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Xbox One Architecture Finally Explained – Runs OS ‘Virtually Indistinguishable’ from Windows 8

WCCF: The slides from Frank Savage's presentation reveal that the Xbox One Games and Apps both run on Windows 8. In the case of apps, its a full fledged Windows 8. In the case of Games its a 'lean and mean' Windows 8.

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codelyoko3652d ago

Heres to hoping some genius hacks the os and makes porting of Forza 5 and Halo possible.

alexkoepp3652d ago (Edited 3652d ago )

Windows 8 is great, cant wait for the x1 to get app support, just a faster windows 7. should help game development for shared pc/x1 titles. i hardly would call this "x1 architecture explained" though...

dantesparda3652d ago

I wish Sony would reveal the full architecture of the PS4 already.

tokugawa3652d ago

hmmm didn't corrine yu tweet "yay no more windows 8" when she quit 343 for naughty dog??

i wondered at the time what she ment. i suppose this is the confirmation then

Geoff9003652d ago

I think having Windows 8, on Xbox 1 will mean cross platform games, MS is already giving hints at that.

I would love it if you could buy X1 games, and play them on PC* and vice versa THAT would be a game changer.

*PC version running at max settings.

dantesparda3652d ago

Why am i getting all the disagrees? I'd really like to know. WTF! It offends people that i'd like to know?

HugoDrax3652d ago

@Geoff900

"I would love it if you could buy X1 games, and play them on PC* and vice versa THAT would be a game changer."

That would be amazing! It's basically having your XB1 on the go. I guess that would be similar to PS4 having remote play? Well only time will tell, I say end the fanboy wars and buy all 3 consoles if you're a gamer.

Good times ahead everyone.

avengers19783652d ago

@dantesparda you should never ever worry about the disagrees. Differing opinions are what make Internet forums interesting.

ProjectVulcan3651d ago

Everyone loves Windows 8. Right? Right?

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kneon3652d ago

With both the XB1 and PS4 being so close to PC architecture I'm sure eventually both will end up with emulators for PC. I expect we'll get the XB1 emulator and then a year or two later the PS4 emulator.

TheRedButterfly3652d ago

Here's a noble idea! Buy the console that the games are on.

Gamer19823651d ago

The downfall to this is that means the OS is very resource heavy at least right now.. It could be why games are struggling in resolutions compared to PS4 as that OS was never designed for consoles.

Blaze9293651d ago (Edited 3651d ago )

Don't be silly.

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MCTJim3652d ago

Well, they hinted that it did indeed run the actual windows 8 OS, but never really explained it in detail. Now here is the proof that it indeed does. Lets see how this pans out with DX12 and hardware tiled resources. E3 should bring new light to this with the games that utilize it.

codelyoko3652d ago

For secret sauce, ESRAM is the horse to bet on. DX12 is a low level api, since the Host OS is an RTOS it already has to the metal access to hardware so theoretically a low level api is redundant. ESRAM on the other hand is a completely wild card and may as well be a game changer.

Walker3652d ago

ESRam is just like EDRam .

codelyoko3652d ago

Aww comeon , whats with the disagrees ppl :/ i am not even a console player. PC Master Race and all....

MCTJim3652d ago (Edited 3652d ago )

I'm not into the whole secret sauce. but rather, I have always felt they rushed this console to market to compete with Sony. Now come E3, I think they will have a completed OS and will finally be showcasing what the machine can do.

If Phil was in charge like he is now, I have a feeling this E3 would be the reveal of the system.

cfc783652d ago

A big rule of N4G never ask about the disagree's it only seem's to bring more.

2cents3652d ago

@mctJim

That's how I've felt too.

probably why the actual worldwide launch of the xbox one is in sept. USA and a few choice countries got the xbox with the ps4 launch because they couldn't afford to loose such a large market share.

I am looking forward to seeing how the console will perform with its full toolset enabled.

ALLWRONG3652d ago

You god disagrees because you mentioned DX12, and DX12 scares PS people.

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xxLuckyStrike3652d ago

Windows 8 you say???!! On X1?? and yet my Windows 8 phone can't do shit with it unless, it's thru The Xbox one Smartglass/companion which is useless. Can't watch my Xbox movies MP3's NOTHING

Cherchez La Ghost3652d ago

??????!!!! Smartglass on my Galaxy S3 for Dead Rising works just fine.

BallsEye3651d ago (Edited 3651d ago )

BS
Using Nokia Lumia 1520 with windows 8.1 for devs and it works perfectly fine. Worked same on win 8 version. NPC's call my phone in DR3, send me messages, I can use all the adds and so on. Integration of win phone and XO is really amazing. I smell an undercover fanboy troll.

InTheZoneAC3652d ago

lol at anything a part of windows 8

LAWSON723652d ago

Windows 8 especially after the recent 8.1 update 1, has been pretty good. It was originally a little better but now it is much better than Windows 7. I will never understand the hate for W8.

neoandrew3651d ago

Actually it has nothing that is better and relevant to anyone than windows 7.

Gamer6663651d ago

@neoandrew

That is a fact less comment. First Win8 is full backwards compatible to Win7 when you are using a x86 based processor. It is only the UI that really changed.

Second, there have been several iterations of Win8 to improve it. It was touch friendly but not desktop friendly in the first iteration. 8.1 made it desktop friendlier. And the new Update to 8.1 takes it another step towards being a solid interface for both touch and desktop users.

LAWSON723651d ago (Edited 3651d ago )

Yes it does here is what is better.

File manager
Task manager
Direct X11.2 and 12
Built in mounting feature
Boot time
uses less resources so faster and more efficient
Improved multi display settings
Reset and refresh

This is idea that it offers nothing new and convient is just wrong. It started out rough but as of now it is much better than Windows 7

Dark_Vendetta3651d ago

The only thing I hate is the design. But you have to love UEFI support, it's just so fast :)

stiggs3651d ago (Edited 3651d ago )

@ InTheZoneAC

"lol at anything a part of windows 8"

Do you care to elaborate from a technical, aesthetic, or implementation standpoint?

This ought to be good...

InTheZoneAC3651d ago (Edited 3651d ago )

only on the internet would I fine anyone ever defending windows 8...wow

the UI is horrible. I don't care what it has to offer when you have to deal with the bs in your face.

And if I was really worried just about "speed and functionality" then mac would be my choice....

windows 8 are like all the ugly new cars with all the computer assists that may make it better than a regular car, but there's just too much ugly and bs to get by first to appreciate it.

I'll stick with my windows 7. Simple=better, but whoever gave windows 8 a face doesn't know anything about simpler being better.

stiggs3651d ago (Edited 3651d ago )

@ InTheZoneAc

Thanks for the reply. I don't think that repeating the adage of "Windows 8 is ugly" is an elaboration of your original comment...but whatever, man.

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ninjahunter3652d ago

Now theres your problem right there. Should have designed it after windows 7.

All jokes aside, despite windows 8's user interface... struggles, Its a very dynamic and streamlined OS.

amazinglover3652d ago

Just have your computer boot to the desktop instead and it's a great OS having it boot to the charm menu was stupid and useless if you didn't have a touch screen to interact with.

Gamer19823651d ago

Should have made a better OS all around that was specifically for the hardware. Would have been lighter and better for the console. But the Xbox One as we all know was rushed thanks to Sony so they probably had no choice. Maybe we will see a new OS in the future like we did with 360 that will seriously help the Xbox One.

bornsinner3652d ago (Edited 3652d ago )

i think they really thought about the specs and hardware choices with the console, balance was the key, though the devs are not utilizing it properly doesn't mean it's a bad design. just lazy devs i say, hitting 1080p has always been the issue, it's turning into the whole ps3 issue, with dx12 porting with optimizations will be easier for the lazy devs.

Geoff9003652d ago

Wouldn't say developers are lazy, however they are on very tight deadlines to meet the demands on their publisher/developer.

All the launch games, even the games coming this year are games which have been pushed by publishers to get them out the door by a certain time frame, games like The Witcher 3, Destiny and several X1/PS4 exclusives will show what these machines can actually do.

iagainsti1203652d ago

Actually I believe the the real reason the Xbox One is struggling with 1080p is with the number of ROP's and TMU's. AMD have said on record the the sweet spot for 1080p is 32 ROP's and 80 TMU's. Xbox one is not even close. Xbox One has 16 ROP's and 48 TMU's. http://www.redgamingtech.co...
Unfortunately Xbox One only has about half of What AMD recommends for 1080p gaming. On the flip side PS4 has almost the recommended amount at 32 ROP's and 72 TMU's. Because of this 1080p Games will be few on Xbox One you will see more games with odd resolutions between 720p and 1080p.

Prime1573652d ago

Careful, many people don't get the difference between what the cpu and the gpu do in computers...

Le sigh.

iagainsti1203652d ago

Oh I know, I have been on this site since 2009 I have stopped commenting for a long time. The hardware nerd in me had to reply to correct this misinformation from both sides.

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Rolling the Dice: Do Modern RPGs Miss the Point of Team-Based Play?

It seems it was long time ago. A bunch of friends spending hours on end playing RPG games, sitting around the table with the box of cold pizza. Excited about the story, listening to the Game Master, they were completely engaged in the worlds only visible to them and their imaginations.

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Takwin2619d ago

The GM is the programmer, and in MMOs and co-ops, you can play with others. If you want to ONLY use your imagination for the visuals, read a book.

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Record of Agarest War 2 announced for PS3

Scrawl: "Looks like we know how that new Compile Heart countdown is going to end. The latest issue of Famitsu has confirmed that Agarest Senki 2, known as Record of Agarest War 2 in the US, is Compile Heart’s newest title."

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Godmars2905064d ago

1) Hope they put it on disc this time.
2) Hope this is a positive for Neptune coming over as well.

Demons Souls5064d ago

If so, that's being developed & published by Idea Factory. Compile Heart has nothing to do with it (Thank God for that).

Godmars2905064d ago (Edited 5064d ago )

Thought Compile Heart was one of the companies lending characters.

Was also speaking in general as in regards to a US of Neptune. If these guys are offing a second game, NIS or Atlus, both of whom offer quirkier titles, will put that one out.

@kagon01:
My issue isn't - wholly - with the DL-only option, but the price. The first game should be $30. Maybe $40, and by that I mean $39.99. The only reason its $45 is the 360 disc version which has extras. Nevermind that by all rights its a PS2 game. Something that proabbly could have been done if the devs had the GOW2 engine or tools.

ClownBelt5064d ago

I approve of this god damn message.

Could have gotten my 60 bucks if they just put it on a disc.

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Tripl3seis5064d ago

Another exclusive damnn the ps3 keeps on rollin wit games awesome ;)

Jack-Pyro5064d ago

Is this a half decent SRPG, porn aside, cause if it is, i might just decide to go and buy it for the 360.

Anon73495064d ago

There's no porn just some sexual innuendos but that's it.

Also it is a great game by itself, maybe not graphically but everything else is top tier.

RedDevils5063d ago

so it had some kind of "top tier" porn story jk

ThanatosDMC5064d ago

Yup, it's a decent game. I just hate that a move has to go first before any attack options.

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Bless Online Korean MMORPG Gets Server Merge

This is not the first time that Bless Online receives a server merge in Korea. An announcement was made on the official Korean site.

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Bismarn2654d ago

Bless must be an amazing game to be on all these platforms (according to the tags): iPad iPhone Nintendo DS PC PS Vita PS2 PS3 PS4 PSP Wii Wii U Xbox Xbox 360 Xbox One