Reggie’s Thoughts on Wii U Outselling The PS4 and Xbox One

The Seattle Times was recently able to interview Reggie Fils-Aime and he was asked if the Wii U will ever outsell the Playstation 4 and Xbox One and this is what he had to say

[PurpatraitorMGS]

No. Nintendo has their audience. I doubt they can keep up in console sales against two systems who have a wider, general audience.

Of course, handhelds are a different story.

[uptownsoul]

My man Reggie killing me. How bout this…I had a foot race with a Ferrari for a quarter mile. I was given a head start. And do you know that there was an exact moment in time when I appeared to be "pretty close" to the Ferrari as it passed me. I guess by Reggie's logic, the race ended in a photo finish.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Hahaha :3

[MNGamer-N]

What if the Ferrari runs out of gas? Like the turtle and the Hare?

[-Foxtrot]

@MNGamer-N

Pretty sure we saw or heard a different turtle and hare story

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[KwietStorm_BLM]

That was genuinely funny.

[ABizzel1]

The sheer stupidity of that comment, blows my mind. You had a 1 year headstart BY YOURSELF and you're already losing to the PS4, and the XBO isn't too far behind you.

This is currently a 1 horse race, with another horse and carriage about to speed past you if you don't get things together over there.

The Wii U is finally getting some good games, and the first party titles it deserves. BUt what they've shown so far at E3 while impressive, isn't enough to put them back in any kind of race with Sony or even MS (who should be getting some kind of a boost thanks to the $399 SKU).

Instead of acting like things are Mushroom Kingdom Peachy, you need to listen to that fan in your Robot Chicken video, and start bringing back old franchises and New IP, because you're getting creamed right now.

You want to compete.

1. Bring Pokemon Z exclusive to Wii U, show that Pokemon 2D/3D Fighting Game, Where is Pokemon Snap, Make a real Pokemon RPG for Wii U featuring Amiibo (not some Rumble garbage), or make a Pokemon MMO.

2. We know you're working on Zelda, Metroid, and Star Fox. Well where's your RPG's, Action games, etc... Mario RPG for Wii U, Kid Icarus, Earthbound, a Bowser game, and more.

3. NEW IP. You're sick of hearing it, we're sick of saying it. The Gamepad is perfect for new experiences. Make an LA Noire type crime game, a Portal style game, and maybe a real Open world exploratory game. We're not saying make 100, but at least 3 worthy additions to the library per generation.

4. 3rd party support. You have none from the west as E3 showed, as far as the biggest games go. EA nothing, Activision nothing, Ubisoft was your main supporter and even they dropped you. This means you're missing Batman, Evolve, Assassing Creed Unity (might get the last gen version), Far Cry 4, The Crew, The Division, Rainbow Six, Destiny, and more.

That's the truth Reggie, not this BS you're spewing.

[Nine_Thousaaandd]

Oh Reggie...your comment was bout as funny as that expression on your face.

http://i.minus.com/iHzXFvuX...

It's ok Reggie...I'll be picking up a Wii U soon for Zelda and Bayonetta.

[Spooney323]

Awesome anololgy uptownsoul ! Haha

[paulcek]

What else is he supposed to say though? He can't just say "nope, we're gonna lose."

[Madock]

N64 used cartridges while PS1 was hacked and sold by millions with home-brew games and a music CD player.
NGC had no DVD player while PS2 again was sold as a cheap DVD player.
I know the above cause that's why me, my family and 10s of friends bought the PS1 and the PS2
Wii came and despite awful graphics sold more than competition
Wii U came with slow software, bad name and with Sony and Microsoft spending billions on bashing the Wii u, promoting "true next gen"myth and buying third party titles off Nintendo
Don't believe that there is not enough install base BS cause Xone got and will continue to have less install base and they r still releasing games for it (although those who r not bought r slowly abandoning it)
Mario kart caused a 600% bump in sales for the WiiU, say that's like extra 2 mil (long term)
Smash will cause a similar bump, say 2 mil
Zelda will cause a similar bump, say 2-3 mil
starfox, bayonetta and X got ppl waiting for them, each like 1/2 a mil bump
plus the normal steady sale of around 200k a month
we r already looking at more than 20 mil by early 2016 (def b4 next console) and we all know sales will continue even after they release a new one
Nintendo been in this business for too long and know exactly what to do, they starve then release at controlled intervals to maximise hype and sales
They'll b making profit as well, ton of it, they spent half a billion on restructure and new buildings that could have made them see profit this year and prob last year too

1 powerful do it all console for all ages and Nntendo will sweep again, even with 1st party titles only to start

[Concertoine]

@Abizzel

A bowser game? What?! They have plenty of action: Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, Devil's Third and RPG's: Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem, Monster hunter, and Xenoblade X... that's just what's announced. Also i think we will see new ip's soon... splatoon is a fun start and them testing the waters.

@Madock

Good grief man, that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever read. I certainly think Nintendo could strike gold again but i guess no one experiences success but nintendo in your eyes.

[choujij]

Is it any different when people compare Xbox 360 to Wii and PS3, tho it had a year head start?

[ABizzel1]

@Concertoine

Cherry picking doesn't help prove your point, especially when there were 4 other strong and valid problems with the Wii U. Nintendo's problem is they're moving at too slow of a pace releasing games when they have absolutely no 3rd party support to cushion their releases.

The main reasons they don't have 3rd party support is because, none Nintendo 1st party games perform poorly on Nintendo consoles, because fans only want Mario, Zelda, Smash, Pokemon, and Metroid. Which is fine, but that's exactly why developers take their time and money elsewhere. Also not having powerful enough hardware where they can easily port their games to Wii U makes developers skip it all together when they know they're not going to make their money back.

Nintendo doesn't have the benefit of EA, Ubisoft, Activision, Warner, Epic, Bethesda, 2k, and more making games for them so they have to do it themselves and fast or pay for 3rd party exclusives.

Until they get these issues solved, Nintendo's home console will always be just a Nintendo platform, and will be in the same position of selling to an audience of about 30 million core gamers, and hope they get lucky and net casuals.

I'm not here to bash Nintendo, but they need a reality knock because they have comments like this going around which makes them seem aloof and clueless.

If I had to describe Nintendo's mindset most of the time, it would be this.... http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/...

Seriously, it's like a bunch of little kids are running the company. They need someone to come in there and get their act together. I've proven once before I own a Wii U, but Nintendo has a lot of work ahead of them, and for Reggie to act like they're neck and neck, when they're getting their @$$ served to them just goes to show how backwards and aloof they really are.

[fenome]

@ABizzel1

On the real, I'd buy a wii-u right now if they made another TRUE Mario RPG, and I'm not talking about Paper Mario. I'm talkin' about SNES Legend of the Seven Stars, one of my favorite games of all time.

They'd have to keep it true though, Nintendo has a habbit of trying to flip everything on its head for 'innovation'. That's where they lost me, they kept the names but lost their roots..

If you keep trying to reinvent the wheel it's just gonna end up spinning sideways.

I still own all their consoles and my favorite games up till the N64, but that's where I stop with them for the moment.

[ShoryuSwordsman]

@madock

Your logic is a bit flawed. You're assuming that every new game made will be a system seller, as if everyone who wants each of these games wouldn't have a wii u by the next one. Mk8 may have had a spike, and smash brothers will likely have one as well, but after that don't be surprised if sales slow to a crawl. With maybe 50-100k spikes with their bread n butter ips.

[DragonKnight]

Nintendo are, at times, their own worst enemy. They have some great IPs but they are slow as molasses to do anything and they are still marred in old school business ideas and models. I in fact heard that that's actually a term in Japan called "Kyoto Business" or something where all of the oldest companies reside in Kyoto and still do business in the old ways.

Nintendo is like an aged turtle (and I just now realized the irony in saying that). Been around a long, long time, moves slow, and doesn't do much of anything new.

You could say they created the Evergreen model and it's biting them in the behind with the Wii U.

That said, people need to ditch the instant gratification attitude as well. All things take time.

[andibandit]

Youre all fools, he has to say this, its corporate communication

[Eonjay]

Except, technically he is not wrong. The Wii U is in 2nd place.

[Evilsnuggle]

I think it could be close between wiiU and xbone Juan sells . If Nintendo play their hand right . If Nintendo drop the wiiU price to 200 or 250 bundle with super smash bros . They could grow their lead on xbone . Now against sony Nintendo nor Microsoft stands a chance in win the sales war against sony . PS4 will almost double the sales lifetime sales of both wiiU and xbone worldwide .

/necro_559 and dark king

We're are you getting your numbers Microsoft has not sold 5.5 million xbone Juan's more like 4.5 maybe . Microsoft has not announced there sales numbers that was shipped not sold sorry.

[G20WLY]

^Their they're, calm down.

[Magicite]

Now WiiU can try to compete with X1 and with upcoming exclusives it has a chance.
Not a chance against PS4 of course.

[greenlantern2814]

Well he can't say, no we are gonna get destroyed. Nintendo has to at least appear confident. Besides right now they are riding a positive wave, sales are way up, MK8 getting great reviews all around, most people liked their E3 showing. So why not say your in the race as long as you can say it.

[Shnazzyone]

I expected this and I was curious how N4g would react when wii U becomes number 1 after mario kart 8's release. It feels nice to be right and it seems I got my answer. Seems primarily denialism and dismissing this as being any form of win.

Dunno if it will maintain but suddenly I know lots of other people with a wii U. Anything to increase that installbase and get more for my wii U... I'm okay with.

[Kalebninja]

oh I'm sorry what was the wii then?

[D-riders]

Wider general audience than nintendo?

[Thatguy-310]

Reality will hit him hard lol he does realize that the consoles launched 7 months ago right? Where as the Wii U has more than a year on the market and has struggled.

[LOL_WUT]

You know its doing bad when Nintendo and Co. celebrate a one week event... Guess you got to celebrate any win you can get.

Ps4 7.7 Million sold in 8 months
WiiU 6.2 Million sold in over a year and a half

And Reggie thinks it's still a three-horse race? The Mr. Fantastic reach is strong with this one ;)

[nucky64]

how does anyone disagree with you....what you posted is the truth.

[Army_of_Darkness]

Because Nintendo fanboys are delusional like Reggie lol!

[randomass171]

@Army_of_Darkness Actually it's because this is one of the few times LOL_WUT is not complaining about something dumb and actually said something somewhat accurate backed up by evidence.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@dboyce Yeah that's unfortunate but Nintendo released a plethora of games at E3. That managed to Hugely outnumber Sony's offering's and even managed to out number X1's great quantity of games.

Super Smash Bro's Wii U, Bayonetta 2, Yoshi's Wooly World, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Hyrule Warriors, Kirby: And The Rainbow Curse, Xeno Blade Chronicles, Mario Maker, Splatoon, Mario Party 10, Sonic Boom, Devil's Third. A

And the much anticipated Star Fox and Zelda U. That's a massive 14 exclusive.

Compared to Sony's 6 exclusives.

The Order: 1886, Uncharted 4 A Thief's End, Bloodborne, Drive Club, Little Big planet 3 And The F2P title Let It Die.

Compared to MS 11 games.

Halo MCC, Sunset Overdrive, FH2, Fable Legends, Quantum Break, Crack Down 3, Phantom Dust, Halo 5 Guardians, Scale Bound, Ori And The Blind Forest and inside.

Nintendo's beats out both Sony and MS. It may have taken Nintendo a little time but my god they're back.

EDIT: @dboyce "True but the majority of them just cater to the Nintendo fan base. That's the problem with Nintendo."

Yeah and those Nintendo fans bought the crap out of Mario Kart.

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Over 1.2mill just think once Zelda U and Star Fox release? I can't imagine the numbers Nintendo fans are super dedicated fan base.

[Thatguy-310]

True but the majority of them just cater to the Nintendo fan base. That's the problem with Nintendo. In order for them to compete they need to reach out of their demographic. The fanbase can only get you so far.

[weekev15]

Nvr mind

[LAWSON72]

Still they do not have 3rd party.

I am not saying 3rd would be a huge plus for Wii U, but PS4 and Xbone have a plethora of big multiplats coming out cannot be ignored

[rdgneoz3]

Nintendo always has a good line up of first party games (though many tend to be for younger gamers), what they tend to lack is multiplats.

No GTA, Destiny, AC: Unity, Shadow's of Mordor, Watch Dogs was pushed way back, Far Cry 4, Dying Light, Evil Within, Witcher 3, Dark Knight, Dragon Age, Evolve, The Crew, ...

[InTheLab]

And what of the games the WiiU won't be getting? I'm sure every one of you would trade another Yarn title for Arkham Knight.

You also missed a few PS4 titles.

[Mr_Writer85]

"Yeah and those Nintendo fans bought the crap out of Mario Kart. "

Well of course they would when its the only game they are going to get for god knows how long...

"Over 1.2mill just think once Zelda U and Star Fox release? I can't imagine the numbers Nintendo fans are super dedicated fan base."

So dedicated they waited over a year to buy a WiiU...

[DivineHand125]

When comparing Nintendo's console to it's competitors, you cannot only list exclusives. You have to include the 3rd party games that are not coming to the wiiU. Once you do that, you will realize how meagre Nintendo's offerings really are.
The position Nintendo is in right now is that they cannot prove to the core gamer that the wiiU can satisfy their gaming needs and no gamer deserves to miss out on the big upcoming third party games.

[InTheLab]

@devine

Exactly. So when you look at the list of exclusives on the WiiU versus PS4 or X1, you have to account for the true next gen titles coming that won't be on ps3/360wiiu. With that in mind, another Mario title won't convince anyone to buy a WiiU unless you're the die hards that thought the wii was a good console.

[elhebbo16]

I'm pretty sure he is hit with these numbers on the daily bases. all he is doing here is PR talk, 'reality' wont hit him because he already knows whats going on.

[paulcek]

Dude, Reggie isn't that stupid, HE KNOWS that the Wii U is selling poorly, but what is he supposed to say? He probably thinks the Wii U will come in third but has to act like it still has a chance cuz THAT'S HIS JOB.

[DivineHand125]

Unfortunately I don't think coming 1st, 2nd or 3rd is as important to Nintendo as it is to Microsoft and Sony since they have yet to make the needed change to push them further. Just look at Microsoft for example. They did a complete 180 in the 8 months the xbox one was out.
All Nintendo cares about is making as much money as possible no matter their current situation while maintaining their old ideologies.

[-Foxtrot]

Some of the stuff he's said lately doesn't seem very "Reggie" like.

It's like Nintendo in general, he's adopted their approach

"LALALALALA NOT LISTENING...DON'T CARE"

[ChickeyCantor]

"doesn't seem very "Reggie" like. "

I really am under the impression people like you have imprinted an idea onto yourself that you fully understand what they are doing.

What do you want Reggie to say? "Yeah we are a bit late with our time frame, Nintendo sure sucks".

I bet the answer is "yes". Because that's what you people expect a PR to tell the audience.

They are doing well now. And it looks like they did pretty well with E3 convincing a lot of people. So F Reggie for having a positive spin at it. F him for being the PR of Nintendo. If only he wasn't doing his job, right?

"It's like Nintendo in general, he's adopted their approach "

He speaks for Nintendo. FFS dude.

[FinalomegaS]

jeez, someone on this site that actually thinks.

whats more funny, is that you got a disagree lol. It's been a long time and I am 99% sure the posters on here live in the basement and know nothing of the outside world.

I am part of that evil machine, and what you said is 101% true... When my executive team go on the show floor for an event and the press have them, they represent the company and must do and say everything for the good of "the company".

[-Foxtrot]

Just because he speaks for Nintendo doesn't mean he has to speak total BS and make it look like he's totally deluded. Look at the Twitch comment because apparently it's "no fun". Your saying that people have an imprinted idea that we understand what they are doing....we know Nintendo more then them. They speak like they know what's best for us instead of listening to what we actually want.

Reggie in the past has always spoke realistically about current situations and has always tried to play the field so he doesn't sound like he's doing a typical PR talk.

One example out of many, a Metroid game, that should be in development now, hell we should of saw a teaser at E3 but nothing how long have we been asking for that one. If you need another take a Majoras Mask remake, how long have we been asking for that one and just now we are getting "We are listening". We've finally just got a Starfox game yet it's miles off.

There's speaking realistically for a company your promoting and speaking like you and the company are totally in denial about your surroundings, so obviously that we can easily pick it up.

"What do you want Reggie to say? "Yeah we are a bit late with our time frame, Nintendo sure sucks"

Or how about

"Yeah we are a bit late with our time frame, but Nintendo are doing the best we can at the minute to turn that bad start into a fantastic finish"

Not that hard really is it.

People like you need to chill the hell out

[Baka-akaB]

Well it's his job actually to speak total BS . If things were more positive , you'd hear more things , but when that "all" you can latch upon of course you'll spin the heck of it and be glib .

It doesnt work on us , but it probably does on someone . Hell i rolled my eyes at his vga presence , where he was like we are showing you "donkey kong and luigi , what more do you want ?" . But the common guy was maybe in awe

"Reggie in the past has always spoke realistically about current situations and has always tried to play the field so he doesn't sound like he's doing a typical PR talk. "

I dont believe that for a second . At least that's not how i remember it . The situation was just very difference with a wii leading the market for a while despite the flaws . But he and others always brushed aside their issues , especially with 3rd parties

[maniacmayhem]

A thing you have to understand about Foxtrot is that everyone in his mind speaks PR talk.

You'll find him saying this in every MS or Nintendo article when an interview of one of their execs are talking.
I'll tell you where you won't find him saying this, in a Sony article.

I mean we just had a total PR/BS article about Shu apologizing for game delays. Of course according to him Shu is down to Earth, but Reggie, all PR talk.

[ChickeyCantor]

"Your saying that people have an imprinted idea that we understand what they are doing....we know Nintendo more then them."

There you go. Case in point. BRAVO.

"
"Yeah we are a bit late with our time frame, but Nintendo are doing the best we can at the minute to turn that bad start into a fantastic finish" "

What difference does it make? How is this concerning to you? You're reaching for straws. Just stop man. STOP.

[-Foxtrot]

"What difference does it make? How is this concerning to you? You're reaching for straws. Just stop man. STOP."

Urm...a lot, that's what. I think this...

"but Nintendo are doing the best we can at the minute to turn that bad start into a fantastic finish"

Is alot better then what YOU suggested he say

"Nintendo sure sucks"

How is it concerning me? I don't know you tell me since your the one who brought it up in the first place. I'm just replying to you

Your telling me to stop but your the one looking silly here as your the one who replied to me, saying these things which don't hold much relevance to the convo.

So no...YOU stop and YOU stop reaching for straws.

Honestly man people like you are why Nintendo doesn't feel the need to step forward and get with the times. It's different if comments were like "Nintendo sucks" but when people make critical comments which are thoughts on their current situation people like you swoop in thinking they are attacking them full force for whatever reason and feel the need to defend them.

I really think nostalgia plays a huge part in this....you've got to stop looking at Nintendo as the company from the past and look at what they are in the present, there's a huge difference now.

[ChickeyCantor]

"Urm...a lot, thats what. I think "
You keep saying that, but no substance. Where is your in depth explanation?

"How is it concerning me...I don't know you tell me since your the one who brought it up in the first place. I'm just replying to you

Your telling me to stop but your the one looking silly here as your the one who replied to me, saying these things which don't hold much relevance to the convo.
"

So you can't even explain why you are so against the thing Reggie said. Then you go on telling me I'm adding nothing to the convo. Brilliant. You really don't see the irony of that, do you?

"Honestly man people like you are why Nintendo doesn't feel the need to step forward and get with the times."

First of all Reggies talks are mostly directed to stockholders. Not to us gamers directly. Nintendo is picking up steam, that's good for gamers. That's all we need to know. Whether they outsell Sony is not a concern of mine. All I need to know is that Nintendo is doing alright. By that alone I know the WiiU will have decent, if not, great support.

Second: How is Reggie having positive spin on their CURRENT success, telling us that they are holding back their own business?

Me simply calling out to your BS does NOT mean I'm affecting Nintendo in anyway. My disagreement is with you, those are the limits.

Again you're reaching for straws.

"I really think nostalgia plays a huge part in this....you've got to stop looking at Nintendo as the company from the past and look at what they are in the present, there's a huge difference now."

Seriously dude just stop. You try to come off intelligent and deep and what not but you're just throwing around the same Nintendo hate drivel. A try hard, that's what you are.

I wasn't defending Reggie because it's Nintendo. I was defending Reggie because you were telling him NOT to do his job.

I'm done with this.

[moparful99]

Look every one is entitled to their opinions. Just because you think someone is overly concerned with Regie's "rainbows and sunshine" pr speech about their lagging sales doesn's make their opinion irrelevant.

In fact if Nintendo listened to and addressed concerns like this they probably wouldnt be in their current predicament..

He is probably like myself, we grew up with Nintendo and it shaped our affinity for video games. So it is very disconcerting to us that Nintendo under the PR mantle of Reggie is doing so poorly.

If he wants to voice his concern he is more than entitled. Your overly defensive stature is concerning, if you are a fan of Nintendo why are you not more concerned?

[ChickeyCantor]

"if you are a fan of Nintendo why are you not more concerned"

About what? That's the thing I don't get. I should be concerned about what?

Foxtrot simply complaint because he didn't like Reggie doing his job. The illusion he is suddenly talking different. No he isn't. It's just standard PR talk.

You would never hear a Sony PR or a MS PR down talk their own business. It's counter productive. You don't talk in negatives unless there is an apology. And that's exactly what Foxtrot wants. An apology because their plan didn't go as intended. But what will you achieve with that. How will this do good to me as a gamer?

"In fact if Nintendo listened to and addressed concerns like this they probably wouldnt be in their current predicament.. "

Are you serious?
They were getting backlash for a whole year. They did listen and address a lot of the concerns. That's exactly what this E3 was. So even when they do you still insist they aren't addressing anything? And how did you figure that? Because Reggie is positively spinning their current success?

It's never good enough when it comes to Nintendo. So you have people like foxtrot complaining about how Reggie is doing his PR job. Absolutely laughable.

As a matter of fact, his opinion is absolutely irrelevant and simply a whine.

He has every right to cast his opinion, doesn't mean it's a valid one.

with that said :

"Your overly defensive stature is concerning"

No I'm tired of Foxtrot looking for BS reasons to complain. Simple as that.

[-Foxtrot]

Go home ChickeyCanto...your drunk

[Concertoine]

I can't say i'm seeing much of a difference in the way Reggie talks because they've never really experienced long term failure in the time he worked there until now.

But i find your accusation of them not/barely listening to be a little bit extreme. If they don't have plans to make a remake of Majora's Mask its not them flipping off fans, more likely that dev team working on something else and them not willing to halt progress on that project for a remake. That's assuming it's not already in development with them choosing to reveal it later. And to complain "Star Fox is miles off" is just being stupid... i mean games take time and if they don't have a good concept and don't want to outsource it again (a move which led the series where it is) then let the series rest until that time comes. You should really be glad it's coming, not complain we won't see it until the end of next year.

[-Foxtrot]

How is it extreme...oh yeah because it's Nintendo and we can't go "extreme" for Nintendo can we.

Seriously people like you wouldn't have a problem if I and others on this article were talking about anyone else. Why is it Nintendo seems to get the benefit of the doubt yet people have no problem ripping Microsoft or Sony to shreds if they were being out of touch constantly or making arrogant/deluded statements.

"more likely that dev team working on something else and them not willing to halt progress on that project for a remake"

There is always a team around, there will always be at least one team who is finished or almost finished who can get to work on it. Hell the team who did the Ocarina of Time remake.

"And to complain "Star Fox is miles off" is just being stupid... i mean games take time and if they don't have a good concept"

How is it being stupid...it is miles off and probably won't be released until 2016 so please don't call someone stupid for being realistic. Starfox and Metroid fan requests since forever should of been announced by now or maybe last year. The Wii U has been out for a year and a half now. They had their Mario games at the start so why didn't we get other, non Mario games now....oh yeah because they are out of touch and are still living in the past. Their comments lately show that they think they know what we want but they have it completely wrong.

I wouldn't mind if during that head start they focused more on tightening their third party support for the Wii U before the PS4/Xbox One came out but they didn't even do that.

Hell look at the next Zelda game...we don't even have a title for it, just a "Look at this, this is what the game will look like...pretty right...ok well that's all see you next year". We'd be lucky if we get a Holiday 2015 release.

Oh and while we are at it...Gamecube games. Where are those? Super Mario Sunshine, Double Dash, Luigis Mansion, Resident Evil 0, Resident Evil Remake, Metroid Prime, Starfox, Paper Mario, Pikman, Animal Crossing, Smash Bros Melee" I could go on

[tigertron]

Whatever you say, Reggie.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Reggie is ignoring the time frame it took to reach its current sales in comparison to the other consoles, but to be fair, if the console's future games increase sales fast enough, that gap could close enough to become inconsequential.

But regardless of whether or not it ever catches up in units sold, its games are still getting better and better as time goes on, so most who get a Wii U are going to be happy with their purchase regardless of its worldwide sales.

[0P-Tigrex]

No. Not a chance. The Ps4 is pulling ahead of both Xbox One and Wii U by leaps and bounds. Xbox still needs to pass Wii U. Both Wii U and Xbox One need to outsell the Ps4 globally on a regular basis in order to compare or even compete in the race.

Doesn't matter if Xbox One or Wii U get increased sales; If the sales are still less than Ps4 global sales over time the gap will only increase. I have a feeling 2015 will be the year the Ps4 leaves both Xbox and Wii U in the dust.

[xDHAV0K24x]

The xbox 360 was a huge success with ZERO support in Japan and currently has outsold the 360's pace in the same time frame. In the end, XB1 will do mighty fine! Sorry to burst ur bubble! =)

[0P-Tigrex]

Whenever sales are brought up between the PS4 and X1 the topic is shifted to X1 is selling at a faster rate than the 360. That's not what i was talking about, or what this article is even about. Defensive much?

[ABizzel1]

@xDHAVOK24x

Actually the 360 has been outselling the XBO in the same time period for a while now. The only reason the XBO has more sales than the 360 is because it launched with 2 million sales in the first month (thanks to the foundation laid by the 360), meanwhile the 360 had to build up it's reputation off of the original Xbox which obviously wasn't a hit.

On a week to week basis the 360 has been outselling the XBO for a while now. Since March the XBO has averaged about 60k units per week, meanwhile the same time for the 360 it was averaging 100k units per week. There's a reason why MS is trying to boost XBO sales by any means possible. Not only is the PS4 beating, but the 360 and PS3 are actually beating them too, based on weekly sales, which means the console is more than likely to sale closer to 60 million, than the 80 million it's predecessor sold. That being said the 360 had no competition when it launched (just like the Wii U here).

[InTheLab]

Missing a few variables in there. Xbox is coming off an 80 million sold performance while the 360 had a third of that. Also, the x1 has had numerous price drops and bundles to help it along. Lastly, sales of the X1 have dropped off.

It's not smooth sailing like you're making it out to be.

[moparful99]

@xCHVOK24x "The xbox 360 was a huge success with ZERO support in Japan"

The 360 was a huge success compared to? The original XBOX, yes. Compared to every other console sans the Dreamcast and Gamecube, no.. The 360 has the distinct honor of being one of the worst defective consumer electronics in history. Add to that the 10 million unit lead that was squandered..

Also so the XB1 "outsold the 360's pace in the same time frame" yet the 360 ended up in third last gen and the XB1 is being utterly spanked by the PS4 this go round'. Hmm someone is wearing their rose colored glasses...

[SheriffCrazy]

You know I think Reggie's right and wrong here. I think he is wrong in comparing the current Wii Us lifetime sales with the current PS4 and XboxOnes lifetime sales. However looking at the long run I think it's a safe bet that wii U sales will stay steady through this console generation while PS4 and XboxOne sales will slow down significantly. Nintendo will release its big franchises constantly through the Wii U life cycle boosting sales periodically keeping the sales rate going while PS4 and XboxOne will continue to release the same shooters that people will buy but won't boost sales to the degree that a Mario Kart, Smash, Mario, Starfox, or Metroid ever will.

Nintendo games are System sellers. Ps4 and XboxOne games are just seller. Real Talk.

[InTheLab]

The Wii really made some of you pretty cocky. It's fun to watch but sometimes it's just better to laugh and move on.

You clearly missed E3 where both Sony and MS announced a wide variety of games as well as those shooter which make those consoles complete. The shooters are coming but that's not all. At least we can count on variety versus the same handful of titles we've been playing for 25 years.

[SheriffCrazy]

Yep. Because I noticed the difference between Super Mario Bros.(NES) is pretty much non existant to Super Mario 3D World... (Rolls Eyes)

Variety! Yep the flavor of the week shooter, racer, and.... Yeah I couldn't think of anything else.

[Dunban67]

What is your definition of constantly?

[SheriffCrazy]

Yeah. I get what you mean.

[moparful99]

@SheriffCrazy Lol Uncharted, the Last of Us, and Gran Turismo all say hi. Sony is known as anything BUT a shooter console. In fact Sony overcame Microsofts lead by distancing themselves from the dudebro shooter identity. With a huge variety of fresh IP's that run the gamut from the Last of Us to Journey, Ratchet and Clank to Little Big Planet. Nintendo on the other hand releases nothing but Mario, zelda, Donkey Kong, and Smash Bros.. They very rarely take risks and sell consoles based on gimmicks rather than compelling new content and IP's... REAL TALK.

[josephayal]

that's not gonna happen, His body was not Ready

[xDHAV0K24x]

Package in a 2DS or 3DS with the WiiU. Sales should go up quick!

[RosweeSon]

Ps4/Wii U/Xbox One....JustSaying!

[xDHAV0K24x]

XB1+WiiU = more than enough for me

[RosweeSon]

I own a ps3/4 and vita, a wii u 3ds and (no I'm not a fanboy)... Xbox 360 more than enough for me I went wii u for fun ps4 for Next gen, my wii u and xbox 360 does 1080p sure xbox one games have got a lot more going but the fact the all multiplatform games are consistently hitting 1080p on ps4 but not xbox one is piss poor I've had my xbox 360 for 6-7 years stupidly high gamerscore but unless Microsoft pull their finger out that's the end of the road for me, with them anyway, quality is elsewhere at the moment.

[Samus HD]

everybody knows that the best Next gen Combo is WiiU + ps4

[Necro_559]

Nintendo delusion at its finest. LA LA LA, i cant hear you. What do you mean outselling? LOL. Outselling what exactly?

The Wii U has been out for 18 months and has only sold 6.2 million systems.

The PS4 has been out for 7 months! and has sold 7.7 million systems!

The X1 has been out for 6 months with no Japan support, $200 more and has sold 5.5 million systems.

Lol, what do you mean outselling? The Wii U isnt out selling anything. This is delusion. Literally.

And they didnt win E3. Not at all. We seen nothing but games we already knew about. We seen games that are just reworkings of already existing characters and IP. And we seen a Zelda game? LOL. Like that is something special? There have been 16 Zelda games. Thats 1 Zelda game every other year for the last 30 years!!! And you are going to tell me you are surprised by ANOTHER ONE? LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!.

[Moonman]

All good until you mentioned Xbox One. Xbox One isn't selling good worldwide. Enjoy 3rd place bots.

Reggie mentioned that Wii U is currently in second and that is the truth with momentum at that! And 80% of the internet reported Nintendo won E3 so go do damage control but the mass public has already seen it..lol.

[Dark_king]

@Moonman how is it not selling good? Its sold less then a million less then the WiiU in 6 months that is not really bad sells numbers.It will pass the WiiU within the next 3 months.(Im giving Nin a little boost in sells post E3 if not it would be next month)

[RosweeSon]

But wii u does 1080p

[Qrphe]

One very few titles

[Baka-akaB]

some moderation is needed ...

Indeed half of the title were stuff we already expected or requested ... but you could say that with half the exclusive of SOny or MS , every E3 too .

And while a new Zelda is nothing new , it's still an impressive title by all account thus far .

They aint fixing their issues at all , like no massive , real and serious third party support since the n64 and gc , but they are addressing at least the drought of core key titles people lamented since the wii u's launch .

The WII U was the first time in a long while , if ever , they basically launched a console with no major nintendo title , wich was a big mistake

[LAWSON72]

I don't see a close three horse race. As sad as it is Wii U will never compete against either as far as sales are concerned. At this point I see Wii U getting 30M (if I was feeling optimistic 40M lol) units sold in three years, which is not horrible just nothing impressive. If Nintendo wants to be seen as the dominator of the industry they need a killer Nintendo ecosystem between handheld and console, HW at least equivalent to Xbone and a similar price point, and 3rd party games that are found on the other two. That being said I don't care if they continue to make new and different products instead because IMO the other two are similar enough and I love how Nintendo is the wild card who just does stuff they find interesting whether there is a huge market or not.

[McScroggz]

In a year and a half the Wii U has sold a little over 6 million units. Do you really think with another year and a half, or even two years, that the Wii U will sell another 24 million consoles? Not bloody likely.

Nintendo has cut down on Wii U production until they sell through the 3 or so million units they have stockpiled. Couple that with a minimal retail presence and toxic word-of-mouth and Nintendo would be overjoyed to sell 30 million Wii U's in the entire lifetime of the console.

[Dark_king]

@McScroggz I would have to agree with you I don't see the WiiU passing 30 mil lifetime sells.They don't have the same crowd to sell to that they did with the Wii.I wish it would sell more I have always loved Nin. They are great at bringing in new young gamers.Though I do see Nin releasing a new console in 3 years an I hope they go with a powerhouse this time.

[Butters360]

Reggie has always been nothing but a bloody idiot in my eyes. Such a horrible joke of a President. The Wii U finally has a good stream of quality first party titles but that won't be enough to boost your sales.

The thing with that always pisses me off with Nintendo is that they half ass every console. I just want a powerful Nintendo console that's actually WITH THE TIME and go from there. Just my opinion.

[ChickeyCantor]

The "half assed" didn't start until Wii.

How new are you to Nintendo?

". Such a horrible joke of a President. "

You really think he has a say in anything? lol
All decisions come from Japan, end of.

[iceman600]

lol if this doesn't prove xbox sucks i dont know what will.

[SpiralTear]

So we'll have three consoles in the race, and lots of choice and competition from all three of them in terms of exclusives and distinct experiences? I'm perfectly okay with that. Variety is the spice of life.

[bahabeast]

nintendo consoles are jokes. they make games soo cartoonish and never nothing serious, only game i can ever play on nintendo console and have fun is smash brothers and maybe mario kart. zelda people mite hype it but its still cartoon and the characters still dnt speak. JOKE!!!!!

[Illusive_Man]

You sound really fucking arrogant. I love the games on Xbox One and a few on PS4 but Nintendo is honestly selling for the next generation of gamers. Yeah, can you believe that? There is an entire generation of little kids that are not yet old enough to blow up aliens and machine gun Nazis, watch digital strippers, simulate sexual acts, and so on and so forth. So let Nintendo do their thing. Everyone isn't a bitter 40 + year old gamer. JOKE!!!! You are it!

[bahabeast]

Im not saying they should totally go the mature route im just saying build it powerfull enough that you can have a mix of ages wanting it.

[aaronjohnson05]

Mario kart 8 is the reason that he said that but how do yall think the wii was at success it was because of great games and unique experience same for the wii u. The gamepad wasn't utilize enough to get people to jump on board. They depending on 3rd parties to highly and that hurted them badly and that caused the long drought of games. That's why nintendo came back with a great e3. 2015 will be a 3 horse race I'm not saying that as a fanboy I'm saying that as a person that analyzed everything that the big 3 does. Nintendo has the most exclusives games that is coming and they all utilize the gamepad. Now consumers can be happy with a console once again that shows the uniqueness the system that is only on an nintendo . I'm not saying it's going to win the console wars but I'm saying it's making a nice comeback similar to what ps3 when started the generation and it sucked badly. They are headed on the right direction and I do believe they will get things turned around.that's just my opinion if you got a problem than you can go to hell.

[aaronjohnson05]

Remember the console with the most powerful don't always win, it's who has the best games and who market the games better. Wii and the ps2 is a great example. The had the least power but had the most games that appeal to most gamers. It's still to early with doom articles about nintendo. I still have faith in them and mario kart 8, bayonetta 1 and 2, smash bros and hyrule warriors should keep me busy the rest of the year and like I said earlier 2015 will be a great year for nintendo.

[nesiguess]

I would love to see any of you answer any question the media asked you if you were involved with a billion dollar company..whats he supposed to say? We suck, I suck, the wii u sucks, Nintendo sucks....once you listen to the media..you have already lost..

[Spotie]

....that's stupid.

You say, "We're not where we want to be, but we're not complacently sitting around. We do have plans to turn things around, and -insert games here- and policies are a part of it."

There's no reason to give an unreasonable, BS PR answer, when you could say the same thing with more honesty.

[randomass171]

I don't see why people are freaking out and calling him stupid or delusional. This is actually very typical PR. Any other CEO from any other company would have said pretty much something similar. You have to say you have a positive outlook, even if it's backed by crap logic, otherwise people will think you have no faith in the product. People are getting up in arms over nothing. This is PR damage control and nothing more.

[moparful99]

I'm sorry but the average age of the modern gamer is late 20's early 30's. We're smart enough to see right through his PR babble. We appreciate an honest and candid response to their woes. I grew up with Nintendo as did a lot of other gamers that now reside on Sony and Microsoft consoles. Nintendo is too complacent and stuck in their midset that helped them dominate in the 80's and 90's... Those kids that ate up anything Nintendo are all adults now and crave a healthy does of mature content to go along with those nostalgic joy rides we get from Mario and Zelda.. When will people like you wake up and start demanding better from Nintendo? I already have and I haven't purchased Nintendo console since the 64..

[randomass171]

Oh please, would you get off your high horse? I don't care about Reggie's PR babble because that's all it is and as far as I care, I think it's irrelevant to the games he is trying to sell. Games are what motivate my interest, not people. If you're going to criticize Nintendo, do it accurately. If they are so stuck in the 80's-90's mindset, why are they publishing Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third? Why is Team Ninja's influence in Hyrule Warriors?

Whatever. I don't care what you or Reggie say. He's a character meant to sell games, almost no different than Kevin Butler was for Sony for a time. I demand better games from Nintendo because I don't let PR get in the way of my enjoyment. So don't have a go me just because I don't look at this the same controversial way most of the other commenters are. Nintendo's games are just fine regardless of whatever dumb things Reggie might say.

[Xenomorph]

Clickbait title much?

[randomass171]

No kidding. This interview concerned a lot more than this topic. And for whatever reason in spite of all the other more important topics that came out this week, somehow this is in N4G's top news. Ridiculous.

[LOL_WUT]

Then you're contributing to your own problem by commenting on this article and thus giving it more heat. As to this topic don't know why it would upset you unless you are a fanboy... ;)

[LightDiego]

Great exclusive games are coming for Wii U, i will not be surprised if outsell Xbox One at this moment. Even if it does not happen, Wii U is a great choice to have with another platform.

[Demoa]

Ps4 already outsell wii U and xbox is not that far behind. At
soon wii U will be in third place

[mochachino]

Wow, the man is a genius at answering questions. I'm amazed he could come up with so much spin at the spur of the moment. He'd be a great politician. In fact, they should learn from him.

[Picnic]

The WiiU is actually Nintendo's best opportunity to innovate.
It's their Dreamcast- with the exception that even if it doesn't sell massively it's not going to force them to become fully third party unless they really want to because their handhelds keep them afloat.

Now a sobering thought - if the WiiU is their Dreamcast then the original Wii might have been their Saturn (which sold more or less exactly the same as the Dreamcast). In terms of long term Nintendo buyers that is (as opposed to casuals who abandoned them within a generation).
For not every Gamecube owner will have upgraded to a Wii. It's just not statistically likely. And the popularity of the Xbox360 suggests that some former Gamecube owners might have gone there.

The WiiU with its controller with a screen was once a little bit of a decadent luxury for die-hards. Third party
games were never going to make hardly any difference when Sony and Microsoft have at least slightly better versions anyway.

But E3 2014 changed that. Nintendo showed their sense of humour. Not just a 'Nintendo' type of humour. A universal sense of humour. And they showed a very decent line up of games.

The WiiU is certain to sell less than the XboxOne and PS4 by some considerable margin.
It really does operate in its own space. Nintendo's major console sales are always susceptible to fluctuations. Like whether people decide to buy 1 console in a particular generation - in which case are they really going to want to do without playing something like Bioshock Infinite last gen? Or are they under a certain age or are they a fairly non-gaming parent only wanting a 'family friendly' system in their house? These people don't necessarily have much say at all as to whether they get a console. They're bound by the wishes of their parents or partner.

You can get away with being uncool in the short term but
you have to have a cool system- a cool company - in the long run once the casuals have abandoned you. The hardcore - so hardcore they dress as Link- don't actually matter so much to sales. They'd buy a shit shovelled sandwich from Nintendo- they're a constant.

So I'd like to say- that new Zelda trailer was cool.
Stuff like this from Nintendo in cumulation might make the difference between a console selling 10 million or selling 20 million. But because of the slow start and what it still seen as a high price for the WiiU compared to what features the competition have - they'd be lucky to get above that.
They sell Gamecube level numbers of consoles to those who adore their games. Anything above that is casual numbers.

[evilhasitsway]

funny thing is its Nintendo's fault that the ps1 and up are all there own fault. Nintendo had sony build them a new game system back in the day and then Nintendo decided that they didn't want it and so forth the playstation was born.

[mochachino]

Nintendo lost dominance because they didn't cater to 3rd parties and chose the cartridge over the CD, which made every game investment a huge risk. Even worse, discounting a cartridge to bargain bin prices resulted in a manufacturing loss, and unsold cartridges sitting on shelves is vastly more expensive than unsold CDs.

[moparful99]

@evilhasitsway and mochachino You're half right. Nintendo actually owned the cartridge business and would license carts to companies to use to make games.

They monopolized the idustry so when Sony came to Nintendo with the CD format Nintendo saw a technology that could usurp the Cartridge.

So a collaboration was born to create a CD based console. But Nintendo wanted it on their terms and knowing Sony owned the technology for CD's they backed out in the 11th hour and left Sony holding the bag thinking they would fold.

This decision backfired and Sony would soon dethrone Nintendo.

Today Sony is known for their game consoles and their format medias like cd, dvd, and blu ray...

[LostFlock]

Well then they better start cranking a bunch of 1st party stuff since third party support is basically dead.

[extermin8or]

I'm glad wii u flopped for one reason and one reason only. Imagine if 3rd party devs were bothering to keep games able to run on it's hardware which is power outpu wise comparable to a ps3... It'd have been like getting cross generation games all this generation... AC:Unity and Batman likely couldn't run on the console even if the devs wanted it to....

[Lrateke]

Does it matter for us? We play games or number of consoles sold?

[ThaBlackBaron]

LOL ok I don't see what's so bad about what he said?

What he said was reasonable and accurate.

Yall Sony Ponies are delusional LOL

[XenoUltra]

Lol this comment section.

[just-joe]

I know right, Heaven forbid you suggest that the PS4 could lose it's #1 spot.

[KakashiHotake]

You would get 8 million disagrees. lol

[BattleN]

PS4 99,166 76,845 6,589 201,630
WiiU 86,003 65,991 19,098 187,02
........ Usa, Europe, Japan, Total

[SynestheticRoar]

Reggie lies like a hooker doing her taxes.

[KakashiHotake]

Well in Reggie's defense that's really all he could say unless he's willing to admit defeat. He can't say anything bold cause it will only add fuel to the fire. All he could say is that their still relevant in the race.

[Kran]

Wii U has been out longer.

PS4 and Xbox One both generated a lot of sales in half the time its taken Nintendo.

/justsayin

[AJBACK2FRAG]

Uh, Hate to say I told you so but... I told you so.

[jcnba28]

Funny how it's mostly sony fanboys commenting on this article. It's as if they're scared or something ;)

[AJBACK2FRAG]

They're not scared. They're bitter because Sony released a technical marvel called the PS3 and two game cubes duct taped together KICKED THEIR FUCKING ASS!!!!!

[Flames76]

Haha reggie gets dumber every year.PS4 has already outsold the Wii U and the Xbox One has already outsold the Wii U in america.Will outsell it worldwide by september this year.Reggie you are good for a laugh but to be honest nintendo is done in the gaming market

[assdan]

A single game never permanently raises the baseline. I'm expecting higher sales for about a month. Then it will slowly drop down back to where it was. Maybe a slightly higher baseline.
But Reggie's comment was one of the worst he could have made. It makes him seem completely ignorant on his competition. It makes it sound like he doesn't know the the ps4 has sold 30% more units in 1/3 the time. Oh yeah, and 30% isn't a small different by the way.

[Kos-Mos]

But what company makes the most profit kids? Do you know what business is about?

Nintendo is making the most profit AND have pride in their work.

Go play cod till you drop.

[CorruptBoyd]

To compete with Sony and Microsft, Nintendo needs a new system with similar hardware to its rivals, multiplats would all make it to the system. Backeards compatibility for wii U also.