailer for Remastered TLOU, I'm no where near as impressed as GTAV remaster.
GTAV PS4 is a true remaster. TLOU PS4 looks like a normal port. Which is sad.

http://www.gamersyde.com/do...

[sonarus]

i disagree. TLOU developed for ps3. Uncharted for is for PS4. Going back and redeveloping a PS3 game for PS4 is a waste of time and resources in my opinion.
TLOU was a beautiful game. One of the best looking games on PS3. While some people who didn't have ps3 can enjoy it for those of us who already played this, for the minor graphical upgrade it doesnt seem worth it.

GTA on the other hand i haven't played so far more interested in that

[christian hour]

Go to the beginning of any console generation, and you'll see this happening. It's common practice so dunno why people are making such a big deal out of it, at least it's a quality game that supposedly 30% of the ps4 install base has never played, if you're opposed to it just don't buy the game and play it again on your ps3 or something, I have a good few 360 friends who were dying to play this game last year and now that they have ps4's they're delighted they get the chance.

Why would anyone think they're not worth the bother? Oh because they're fishing for hits and don't give a shit about discussing video games like a rational human being, woo, go game "journalism".

[Audiggity]

People just like to complain. It makes them feel important.

I've been an Xbox owner almost exclusively. TLOU: Remastered is likely going to be the reason I get a PS4 to sit beside the Xbox One.

The ability to played other exclusive PS4 games will be a nice bonus too.

[Guwapo77]

Because for a lot of people this may be their first gen change over.

Or they are simply doing this for hits as they have nothing better to write about.

[christian hour]

@guwapo77

Excellent point about it being some peoples first change over. Last gen was the longest one i've ever experienced. If someone got the xbox 360 as a christmas present in 2005, if they were under 10 its possible they dont remember much about the cross over, especially if it is their first console, they'd be 18 years old now and this would be their first big one I guess.

I've been gamign since I was 3 years old, since 1990 I've seen plenty of console gen transitions, its wierd to think that this is a lot of peoples first cross over, thatll be the case for a lot of people under 18 I guess. Hell there will be some 12-16 year olds who never knew any more than 360 and ps3. Now I feel hella old and I'm not even the oldest here by a long shot haha. Old Fogies, REPRESENT!

[starchild]

I'm very happy to get to play it on my PS4. I played it on the PS3, but once I started hearing rumors it would be remastered for the PS4 I stopped playing the PS3 version and didn't finish it. At least half the game is going to be completely fresh and new for me.

[DragonKnight]

"Go to the beginning of any console generation, and you'll see this happening. It's common practice so dunno why people are making such a big deal out of it."

Bzzzt. Wrong. How long have you been gaming?

[Guwapo77]

@ Chrisitan Hour - I know what you mean. Old heads unite! I've been playing since Atari 2600 and first game was Pac-man. Bought it at a yard sale for $5. Gaming for 30+ years.

Like Michael Jackson sang - You are not alone.

@ Starchild - I did the exact same thing. Probably not too smart but its worth it too me.

[christian hour]

@dragonknight

My first "console" was an amstrad, was born in to a house with a commodore 64, first real consoles were master system and a nes, I've been gaming for a while, 25 years now by my count (I'm 27) though those first few years I was still mastering motor functions etc.

And yes, there are re-released games on new consoles that i had played on older consoles months before, across every generation.

[UltraNova]

@ Christian

Hahaha I m 28 and started gaming since 3 when my Godfather got me the Atari 2600 for my 3rd birthday! Fav game was the Rabbit trying to get across the highway (some are claiming it was a man made up from 3 pixels :p)!

Happy times...Favorite consoles? N64 and PS1..by far! Back then we played real games not overpriced/hyped social experiences (multiplayer everything).

OT: If TloU is priced right around 40-50 euros (less is better of course but lets keep it real here) then its a very good deal for those who didn't play it mainly 360 and wii converts.

The reality from where I'm standing is that complaining for remastered titles is stupid, because nobody is forcing you to buy the damn game...choice people choice is good.

[DragonKnight]

@christian hour: Impressive. Then you should know that, no, in fact not every generation of consoles had remasters. Unless you want to stick to one specific brand, then I can name some consoles that didn't have remasters in their launch windows, at least to my knowledge. I admit that I haven't literally played every game in existence.

But what remasters in the first year did NES have? How about PS1? PS2?

I know SNES had Super Mario All Stars, but that was at least 2 years after the SNES was released.

The "in the first year" remasters are a new phenomenon and they are blatant filler games to take attention away from the fact that MS and Sony were just as unprepared for a new generation as Nintendo was, only Nintendo got the bigger flack for it because they released a new console by themselves.

[Keith22]

Thats where I am getting mine £37 is good enough for me as for GTA being £50+ exactly what the last two words say in this article "JOG ON"!

[scotmacb]

You know what he means next gen price are £50-60

[ravinash]

I think TLOU target is just to get to a new audeance of new PS fans who have just come over on the PS4.
I never expected this to be a major improvement seeing as it's still pretty new on PS3 and the games towards the end of PS3 generation are not far off from the start of next gen.

GTA was always planned to have a larger jump in graphics, thats why they held back with the PC version to come out with PS4 and Xbox One when they released.

[Magicite]

I was patient enough to skip both these games and now I will be able to enjoy them with next-gen glory.

[showtimefolks]

could we please let the games come out before we judge them? also both R* and ND have never let me down. so till they release something bad, i will always give them the benefit of the doubt

[BTBuck1]

Azmatic, well buying digital... that's your first mistake.

[Syntax-Error]

Was never impressed with the TLOU remastered.....NEVER. I laughed at idiots that said they would buy it. You would be absolutely stupid to buy a game you already own if the improvements were that minor. GTA V looks incredible though. That's a game worth reinvesting in. Not only because of looks, but also because of content. The game is more than a single play through. The last of us not only has ONE story, but a hodge podge multiplayer. Rockstar AGAIN has proved that they can push their limits and ND is showing us that they haven't mastered the PS4's power yet.

[ravinash]

"ND is showing us that they haven't mastered the PS4's power yet".

You do know that TLOU is just a remasters game where Uncharted 4 is their showcase for their work with PS4 don't you?

[Syntax-Error]

Absolutely. If you noticed YOU were the one bring up unreleased titles...NOT ME. My comment was about 2 remastered games and which company is utilizing the power more than the other. Always one in the crowd that can't comprehend a simple effing comment and try to twist it's meaning.

[elazz]

Well, what they mostly showed was pre-rendered cinematics. I expect the gameplay to now be really close to the cinematics in terms of graphics and obviously the framerate is doubled.

- Double Resolution
- Double Framerate
- Enhanced effects and lighting

GTA will remain 30fps (hopefully locked unlike PS3) and with a bigger team and budget they probably could add more stuff. In the end I think both did a great job

[SoulWarrior]

Not only this we haven't seen any in game footage of TLOUR yet, bit of a premature article.

[Conzul]

Um, yes we have.

http://www.gamersyde.com/do...

This is 90% cutscenes, but there are some shots of in-game moments (like the attack on the checkpoint in the beginning, or the sinking bus from the end)

[SoulWarrior]

@Conzul

I meant a full gameplay demo/reveal, not a few snippets from the E3 trailer, we haven't seen enough to say don't bother with the upgrade yet

[Syntax-Error]

Stop reaching CAPTAINSELLERS. None of those titles had real gameplay, but it was obvious which company paid more attention to detail. Always a cry baby in the crowd. Did you see any game footage of GTA V? No, but we saw the difference in detail. That's all it takes.

[SoulWarrior]

@syntaxerror

Who the hell is crying? The article writer clearly wrote this as a click bait, I simply stated that we have seen no real in game footage.

Sorry if that is too hard for you to comprehend.

[TheDevKit]

Double resolution?

[jivah]

Yes double
1280*720 = 921600
1920*1080 = 2073600

[jivah]

But none of that will really make the game look better. It'll only make things sharper and cleaner looking. Which is one of my annoyances with these remakes. They up the resolution and up the frames. But they don't really touch the textures or the tessellation . You can up the textures and tessellation and keep the res and frames the same and it'll look massively better than the stuff they are doing now

[Ipunchbabiesforfun]

I'm not really sure you fully understand how big of a difference 720P to 1080P is. Being able to run a last gen game at 1080p makes significant improvements visually.

[jivah]

@Ipunchbabiesforfun Ohh no as a PC gamer I assure you I do.. And sure i do prefer to play them in the highest res i can play them in But its not something massively important. As i see many games in 1080 vs 720 i make my own comparisons and its not that big of a difference in overall graphics. and like I said i can see it looking sharper and cleaner and there is less need for antialiasing the higher you go but its not like its going to change the lighting system or magically add better textures or somehow rework the bump mapping. Pick any game and look at the ground where there is a pile of trash or rubble..where everything looks baked in to the floor now change it from 720 to 1080 now back again.. see much of a difference? i doubt it. Yet better textures and better tessellation will make it look night and day.

Case and point Enb for gta4. They reworked all the textures and it damn near looks real. vs me just putting everything 1080 um yeaa... Again not saying resolution doesnt make things not look better its just textures and tessellation will do more for a game

[user5669510]

Its a difference. Tlou is a ps3 port. Gtav is a PC port. There always was a PC version. Whats not to get gta is always on PC and it always the best version.

[rdgneoz3]

And ND has said that their engine was future proof. They didn't have to rebuild it from the ground up for UC4. Hell, the trailer from E3 was made by one person...

[user5669510]

Future proof yes. But its still a port. Gtav has been made from the get go for the next Gen and PC. Tlou didn't toward the end they ported it to ps4. You noticed the difference of UC4 but your gonna try to deny this fact. They didn't make this game with ps4 in mind its a port. That's the reason why tomb raider looks significantly different because on the PC version they was already aiming for high end . It common sense . Just like gtaV PC it already there so they just could port to next Gen with high quality assets.

There now way they can make this look as good as so called next Gen games without redoing almost everything. They up thing but things but they are nit going to redo everything because the shouldn't. Focus on UC4 and other things. Its like your saying GOW collection they came out with on ps3 should look like ps3 games because they said their engine is scalable.

[sinspirit]

@Consoleslateagain

TLoU game engine was entirely designed for PS4. This is a fact. Naughty Dog has said this. TLoU is essentially a next-gen title but they scaled down the graphics to be on PS3.

How can you say that GTAV is made for next-gen and then say TLoU isn't? GTAV was completely made for last gen, with future porting in mind. They spent 5 years to push both of those consoles as far as they could go.

So, a GTAV port is supposedly designed all for next-gen but not a TLoU port on an engine that was designed for future PS4 titles?

[user5669510]

GtaV is made for last Gen and PC. Tlou is made for ps3 then ported to ps4 just because the engine is made for next Gen doesn't mean the game is. Compare it to ps4 exclusives, even multi plats its night and day . Its easy to see in the trailer it has low quality assets still.

Like i said gtaV wasnt made for next I said it was for PC. Just like watch dogs mostly got the dev keys and ported it to next Gen . Just like watch dogs, tomb raider, metro. Y'all keep thinking these so called next Gen gfx suddenly appeared out of now where. Just because a game has been made for ps3 and xb360 doesn't mean gfx wise PC is going to look like them. What you think happen most of last Gen. The difference wasn't just frame rate and resolution between PC and last Gen consoles.

From what your saying their engine is made for ps4 (which I agreed) and tlou is made for ps4 but they're calling it remastered in the title(huh). And they scaled it down to be on ps3 even though you can see that its not high quality assets in the trailer. Then yall throw in thee3 uc4 trailer made by on person to compare to that uses high quality assets that looks way better? That's kinda a smack in ND face. You basically said this is how tlou suppose to look and if it was developed on ps4 it wouldnt look better than launch titles gfx wise. Do you hear yourself .

I only used next Gen because this is what console gamers call gfx from 2-4 yrs ago. That's why I said the next Gen console version is just the PC port that would have came out with ps3 and xb360 version . If gtav was made only for next Gen and pc , they will all look better than this version that's coming out. PC>ps4>xbone.

We don't use Gen even gtav is nothing but a port from PC version from last year, just like TR, metro. For the last 9 month we been seeing next Gen gfx and you are saying tlou is one of them. Do it look better than infamous kz I know different type of game but I could keep naming games. When you put hi Res text on low Res models everything becomes weird not only that you could tell it was design for ps3. Not blindly but if it was made for the ground up for ps4 it would be on the scale of that UC4 trailer.

Getting so defense made you downplay the talents of these devs. An engine thats designed to be scalable is not the same as make a game for ps4. To put what I'm saying in prospective. How you think tlou ps4 versionis going to stack up to metro that's coming out to ps4 and xbone? One is a ps3 port and one is a PC(like I said we don't do gens) do you call metro 2033 next Gen even though the PC version looks better than most games. You do know it came for xb360 and it came out a long time ago. See I'm talking about the assets that in the PC version .

[sinspirit]

@Consoleslateagain

No one said the game was designed for next-gen, except you. You said GTAV was designed for next-gen.

We were talking about how stupid your comment saying that GTAV was made for next-gen yet you are downplaying TLoU which was actually made on a game engine completely designed to be used for next-gen.

You don't know how development works.. Do you? It certainly isn't simply turning things up or down and it works.

As for the trailer, I've downloaded the 1080p trailer straight from the Naughty Dog website. Where is this low quality nonsense you're talking about?

I'm sorry, but the words you keep speaking are really irritatingly constructed and your "argument" is nonexistent.

The game was designed for PS3's architecture. There is a lot of restructuring to be done. Of course it won't look as good as Uncharted 4.

Don't put words in my mouth like a child. I never said TLoU was designed for PS4 or that it was next-gen. I said the engine was.

Your logic is so terrible. Metro wasn't designed for next-gen consoles just because it had great looking graphics before the consoles came out. Also, they have an updated version of the engine that Metro 2033 used. Far different from how TLoU uses the same engine that Uncharted 4 uses, that was completely designed for the current release of consoles years ago. You are right here saying that that is what I am saying? Why are you suddenly comparing the two? No one is comparing TLoU to anything except you.

Oh, and drop the "we" charade. You play PC? Sure. But, you clearly understand very little about the actual technology. I've been gaming on PC since six years old and I am now twenty. I've built several computers, learned much about how hardware and software works, and continuously shut down immature ignorance like yours several times about these topics. Don't use "we" as if you are above other gamers and know more just because you play games on a certain platform. You really don't think things through.

[TitanUp]

im buying TLOU on PS4 because I havent been able to play the game on a ps3.

[LordMaim]

I envy you the experience of playing it for the first time. I went through it three times, once while my girlfriend watched for the story. Looking forward to a fourth next month. :)

[S2Killinit]

youre so lucky.
as for me, Im getting the GTA V since I didn't play that on my PS3 (: have fun.

[mkis007]

Still haven't seen actual game-play to make such a conclusion. That 60fps 1080p is wonderful on its own. But they did promise more, and this is Naughty Dog. IT will be awesome.

[ramiuk1]

if im truthful ND is the only company in the world i would buy something from without seeing it.
You know its gonna be of highest standard and they can be trusted.

[Ravenor]

It was one of the highest rated (deservedly so!) games of the last generation. It blended story telling and gameplay in a way that absolutely destroyed Uncharted 2 & 3. Naughty Dog will take the time to make sure that it's a worthy update to one of the best games let alone PS3 games ever made.

And as the guy below said, this is ND. I think we can trust them with something like this.

[mkis007]

I enjoyed the game-play of Uncharted more, but the package as a whole was better in The Last of US.

[lonelyplayer]

I'm getting both.

[dodgemoose]

They did they bother?
It's one of the PS3's best exclusives of last gen - some would argue the best - and there's obviously a huge audience on the PS4 for it, as many owners used to play 360 and never had the chance to play it. Author also seems to be ignorant of the fact The Last of Us: Remastered includes all DLC. Right now, the original costs around £30 on Amazon. Add the £15.99 Season Pass and you're left with a couple of pounds off the asking price of the remastered version, which gets you all the graphical improvements. Seems worth it to me.

[GuyManDude]

What dodgemoose said. I know a few people who owned 360s last gen who are switching to PS4 and they're all very interested in TLOU Remastered. They never got to play the game, and now they can.

I'll be buying it as well when it hits $40 or less. It was my favorite PS3 game, so I'm looking forward to playing the campaign a couple more times. Plus I loved the multiplayer, so I plan on putting in dozens of hours with my friends who didn't have it on PS3.

And as has been mentioned already, the framerate and resolution have both been doubled, and character models and lighting have been improved. It's going to look miles better than the PS3 version (which looked good to begin with).

[zsquaresoff]

I played TLOU on Ps3 and will gladly buy it on PS4 because, it is an incredible game with an award winning story and a very underrated Multiplayer.

[Nicaragua]

I wouldnt say the multiplayer is underrated, it certainly doesnt get as much praise as the campaign but those who have played it tend to rave about it.

For me it was my 2nd favourite multiplayer of last gen after Metal Gear Online.

[Dirtnapstor]

MGO, ugh... I liked it but it would take forever to update and load! I quit playing for that very reason. Hopefully that will be changed up for Invasions.

[BlackTar187]

Nic,

I wouldnt say the multiplayer is underrated, it certainly doesnt get as much praise as the campaign

^ that is the definition of underrated.

Also all underrated everything has people who rave abotu it hence being underrated.

[scotmacb]

Lol underrated multiplayer it got 10/10 nearly everywhere overrated id say

[BlackTar187]

the game as a whole got 10/10

Do you guys really not understand what underrated means and how it applies to things?

[MonstaTruk]

I thought the main selling point for TLoU remaster was to reach out to players who were Xbox 360-only to be able to play some games that were missed...

[dodgemoose]

I think it is. But obviously there will be people that are ignorant to this fact, and, having paid for and played the original on PS3, believe that it is being remastered purely for them, and therefore they think they are being screwed over even though no one's forcing them to purchase the game again.

[uth11]

yeah, for some people it's all about them. smh

If the numbers Sony has been quoting are accurate, then some 48% of PS4 owners didn't have a PS3 - they had either a 360, Wii or no last gen system at all! With those kinds of numbers, remastering PS classics is an imperative!

[Bennibop]

I suggest the author of this piece (how the hell did it get approved) goes and visits the Naughty dog website and watches the uncompressed 1080p video for TLOU. It is looking fantastic.

[victorMaje]

Definitely getting both.
My wallet is gonna hurt so much this gen!

[ape007]

getting both but R* games worked more on GTA V, they mae it feel like a true nextgen game with substantial improvements that affects gameplay

anyways, both games are masterpieces

[Visualift]

The next gen versions of GTA IV look great, isn't that expected? It also had much more room for improvement than TLoU will require [visually]. The true test will be when actual gameplay is shown on PS4/X1 for both games.

[weirdo]

glacier white ps4, last of us, gta v, driveclub, bloodborne, uncharted, evil within, project cars... gaming has never been so good!

[MasterCornholio]

Pretty easy.

One is exclusive the other isn't.

That's why it bothers some people just like the Halo collection bothers some people.

[Rainstorm81]

BINGO

[ps360s]

For people like me who has missed out on it for going next gen early

[domford1981]

I will be triple-dipping for TLOU, bought it a second time on ps3 when the dlc came out. No regrets, I got a decent resale price first time round. Will be playing on hardest setting this time tho : /

[mcarsehat]

money money money

[mcarsehat]

Apart from the open world itself, GTA V'S graphics went down in quality to me because of The Last Of Us.

The size and scope was nice but that wore off, the colour pallet of GTA V was just too sunkissed.

[masterfox]

why did The Last of Us bother?

cause I haven't play it yet :D

[bleedsoe9mm]

and thats who its for , not enough improvement if you already played it to buy it again imo
GTA V on the other hand looks like a completely different game .

[Spotie]

Strange how many people are saying they'll buy it again even though they bought it already on PS3.

That seems to directly contradict what you've said.

[bleedsoe9mm]

@Spotie does seem like allot of people doesn't it , maybe since we seen how little work ND put in on this cash in that number will go down . i'm not putting down TLoU its an amazing game but GTA v looks like a different game and TLoU looks great if you don't already own it on ps3. JMO

[DigitalRaptor]

Ah another detractor calling it a lazy cash in without actually judging upgrades for what they are. You're comparing 95% of pre-rendered cinematics, not gameplay.

So yeah, next time you want to disrespect one of the hardest working dev houses in the industry, come at it with more logic and don't dismiss hard work: http://www.polygon.com/2014...

The only laziness going on here is this piece that was written without the use of any kind of critical thinking.

[JackVagina]

The game is LOCKED 60fps, thats why it doesnt have much of a visual upgrade compared to GTA V (witch i assume will be 30fps) and Tomb Raider ran like 42-55

Getting a locked 60fps takes up alot of the consoles resources

[guyman]

The main difference: tlou is an outstanding masterpiece that deserves the remaster. Whereas gta v, much like gta 4, is just overrated really, games are big but extremely bland.

Obviously its my subjective view, many people enjoy Gta.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

OMG... words are not enough to describe how wrong I imo your comments are.

[ZodTheRipper]

He has a point though, GTA5 felt kinda casualized and not like the huge leap people were expecting. Also I found GTA online more fun in GTA4.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@ZodTheRipper I would disagree, I felt GTA 5 was indeed a massive leap for last gen in terms of delivering large seam-less open worlds with fantastic voice acting and delivery. People were amazed that GTA 5 existed on the last gen hardware given its scope and visuals.

[ginsunuva]

TLOU remaster isn't for PS3 players who got it already.

[SpiralTear]

Yet those are the people who will buy it.

[Audiggity]

For what it's worth, I have an Xbox One and THIS is the game that has convinced me to get a PS4 as well.

Only reason I didn't get a PS3 for the original was how close it was released to the next gen launches.

[S2Killinit]

I wouldn't be surprised if some people who already played it would buy it, especially if they never got to play the Left Behind DLC due to moving on to PS4.(like me). I personally might just get it so I can play the Left Behind. I mean it was, one awesome game. so yeah. Also, I think there are a lot of newcomers to the Playstation Brand with the PS4, they would be happy to experience the game I'm sure. So it makes perfect sense to me personally.

[KinjoTakemura]

Had it on PS3, gave my PS3 to my nephew before I finished it, and now i'm buying it for PS4. And i'm more than happy to waste MY MONEY on whatever the hell I want to waste it on.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

TLOU remastering is more like TLOU Up-resolution. Nothing about what i have seen would call for someone who had it on PS3 to buy it on PS4. It's strictly for someone who hasn't played it on PS3 but has a PS4.

GTA 5 not only is attractive to those who didn't buy GTA 5 on last gen machines but its also more than just an "up-resolution" effect as they have used alot of better textures and effects to really enhance and improve the game. There is enough of a change that this should also tempt those who bought it on last gen.

[GamersHeaven]

Why did this idiot even bother writing this article? The Last Of Us already looked amazing the way it was not much was needed in terms of a visual upgrade.Adding better AA,textures,lighting character models and higher Resolution 1080p FPS locked 60FPS will give the game plenty of justice.I never played GTA 5 on PS3 its obvious its a open world game that would of benefit more from a graphical upgrade additional RAM.

[0P-Tigrex]

I'm definitely getting both games. I'm a huge advocate of The Last of Us (If you haven't played it you're in for a serious roller coaster ride of emotions). As for the graphics..I have no doubt in my mind the game will have noticeable overall improvements.

GTA5, haven't played it yet. This was the very reason why i delayed my purchase. I wanted to play it on Ps4.

[mogwaii]

True, the GTAV remake trailer was brilliant, the last of us one was just cut scenes that showed no obvious upgrades, perhaps the final build will do but cmon guys show us the shit!

[Belasco]

Easy, people that do not own a Ps3 (mine crapped out)and want to play TLOU have every reason to buy it along with a PS4. Hell, my wife wants it as well.

[jnemesh]

I don't mind the remasters one bit! I skipped most of the games that are being remastered, now my first experience with TLOU and GTA V will be on my PS4! As was my first experience with Tomb Raider. Bring on the "remasters"! I will buy them...and enjoy the hell out of them!

[windblowsagain]

TLOU is an awesome game and i might get it again once it's cheap for PS4.

60FPS is a major plus.

[Auron]

not to mention 1080p and better anti-aliasing.

[bocajbee]

Yeah, it's hard to see in a compressed YouTube video, but the jump from 720p to 1080p alone is massive.

[Xbot1214]

this is sonys console seller? lmao

[urwifeminder]

Just so they can say they have a highly rated game on the console simple.

[Geekman]

Going with The Last Of Us.

[toddybad]

If anybody buys either game after owning the original they're idiots.
I have GTA4 and won;t buy that. I haven't played TLOU so I might buy that.
Graphics don;t make a game, they're merely the icing on the cake. If you buy the same game twice with slightly different graphics you are part of the problem of over-moneterisation affecting gaming.

[spacedelete]

how about you keep your stupid opinion to yourself. i have bought GTAV before but i'm still buying the next gen version. not because i'm an idiot but becase the game was that good. also ibecause i sold my last gen consoles and this will be a good chance to play again. oh and its not like theres much games coming out in 2014 anyway so a nice open world game will do me fine until i wait for 2015 games to release. now stick that up your pipe and smoke it.

[toddybad]

No, it's because you're an idiot.
The game won't be any different so why would you want to play it again over another game? Watch Dogs would be the obvious one.
Why would you be determined to only not play it if you have another open world AAA game? There are already so many quality indie games out that you hardly have time for AAA if you dare move away from boring rehashes.
Argue all you like but you're the very definition of an idiot.

[thelaughingwiseman]

I couldn't agree more. But this has been a problem in gaming for such an long time. Consumers will always be buying games for one reason or another, and graphics seems to be the many proponent for their purchase.

[spacedelete]

no i'm not an idiot you turd. are that stupid you didn't even read my comment. i said i'm buying GTAV again because it was a brilliant game and because i sold my last gen consoles so this is a good chance to play it again. Watch dogs is overrated trash that doesn't even look as good as last gen GTAV let alone the next gen version. Watch dogs is just a factory made game from Ubisoft that doesn't have the magic and atmosphere a GTA game has.

its hilarious how you think i would replace playing a massive budget game for a crap SNES looking game that would get boring in an hour. besides why does people wanting to play a game again they like offend you so much ? your just a stupid hipster who thinks the world revolves around you.

argue all you want but you are a turd. now go play on the busy traffic and do everyone else a favour.

[toddybad]

Okay, so call me Mr Hanky and read this in a high pitched voice.

It's my last bubble so you'll have to give me another if you're going to waste your time replying again.

Whether or not you think you're an idiot doesn't change the fact that you are. I'm going to assume you're quite young from the way you've written your responses so far. Perhaps without a proper grounding in the 'good old days' of gaming you've got mixed up about what's important

I understand you enjoyed GTA5 and there's a tiny bit of me that can understand you wanting it if you got rid of your last gen machine. It's still an issue though. The issue isn't a personal one particularly, but people need to understand that individual purchasing decisions affect the overall gaming market.

Every time somebody purchases additional content at a cost it shows devs that they make make money via DLC. Buying DLC therefore guarantees the future of DLC.

Buying games that were released under a year ago on a new system when the graphics have been slightly tweaked but the gameplay remains basically identical means that devs will see that as a fair approach to developing. That is a bad thing for gamers.

We already have too many numbered games - again brought about by modern gamers' lack of imagination in purchasing decisions. Ubisoft, the current king of AAA, have basically said they don't want to make new IP but would rather simply churn out numbered games even when, like Assassins Creed (which I like btw) they no longer have any real story or purpose.

You talk about indie games like they're all crap. Many indies are far more imaginative and clever than AAA games. Whilst some resort to 'SNES looking' graphics, I personally think that's a lazy approach to developing and many other indies have incredible graphics.

Don't forget, many indie devs become 1st party devs. Just recently the PS4 has issued indie after indie and theyv'e, in the main, been fantastic quality. Something like Stick it to the Man looks AAA and has all the qualities of a AAA game but doesn't require 15hr playing time to prove it's worth. Thinking of many AAA games the extra hours are often spent trawling the game for meaningless items. If you genuinely judge the quality of a game by its budget you really have your priorities wrong.

If you nee further proof about indies: No man's Sky.

[AnEwGuY]

When the size of the cinematics/cutscenes have a negative impact on the overall quality of a GAME, you're doing it all wrong. Shame on you Naughty Dog.

[thelaughingwiseman]

Psh MGS4 was a major violator of your rule. They had cutscenes for days!

[thelaughingwiseman]

I see 2 major reasons they would remaster it

More money and to give people who didn't have a PS3 a chance to play the game on the PS4.

[TheGrimReaper0011]

In my honest opinion, The Last of Us is worth more the second purchase than GTA V.

Not to say that GTA V is bad or anything, but I will still remember The Last Of Us in 30 years. I won't with GTA V.

That said, I will plan to get both

[elhebbo16]

I'm just happy I get to play GTA V at glorious 1080p 60fps, down the line will also try to pick up TLOU remastered if I get a PS4. TLOU is probably my most favorite game on PS3 and it definitely deserves the higher framerate and resolution.

[Ghost_Nappa]

1080p60fps. Christ, this guy wouldnt be impressed if ran at 4k120fps.

[PS3and4_HAS_GAMES]

Because its a Sony exclusive and people love to hate SONY...maybe because their games are number one

[bleedsoe9mm]

comparing the 2 its an embarrassing cash in by ND

[Father__Merrin]

ive not played last of us, ps3 price is around £24.99 - £29.99, so last of us ps4 being around £37 possibly cheaper near release is a no brainer

best of all to the haters is both last of us and gta5 remaster is on ps4 :)

[tkato]

GTA 5 Doesn't look that much better...

[SnakePlissken]

From observing the video, a lot of the comparisons seem kinda minimal. I did a comparison of my own at home. With lego marvel ps3 and the ps4 version. There was a slight bit more of detail and gloss to the ps4 version. Textures were the same though.

After turning on the RGB feature on the ps3, it looked even better. With more darker contrast and a bit more shine to the game. I suggest anyone else to turn on the RGB feature to full on your ps3 and ps4 also!

If your tv can handle it, makes a big difference! Now I understand that lego marvel might be a kinda weak example, and that these are remasters. But seriously, after spending $60 on a game I've already played? I have a hard time repurchasing the same exact game again with shinier graphics!

I suggest anyone to try this feature out. Does make a big difference! These remasters are feelng like more of a cash grab to me.

[WheatBread]

GTAV looks amazing, can't wait to see it on the pc.

[TheHardware]

Well....I'm buying it.

[Tedakin]

Halo 2 is the best example of an amazing re-master. With that said I think the TLOU re-master is more for people who didn't own a PS3 and may have missed out on it than those who already have it.

[memots]

it does look incredible ! ( halo 2 remaster )

But The last of Us was so much fun and sometime you could see the jagged pixel that i think a better experience for the Fan and anyone who missed it is worth it.
I am also very excited with Gta5 ill get that on PC

[bocajbee]

It's for all the PS4 only owners.

Plus, I'd like a 1080p /60FPS version, thank you.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

Is no one else angry at Rockstar?

Heists were meant to be there day one and got "slightly delayed". Nearly a year on and still no sign of them, instead theyve worked on a re release that they expect everyone to go out and buy yet they never even finished the original version..

[irishyort]

This opening...
"Hey folks! We know you already own GTA V and The Last of Us after you bought them a year ago"...

Put me on the defensive immediately.

No I don't own either nor have I played them yet (played them and sold them), so shut up already. I want to play them on my PS4 so they "Bothered" with the last of us because people the millions like me could enjoy it for the 1st time you twit, and the people that may want to give it another run may find some new content.

My understanding of great games is that they generally draw another play through or two, so both of these being the last of the great games of last gen makes perfect sense to me!

[Hayabusa 117]

For those who haven't played the Last of Us, it's an absolute must for the PS4. For those who have, seriously, why the fck would you even bother? And to those who say they want to play it in 1080p at 60 fps (if you've already played it)...that's just sad. Very sad.

To be fair, I have no desire to replay GTA V again either. They're both amazing experiences but for me, they're not game worlds that warrant multiple playthroughs.

I'm not against porting old games onto the new systems, but it's for people who haven't played those games before, not for those who have done and dusted them.

[KinjoTakemura]

The perfect article for butthurt xbox one fanboys to vent. No TLOU for YOU!!! AAAAAAHahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa aaaaaaaa!!!!